Heroes

[Bunk]

Mondays (beginning January 5)
8-10 p.m. -- Superstars of Dance
Note: premieres Sunday, January 4 (9-11 p.m.); Season Finale Monday, January 26 (8-9 p.m.)
10-11 p.m. – Momma's Boys
(Chuck and Heroes return in February)

Looks like typical. Series don't usualy run back to back on themselves.

Also, 2 hours of Superstars of Dance!!! 

[voodoolily]

Thank god for BBC America, is all I have to say about that.

The thing I love about Heroes right now is that it is a total soap opera, and train wreck, just like Paris Hilton's New BFF. It treads into So Bad It's Good territory to me, and that's okay. I like Taco Bell sometimes too, almost as much as a nice moules frites with aioli.

[Morfiend]

I love how all you assholes complain every week, all "ruined, ruined! it's dead to me, dead! deus ex machina (wtf does that even mean, anyway)!", and yet you keep watching. Even if it's just to bitch about it. Which may actually be worse, fucking trolls.

(Now's when you guys all get bent outta shape and reiterate ad nauseum why it sucks and why it's ruined, dead to you, etc.)

Let me quote myself for you.

If my girlfriend didn't demand I watch it with her, it would have been off my DVR quite a while ago.

[Samprimary]

The thing I love about Heroes right now is that it is a total soap opera, and train wreck,

So why be offended that other people are enjoying talking about the show bein' a train wreck if you agree it's a train wreck?

[Tale]

I just caught up on episodes 5-10 and I actually enjoyed watching them back-to-back. It felt more like the old Heroes - I suppose it didn't feel so drawn out.

[HaemishM]

Phew. Chuck and Heroes return in February. Which still sucks monkey cock, but at least Chuck isn't canceled.

[voodoolily]

So why be offended that other people are enjoying talking about the show bein' a train wreck if you agree it's a train wreck?

I just get tired of seeing all the hate and rage. I love it for the reasons you lot hate it.

[Tale]

Heroes return in February

Local TV might not even buy it - it's down to 11pm timeslot and 300,000 viewers, instead of 2 million viewers at 8.30pm.

[Jain Zar]

I got to see last Monday's episode yesterday and it was lots of fun mostly.  Hiro and Parkman just fucking make the show, and HRG was back to his awesome self, whilst we had Veronica Mars and Young Spock being all hot and sexy Bonnie & Clyde style, only twice as fucking crazy in the head.

But I seem to be in opposite land from most of you.  I thought the first 2-3 episodes were incredibly shitty and I nearly quit, but yall sorta kept me watching.  Now I like it, and most everyone else here seems to think its butt.

The Pod People need to hurry up and convert me over.  It sucks here in (I'm an) Individual Land.  :(

[Cyrrex]

I know the bandwagon is headed in the other direction, but I actually pretty well liked this last episode.  It's getting sorta back on track for me. 

[Slyfeind]

I missed last week's episode so I wasn't entirely sure how things led up to this point, but I'm liking the way things are going for now. It'll never be as good as that first season, because everything was so omg new back then, but it's still good stuff. I don't understand the hate for it.

Hiro was freaking awesome. I loved the juxtaposition of OMG DARK SYLAR KILLING then Hiro...well, he just does his thing. He's just Hiro and that's that.

[Cyrrex]

At the end, where he pops in (Bad Man!) and out three times in quick succession...that was awesome.

[Slyfeind]

Thinking back on it, I really feel like that was symbolic of the whole season so far....

[Cyrrex]

Yeah, pretty much.  Might seem like a cheap tactic, but that's what's awesome about Hiro...when he finally decides to, he can basically do whatever the fuck he wants.

[Grimwell]

OH man.... Cyrrex you need to get that on the web and watch the end fast.

FAST

Last night was a very good episode IMO.

[Cyrrex]

Lol, I feel stupid...totally forgot I could do that.  Thank you, Intarwebs!

[HaemishM]

I'm afraid I don't share the positive feelings about this episode.

[Grimwell]

One small nit to pick..

Just saying... cause they have done plenty of hokey stuff and this isn't much of a stretch.

[Morfiend]

I'm afraid I don't share the positive feelings about this episode.

Same. The writing is just horrible. I WANT the show to be good, but its so bad it makes me want to break stuff.


They need to kill off about 90% of the characters and get new ones like they did with Niki. Kill Nathan, kill Claire, kill everyone except Peter, Hiro (and Ando) and Parkman. HRG should have been a reappearing act, not a focal point. Stop bringing in lame badguys like BlueFireGuy.

Oh yeah, stop making Peter all Emo.

[Samwise]

I knew it and you knew it, but a good number of people in this thread were speculating that this would result in the powers being "shuffled" or something stupid like that.

[palmer_eldritch]

One small nit to pick..

Just saying... cause they have done plenty of hokey stuff and this isn't much of a stretch.

[Jain Zar]

The show had me back.  Now this episode makes me hate it again.  So much stupid in one place.

About the only good things were Hiro and Parkman and Speedgal.  HRG being ok but not great.  You would think he would fucking have finished the job he began in this episode.  Guy with his skills and knowledge effectively acted like a survivor from a fucking horror movie!

Its because of them that I will even bother to give the show to the holiday break.  Whenever I think the show is getting good, it finds ways to be even more stupid. 

The good news is a friend showed me Hulu and that it has the first 2 seasons of Babylon 5.  So if this show finishes off my desire to enjoy anything besides Hiro and Parkman's storylines I can find somehing else to watch for a while.

[Pennilenko]

The show had me back.  Now this episode makes me hate it again.  So much stupid in one place.

About the only good things were Hiro and Parkman and Speedgal.  HRG being ok but not great.  You would think he would fucking have finished the job he began in this episode.  Guy with his skills and knowledge effectively acted like a survivor from a fucking horror movie!

Its because of them that I will even bother to give the show to the holiday break.  Whenever I think the show is getting good, it finds ways to be even more stupid. 

The good news is a friend showed me Hulu and that it has the first 2 seasons of Babylon 5.  So if this show finishes off my desire to enjoy anything besides Hiro and Parkman's storylines I can find somehing else to watch for a while.

I disagree, the show was fun. I like it.

[apocrypha]

I hate to do this, but I just can't bring myself to wade through 11 pages of this.... can someone give me a brief rating of the seasons after 1? I quite enjoyed season 1, I thought it had some decent moments but was nothing amazing.

Suppose I want to know if the rest of it is going to offend me with shiteness or if I'll be able to just treat it as mildly entertaining fun.

[Rasix]

I hate to do this, but I just can't bring myself to wade through 11 pages of this.... can someone give me a brief rating of the seasons after 1? I quite enjoyed season 1, I thought it had some decent moments but was nothing amazing.

Suppose I want to know if the rest of it is going to offend me with shiteness or if I'll be able to just treat it as mildly entertaining fun.

I think the show's a good premise with a lot of bad writing, bad casting, bad acting, and bad pacing.  It's pretty entertaining throughout, however, and a few story lines always seem to redeem it as greater than total crap.  I just couldn't take the idiocy and dumb crap that was happening of this beginning of this season and dumped it. 

I'd say you'll likely be pretty safe watching the next season or two. Heck, you may never reach your breaking point.  Kind of like how I kept watching Buffy until the end although season 7 was eroding my will to live.

[apocrypha]

OK cool, I'll start finding out when it's on again then :)

[Venkman]

Oh yeah, stop making Peter all Emo.

Ya know, I realized tonight I have a pretty high tolerance for a lot of the bullshit they've pulled this season. Last season they could get away with the halfway-through contradiction because of the writer's strike. This season though it's like the writing staff literally got up and left, and they're using standins. I know something was said about that here, but I can't find it. It seems like the first six episodes were the springtime team and everything that's followed has been whoever they had left hamfisting it.

But I can take Sylar being an on again/off again good/bad/emo/goth guy. I can take HRG being a psychotic over-protective father being setup to actually have an agenda besides protecting his family. I can even take emo Pete.

What I CAN'T take is divinely-intervened Nathan. Once, at the beginning of the season, ok. I can deal. Particularly if they do something with, which of course he didn't. It seemed to happen again at one point but I can't remember the episode and don't feel like looking it up. And now he's all GoGoPinehurst with the zealot look of a True Believer. Again.

[Erdrick]

I think that this episode for the most part redeemed alot of what happened in the last few shows.

[Merusk]

"Oh.  Cake!" *door slams shut*

"You're not a killer, Peter.  I am."   

[Nevermore]

Oh, and using Chad Faust from the 4400 as the marine was pretty cool.

[HaemishM]

Again, I'm torn. There were some good moments, mostly with Sylar (but especially with Hiro and his mother) followed by some serious cringe-worthy moments with Claire. Really, everything with Claire is bugging me now, as is Mohinder.

"What's happening?"

"I don't know!" Goddamnit, you're the fucking scientist that just injected something into another living being. You don't have any idea of the process? ARE YOU COMPLETELY RETARDED?

Oh wait, scales on the face say yes.

Kill Mohinder, kill Ali Larter's useless character, take Claire off the stage or just make her interesting again ang give Peter back his fucking powers. And get to the Hulk smashing.

[Grimwell]

I was let down by how fast Hiro gained something meaningful to him as a character, and then had it ripped away from him by the evil bad man for the season.

It had the potential to be meaningful character development, and was pissed away in about five minutes. Not the best writing there. Plus, if it was that easy to just take, it didn't have to sit there until Hiro got it. It makes his character moment even more trivial.

[Venkman]

That part was what bugged me too. The rest was ok, but I'm getting conditioned to fast forwarding through all of the Claire parts. They're cloying in a Anakin/Padme or Peter Parker/MJ in the movies bad sorta way.

[MrHat]

This episode just really made me miss 4400.

[Nevermore]

This episode just really made me miss 4400.

I like the 4400 but it was just as much of a mess, if not more so, than Heroes is right now.  And the acting was even worse, though it did have Summer Glau in a few episodes.