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Signe
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I didn't like Martha, either. They should have cast her as the same character she had previously played.
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Khaldun
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The problem with Martha was that Davies was still stuck on "Doctor is a sexy sexy devil, and all females want to fuck him" schtick. I think it was fine when he introduced a sexual undertone for the first time: it was an acceptable twist to the formula. I thought it was ok when he suggested that Sarah Jane basically got so stuck on the Doctor that she burned her sex life on a pyre and waited for menopause to strike her hoping he'd come back. But enough's enough. Martha would have been fine if she was an interesting, intelligent professional who was fascinated by the Doctor's world and got caught up in his struggle. Which she was at times in her run--it's just that then Davies would get his wires crossed and go back to "Martha's in loooooove with the Doctor" thing.
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Triforcer
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Oh, she wasn't that bad. I'm glad we went from Martha to Donna, though. Donna, while not exactly as beautiful, seemed to have more sense than the two previous companions put together.
I'm worried that since we are getting a 26 year old emo doctor they'll go back to the well, though.
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Khaldun
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Yeah. I'm completely willing to like the next Doctor but I do not want "young adults with hormones". Just don't want it. Youthful energy, fine. Old soul in young body, fine. Doctor and companion constantly doing bedroom eyes at each other, no. Constant sexual tension, done with it.
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Evildrider
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Martha was crap, I just didn't like her. I think Donna was the best of the new companions. Rose was good too, but I think her *relationship* with the Doctor should have been the last of the Doc/Companion romances.
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HaemishM
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I actually like that Martha was obviously attracted to the Doctor but knew better than to get hooked on him. It was a good transition from romantic doctor to the Doctor Donna relationship, a rebound companion as it were. Not sure how Emo Doctor and the Waif are going to get along, but we've already seen that the Doctor does get involved with a companion in another regen.
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Slyfeind
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I liked Martha so much, because first she was trying to be taken seriously as a doctor despite being young and cute, but also wanted to be taken seriously as someone the Doctor could be involved with, AND she knew she was living under the shadow of a lot of other companions, that it all became a study in what happens when someone realizes they'll never live up to anybody's expectations, and THEN what do they do?
They spend a whole year being underappreciated, work behind the scenes to save the world, then continue to live like that forever.
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Ironwood
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Uplifting stuff !
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Slyfeind
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AND she stays sexy through it all!
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Surlyboi
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The Family of Blood episodes are what ultimately sold me on Martha. She was bad. ass. in that.
There are plenty of other instances where the companion saves the Doctor's ass (and not accidentally, like Rose did.) but that's one of the high points.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Ironwood
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The Crush Ruined Her.
It's that simple.
Everything she did that was impressive and clever and daring and quick was totally trampled by her mooning all over the shop like a daft cow.
Even the Sontaran Strategem had her Engaged to be Married and mooning like a lovelorn twonky.
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Soln
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I really didn't like Donna in the Xmas special. And then she became my favorite companion, possibly ever. She seemed to be the companion with the most depth and the most balls.
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Slyfeind
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Yeah Donna took a while to grow on me, but when she did, I think she became my favorite. Donna's really at the heart of the show, someone unassuming but with so much potential, then realized it, then had to give it all up, and she wasn't all lovestruck or whatever. She was the Doctor's true friend, and that's a dynamic hard to pull off on TV, male-female friends. AND of course she has a reputation for really good comedy, so it was awesome to see her play something straight and subtle like that. Without getting all dark even!
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Ironwood
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The time beetle episode was dark as fuck.
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Slyfeind
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Hm, yeah it was.
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Fraeg
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I do not enjoy the show Torchwood... In fact I have been known to say it sucks sweaty gerbil gonads since about mid season 1. Now with that said, if you are a Who fan go download the Torchwood 5 part miniseries Children of Earth.
It is right up there with some of the very best of Who. Don't wanna toss out any spoilers to folks who haven't seen it but my god did they redeem themselves in a big way with this.
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JWIV
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I'm slowly working my way through Season 1 of this right now. Watching Empty Child & The Doctor Dances alone in the house after midnight was maybe not my best plan. I was completely not expecting that level of creepiness from Dr. Who.
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Bunk
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Obviously you never watched Dr. Who from "behind the couch" as a child.
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Khaldun
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Just remember to watch Blink in the middle of the day. With friends around.
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NowhereMan
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I've just rewatched the library, both parts, on iPlayer. God that was a great episode.
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Khaldun
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The Library episode is really just about my favorite in the entire history of the series, especially the second part.
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NowhereMan
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Oh man, rewatching the series 4 finale and I had totally forgotten how awesome German speaking Daleks are.
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Khaldun
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Iiiiinteresting.
I think I'm getting now why the Doctor apparently freaks out when he realizes where and when he is. This is going to be one of those times where he's expressly not supposed to change how things turn out, and I'm guessing that he's gonna eventually feel compelled to break the rules and pay a price.
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Evildrider
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I'm really gonna miss Tennant. I don't have any high hopes for the new Dr.
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Ard
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You know, to be fair, I didn't have much hope for Tennant when Eccleston left. I'm willing to at least see how it turns out given how absolutely right Tennant was for the role after all.
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Samwise
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You know, to be fair, I didn't have much hope for Tennant when Eccleston left. I'm willing to at least see how it turns out given how absolutely right Tennant was for the role after all.
This. And it took me a few episodes to warm up to Tennant, or for him to find the character, I'm not sure which. I'll give the new guy the benefit of the doubt for at least that long.
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NowhereMan
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Some new pics of the new Doctor out. He doesn't look nearly as bad as that first Twilighty picture suggested. Still not sure what it's going to be like though.
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Evildrider
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Umm.. ya.. I'm not in love with that Kate Gosselin haircut there.
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Ironwood
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You know, to be fair, I didn't have much hope for Tennant when Eccleston left. I'm willing to at least see how it turns out given how absolutely right Tennant was for the role after all.
This. And it took me a few episodes to warm up to Tennant, or for him to find the character, I'm not sure which. I'll give the new guy the benefit of the doubt for at least that long. Kinda this. In a way. Difference for me is Tennant got it straight away for me (his intro in the Christmas Invasion worked for me so very well) and, well, new guy still doesn't look right. Hard to explain. Ye Gods, that picture.
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Fraeg
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Some new pics of the new Doctor out. He doesn't look nearly as bad as that first Twilighty picture suggested. Still not sure what it's going to be like though.
Robert Smith - the makeup + J. Crew + a dash of Brooks Brothers = I hope for the best, and me being me I know I will watch each and every episode even if this guy is as bad as the dark years in the 80s. It was a bit of a shock when I realized that for the first time ever I will be older than the actor playing the Doctor.
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AutomaticZen
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That was the first thing that struck me. That I was older than the Doctor finally.
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Simond
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Why can't every episode be like that one?
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NowhereMan
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That was a really awesome episode. Thanks for reminding me it was on.
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« Last Edit: November 15, 2009, 03:27:13 PM by NowhereMan »
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Slyfeind
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We have to wait till next month in the States. >_<
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