Heroes

[HaemishM]

Way way too much soap opera sexual attraction shit in this one.


This show needs a great big hero on villain fight that blows shit up so terribly bad.

[Tebonas]

I was waiting for Elle and Sylar making some pottery together. It was that bad!

[Samprimary]

Well I am about to give up hope on even trying to convince people that the show is worth saving because everyone's turning against it so harshly.

Admittedly I have stopped watching it myself even when I think there's nothing else I wanna watch in that general timeframe! I would rather play solitaire!

[Ookii]

Holy shit, the only thing worse than that episode appears to be what I see in the preview for next week.

[voodoolily]

Uh, Zachary Quinto without a shirt? 

[Reg]

She lightning bolted it right off of him, leaving his pants completely unharmed.

Maybe it's just me but if I were female and had that power and wanted revenge on the guy who murdered my dad I think I'd aim a bit lower.

[Venkman]

Holy shit, the only thing worse than that episode appears to be what I see in the preview for next week.

That's the beauty of watching it on the NBC site (in addition to being able to multitask through the crappy parts). They don't show the previews, so you don't know that things are only getting worse until you watch the next episode 

[Venkman]

Funny that there's enough room for a B-movies about heroes but not enough to call it Heroes 

[Samprimary]

If Pushing Daisies gets canceled for Heroes, someone needs to stab a motherfucker.

It's your job to stab a motherfucker now.

[Samprimary]

GO STAB SOME MOTHERFUCKERS, DUDE (do not stab me please)

STAB STAB (someone else)

[schild]

i am very upset about this

[Triforcer]

Yeah.  If there is one superpower they could add to save the show, its actual writing talent. 

[FatuousTwat]

Why do people still watch this?

[Tale]

This series of Heroes has been moved way back late into the evening in Australia - that's unheard-of, it's Heroes, it used to rate its tits off.

[voodoolily]

Why do people still watch this?

Uh, Zachary Quinto without a shirt? 

[Jain Zar]

Yet again I am in opposite from everyone else land.  I actually am enjoying the season far more than I did in the beginning.
Though I agree Daphne getting all googly for Parkman and his widdle chubby wubby face (If they ever make a new Spaceballs movie he is SOOO a Mawg...) was a bit too abrupt and quick.

I had no problem with Sylar and Veronica Mars hotness though.  Mainly cuz Kristen Bell is smokin and her character has pretty much been shown to be fucked up mentally from the start anyhow.
(And the previous week was part of her and Sylar's continuing retcon into interesting characters.  Too bad its doing things like comics though which REAAALLLLY stretches believability in the process.  Comic book writers do it all the time sadly.  And we are supposed to pay 3.99 US now for 22 monthly pages of this kinda shite?  Riiight....)

[Cyrrex]

Unsure what to think.  Moderate improvement, I guess.  Seems like they are trying to undo a bunch of their mistakes, which may be a good thing in the long term.  I'm genuinely curious to see how they will resolve the loss of powers.  Maybe they'll swap them around a bit.

The scenes with Clare and her daddy were annoying, however.  Make up your fucking minds, already.

[Phire]

I LOL'd hard when Parkman kept doing that silly head tilt and when Daphne came out of the room on crutches. Both just looked ridiculous especially the crutches.

The Canadian preview revealed a bit too much about next weeks episode and I can see things either going really well or really bad depending on who they kill off. (If they even go that far)

[Xuri]

I hereby predict that they will all get their powers back the moment the moon shuffles over and gives the sun some space.

[tazelbain]

Sylar and Clair could both die since their actors look to be heading on to bigger things.

The eclipse scream deus ex machina.  At very least why wouldn't the the old heroes know about the the eclipses?

[Cyrrex]

I LOL'd hard when Parkman kept doing that silly head tilt and when Daphne came out of the room on crutches. Both just looked ridiculous especially the crutches.

I thought the head tilt thing was genuinely funny, because they were poking a bit of fun at themselves.

The Daphne twist caught me off guard, and it was a fairly clever resolution to the personal problem they were leading up to.  But for fuck sake, make the bitch practice some more on the damn things before you shoot the scene, okay?  She looked like a person who had never even seen crutches before, let alone had tried them herself.

[Morfiend]

So last nights episode was only "really bad" not "fucking horrible".

Zain, its ok that you play with dolls and lots toys all over the place and have questionable taste. But this season is bad beyond belief. The writing just went down the drain.

"It's Coming" sheesh. HORRIBLE!

If my girlfriend didn't demand I watch it with her, it would have been off my DVR quite a while ago.

[Hawkbit]

Yeah, I'm veeeerrrry close to chucking this series.  It's been one of my favorites, but after last season, the slow start of this one and the lightning-bolt burning a shirt away love sickness, I'm nearly done. 

[HaemishM]

I'm on the fence as well. This episode finally made me figure out the problem. It's not just that there's too much soap opera stories bleeding into the narrative (with the who loves who shit). It's that the whole framing of the show has gone soap opera. The way the camera will shift from one person to the other (during the Elle/Sylar/Arthur scene), the way the characters recap what's been going on every time they come back from commercial and even some of the dialogue. It's way too soap opera and not nearly enough comic book action. Go ahead and dragon punch a motherfucker, goddamnit.

[Abagadro]

I went from having this on while I do something else to fast forwarding through the dumb parts to deleting it from my DVR as of yesterday. Feh.

[Nevermore]

I'm on the fence as well. This episode finally made me figure out the problem. It's not just that there's too much soap opera stories bleeding into the narrative (with the who loves who shit). It's that the whole framing of the show has gone soap opera. The way the camera will shift from one person to the other (during the Elle/Sylar/Arthur scene), the way the characters recap what's been going on every time they come back from commercial and even some of the dialogue. It's way too soap opera and not nearly enough comic book action. Go ahead and dragon punch a motherfucker, goddamnit.

It stems from a lack of focus in the story and a lack of consistency in the characterizations, both signs of bad, bad writing.  At this point it's very obvious the writers don't really have any idea where they're going with the story.  They're just making shit up as they go along.  Can we get Bryan Fuller back now, please?

Edit: at least they ditched that horrendous voice over during the recap at the beginning of the show.

[Venkman]

Yea it really does feel like they lost the good writers from the show. The premise still works for me, even the ever-changing conditions of the main characters (we watched them get powerful and now what how they adapt). But that flashback episode really does seem to be the flipping point. Stuff made sense to that point, even Sylar's try at normalcy. But since then it's been all over the place. And now they're back to Sylar the (powerless) bad guy?

[Jain Zar]

^^^ Its like I said, just like comics.  Except its free on TV as opposed to 3-4 bucks for a 22 page pamphlet.  

Which is Heroes' biggest strength AND its greatest weakness.  (And possibly part of the rumors that Jeph Loeb is getting the boot because even the clueless network fucks realize some things in comics ARE FUCKING DUMB and part of the reason people are dropping it like a bad habit.  Its why many people don't read comics in the first place.  Or read them and left.  Or are on the fence like I am.  Or go over to Manga.)

Outside of the costumes and lack of FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT it is very much like modern DC and Marvel comics.

And while I have not seen Monday's episode, its not annoying me or anything, but I won't be buying it on DVD either.  But I have never liked Heroes enough to want to buy it outside of through much of Season 1 before the ending.

However if we compare it to other shows staying or going, I would much rather Terminator the MILF Chronicles live and Heroes die.  It took a dumb idea and made it really fucking good while Heroes took a good idea and then ignored it outside of some really good moments and a pretty solid cast.

(Which is again like real comics.  Marvel and DC have some amazingly great characters ruined by stupid ass stories.  Or for another comparison, its like Pro Wrestling levels of dumb with OOC heel turns and endless storylines that move slowly if at all.  Which kind of explains why so many comics fans are also huge wrestling fans really.)

[voodoolily]

I love how all you assholes complain every week, all "ruined, ruined! it's dead to me, dead! deus ex machina (wtf does that even mean, anyway)!", and yet you keep watching. Even if it's just to bitch about it. Which may actually be worse, fucking trolls.

(Now's when you guys all get bent outta shape and reiterate ad nauseum why it sucks and why it's ruined, dead to you, etc.)

[Samprimary]

naw I quit watchin. I was p. much the last in my group of friends.

[gimpyone]

I'd show Daphene how to use those crutches. 

[Jeff Kelly]

People complain because it was once a great show with a lot of potential and is now maneuvering into trainwreck and 'soon to be cancelled' territory and they want it to be great again.

Also Deus Ex machina is just extremely lazy writing.

[Jeff Kelly]

NBC announced its January schedule. Heroes is not in it. Will return "at some later date". Same with Chuck.

[schild]

SAME WITH CHUCK? WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAT

[Jeff Kelly]

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