Dragon Age

[Sjofn]

There's quite a few requests on the official forums to make the main character's sister potential love interest. Could be right up the alley of that crowd.

The hell is wrong with people. 

[Zetor]

You haven't played any of the Imoen mods for BG2, have you 

[Lakov_Sanite]

You haven't played any of the Imoen mods for BG2, have you 

What's sad? The mod for that romance was probably better than any of the original romance plots in the game.

[jakonovski]

The adventures of Cletus Cousland.

[Koyasha]

The Imoen romance I played was great, and I really liked the way it handled the 'sister' thing.  I think there's another one that's far less well done.

Besides, as far as romancing your sister goes, see...uhh...history.  Not particularly uncommon in some circles.

[tmp]

I suppose it becomes easier for one to rationalize it to themselves when said sister looks like this



and people thought light armour in DAO was bad...

[Ingmar]

Eh her ass isn't hanging out, so there's that.

[tmp]

Not like the behind would need any protection. As it is, that chest generates enough gravity to divert the blows aimed elsewhere.

[Sjofn]

How did I know "ladies get their own skeleton now! Yay!" would somehow translate into a backbreaking rack.

Oh well, at least I like her outfit! 

[Furiously]

I just want to know why bioware can't do a better job with the body/head joining point and make everyone have a necklace or something.

[tmp]

They seem to use a trick to keep the size of most models smaller -- vertex coordinates are stored as half-floats rather than full precision floats, except for the head parts. That difference in precision can translate to ~half milimeter of difference in position and that in turn can cause visible gap, especially when camera is close like during the conversations. On the other hand they could've just adjusted edge of neck to match so in the end, not sure.

Think the more important question anyway is, do the ladies get jiggle bone in their custom new skeleton, like the desire demon had

[jakonovski]

Sheesh, and then the games industry wonders why nobody takes games seriously.

[Merusk]

Man, fuck the stone prisoner.  I still can't get it to load into my saves. 

[eldaec]

Buckle on that armour has been drawn the wrong way around, should be pointing up.

[Lantyssa]

You notice that but not your smoking hot sister?  Are you broken?

[Sir T]

Buckle on that armour has been drawn the wrong way around, should be pointing up.

Should be much tighter too. Tly way you can have a buckle like that would be to have no pressure on the strap at all.

UNLESS they deliberately turned it around like that  which means they don't have a clue how buckles really work.

And by the way I find the way women are portrayed in must games to be completely stupid and frankly embarrassing. If men can have good looking and practical armor then women should have the same. I guess I'm getting older but some woman having chainmail strapped to her belly and having her tits flop out is nor good armour and would be bloody uncomfortable to wear. When I'm gaming IU want to game, not see some stupid guys porn fantasy.

[Malakili]

When I'm gaming IU want to game, not see some stupid guys porn fantasy.

You sir, are not among the majority anymore.   Frankly I just tend to ignore it the best I can in games where I can, and in the games where its just too egregious to ignore, I don't buy them (Bayonetta)

[Hawkbit]

This all has ties back to blue alien sex. 

[Sir T]

Yeah most of the time I just ignore it with little more than rolling eyes, but I'm not gonna stare at a pic and go "oooh look at her artificial pixels" and I'm not gonna pretend I do either for manlyness.

I find nothing hot about that picture btw. It just looks silly.

This all has ties back to blue alien sex. 

Actually I loved that conversation in ME2 where these 3 drunks slowly start realizing that the Asari look different to all of them and that the Asari are casting a sly illusion to look attractive to different species. 

[Malakili]

Yeah most of the time I just ignore it with little more than rolling eyes, but I'm not gonna stare at a pic and go "oooh look at her artificial pixels" and I'm not gonna pretend I do either for manlyness.

I find nothing hot about that picture btw. It just looks silly.

Fact of the matter is, the "ideal" women in the media are all plastic surgery and airbrushing.  Most of the images of women you see on a daily basis are marginally more real than something purely digital like this.  I guess my point is that it just seems fairly standard to me, and while I agree with you in principle, I don't think its a problem that is specific to video games.


However, to keep this post on topic, I am going say that with regards to Dragon Age, I wish they would just sell the game with gameplay, rather than chainmail bikinis.

[Sjofn]

While I find Dragon Age's marketing ... troublesome, to say the least, let's not get all wacky and accuse them of chainmail bikinis until we actually, like, see chainmail bikinis. As ridiculous as her boobs are, and mysterious in purpose that chainmail is, she is far better than much of what the fantasy genre likes to insist is "armor."

Plus she's a mage, they wear stupid shit all the time.


EDIT: God, I think this might be the first time I've ever said "it's not THAT bad" about female armor.

[Koyasha]

I, umm...don't know who thinks that outfit would be considered attractive at all.  It looks ridiculous as well as looking frumpy and peasant-ish.  It's like a frumpy peasant woman took a strip of chainmail and attached it like an apron or something.  Maybe she has vorpal kitchen knives and was afraid of cutting herself.  At the same time I don't see any silly levels of skin showing, either.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I can't get the idea of a chainmail apron out of my mind now.

[tmp]

I, umm...don't know who thinks that outfit would be considered attractive at all.  It looks ridiculous as well as looking frumpy and peasant-ish.  It's like a frumpy peasant woman took a strip of chainmail and attached it like an apron or something.  Maybe she has vorpal kitchen knives and was afraid of cutting herself.  At the same time I don't see any silly levels of skin showing, either.

The frumpy peasant thing may actually make sense, if i'm not mistaken that part of the game happens early after escape from the sacking of Lothering, and both Hawkes are well, peasants.

on the subject of silly armour, funny thing is the ladies in DA may actually look better wearing the 'male' variants than the ones made specifically to show their bits off. Or maybe i'm just broken, too 

[eldaec]

Also the background is terrible - looks like it was drawn for an N64 or something.

[Pezzle]

Hurray for buckles and belts that seem to serve no purpose other than making the characters look dumb!

[Fordel]

You give the N64 too much credit.

[Malakili]

Hurray for buckles and belts that seem to serve no purpose other than making the characters look dumb!

Have you missed the trend of people wearing these things in real life?  Seriously I see women wearing them all the time and it pisses me off.   Its like, what the hell, if you're going to wear a belt, wear a belt.

[tmp]

Also the background is terrible - looks like it was drawn for an N64 or something.

Supposedly that's part of their new graphics style -- less clutter in environments, more focus on the characters. Also supposedly, they're going to look better in the final version.

I rather like that background actually, if just because it has less of the silly WoW-like vertical exaggeration.

Regarding belts. Srsly, the game had a witch wearing skirt made of them. What did you expect

(at least that's the only thing they picked from fashion sense of Final Fantasy X. could've been worse. Though DA2 seems to be getting there now)

[Lantyssa]

I don't mind the outfit that much.  At least there is mail over the abdomen, which is a squishy area.  Most chainmail bikinis don't even manage that much.  And in the first game the heavy armor provided full coverage for women.

Sure they could do better, but they aren't the worst offenders by any means.

[ghost]

Maybe they should hire the guys from Lovechess. 

[UnSub]

Hurray for buckles and belts that seem to serve no purpose other than making the characters look dumb!

Have you missed the trend of people wearing these things in real life?  Seriously I see women wearing them all the time and it pisses me off.   Its like, what the hell, if you're going to wear a belt, wear a belt.

There's a difference between fashion and armour though. 

[Tarami]

To be fair, his chest matches hers.

[Lum]

I'm going to just toss this heresy out: the console version of DA is more fun for me than the PC version.

[Morfiend]

I'm going to just toss this heresy out: the console version of DA is more fun for me than the PC version.