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Reply #1260 on: June 01, 2013, 05:37:14 PM

How about Victoria Becham or Kim Kardashian?  why so serious?

It might be time for the series to embrace an American - maybe Luke Perry?  why so serious?
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Reply #1261 on: June 01, 2013, 05:53:57 PM

Idriss. Fucking. Elba.

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Reply #1262 on: June 01, 2013, 06:17:19 PM

Idris Elba is a genuinely good idea.

I'm cool with a woman too--if I trusted Moffat et al not to turn the entire season into "Hey, look, I have a vagina now and menstruate and stuff", which I don't.
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Reply #1263 on: June 01, 2013, 06:59:48 PM

What if Clara is actually not only the "impossible girl" but also the next Doctor?
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Reply #1264 on: June 01, 2013, 07:19:43 PM

I'd buy THAT for a dollar.

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Reply #1265 on: June 01, 2013, 08:28:54 PM

What if Clara is actually not only the "impossible girl" but also the next Doctor?
I was wondering about that, a year ago Moffat was publicly musing about the possibility of a "Doctor Her", and then when Jenna-Louise was brought in there was *far* more Top-Secret behavior than seemed justified for just another Companion.

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Reply #1266 on: June 01, 2013, 09:05:31 PM

A female doc would be kind of cool.  But I don't really care.  I kind of just hope it's not another goofy, pasty white guy though.  They need someone different and severe to cleanse the palate.  And they need to get rid of the horrible handwaviness that seems to wrap up every episode and nerd fantasy companions.  I think Matt Smith did admirably given what he had to work with though.
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Reply #1267 on: June 01, 2013, 10:05:58 PM

How about Victoria Becham or Kim Kardashian?  why so serious?

It might be time for the series to embrace an American - maybe Luke Perry?  why so serious?

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Reply #1268 on: June 01, 2013, 10:53:50 PM

Americans don't play Americans on tv anymore.  They'd have to get an Australian or kiwi to fake an American accent if they went that way.
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Reply #1269 on: June 02, 2013, 01:09:29 AM

Personally I'm hoping for Kylie, or Jason Statham.

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Reply #1270 on: June 02, 2013, 01:11:43 AM

Actually no. I just remembered the comic relief special. They should bring back Joanna Lumley.

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Reply #1271 on: June 02, 2013, 01:21:01 AM

Wait, I'm confused (again). John Hurt isn't the next doctor? What was that reveal at the end of the season all about then? Is he going to be another The Doctor rather than the The Doctor? What's going on?

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Reply #1272 on: June 02, 2013, 01:26:51 AM

I think all we really got is he's possibly a part of the Doctor that all his incarnations have turned their back on.  No one really knows yet, but there are a lot of theories out there.
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Reply #1273 on: June 02, 2013, 02:01:43 AM

Wait, I'm confused (again). John Hurt isn't the next doctor? What was that reveal at the end of the season all about then? Is he going to be another The Doctor rather than the The Doctor? What's going on?

John Hurt is the doctor if you believe really hard that he is.

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Reply #1274 on: June 02, 2013, 02:22:16 AM

Seriously, read the link I posted.

If Hurt isn't playing the Valeyard incarnation, I'll be surprised.

Though I'd like to go on record as saying that I think the whole Valeyard thing was retardery that predated Moffat by a long time.  Doesn't surprise me he finally dug it up tho.

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Reply #1275 on: June 02, 2013, 03:59:56 AM

Unff. The Valeyard stuff you mean? That does sound like it'll be ripe for Moffat to utterly, utterly fuck up.

Poor John Hurt.

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Reply #1276 on: June 02, 2013, 04:43:38 AM


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Reply #1277 on: June 02, 2013, 06:20:34 AM



Is this true?  A buddy just passed this around on his G+ page.

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Reply #1278 on: June 02, 2013, 07:35:38 AM

No. That's a shitty shoop.

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Reply #1279 on: June 02, 2013, 07:50:00 AM

Benedict Cumberbatch should be the next doctor and Martin Freeman the next companion.

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Reply #1280 on: June 02, 2013, 11:44:21 AM


Hmmmm.

That sounds interesting actually.

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Reply #1281 on: June 02, 2013, 12:39:00 PM

It would kind of make sense if he became the valeyard for that specific incarnation, and you could blame all the Colin Baker stuff on his own self loathing and borderline insanity.


The problem, of course, is that there are no writers involved who are likely to be able to write a satisfying version of what daddy did in the war.

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Reply #1282 on: June 02, 2013, 12:55:34 PM

I think all we really got is he's possibly a part of the Doctor that all his incarnations have turned their back on.  No one really knows yet, but there are a lot of theories out there.

My theory is that he represents the Doctor before he became the Doctor, He is the pure Timelord portion of the Doctor's being. I suspect the whole history of the Doctor where he banished the Timelords and destroyed an entire galaxy to exterminate the cybermen takes place before he became "The Doctor."

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Reply #1283 on: June 02, 2013, 01:32:21 PM

That's pretty much exactly what I thought as well.  It wasn't until I came to the internet and saw that so many people were overthinking it that I started to doubt myself.
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Reply #1284 on: June 02, 2013, 02:04:36 PM

Matt Smith leaving without ever having had a full season of worthwhile scripts is a goddamn shame. He did a spectacular job with complete and utter nothing to work with. He (and the hotness that was Amy Pond and is Clara) were the only reasons I kept watching through the Moffatry.

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Reply #1285 on: June 02, 2013, 03:19:52 PM

I can't find it anymore for a link, but a while back I signed some sort of online petition to remove Moffat.

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Reply #1286 on: June 02, 2013, 04:47:06 PM

Was it on whitehouse.gov?
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Reply #1287 on: June 02, 2013, 06:00:00 PM

I don't buy that Hurt is the "tortured enderer of the Time War."  The Ninth Doctor was extremely open about everything he did (I think he said something like "I burned them all up.").  It wasn't a secret then.   

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Reply #1288 on: June 02, 2013, 07:26:03 PM

The idea that the ender of the Time War is a secret shame, etc., makes no sense. The Doctor has been very open about having done it, on occasion coming this close to bragging about it. No sense of secret, if some sense of regret.

I'm hoping Hurt is the pre-Hartnell Doctor--that the Doctor did something early in his life that changed him completely--went along with something bad. Maybe the story of Omega and Rassilon has a sort of third chapter involving the Timelords doing one additional thing that gave them their powers that was really sinister or horrible. We've never learned how they got their regeneration cycle, for example. Maybe the Doctor played an important role in that and then rejected what he'd done and what his people were becoming, rejected his family and estate, regenerated into Hartnell and lived a life where he stewed over what he'd done, maybe tried to persuade his fellow Time Lords to undo it, etc. and when he gave up on that, grabbed his favorite grand-daughter and decided to go renegade.
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Reply #1289 on: June 03, 2013, 02:41:27 AM

I don't buy that Hurt is the "tortured enderer of the Time War."  The Ninth Doctor was extremely open about everything he did (I think he said something like "I burned them all up.").  It wasn't a secret then.   

I'd like to go on record that I don't think it's the case either :  I just think it's a more interesting proposition than what I'm thinking.

Also, The Doctor, in that WONDERFUL conversation with The Master, was quite clear that it was something he did and while he's not proud of it, he accepted it as HIS.

(Seriously, if you haven't watched that particular scene, get it.  John Simm and Tennant were utter mesmerising.

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Reply #1290 on: June 04, 2013, 05:29:15 AM

At some point, it has to not be a white guy or they're going to end up in the position Star Trek is with gay characters. Too late by so long that it's embarrassing and difficult to deal with other than just plain apologizing for being idiots. Put me down as favoring someone over 30 and a woman. They keep going sillier and younger. I love me a cranky old doctor. She's already said she wants it and I'd love to see Helen Mirren. She was on my shortlist last time.

Russel Tovey seems to be on everyone's short list. He's not on mine, but if he is, just go nuts and reveal that Midshipman Frame was the doctor and bring on Captain Jack as his occasional lover.

I love Idris Elba, but the more I think, the less I think doctor. Maybe it's just what I've seen him in, but too intense and in the wrong ways. Though if Mr. Craig is looking to find something else to do with his time, I wouldn't weep to see him as Bond.

I have over 20 episodes to slog through though. Mr. Moffat has turned this from "watch it first thing on the DVR and sometimes live" to "watch while it's raining and I'm stuck at home alone with my daughter."

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Reply #1291 on: June 04, 2013, 05:45:45 AM

The idea that the ender of the Time War is a secret shame, etc., makes no sense. The Doctor has been very open about having done it, on occasion coming this close to bragging about it. No sense of secret, if some sense of regret.

I'm hoping Hurt is the pre-Hartnell Doctor--that the Doctor did something early in his life that changed him completely--went along with something bad. Maybe the story of Omega and Rassilon has a sort of third chapter involving the Timelords doing one additional thing that gave them their powers that was really sinister or horrible. We've never learned how they got their regeneration cycle, for example. Maybe the Doctor played an important role in that and then rejected what he'd done and what his people were becoming, rejected his family and estate, regenerated into Hartnell and lived a life where he stewed over what he'd done, maybe tried to persuade his fellow Time Lords to undo it, etc. and when he gave up on that, grabbed his favorite grand-daughter and decided to go renegade.

That would be a nice little storyline. Plenty of material there to expand on, and in terms of some of these wrtiers, completely fuck up.

As an aside, I have a question. The Doctor's daughter. She is a Timelord correct? And thus, she is alive and fully stocked on regenerations. Or was there some caveat that negated that? Might be a possibility for the future is this really is the final Doctor coming up and could give rise to an all female run - not the Doctor per se but yeah....

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Reply #1292 on: June 04, 2013, 05:53:17 AM

Yes, she's a Time-Lord with 11 or 12 regenerations left.

However, there's something 'odd' about her that we're not yet privvy to.  It's possible due to the duplicate nature of the DNA, The Doctor can't sense her.  He's still of the opinion that he's the only Time Lord, despite us knowing different.

It would be really, really good if she could come back as a companion at some point.  Especially given that you have total leeway with casting as it's in built handwavvy at this point.  Romana was awesome and even the nonsense that was The Rani had enough meat on it to be fun.


Khaldun has an interesting story there, so it'll almost certainly be rejected.  There's also the issue that you can't really retroactively make regenerations, since up to 5, The Doctor himself stated that he hadn't had one, if you follow me.

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Reply #1293 on: June 04, 2013, 07:35:46 AM

Having him change genders would seem odd to me. You can't change genders and be the same person (people in real life do not change genders to my knowledge, they might change sex which is not the same thing (if he changed sex but not gender that would make him a transexual which I wouldn't  object to but I don't think anyone's suggesting that as a storyline)).

I know there's a tendency in fandom at the moment to say that if you don't think he can be a woman than that makes you a misogynist but I'd be more than happy to go without the Doctor for a few years and watch the adventures of Romana instead. Or indeed to have a male time lord and a female companion who does more than make doe eyes at him.
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Reply #1294 on: June 04, 2013, 08:55:14 AM

I believe they already established that timelords can regenerate across sex.

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