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Reply #1330 on: January 07, 2010, 11:22:20 PM

OK gotcha. So how about something like this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-001-AS&groupid=701&catid=11&subcat=

Says "Real-time DDL and DTS Connect encoders for amazing gaming and surround sounds over your Home Theater System". They seem to make a lot of noise about still giving EAX/surround with VIsta. Am I understand that right?

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Reply #1331 on: January 08, 2010, 06:43:19 AM

I dunno, that whole bit confuses the heck out of me. Not sure where everything stands with EAX and OpenAL and ALchemy, I skipped Vista and thus far things seem to be working on 7 but I'm mostly playing newer games. If anyone has the skinny on the whole situation as it pertains to Win7, a primer would be welcome :)

Hardware encoding is really nice, though. It lacks optical out, but does have coax SPDIF, so that should preserve the HDCP chain (I guess if the soundcard has the magical blessing, who the fuck knows with content nazis).

I guess you could always give it a whirl and return it if you don't like it. I had to do that twice trying to get my setup running through my receiver after my soundstorm chip died.
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Reply #1332 on: January 08, 2010, 09:19:11 AM

That sounds like a good plan. That retailer are pretty good about that kind of thing - I'm in the process of RMA'ing a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse set with them right now because the bluetooth only worked and <1m  swamp poop

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Reply #1333 on: January 08, 2010, 10:03:50 AM

I've been much happier with RF, but even that sucks the bed for consistent connection. I end up with the receiver on the coffee table for the 5% of the time it wants to be shabby with the connection distance. Yet my 360 controller will work great from the kitchen.
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Reply #1334 on: January 08, 2010, 11:09:18 AM

I picked up the Xonar D2X last week. The win7 drivers WORK! No flaky left rear speaker, optical and coax work, and DD outputs DD, not murky upmixed stereo. And my microphone stays as a microphone, not reverting every few days to line-in or 'disabled' I did get a LotRO crash when running with eax checked, but it did that with the xfi too. It was odd to have to hook power into a sound card, but whatever.

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Reply #1335 on: January 08, 2010, 11:28:23 AM

Wait wait, the Xonar's Win7 drivers aren't crap?

Oh noes. Might have to get. How is everything else with it?
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Reply #1336 on: January 08, 2010, 11:38:51 AM

Fine, so far.
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Reply #1337 on: January 11, 2010, 08:50:36 AM

Yeah, so that question again. My GPU fried, and I'm looking for the next one.

I had a 512 MB 4870. I was pretty happy with it, but it was incredibly loud - felt like I was in an airplane hanger.

What are peoples' recommendations for a $200ish graphics card that, well, doesn't sound like you're in an airplane hanger?

Thanks in advance...
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Reply #1338 on: January 11, 2010, 09:57:36 AM

That 4870 is indeed like a hairdryer, especially when attempting to run Sims 3.  I'm interesting in posing the same question but with a leaning toward my Old Pal Nvidia.

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Reply #1339 on: January 11, 2010, 10:44:16 AM

« Last Edit: January 11, 2010, 10:46:58 AM by Engels »

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Reply #1340 on: January 11, 2010, 11:56:22 AM

I bought this guy, just last week based on reviews and Toms Hardware's best buys for Dec 09.

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $175

Much quieter than my (failing) EVGA Nvidia card.

Edit: haha, see Engels' post.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2010, 11:58:08 AM by Viin »

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Reply #1341 on: January 11, 2010, 12:29:59 PM

ONETWENTYEIGHTBIT
 why so serious?
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Reply #1342 on: January 11, 2010, 12:30:49 PM

Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #1343 on: January 11, 2010, 01:10:53 PM

 Raspberry
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Reply #1344 on: January 11, 2010, 07:32:33 PM

Dude that's twice as good as 64 bit.  You are jealous.

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Reply #1345 on: January 12, 2010, 09:15:31 PM

So reviews are saying it's similar performance to the 4870, but quiet. We may have a winner.

Viin, how are you finding performance?
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Reply #1346 on: January 13, 2010, 07:27:48 AM

Briefly returning to the soundcard issue from ealier, I did end up getting the Asus Xonar D2X.

Got it installed and after some tweaking got it working mostly OK. Great sound from it and very good surround (in Win 7 64) in games, although I have had to play with the levels of my 5.1 speakers a bit to get it sounding just right.

One small problem though, whenever I start a new sound source I get a very short but quite loud burst of what sounds like white noise, a kind of pop or brief scratch or single crackle. Once something is initialised and making sound it's fine, no repeat of it, but starting up or stopping anything that outputs sound gets the nasty noise.

Anyone got any ideas what could cause that, if it's serious and if so how I can make it stop?

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Reply #1347 on: January 13, 2010, 07:47:29 AM

That shit is exactly why I dropped the auzentech. In several games it would suddenly decide to blast me with some white noise, about a second long and full volume. Seemed to happen totally at random, totally unacceptable. I hope you can find a fix for it, I wasn't able to.
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Reply #1348 on: January 13, 2010, 12:00:20 PM

It's not doing it on my system (win7 x64), perhaps something else is stepping on it? Old drivers all removed and such? On-board sound disabled, etc

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Reply #1349 on: January 13, 2010, 05:48:49 PM

So reviews are saying it's similar performance to the 4870, but quiet. We may have a winner.

Viin, how are you finding performance?

Working well, running in World in Conflict with 8x AA and High settings without a stutter at 1680x1050. Probably could do Very High with small stutters during crazy times, but saw no need. Haven't run a 3d Mark or anything yet though.

i can do that if you wanna see it.

Edit: in conflict, not of conflict
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Reply #1350 on: January 13, 2010, 06:00:24 PM

Teh awesome. Thanks Viin. No need to do a 3dmark - there's loads of benchmarks all over the web.
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Reply #1351 on: January 13, 2010, 11:31:41 PM

It's not doing it on my system (win7 x64), perhaps something else is stepping on it? Old drivers all removed and such? On-board sound disabled, etc

Yeah to both. I suspect it's the home theatre system at fault since it used to do it on the PS3 with some games, notable Fallout3. I'll have a play with moar settings, of which there are a lot of a lot.

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Reply #1352 on: January 14, 2010, 12:10:57 PM

Yeah, I messed about trying optical, coax, and regular speaker out, and couldn't reproduce it. Good luck tracking it down.
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Reply #1353 on: January 21, 2010, 08:42:18 AM

Anyone else really annoyed at the 'new' Windows 7 & Vista Advanced Firewall functionality, or lack thereof? Services like Remote Desktop and File and Printer Sharing are limted to local subnet range by default, it seems. This would be fine if it were easily editable, but whereas in XP its simply a matter of a 3 button choice 3 clicks away, in Windows 7 you have to sort through 3 different firewall profiles (domain, private & public), select each and every element of a particular service and then tab to one of 6 options to open the local subnet.

Although on the one hand I appreciate the probabe intent of giving the IT person greater control and detail over firewall configuration, couldn't they have make it just a wee tad simpler to edit? Its as if they think that the network environment they use in some ghastly Redmond office park is the way it works in the entire rest of the civilized world. And I'm only 30 miles away.

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Reply #1354 on: January 21, 2010, 08:49:45 AM

I have not had to do this and therefore am not annoyed, but I was wondering if there was some script or just a command-set you could run to do this without all the drilldown?

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Reply #1355 on: January 21, 2010, 09:41:03 AM

Can't you edit the settings for 'Remote Desktop' and change it for all 3 at once? (I haven't looked at this in awhile).

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Reply #1356 on: January 21, 2010, 08:33:37 PM

Not as far as I know, Viin. You can't select the whole batch and right-click properties, and the limitation to a specific scope isn't allowed through the 'vanilla' Windows Firewall interface. You have to to to Control Panel> Administrative Tools> Windows with Advanced Pain In the Neck to edit scope and other restrictions, and there it seems to be a port by port breakdown. So, for example, the 6 ports or so assigned to File and Printer Sharing have to each be individually fiddled with if you want to set it for, say, 3 subnets rather than just Local Subnet (the default).

Yegolev, there are pretty nice commandline options using the netsh tool. It has a very very deep configuration tree, and that's great for, say, automated batch settings to multiple computers at once, but its not so practical if you just need to quickly modify something on a single machine.

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Reply #1357 on: January 21, 2010, 10:17:49 PM

I make no apologies for my love of the command-line. Ohhhhh, I see.  However I agree that it depends on how much typing is involved and whether it is worth your time to write something which would take a few args and do what you want quickly.  Settings per port?  Jeez.  You poor bastard. why so serious?

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Reply #1358 on: January 24, 2010, 10:35:25 AM

So, my home machine keeps restarting during power up.  When I go to turn it on there are no error beeps, the lights on the front are dead but the fans spin up then powere cuts out and 10 seconds later the fans spin up, basically stuck in an endless power up/reset loop. 

Power supply (6 year old pcpower&cooling) or mothereboard (1 year old asus p5q se plus)?

I have already reseated the power & vid card then blown everything out.

Headed to fry's I guess.
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Reply #1359 on: January 24, 2010, 10:40:22 AM

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the lights on the front are dead

Is this the only indicator that something's wrong? Other than the reboot, of course.

If so, do you have another machine to test the PSU on? Or another PSU to test the motherboard on?

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Reply #1360 on: January 24, 2010, 11:06:21 AM

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the lights on the front are dead

Is this the only indicator that something's wrong? Other than the reboot, of course.

If so, do you have another machine to test the PSU on? Or another PSU to test the motherboard on?
No spare parts, I figured I would just buy a psu and if that isn't it then return it.  Is there a decent modular psu (over 500 watts) for under $100 that isn't too loud?

Edit: how about coolmax? Looking at a 700 Watt 4 rail modular for $65.

Edit2: or an antec 650 truepower for $80.
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Reply #1361 on: January 24, 2010, 11:35:27 AM

I've had issues with a few Antec supplies in the last couple years. I'm using a Corsair (non-modular) in my machine, and have been using Thermaltake modulars and normal in machines for other people.

Both are a bit over $100, and more voltage than you specified, but are the two I've got experience with. No problems so far, but I've only built about a dozen machines with them over two years, so dunno the long-term yet.
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Reply #1362 on: January 24, 2010, 11:43:52 AM

I've had issues with a few Antec supplies in the last couple years. I'm using a Corsair (non-modular) in my machine, and have been using Thermaltake modulars and normal in machines for other people.

Both are a bit over $100, and more voltage than you specified, but are the two I've got experience with. No problems so far, but I've only built about a dozen machines with them over two years, so dunno the long-term yet.

Went with the antec, I've heard about the reliability issues before but they seem to have their share of fanbois.  I was pretty sold on the PC power & cooling but a $200 psu should last more than 6 years.  Who knows it may still be good, but if it ends up being my mobo not sure I would trust the psu anymore.
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Reply #1363 on: January 24, 2010, 11:50:02 AM

I pretty much consider 5 years of service to be a good run when it comes to computer things. If they last longer, great, but I don't rely on anything that old.

And I used to use antec psus, just got 2 doas (both truepower), and several that stopped working after a few months. None of the 3 NeoPower units lasted a full year. So I've stopped using Antec entirely.
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Reply #1364 on: January 24, 2010, 01:06:04 PM

Well, it doesn't appear to be the psu, same thing is happening with the antec.  I'm going to pull everything (including CPU) then reseat it all.  If that doesn't work I guess I'll be looking for a new mobo, anyone have suggestions for a good core2 duo board with onboard sound?

Or maybe I should call Asus the mobo is. Only 13 months old.
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