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Reply #175 on: January 15, 2009, 08:28:28 PM

Well, Vancouver just paid a lot of money to miss the playoffs.

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Reply #176 on: January 16, 2009, 11:42:09 AM

Well, Vancouver just paid a lot of money to miss the playoffs.

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Sundin = Serious Welps. He is going to be busto of Messier-in-Vancouver proportions. $10M for half a season is fucking bullshit. Fuck you very much baldy, I hope you contract anal herpes. Hopefully Luongo gets back into playing shape soon, or this season is doomed.

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Reply #177 on: January 16, 2009, 12:32:47 PM

I thought they couldn't pay a player more than what $8 million a year.

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Reply #178 on: January 16, 2009, 01:55:38 PM

Well, they originally offered him $20 over 2 years. So, it's gotta be close to 10M. The Rangers offered him $5M IIRC.

I'm not sure about the $8M cap...

Dany Heatley, LW Ottawa $10 million
Sidney Crosby, C Pittsburgh $9 million
Alexander Ovechkin, LW Washington $9 million
Miikka Kiprusoff, G Calgary $8.5 million

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Reply #179 on: January 16, 2009, 07:21:18 PM

What's up with Sundin? I haven't seen any news.

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Reply #180 on: January 16, 2009, 07:33:18 PM

He's almost 40, he missed training camp AND half the season, he's out of shape and he's been terrible since coming back.

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Reply #181 on: January 16, 2009, 07:53:27 PM

Oh, I thought he finally got hurt or something.

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Reply #182 on: January 16, 2009, 08:34:06 PM

He's unattractive as well.
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Reply #183 on: January 17, 2009, 11:16:55 PM

I thought they couldn't pay a player more than what $8 million a year.

The maximum is 20% of the current cap.  So if he signs for $10 mil, prorated he collects $5 mil.  Cap is around $56 mil so it works out.
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Reply #184 on: January 18, 2009, 07:43:36 AM

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Reply #185 on: January 18, 2009, 05:43:29 PM

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so it works out.

No, it doesn't.

I don't get it. Or are you just saying it was a dumbass signing?

Maybe it's a complete failure but Vancouver's position is they have some cap space to burn and they can make the equivalent of a deadline aquisition without any cost in players or draft picks.  And they still have some room left.  Outside of some dollars there's really no risk to the Canucks.

Sure I'd be worried about a 37 year old missing half the season, but if he gets back into form he's a great player.

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Reply #186 on: January 18, 2009, 06:10:56 PM

If he gets back into form before he gets hurt by being old and totally out of shape. Mats will generally get hurt at some point during the season with a more favourable combination of those two factors than he has going for himself right now.

Had Mats been playing the entire season, and playing well, picking him up would be great. This is a much less effective thing to do for your hockey team, considering there are other ways you could have used that cap space this season, than making a big splash before the deadline for instance.

The big complaint is that trades CAN'T be made because nobody has cap space. Vancouver could have been one of the FEW (very, very few) clubs in the position to make a big splash before the deadline. Instead, Sundin is currently doing shack jit.

However, if Sundin gets himself into shape and starts playing like Sundin without getting hurt the rest of the season, it should work out very well for Vancouver. I'm certainly not saying otherwise.

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Reply #187 on: January 19, 2009, 08:51:20 AM

Sundin had a sweet goal last night, then crapped the bed in the shootout by shooting 2 feet high (HIT THE FUCKING NET KTHX). He isn't the problem though- the major issue is that the entire defensive corps of the Canucks seems to have forgotten anything they ever knew about how to play defense. Countless turnovers, guys getting left all alone 5 feet from the net, etc. It is just horrifying.

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Reply #188 on: January 19, 2009, 11:41:41 AM

I thought he looked like he had hands of stone on that goal.

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Reply #189 on: January 19, 2009, 12:43:00 PM

The forehand deke and then backhand roof goal? Maybe I am just numb from watching Canucks who can't even get a fucking shot on the net, but it looked like a nice piece of skill to me.

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Reply #190 on: January 19, 2009, 12:52:36 PM

Well, I saw it a few times, but I wasn't watching all that closely. I may be wrong.

Edit: Yeah, I just went and watched a clear video. I was being too harsh, it was decent. I thought he juggled the puck like a fighter and stiffly went to his backhand. It was actually a decent fake.
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Reply #191 on: January 19, 2009, 01:04:47 PM

He utterly mangled a pull back and shoot attempt from the doorstep earlier in the game, so his hands are definitely still suspect  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #192 on: January 19, 2009, 01:08:25 PM

Well, I'll give him another week or two before bitching that the Canucks wasted money again.

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Reply #193 on: January 22, 2009, 06:26:42 AM

If you got rid of the overtime point, I'm pretty sure the leafs would be dead last or near enough to it. God damn overtime losses, keep giving those deluded schmucks hope.  awesome, for real

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Reply #194 on: January 22, 2009, 06:38:27 AM

If you got rid of the overtime point, I'm pretty sure the leafs would be dead last or near enough to it. God damn overtime losses, keep giving those deluded schmucks hope.  awesome, for real

Believe me, no one in Leaf land thinks they have a hope.  They've now resorted to cheering on the teams below them.  Take away the single point and they're pretty well in the same spot, give or take a rank.  They're pretty bad, but they are more watchable than the two previous non-playoff offerings.
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Reply #195 on: January 22, 2009, 04:47:35 PM

Flames go into the break 9 points up in the division. Pretty darn pleased with that.

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Reply #196 on: January 22, 2009, 06:00:22 PM

Amount of stars missing from All-Star game is kind of staggering.

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Reply #197 on: January 22, 2009, 08:47:30 PM

Amount of stars missing from All-Star game is kind of staggering.
Well, you get that when one team's fans cheat in the voting.

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Reply #198 on: January 22, 2009, 08:50:28 PM

You get that when the league cares more about press releases with AmAzInG NumBerS than, you know, putting in ANY check against multiple voting.

A million votes just isn't impressive whatsoever when you consider that there were people who set up macros to vote fifty thousand times.

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Reply #199 on: January 23, 2009, 07:26:23 AM

Yeah, becuase there was no ballot box stuffing or vote rigging before Montreal.  While they're at it they can look the amazing surge of votes for Crosby and Malkin (I think Gary Bettman voted 500,000 times himself).  It's nothing new.  If anything it shone a light on how broken the voting is. 

How about the fact there were no Sharks or Bruins voted in?  Or no Red Wings will actually play? Or that Tim Thomas wasn't even on the ballot?  ACK!

Anyways, it's the All Star game, big deal.  I take a little vacation from hockey for a while.
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Reply #200 on: January 23, 2009, 11:47:01 AM

It's true, nobody cares. It's for the kids and the kids in suits.

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Reply #201 on: January 23, 2009, 12:19:54 PM

I usually watch the skills competition, but that's about it.

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Reply #202 on: January 23, 2009, 12:28:37 PM

In theory, the skills competition would seem to be interesting. That's why I watch it.

In practice, it never really is.

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Reply #203 on: January 23, 2009, 02:58:53 PM

Are they doing the 'shoot out' competition again? That was pretty  awesome, for real last year.

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Reply #204 on: January 25, 2009, 06:54:48 AM

Yes.  Doan won, and it was pretty entertaining.  I wish St. Louis would've tried the reverse shot again for shits and giggles.

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Reply #205 on: January 25, 2009, 08:56:13 AM

The actual trick shot competition was embarassing.

Of course, Ovechkin won after being the worst out of the entire group.

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Reply #206 on: January 26, 2009, 12:57:00 PM

The actual trick shot competition was embarassing.

Of course, Ovechkin won after being the worst out of the entire group.

That was horrifying. If I was a casual fan and tuned in to see that fucking debacle,  I would never watch hockey again. I was embarrassed to be a hockey fan.

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Reply #207 on: January 26, 2009, 04:46:59 PM

The game itself was even worse - Tim Thomas was the only part of the game that stood out in my mind.

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Reply #208 on: January 26, 2009, 06:40:26 PM

Sec though.

Did Gerald Green play in the NBA All-Star game?

Like, why aren't people invited purely based on the event?

Most of the guys who go to the All-Star game aren't likely to work on moves throughout the season. The ones who did (Ovechkin) were just fucking awful.

There are young kids out there in the NHL that could never make the actual NHL All-Star game roster that'd probably be very happy to show up for the trick shot competition and would work on some moves.

And why the FUCK was it turned into a fucking relay?


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Reply #209 on: January 26, 2009, 06:43:49 PM

To try more shit?

Better question: what happened to the actual relay event?

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