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Reply #630 on: August 03, 2015, 09:12:00 AM

Mike Tyson became one of the most popular boxers ever by doing the same thing- beating the fuck out of people as quickly as he could. Not all his fights were short, but there were quite a few of them. Before he got caught a'rapin'.

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Reply #631 on: August 03, 2015, 11:51:24 AM

Mike Tyson became one of the most popular boxers ever by doing the same thing- beating the fuck out of people as quickly as he could. Not all his fights were short, but there were quite a few of them. Before he got caught a'rapin'.

Most of those short fights were before he got into the big time feeding frenzy. When he was winning and retaining Heavyweight titles, only 2 of the 11 fights went 1 round, and he then lost to Buster Douglas in 10 rounds. The first Holyfield fight and loss went 11 rounds. He wasn't unbeatable, but I think it shows more of the competition. As Tyson advanced even though he was very dominating, things got harder and he rose to the occasion.

With Rousey she's already at the top end and there's literally nothing they can throw at her as a woman. Her only option now is to cross the sex barrier and fight men. It's not really the same thing.

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Reply #632 on: August 03, 2015, 12:12:24 PM

The flyweight matches are always more exciting than the heavyweights. Girls are usually super duper fly. (and mean!)

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Reply #633 on: November 15, 2015, 01:30:45 AM

Well, holy shit.  Ronda Rousey just got KTFO'd by Holly Holm, whoever that is.  Probably the biggest upset in MMA history.

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Reply #634 on: November 15, 2015, 01:50:20 AM

Yeah, I'm fairly shocked.  And this will probably sound sexist as hell, but I really dislike seeing a woman ktfo'd like that.  And it was no fluke either, she got her ass handed to her from the opening bell.


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Reply #635 on: November 15, 2015, 07:46:54 AM

I will preface this by saying that I know nothing about MMA or boxing, so I'm basically just repeating what is on the front page of espn.com, but apparently it's a bad idea to get into a boxing match with a boxer when you aren't a boxer.  You tend to get punched in the face a lot.
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Reply #636 on: November 15, 2015, 08:30:20 AM

I am pretty OK with Ronda losing and losing the way she did. The sport seems more level this morning on the women's side. That said, I really did think it would get out of the 1st round, but no way did I think she'd get knocked out.

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Reply #637 on: November 15, 2015, 09:56:49 AM

Well, now I care about this division again. I knew Holly was Ronda's first real threat since Miesha, but wasn't sure she had enough MMA experience to get the job done.

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Reply #638 on: November 15, 2015, 11:29:19 AM

All the things being said about Holly have to be taken with caution. She is really good, and she definitely put up a masterful performance, but let's not forget that she was already a World Boxing champ when she almost lost to Raquel Pennington a year ago in a 100% stand up match. Sure, there's nothing like "almost lost", but she got a split decision and plenty of people didn't agree with that. And Raquel is a good striker but definitely not elite. So, clearly Holm is way ahead of everyone else when it comes to striking in the Women Bantamweight scene, but MMA is more than that and what decided tonight's fight so early is not *just* her skills but also a dumbified version of Ronda that lost her mind before the fight even started, as seen in the weigh-in scrap. Not only Ronda didn't look that healthy, but she clearly couldn't adapt (and no one from her corner told her to), when for the first time ever an opponent didn't crumble under her pressure. Instead, she kept rushing in as a school bully that can't believe McFly hasn't knocked himself out yet. Ronda was very mentally weak last night, and for that I am sure a million reasons will come up in the next few weeks (Her coach possibly going to jail, her mom publicly hating on him, her romantic life being under scrutiny for having admitted to a relationship with an alleged domestic abuser, etc..).

Anyway, yeah now I care about the division again, too. I like Ronda for lots of reasons, but I dislike her for another good number. I am glad that there are going to be meaningful fights again in this division, but I am sorry because I feel that she was on the verge of a nervous breakdown before the fight and now she will probably lose herself for good. I wouldn't be surprised if she retired after this, like Gina Carano did after losing to Cyborg. Clearly she is a TERRIBLE loser and I am not sure she can face the idea of that ridicule happening to her again. Chances are she will have nightmares about this fight (and al the iconic pictures and .gifs from it) for the rest of her life.

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Reply #639 on: November 15, 2015, 04:30:52 PM

Maybe karma for acting like a complete douchebag? Not even tapping fists before the bout. Suck it Rousey.

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Reply #640 on: November 15, 2015, 07:43:26 PM

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Reply #641 on: November 16, 2015, 11:45:07 AM

I am happiest about the way this has silenced idiots who were suggesting Rousey needed to fight men for there to be any competition.

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Reply #642 on: December 12, 2015, 11:36:21 PM

Heh. 13 seconds.

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Reply #643 on: December 13, 2015, 12:34:21 AM

Heh. 13 seconds.

I'd hate to be someone who paid $60 for that Vine video.

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Reply #644 on: December 13, 2015, 05:00:41 AM

While exciting, I am disappointed that it ended so soon.  I don't think it gives a fair accounting of how these guys match up.  Or maybe it did, but I would have rather seen it over a couple of rounds.

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Reply #645 on: December 16, 2015, 01:13:16 PM

Same can be said of when Rousey beat Cat Zingano.  Just the nature of the sport.

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Reply #646 on: December 16, 2015, 11:58:29 PM

Maybe.  I think with Rousey vs Zingano, it was more of a question of just how long it was going to take Rousey to rip Cat's arm off.  With Aldo vs McGregor, there was plenty of reason to be in doubt of who might even win the fight.

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Reply #647 on: March 05, 2016, 11:59:31 PM

So Connor got choked the fuck out. He needs to go watch fucking Rocky IV to see what showboating leads to.

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Reply #648 on: March 06, 2016, 03:14:30 PM

He was fighting two weight classes above his own against an opponent he hadn't trained for. It really shouldn't hurt his career much because he was never going to be 170 champ; he's too small.

The bigger upset was Holly losing to Miesha; now we'll have to see Miesha v Ronda again again again before we get the Holly v Ronda rematch.

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Reply #649 on: March 08, 2016, 10:32:47 AM

The jumping up weight divisions is a lame excuse, that guy had some heart to stay in the fight. McGregor is fairly mediocre on the mat, but great fighter on his feet. Diaz had a gameplan and it worked.

I find McGregor crude, disrespectful and a loudmouth, not a good representative of my country. I'm glad someone sorted him out, Nate Diaz might not be the brightest tool but at least he carries himself with some dignity.

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Reply #650 on: March 08, 2016, 11:53:53 PM

Nate Diaz carries himself with dignity? Okay.  I mean, he amuses the hell out of me, but I think that is the last word I would have associated with him.

And for the permanent record:  Man oh man do I love me some Miesha Tate.  I loved how that ended, and good for her.  Too bad that this will probably only end up with her getting her arm torn off by Rousey later in the year.

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Reply #651 on: March 09, 2016, 01:24:13 AM

I think its ass backwards that Tate has to fight Rousey instead of fighting the winner of Rousey vs Holms. Injuries and all its still not right for Rousey to take a year hiatus only to walk right into a title fight.

McGregor keeping his hands up would have won the fight. That 1-2 to the face unguarded had him stumbling like a frat boy after 9 coronas. I highly doubt he was all there, if not just straight up losing consciousness with his body just reacting to sight and sounds. Even his attempted take down was robotic and if Diaz wasn't afraid of McGregor's heavy hands this would have been a really bloody finish cause he was barely reacting to Diaz jabs after that point.

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Reply #652 on: March 09, 2016, 03:39:12 AM

Nate Diaz carries himself with dignity? Okay.  I mean, he amuses the hell out of me, but I think that is the last word I would have associated with him.

Yeh, I admit I have a limited view of him. Just judging on the interviews I saw between them, Diaz came across as the one who wanted to just get in the ring and not spend his whole time shit talking his opponent and bigging up how much money he brings per fight, so in that sense I found he carried himself well.

McGregor keeping his hands up would have won the fight. That 1-2 to the face unguarded had him stumbling like a frat boy after 9 coronas...

I guess his cockiness got the better of him.
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Reply #653 on: March 09, 2016, 06:12:00 AM

No doubt Nate comes to fight.  But you can actually search and find pictures of him flipping the double bird to his opponent DURING actual fighting action.  Or in full celebration mode WHILE choking out his opponent via triangle.  I'm not judging, I find it hilarious.  And then you get things like this in the post fight interview:

Joe Rogan:  "Nate, a lot of people are surprised about XYZ in this fight, did anything suprise you about blah blah blah?"
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Reply #654 on: March 09, 2016, 06:43:58 AM

Nate Diaz certainly talks as much shit as Conor; the worst thing about this fight is that we missed the months of glorious trash talk we would have gotten if this was a scheduled event instead of a last minute replacement.

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Reply #655 on: March 09, 2016, 07:59:20 AM

Hah ok thanks for enlightening me, not sure whether my respect for him has gone up or down based on those insights.

The trashtalking that I did see was Jerry Springer guest level of witty repartee, perhaps the short build up actually did us a favour.

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Reply #656 on: December 31, 2016, 01:48:40 AM

Nice of Rousey to present her face for pummeling.

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Reply #657 on: December 31, 2016, 10:52:48 PM

I wish sports betting was legal (or at least easier to do). I would have loaded up on Nunes. She is a goddamned beast.

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Reply #658 on: January 01, 2017, 07:18:00 AM

It's not? They advertise the hell out of Vegas odds on sherdog.com (MMA news site) so I assumed it was.

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