Bat Country: Order or Destruction?

[tazelbain]

Please if you don't want to join Bat Country in WAR or aren't even going to play WAR, use option 3.

[Rasix]

So, we're going to try this again.  I expect awesome results this time!

[Mrbloodworth]

Its a PvP game....

[tazelbain]

Well, I don't see the harm in trying.  It's either you guys or the mouth-breathing masses.

[Nebu]

I will only play if Rasix and Hat agree to carry me on their backs again. 

[trias_e]

Myself and 2-3 friends are going to be playing order somewhere.  If bat country decides to play order, we would definitely be up for joining you guys.

[MuffinMan]

Haven't given it much thought on which side I would play and there's no apathy choice. So much pressure for a fence sitter, I need a nap.

[Kail]

Voting Order, because I expect that way it'll be a target rich environment.  I didn't play DAoC or anything, and I'm not in the beta, though, so I'm a bit fuzzy on what the impact of being on the smaller faction would entail.  Though if there's anything done to try to compensate for population imbalance, I suspect it would be better to be on the underrepresented side.

Plus, I'm hearing discouraging things about Squig Herders and Shamans, which are the main Destruction classes which appeal to me.

But, whichever is fine with me, really.

[Fraeg]

squig herders have issues, my 2cp is that shamans especially at higher lvls are 

my favorite class to play so far has been the squig herder, but it got to the point that i  needed to wear Depends due to my loose sphincter from all the anal rape i received in pvp on him.

[murdoc]

I have two friends that will be rolling Shamans at release even though they are playing them as mains in beta. They love their Shamans.

[schild]

Since I get to start at level 1, as long as I can get my collector's box (DAMN YOU GAMESTOP!) I will be playing.

[K9]

Since I get to start at level 1

 

[schild]

Since I get to start at level 1

 

Ignore me. It's not interesting.

[Rasix]

I will only play if Rasix and Hat agree to carry me on their backs again. 

You think I'd remember this. 

Anyhow, I'm about 50/50 for playing right now.  I'd vote destro just because it'd take two people I know playing order to get over there.  Good elves and humans.   

[Nebu]

You think I'd remember this. 

It was Righ, not you.  You "R" name people all look the same to me anyway. 

[amiable]

Do you all think Order will be underpopulated?  I remember the WoW beta was similar, with all the beta testers playing horde but when live came everyone rolled alliance...  I would prefer to play on the underdog side.

[schild]

Do you all think Order will be underpopulated?  I remember the WoW beta was similar, with all the beta testers playing horde but when live came everyone rolled alliance...  I would prefer to play on the underdog side.

This. I also prefer to play a gimp class.

[Rasix]

Horseshit. 

[Lt.Dan]

So, we're going to try this again.  I expect awesome results this time!

It's fitting since it is the definition of insanity: repeating the same action and expecting a different outcome.

[Lantyssa]

Can I vote to skew the results even if I'm not gonna play?

[tazelbain]

Then you have no interest in Bat Country.  You are on the internet; you have to tell the truth.

[Nebu]

You are on the internet; you have to tell the truth.

... and never be wrong.

[Lantyssa]

Then you have no interest in Bat Country.  You are on the internet; you have to tell the truth.

It doesn't say Bat Country in which game...

I'm on the internet.  I have to skew the truth to validate my point and mock my enemies.

[trias_e]

Do you all think Order will be underpopulated?  I remember the WoW beta was similar, with all the beta testers playing horde but when live came everyone rolled alliance...  I would prefer to play on the underdog side.

Certainly Order is clearly outnumbered in the beta and in large forum polls I've seen.  I think this will continue until release.  WAR is clearly a PvP/RvR focused game, and destruction will likely attract more of that crowd.  The alliance/horde discrepency in WoW has alot to do with most PvE carebears playing alliance. That said, if Order is overpopulated on whatever serve I'm on when I start playing, I will switch sides early on.  I refuse to play on Albion again.

[Fordel]

The alliance/horde imbalance has everything to do with Elves, Paladins and 'ugly'.


All the 'hardcore' people will roll up on the same server (which will be declared the only server that matters) and be destruction. Every other server will be filled to the brim with Warrior Priests and Witch Hunters. The only hope for balance is the Slutty Elves on the Destruction side, but those could turn away nearly as many as they bring in.


If there is a Paladin, or Paladin Like class, people WILL roll it up, by the Truck Load. It's virtually MMO Law.
If there are Elves, especially Pretty Elves, people WILL roll those up by bushel as well.
If one side is 'rough' or 'ugly' or 'uncivilized' people WILL shun it, in favor of either of the above.


Who knows, maybe THIS time it'll be different... but my money is on Order = Alliance = Albion

[Venkman]

Order. Solely for Bright Wizards. So I can bitch loud when they get the nerf they've needed for months. 

[Trippy]

If there is a Paladin, or Paladin Like class, people WILL roll it up, by the Truck Load. It's virtually MMO Law.

Both sides have a Paladin-like class.

If there are Elves, especially Pretty Elves, people WILL roll those up by bushel as well.

Both sides have Elves and the "ugly" side has half-nekkid Elves.

If one side is 'rough' or 'ugly' or 'uncivilized' people WILL shun it, in favor of either of the above.

Did I mention the ugly side has half-nekkid elves?

[rattran]

Having played through both sides to ~30 in a couple classes, Destro is more finished, and more fun. I'm not decided if I'll play, I got a preorder ($0.99 at Target!) so I don't need to decide yet. But Zealot/Shaman are nifty, and as has been pointed out in another thread, useful for fucking with order 'tards.

Plus, dwarves are even more gay than elves.

[Fordel]

What is the Paladin Like class on the Destruction side? All I see are Mutants, Orcs and Slutty Elves.

[stu]

Disciple of Khaine?

[Trippy]

Yes.

[Fordel]

That isn't Paladin like.

[Trippy]

That isn't Paladin like.

DoK is exactly like a Warrior Priest. So if you consider a Warrior Priest "Paladin-like" then DoK is one too.

[Fordel]

How they actually PLAY is irrelevant. Just how they appear/feel.

Shining Warrior in Armor?
Smiting the Wicked?
Defending the Weak?
General Anti Undead/Demon shenanigans?



People play Paladins or the nearest Paladin class in spite of mechanics, not because of them. They're attracted to :

"Where is your faith on this dark day? Chaos rides against you – will you let these beasts destroy your hearths and homes, or will you trust in Sigmar and fight? Forward men, and drive back this Chaos rabble! For the Empire! For Sigmar!" 


The Myth and the Ideal.

[Trippy]

How they actually PLAY is irrelevant. Just how they appear/feel.

Shining Warrior in Armor?
Smiting the Wicked?
Defending the Weak?
General Anti Undead/Demon shenanigans?



People play Paladins or the nearest Paladin class in spite of mechanics, not because of them. They're attracted to :

"Where is your faith on this dark day? Chaos rides against you – will you let these beasts destroy your hearths and homes, or will you trust in Sigmar and fight? Forward men, and drive back this Chaos rabble! For the Empire! For Sigmar!" 


The Myth and the Ideal.

Smiting the wicked also means smiting your own people in the Warhammer universe (think Witch Hunter). I.e. the concept of "lawful good" doesn't really apply in the WH world. At best you have people that are "lawful neutral". E.g. the Bretonnians aka your "knights in shining armor" use their slaves as cannon fodder. That's hardly "Paladin-like" behavior.