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Xanthippe
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on: October 13, 2008, 09:12:55 AM

Inscription profession, barbershops, achievements, pets/mounts tab, and new class talents!



Patch notes from PTR in entirety:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html

General

    * All players will have their talent points reimbursed and will have access to new talents throughout their trees; this includes the 51-point talents. Several new spells and abilities have been added for all classes. Players will need to visit their class trainer to learn new spells.
    * The Kirin Tor have made their move and so has Dalaran. Please watch your step around the crater that has been left behind!
    * The Barber Shop has been implemented and you can now visit one of the Barber Shops in the major cities to change your appearance. Be sure to get your Shave and a Haircut!
    * The all new Achievement System has been implemented and the Achievement panel can be accessed via the interface. While many achievements are not retroactive, we have done our best to credit as many as possible. Gamemasters will not be able to grant achievements for past accomplishements.
    * Stormwind Harbor is now open for business.
    * New towers have been added outside Of Orgrimmar and in Tirisfal Glades. Crews are currently at work to establish a new Zeppelin route to Northrend for your travel pleasure. Please no /spit off of the towers.
    * A new entrance is now viewable in the Caverns of Time.
    * Hit Rating, Critical Strike Rating, and Haste Rating now modify both melee attacks and spells.
    * Spell casting and spell channeling pushback has been changed to the following:
          o When casting a spell:
                + The first and second hit will add .5 secs each to the cast time.
                + All hits after the second will have no effect.
          o When channeling a spell:
                + The first and second hit reduces current duration by 25% of total duration each.
                + All hits after the second will have no effect.
          o Spellpower:
                + All items and effects which grant bonuses to spell damage and spell healing are being consolidated into a single stat, Spellpower. This stat will appear with the same values found on items which grant “increased spell damage and healing” such as on typical Mage and Warlock itemization.
                      # For classes which do not heal, they should see no change in the character sheet other than new tooltip wording.
                + Healing characters will see their bonus healing numbers on the character sheet decrease, however, all healing spells have been modified to receive more benefit from spellpower than they received from bonus healing, with a net effect of no change to the amount healed by their spells. Some talents have had to be rebalanced to accommodate this change, but the amount healed will remain roughly the same. In addition, some talents will provide only healing spell power.

Known Issues

    * The current patch notes are incomplete, but will be progressively more comprehensive in each patch.
    * All classes are currently undergoing a balancing pass of all talent trees.
    * Inscription is not fully implemented and still has non-functioning glyphs.

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http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html

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PvP

    * Arenas
          o Buffs that have 30 seconds or less remaining will be removed once the game starts. However, the mage spell “Invisibility” is not affected by this change.

Professions

    * New Profession: Inscription is available to train up to 375.

User Interface

    * New Calendar feature: Players will be able to access the new Calendar feature by clicking on the new icon located in the top right corner of their mini map. The calendar will track in game events, allow raid scheduling, and more.
    * New Vanity Pet and Mount changes: Players will now be able to access their non-combat pets and mounts by clicking on the pets tab in the Character Info panel. These pets and mounts will be now learnable much like spells or abilities. Once a vanity pet or mount is learned, the icon will disappear from within a player’s inventory andreappear in the appropriate tab under the pet tab under Character Info. Say goodbye to your vanity pets and mounts taking up bag and bank slots!
          o Lost pets and mounts (one time quest rewards) can be recovered by visiting a stablemaster.
    * A new Agro Warning is now available and currently functioning in dungeons.
    * Focus Frame is now available. Players will be able to right click on any unit frame and select “Set Focus”. The focus frame will only display when the focus is set. Players may also set a “Focus Cast Key” in the options/combat panel that can be bound to shift, alt, or ctrl. When holding the focus cast key and triggering an action, the action will be performed on your focus and not on your target.
    * Lost tabards (one time quest rewards) may now be restored by visiting a tabard vendor.
    * Lost keys (one time quest rewards) may now be restored by visiting a blacksmith.
    * Error messages should play less frequently.
    * Tradeskills can now be linked by shift-clicking the tradeskill icon.
    * Quests can be shared with party members at any distance.
    * Quests can be shared with party members by linking the quest into party chat.
    * Quests can be shared in raids but not battlegrounds.
    * Randomized Daily quests may now be shared, but only on the same day as the quest is given.
    * A 5 minute timer will appear over the player’s unit frame showing the countdown until your PvP flag is cleared.
    * The /cower emote now has an animation.
    * Macros and key bindings are now saved server-side so there is no longer a need to reconfigure them when logging in using another computer.
    * Shift-clicking to loot mail: You can now hold Shift and click on mail in your inbox to automatically loot any items and gold without opening the mail. This default behavior can be changed via Auto Loot Mail in the Interface Options (Controls).
    * Combat Log Changes:
          o The combat log now differentiates between a spell failure due to resistance and spell failure due to missing the target. Where once both events reported as a resist; a spell missing the target is now reported as a miss.
          o Overhealing is now reported in the combat log.
          o When a source of damage is entirely prevented (by a shield block, a full resist, or a damage shield like Power Word:Shield, the prevented amount will now be displayed.

Items

    * Druids and Shaman can now use items while shapeshifted.
    * The Abyss Shard has been changed to grant a passive 15 stamina bonus, but no longer removes the soul shard requirement from casting a voidwalker.
    * Devilsaur Eye now increases your pet’s attack power for a short duration instead of increasing its critical strike chance. It also provides a small amount of passive Agility.
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Reply #1 on: October 13, 2008, 09:50:51 AM

Glad I stockpiled all that Peacebloom and Ragveil.  To the Auctionhouse, Batman!

In other news, avoid all BGs until people figure out how to kill Ret Pallies.  (they will, in time) because the whining will be unbearable on both sides.   Although, there IS something wrong about a class that can solo (at least) past the first boss of Underbog in Heroic purples. (My friend did this.)

Also; prot pallies are equally broken, but keeping their mouths shut about it.  I went in and was able to solo Sethekk Halls in Kara-level protadin gear on the PTR over the weekend.   I didn't give any heroics a try becuase I got bored and figured why waste the time when it "doesn't count" on a PTR.   I figure my ret buddy and I can go start cranking out achievement bosses we'd been skipping Wednesday night.   DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS

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Reply #2 on: October 13, 2008, 10:26:57 AM

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* Macros and key bindings are now saved server-side so there is no longer a need to reconfigure them when logging in using another computer.

Yay!  This was such a pain.
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Reply #3 on: October 13, 2008, 11:54:06 AM

Who's got Mage specs in mind for tomorrow?
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Reply #4 on: October 13, 2008, 12:19:41 PM

me but I'll stick just with fire for PvE to finish my last 2 levels to 70.  So generic fiero.
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Reply #5 on: October 13, 2008, 01:07:02 PM

Glad I stockpiled all that Peacebloom and Ragveil.  To the Auctionhouse, Batman!

Yah. Except that tonight's play plan has just changed to copious amounts of farming of sungrass in feralas. And hunting for last minute bargains on the AH from people who don't know better.

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Reply #6 on: October 13, 2008, 03:41:02 PM

    * Shift-clicking to loot mail: You can now hold Shift and click on mail in your inbox to automatically loot any items and gold without opening the mail. This default behavior can be changed via Auto Loot Mail in the Interface Options (Controls).


Thank god.



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Reply #7 on: October 13, 2008, 04:50:15 PM

Glad I stockpiled all that Peacebloom and Ragveil.  To the Auctionhouse, Batman!

In other news, avoid all BGs until people figure out how to kill Ret Pallies.  (they will, in time) because the whining will be unbearable on both sides.   Although, there IS something wrong about a class that can solo (at least) past the first boss of Underbog in Heroic purples. (My friend did this.)

Also; prot pallies are equally broken, but keeping their mouths shut about it.  I went in and was able to solo Sethekk Halls in Kara-level protadin gear on the PTR over the weekend.   I didn't give any heroics a try becuase I got bored and figured why waste the time when it "doesn't count" on a PTR.   I figure my ret buddy and I can go start cranking out achievement bosses we'd been skipping Wednesday night.   DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS


You could solo Non-Heroic Sethekk now, it would just take 5 times as long.

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #8 on: October 13, 2008, 06:25:23 PM

Glad I stockpiled all that Peacebloom and Ragveil.  To the Auctionhouse, Batman!

Yah. Except that tonight's play plan has just changed to copious amounts of farming of sungrass in feralas. And hunting for last minute bargains on the AH from people who don't know better.


Im missing something - or its in the full notes I cant read coz I'm at work.  Why the farming of mid-50s herbs all of a sudden?
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Reply #9 on: October 13, 2008, 06:26:22 PM

The primary ingredient for inscription is herbs.

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Reply #10 on: October 13, 2008, 08:48:11 PM


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* Macros and key bindings are now saved server-side so there is no longer a need to reconfigure them when logging in using another computer.


It occurs to me - is this an anti-bot measure?
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Reply #11 on: October 13, 2008, 09:07:38 PM

No.  And for people who don't want that, (like me) there is a way to disable it.
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Reply #12 on: October 13, 2008, 09:19:04 PM

Dual-speccing not implemented yet? Interesting...


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Reply #13 on: October 13, 2008, 10:47:18 PM

Pretty sure it's slated for post-WotLK, but I base this on magical happy dust.

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Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 01:12:50 AM

I remain unconvinced they'll ever get dual speccing working.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #15 on: October 14, 2008, 02:39:44 AM

Im missing something - or its in the full notes I cant read coz I'm at work.  Why the farming of mid-50s herbs all of a sudden?

It's any herbs - my herbalist is only 49 and currently in Feralas. I might risk some runs around Ungoro & Felwood etc later though - before everyone else gets there.

Inscription relies on herbs in the same way that Jewelcrafting relies on ore. Get 5 herbs, "mill" them, get pigment, inscribe.  Any herbs will do - even bloodthistle from Eversong Woods from what I've read. There are 8 pigments (7 in patch I guess as 8th will be from Northrend herbs) and they're grouped so milling either sungrass or firebloom will give you the same pigment.  (Spoiler filled guide here)

So - current business plan:

1. Collect herbs
2. ?
3. PROFIT!

This will only fail if everyone on the server has already stocked up or no-one wants to power-level Inscription.  Judging by the fact that post-release TBC ore was being sold to Jewelcrafters for 4/5g a stack of copper, I'm hedging my bets that I should be able to make a tidy sum on the 100+ stacks of herbs I've currently got stored.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
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Reply #16 on: October 14, 2008, 02:42:30 AM

The Notes on the actual Blizz Website aren't up to date it seems.

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Reply #17 on: October 14, 2008, 03:17:58 AM

Yeah, the PTR server notes haven't been updated in an age.

Dual-spec feature will come in the first post LK content patch, according to info from Blizzcon.  It will also swap your action bars automatically, so you don't have to redo all your hotkeys every time you swap specs, and they say it is likely they'll have it swap glyphs as well, so you can have one set of glyphs for one spec, and another set for another.  In addition they are considering adding an ItemRack like function into the base UI to make equipment-swapping easier.

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Reply #18 on: October 14, 2008, 03:33:32 AM

What Koya said, but add-in lots of bitching from "pure" classes so say that the combination of Hybrids able to heal, tank and dps along with the glyph swapping and built-in item rack means that they're 'useless' and 'nobody' will take them on raids and it's now "World of Hybrids!"

See, Blizz plans on making you able to swap specs anywhere, any time so long as you're not in the middle of combat or an arena.  The logic being, "Well you can already hearth, respec, warlock summon so any sort of cool down makes it less convenient than that and would be pointless."

Then add more bitching from future inscribers who say that auto-swapping glyps when you respec means that the profession is "useless" because you can't keep selling the same spells like enchanters and jewelcrafters do.  They must not know about Smithing, Leatherworking and Engineering.  You know, those other professions that are worthless as money makers after the first 5 months of level-cap raiding.


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Reply #19 on: October 14, 2008, 04:06:22 AM

Im missing something - or its in the full notes I cant read coz I'm at work.  Why the farming of mid-50s herbs all of a sudden?

It's any herbs - my herbalist is only 49 and currently in Feralas. I might risk some runs around Ungoro & Felwood etc later though - before everyone else gets there.

Inscription relies on herbs in the same way that Jewelcrafting relies on ore.

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Reply #20 on: October 14, 2008, 07:58:48 AM

I've read that prot warriors are awesome-on-a-stick in 3.0. I'll have to check and murderize a few squishies prot-style in a battleground. Maybe I can even hit a ret pally twice before I get roflstomped by 15k crits, or something. DRILLING AND MANLINESS

And yeah, I find complaining about the dual specs silly too. What is a "pure" class? Even pure DPS'rs like mages, hunters, locks, rogues have pve and pvp specs they switch between... and as someone who plays a "tank class" and a "healer class" most of the time, dual specs are pretty huge.

That is, after dual specs actually get implemented (2009?) and the various spec-related horrendous bugs / exploits fixed (mid-2011). I mean, this IS blizz we're talking about here, right?  awesome, for real


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Reply #21 on: October 14, 2008, 08:31:00 AM

Dual specs are pure win. Designers made instances that required totally different raid setups, and you either had to zone out and respec, or just deal with a sub-par group composition. This move lets you take whoever you want into runs, which is the whole point of playing together with your friends. You don't have to worry about much about raid setup, and you can start to worry about people actually being fun.

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Reply #22 on: October 14, 2008, 08:37:44 AM

These talent changes are a pain in the fucking arse.  Also, Blizzard appears to have forgotten that level 11 chars don't have seed of corruption.


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Reply #23 on: October 14, 2008, 08:42:08 AM

These talent changes are a pain in the fucking arse.  Also, Blizzard appears to have forgotten that level 11 chars don't have seed of corruption.

Maybe you will when you log in. There was at least one anomaly in the shaman tree with water shield, but the latest patchnotes say we now get it at 20.

I would be cautious in interpreting Blizzards dual spec thing. They said it would be soon. When paid character transfers were going to be soon it was something like 16 months. There's time and then there's Blizzard time.

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Reply #24 on: October 14, 2008, 08:42:21 AM

I for one welcome our new Ret Overlords.

Managed to get the reccomended amount of herbs to get me to about 310 tomorrow in inscription; the new talent changes are going to be a pain to figure out though. The biggest immediate news is the raid instance nerfs though.

These talent changes are a pain in the fucking arse.  Also, Blizzard appears to have forgotten that level 11 chars don't have seed of corruption.

There's a bunch of low-tier talents that affect high-level spells *shrug* it's not like they don't also offer benefits to characters at the level to get them.
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Reply #25 on: October 14, 2008, 08:47:05 AM

I know.  It actually pisses me off.

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Reply #26 on: October 14, 2008, 09:21:23 AM

Who's got Mage specs in mind for tomorrow?

This is what one guy in my guild posted in our forums. No clue how good they are. My highest mage is 35.

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Fire - 10/51/0 - all the x/50/x variants are about the same dps. This favors efficiency over +hit. Rotation is pretty much the same as normal but two crits in a row mean an instant pyro, so you get to watch for that. You can take your time on the pyro, a 3rd crit in a row counts towards the next pyro crit. If you have excess mana, Living Bomb is ~10% dps gain.
Arcane - 53/0/8 The other option is a 53/3/0+5 build. The rotation is Aracane Barrage->Frostbolt/Arcane Blast. When missile barrage procs, cast AM instead of the filler.
Frost - 0/0/55+6 - Frost is self-sufficient. Frostbolt until you get a brain freeze proc and then Fireball. The FoF proc is best spent on Frostbolts.
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Reply #27 on: October 14, 2008, 09:25:11 AM

It's fucking wrong to be clockwatching for a goddamned computer game patch, but I find myself doing it.

I really shouldn't, any way, because we all know that 2pm PST time is going to stretch out until 5pm or later.  Then there's the rollbacks and emergency restarts.  Goddamnit I want to play my new wtfpwnage class.

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Reply #28 on: October 14, 2008, 12:04:45 PM

Excuse me while I whine...

The patch is about 1G and is an update to a 6.5G file - which means that you have to have 7G available on your WOW drive to support the 3.0.2 install. Sadly (for me) I have WoW on an ancient 10G partition so I have to spend my evening installing my new 1T SATA and moving partitions and drives around to support a FRIGGIN VIDEO GAME.

Bother.

I now return you to your normally scheduled adult discussion.


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Reply #29 on: October 14, 2008, 12:10:22 PM

Excuse me while I whine...

The patch is about 1G and is an update to a 6.5G file - which means that you have to have 7G available on your WOW drive to support the 3.0.2 install. Sadly (for me) I have WoW on an ancient 10G partition so I have to spend my evening installing my new 1T SATA and moving partitions and drives around to support a FRIGGIN VIDEO GAME.

Bother.

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Reply #30 on: October 14, 2008, 12:17:45 PM

On the plus side, the WoW Directory is totally self-sufficient.  So at least there's not moving and registry hacks and other shite you have to do.  It's like tossing a pancake.

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Reply #31 on: October 14, 2008, 12:38:57 PM

Has anyone had any experience with elemental shaman and these new talents.  I don't feel like redownloading the game and resubbing just to check em out.  That thunderstorm spell looks neet.
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Reply #32 on: October 14, 2008, 01:27:42 PM

Has anyone had any experience with elemental shaman and these new talents.  I don't feel like redownloading the game and resubbing just to check em out.  That thunderstorm spell looks neet.

I'm going to spec into it, charge down the flag in EoTS and have some fun.

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Reply #33 on: October 14, 2008, 01:38:12 PM

The background dowloader got me to about 98% when I fired up WoW today. I usually have only teh hate for the Blizz downloader.



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Reply #34 on: October 14, 2008, 04:59:06 PM

On the plus side, the WoW Directory is totally self-sufficient.  So at least there's not moving and registry hacks and other shite you have to do.  It's like tossing a pancake.

Wot?


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