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Lantyssa
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Reply #490 on: February 17, 2009, 08:35:17 PM

nTune showed the fan set to cool at 33% speed when running a 3D application and being 46°C with basic windows tasks.  Seems a little high for essentially idle.  Cranking it up to max fan speed for 3D kept it at 54°C while playing and I didn't have any graphics glitches at all.

Given all that I'm guessing it is a heat issue and I'll just need to make sure everything is clean and maybe reapply some thermal paste.  Thanks for the help.

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Reply #491 on: February 17, 2009, 08:45:22 PM

nTune showed the fan set to cool at 33% speed when running a 3D application and being 46°C with basic windows tasks.  Seems a little high for essentially idle.  Cranking it up to max fan speed for 3D kept it at 54°C while playing and I didn't have any graphics glitches at all.

Given all that I'm guessing it is a heat issue and I'll just need to make sure everything is clean and maybe reapply some thermal paste.  Thanks for the help.
GPUs run very hot, even when not doing 3D. My 7800 GT is running at 46C right now just in windows and I can't remember now what the shutdown temp used to be on my GPU (stupid redesigned NVIDIA control panel) but it was above 100C (think maybe 115C?).
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Reply #492 on: February 17, 2009, 09:41:10 PM

46 is very respectable for the 8800 chip. That one's pretty hot by nature. Keeping it at 54C while under stress is nothing short of a miracle, really.

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Reply #493 on: February 18, 2009, 10:59:47 AM

That's why I chose that card.  But since I've had to change my fan settings (unless multiple upgrades and downgrades made a bad tweak) when it used to work without problem, it had me worried.

I wonder if I can play Mass Effect without it crashing now.  Guess that's a test for this evening.

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Reply #494 on: February 18, 2009, 12:22:04 PM

My 8800gtx will crash with crysis at max (hacked for "dx10" effects in xp) at 1280x720. I think it runs around high 80s or so. Mid70s is normal, but it runs fine in most apps (except for mumbly mumbly EQ2 cities mumbly texture crash). I've thought about getting another heat-sink, but I just don't play Crysis instead. I do have rivatuner set the fans to 100% on it, because I can barely notice the difference in sound.

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Reply #495 on: February 18, 2009, 06:56:13 PM

You might want to consider just cleaning whatever dust you may have sitting in you PC. I was getting consistent EQ2 client crashes recently. Opened up my case, and cleaned out the HSFs of my video card and CPU, and cleaned out my case fans.

Runs quieter and flawlessly....well, as flawless as I can get out of a 6+ year old PC.

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Reply #496 on: February 19, 2009, 08:54:18 AM

No, it's always done that in a couple zones with max graphics. I can understand Neriak, Kelethin and Gorowyn, the head-scratcher is Pillar of Flames. Doesn't bug me, I've got a good profile saved for those zones, takes about 2 seconds to swap. I do dust my pc and it has filters at every ingress.
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Reply #497 on: February 19, 2009, 11:22:53 AM

Quick and stupid question.  What is the other dimension of 1080p on a TV?  I am about to connect my wife's new computer to the 52" LCD. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #498 on: February 19, 2009, 11:59:32 AM

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Reply #499 on: February 19, 2009, 02:18:06 PM

I'm heading over to Japan for work for a week.  I think I can use my laptop safely (transformer brick will handle 100V 60Hz), but can I similarly plug-in other things like a phone?

Basically, would small appliances have built in conversion for 120V->100V and from 60Hz->50Hz (I think that's correct amounts).  Thx.
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Reply #500 on: February 19, 2009, 02:44:16 PM

Check your power cable.  My phone could handle Asian voltages, however I still needed an adapter.

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Reply #501 on: February 19, 2009, 06:49:56 PM

So is there a clear cut "this is the one headset/mic to rule them all" product I can purchase or do I have to read a bunch of reviews?  My current headset's right ear is dead, it's a sennheiser which I've been pretty happy with.
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Reply #502 on: February 20, 2009, 09:02:48 AM

anyone ever hear of "backing" up the original adobe cs4 disks causing the originals to become no good (ie wont read in the dvd drives at work)?
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Reply #503 on: February 20, 2009, 10:59:56 AM

anyone ever hear of "backing" up the original adobe cs4 disks causing the originals to become no good (ie wont read in the dvd drives at work)?
No, but given the fucking rootkit copy protection installed with that stuff it wouldn't surprise me if somehow, someway it actually did fuck something up.

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Reply #504 on: February 20, 2009, 09:58:17 PM

I think it's a coincidental combination of crappy adobe disks+ancient cheap dvd drives at work.  After thinking about it a bit Adobe seems to rely more on authenticating you cs4 session every time you launch the product than it does on protecting the install files.  Laptop was able to read the disk as well as one of the mac's at work, just all the old Dell's had issues.
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Reply #505 on: February 23, 2009, 12:04:12 AM

Ok, I somehow got a virus that un-formatted one of my harddrives, (I'm pretty sure all the data is still all on it...) anyone know the easiest way to get it off/format it with losing all my porn data?

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Reply #506 on: February 23, 2009, 05:50:57 AM

Put your porn disk into a linux machine?  If possible, cp things off, wipe the disk and replace porn.

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Reply #507 on: February 24, 2009, 02:40:04 AM

I just had to install SP2, I guess my drive has a newer standard of NTFS than what plain XP handles.

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Reply #508 on: February 26, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

Looking for a bit of help here.  I've got a Logitech G15 keyboard that recently has been acting up.  The issue is that the keyboard will, at random, turn off (keys go blank as does the LCD) and sit idle for roughly 30 sec.  It will then "reboot" and work for as long as 10 minutes; then repeat the process. 

Windows has quit recognizing it as a G15 and now refers to it as a Compatible HID in device manager. 

I have uninstalled the old drivers, and reinstaled new drivers from the logitech site (3.0.180 I believe).  No change.  I've tried different USB plugs, that doesn't seem to make a difference either. 

Is a BIOS update an option?

Windows Vista 32 bit
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8800 GT

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Reply #509 on: February 26, 2009, 11:11:41 AM

I just had to install SP2, I guess my drive has a newer standard of NTFS than what plain XP handles.

They are up to SP3 now, hoss.

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Reply #510 on: February 26, 2009, 01:14:44 PM

Mortriden: Those keyboards are not made to last. Mine lasted about 18 months then just died. LCD stopped working first then one day it did pretty much what you're describing. Throw it away, it's fuct. Cheap crap painted up pretty and over-priced tbh.

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Reply #511 on: February 26, 2009, 05:08:56 PM

Good to know its a POS. I was tempted, and considering my current logitech wireless has lasted 4 years, I thought it would be worth it. Sigh, how the mighty have fallen.

I should get back to nature, too.  You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer.  Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached.  Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe

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Reply #512 on: February 26, 2009, 06:06:11 PM

I just had to install SP2, I guess my drive has a newer standard of NTFS than what plain XP handles.

They are up to SP3 now, hoss.

Yeah, but it started working after SP2. I installed SP3 after posting.

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Reply #513 on: February 27, 2009, 03:19:31 AM

Good to know its a POS. I was tempted, and considering my current logitech wireless has lasted 4 years, I thought it would be worth it. Sigh, how the mighty have fallen.

Only thing I'd recommend it for is something like EVE with Ventrillo. Shows you who's talking on vent on the LCD, which is just fucking awesome  awesome, for real

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Reply #514 on: February 27, 2009, 07:34:23 AM

Quick tech question. e6600 on a P5W DH Deluxe mobo. Better to run the RAM at higher speed or lower latency?

800 4-4-4-12

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1066 5-5-5-15
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Reply #515 on: February 28, 2009, 07:30:19 AM

Quick tech question. e6600 on a P5W DH Deluxe mobo. Better to run the RAM at higher speed or lower latency?

1066 5-5-5-15

Is the answer if the memory can handle the speed. Despite the latency, faster clock gives a potential of 200 million more memory operations/second. Those refresh values mean in practice the period between the refresh current is run through the chips and doesn't matter read or writespeeds drastically.
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Reply #516 on: March 01, 2009, 05:50:51 PM

Recommend an audio card.  150 USD max.  Usage will be gaming 80 percent of the time, music 10 percent, and movie/video 10 percent of the time.  Used exclusively with headphones.  Would LIKE to have USB output option if possible.  Vista 64 compatible.

Thanks.
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Reply #517 on: March 01, 2009, 06:25:05 PM

Recommend an audio card.  150 USD max.  Usage will be gaming 80 percent of the time, music 10 percent, and movie/video 10 percent of the time.  Used exclusively with headphones.  Would LIKE to have USB output option if possible.  Vista 64 compatible.

Thanks.
What do you mean by "USB output"?
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Reply #518 on: March 01, 2009, 07:50:59 PM

My headphones have USB thingies that they plug into - that then plug into the computer's USB ports.  Not married to it, but that's now the signal is processed in the Plantronics 777 and how the virtual surround is processed in the 770's (though this is used on my 360 primarily, so it's not a consideration).  In it's own right, they act as their own sound card(s). 

If need be, I can buy a different set of 5.1 surround headphones down the road - and just go with the 'regular' settings.  But I don't think there's a set with 5 seperate plugs for the 5.1 is there?
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Reply #519 on: March 01, 2009, 08:35:52 PM

My headphones have USB thingies that they plug into - that then plug into the computer's USB ports.  Not married to it, but that's now the signal is processed in the Plantronics 777 and how the virtual surround is processed in the 770's (though this is used on my 360 primarily, so it's not a consideration).  In it's own right, they act as their own sound card(s). 

If need be, I can buy a different set of 5.1 surround headphones down the road - and just go with the 'regular' settings.  But I don't think there's a set with 5 seperate plugs for the 5.1 is there?
Windows only allows a single sound output device to be active at a time. You will have to choose between your USB box or the sound card. You can't plug your USB box into a USB port on your computer and then somehow redirect the output of the sound card through it. Nor are there sound cards that have a USB input/output for connecting to such a box. Basically if you want to use a sound card you'll have to unplug your headphones from the USB box and plug in the mini-stereo jacks directly into the sound card bypassing the USB box.
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Reply #520 on: March 01, 2009, 09:48:29 PM

There are also tie-ins on sound cards that allow you to use the front jacks on most computer cases. The 'out' or headphone jack, and the mike jack are fairly common. That still doesn't allow you to use the USB port, but it alleviates the hassel of having to plug in headphones into the back of your box by switching out the speaker jack and plugging in the headphone jack.

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Reply #521 on: March 01, 2009, 09:55:37 PM

My headphones have USB thingies that they plug into - that then plug into the computer's USB ports.  Not married to it, but that's now the signal is processed in the Plantronics 777 and how the virtual surround is processed in the 770's (though this is used on my 360 primarily, so it's not a consideration).  In it's own right, they act as their own sound card(s). 

If need be, I can buy a different set of 5.1 surround headphones down the road - and just go with the 'regular' settings.  But I don't think there's a set with 5 seperate plugs for the 5.1 is there?
Windows only allows a single sound output device to be active at a time. You will have to choose between your USB box or the sound card. You can't plug your USB box into a USB port on your computer and then somehow redirect the output of the sound card through it. Nor are there sound cards that have a USB input/output for connecting to such a box. Basically if you want to use a sound card you'll have to unplug your headphones from the USB box and plug in the mini-stereo jacks directly into the sound card bypassing the USB box.


That's not what I'm looking to do. 

If the card supports 5.1 and has a USB output = awesome.
If the card doesn't have a USB output, but still supports 5.1 = not quite as awesome.  But workable.

Like I said, I'm not married to the USB dongle thing for the headphones.   Would be nice, but not a requirement.

Basically, just want a nice sound card.
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Reply #522 on: March 01, 2009, 09:59:27 PM

I may be out of the loop, but are there even cards with USB jacks at all?

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Reply #523 on: March 02, 2009, 03:01:33 AM

My headphones have USB thingies that they plug into - that then plug into the computer's USB ports.  Not married to it, but that's now the signal is processed in the Plantronics 777 and how the virtual surround is processed in the 770's (though this is used on my 360 primarily, so it's not a consideration).  In it's own right, they act as their own sound card(s). 

If need be, I can buy a different set of 5.1 surround headphones down the road - and just go with the 'regular' settings.  But I don't think there's a set with 5 seperate plugs for the 5.1 is there?
Windows only allows a single sound output device to be active at a time. You will have to choose between your USB box or the sound card. You can't plug your USB box into a USB port on your computer and then somehow redirect the output of the sound card through it. Nor are there sound cards that have a USB input/output for connecting to such a box. Basically if you want to use a sound card you'll have to unplug your headphones from the USB box and plug in the mini-stereo jacks directly into the sound card bypassing the USB box.

That's not what I'm looking to do. 

If the card supports 5.1 and has a USB output = awesome.
Like I said above you can't do that (and that is what you are looking to do since you've said it twice so I'm not sure why you said that you aren't).

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If the card doesn't have a USB output, but still supports 5.1 = not quite as awesome.  But workable.
Most cards these days support 5/6/7.1 output.


I may be out of the loop, but are there even cards with USB jacks at all?
No. And even if they did they wouldn't do what SnakeCharmer is trying to do.
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Reply #524 on: March 02, 2009, 06:30:47 AM

Trippy - I'm not trying to run two different sound sources on the same card or from one card and one of the computers USB outputs or trying to run sound from the sound card to one of the computers/mobo's USB ports. 

Once more....

The headphones connect via a USB dongle thing (or rather, they have that option).  If I can connect to a sound card via the USB thing, awesome.  If not, not so awesome, but still doable.

What I *want* is a sound card that sends the 5.1 (6.1 or 7.1) signal via a USB output ON THE CARD ITSELF - NOT ANOTHER USB PORT ON THE COMPUTER/CASE.  No other ports on the card are going to be used.  Not any of the mini jacks, not the digital output, nothing.  [

b]Just the USB output on the card[/b].
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