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That was a really awesome episode. Thanks for reminding me it was on.
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Mad skills with the rod.
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Yaup, I just found it, thanks. Yeah, woah. I wish I could form some coherent sentence, but just...woah.  |
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Slyfeind
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And damn, the production value of that was high! I don't know if they saved money by going with just a few episodes this season, but it seems they put a lot into this one. I'd be happy if they kept this up. Maybe a few more episodes though.
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Wasn't a fan of Tinkerbell the Dalek.
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I liked the unwritten hint that even the Daleks knew that
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Which would be fine if it made ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER.
But it doesn't.
The Dalek would have fired. No matter what. It was just wedging WANK into an episode that didn't need it.
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I liked it more than I disliked it.
You know me; I wouldn't be me if there wasn't SOMETHING that bugged the fucked outta me. Tinkerbell was it.
It did reinforce how very much I am going to miss David though. I'm sure it wasn't only me that saw at the end how well he would have also played The Master.
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The first 55 minutes were awesome. The last 6 were a chasm of infinite retardation. All-Star Doctor Who came out of nowhere and was idiotic enough, but the fact he got past it 30 seconds later was pure  |
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Really? It's not like we haven't seen him in that sort of mode before, they've been foreshadowing that sort of attitude and Doctor for pretty much the whole of Tennant's run.
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Family of Blood showed just how HARDCORE he was.
He trapped a little girl in a mirror for fucks sake.
A MIRROR.
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Fraeg
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AFter thinking it about it today and getting over the  of new Who. Tinkerbell was silly and did not fit into Dalek Lore at all (even if she was a fixed point in time yada yada, a Dalek wouldn't care) Bringing those people back to the earth was so risky, hell bringing that robot back was a risk. That was straight up Russian Roulette with the world. ( and as Vanilla Ice said in Cool as Ice "thats a straight up fact Yo!") I think it would have had far more impact if it had ended as he walked away listening to them all die over the radio. Even if his "surprise I can break the rules" bit is just to move the plot forward for the end of David T's reign.. it was as clumsy as a tree sloth after a 4 day binge on cough syrup and ritalin. |
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As poorly done as the "Are you retarded or something? I'm the goddamn Time Lord!" was, I still would have been ok with it that phase of his life lasted more than THIRTY SECONDS. Even when Peter Parker refused to fight crime and went to class instead with his cool new haircut, we got 20 or 30 minutes out of it. Couldn't they have gotten a whole season or at least a few episodes out of that?
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Great episode over all. Sufficiently tense and creepy, and even if it was a little odd, the ending was unexpected, which is always good.
I find it funny that you guys are tearing apart details like Tinkerbell... The one thing that bugged me the most, was the Doctor standing on the surface of Mars in a space suit... with fires burning from the wreckage. Fire. On the surface of Mars.
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Those are mundane problems with it. We're more highbrow.  |
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I acquired and watched the Waters of Mars last night. It's a very good episode - well written, produced and acted. Watching Lindsay Duncan in a decent role made me watch to watch GBH again. Tennant is superb, and plays the dark aspects of The Doctor's character brilliantly. I'm glad that he's leaving because I have no confidence that the writing will remain up to the current high standards. Of course, I would love to have seen what he could do with Michael Moorcock's undoubtedly original take on the character, although there is no indication at this point that the book that Moorcock is planning to write will be made into a screenplay. |
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Fraeg
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The Doctor's new companion: Moonglum  wow that is, just wow... I will certainly be buying that book. By Arioch my Sonic Screwdriver shall suck your soul! |
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Well, that was certainly....something.
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It's amazing how no matter how little I expect from Doctor Who anymore, I seem to get a little less than that.
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Best thing about RTD quitting is that they may be able to get an actual script editor in. I mean, that was like he wrote a rough first draft and then went "fuck it, it's good enough. Let's roll!"
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It's on in the US tonight and the last bit is on January 2. (in case anyone didn't remember) There is some show named "Demons" on after that has the boss guy from Life on Mars in it. There wasn't a description of the show but I finally saw a trailer and it seems to be yet another vampire thingy. I'm so tired of vampires.
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't see that coming.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Very good. I'm going to miss Tennant and Davies, that's for sure.
WHAT will happen next?.?.?.?.? (Trying to make may question marks not look like sadface!)
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What was with the spittle from Time Lord Dalton?
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Anyhoo, it was indeed a pretty rough script, I think. RTD's fetishes have definitely outstayed their welcome, though lots of credit to him for making the series as a whole really viable again. The best Eccleston and Tennant episodes (whatever you think of the actors' take on the character) are better than anything in the pre-RTD history of the series as stories, IMHO. There's been some great thinking about the character, his situation, and so on under Davies. Just...I don't want to see any more "dumbfuck plutocrat/bureaucrat who fatuously miscalculates his ability to control magic technology that he scarcely understands through working with demonstrably evil collaborator(s)". I'm kind of done with the whole celebrity-worship thing. And so on.
The funny thing is that RTD's best moments have almost always been the quiet scenes, not the spectacles: the scene in the cafe and the Doctor and Master reminscing were the best here, for example.
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About the cafe scene-
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I liked Part 1. But:
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Spoilers ? Really ?
Well, ok.
Anyone who didn't see this coming the minute 'Dalek' aired is an idiot.
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I really didn't get the Master in this one, what is it with RTD and finales equalling sudden new magical powers for whoever it might look cool for? Overall I didn't dislike it, as others have said the quiet moments that involve some thinking about explanations and let the actors really work without effects or explosions are his best moments, though I can imagine having a very different attitude if I was 12 and watching it.
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I'm slightly annoyed that we seem to be pushing the 'kids these days won't like a villain that just thinks'.
No, he has to shoot lightning.
Jesus.
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I'd love to see the Master be more cerebral, less flamboyantly whacko, in some future version.
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What I really needed to see tonight was an old gay man wanking off.
Thanks BBC.
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