Dragon Age

[BitWarrior]

Any news on the conversion of this game to the PS3? Obviously situations like Ghost Busters has really raised concern regarding the quality of ports, the recent Bayonetta framerate issues have highlighted it as well. Has there yet been a demo of the game running off a PS3?

[Hawkbit]

No, but there were rumors of the PS3 version being late to the party a while back.  It very well may have issues. 

I'm hoping the price drop pushes the PS3 into sales/ownership superiority over X360 next year.  Maybe we'll see PS3 ports getting a little extra love.

[Xilren's Twin]

Any news on the conversion of this game to the PS3? Obviously situations like Ghost Busters has really raised concern regarding the quality of ports, the recent Bayonetta framerate issues have highlighted it as well. Has there yet been a demo of the game running off a PS3?

On Bioware's Social network there's an add for DA that says the PS3 verison will be available Nov 17th.

[Murgos]

I have my fingers crossed that this is all just the result of a really bad decision when the marketing team was selected.  Although, it's starting to sound like someone from marketing jostled their way into a decision making position during development and then swirled his dick around in the punch.

[BitWarrior]

Any news on the conversion of this game to the PS3? Obviously situations like Ghost Busters has really raised concern regarding the quality of ports, the recent Bayonetta framerate issues have highlighted it as well. Has there yet been a demo of the game running off a PS3?

On Bioware's Social network there's an add for DA that says the PS3 verison will be available Nov 17th.

Indeed, the word around has always been "Xbox and PC release early Nov, PS3 release later that month". It's not a question about if it's coming to the PS3, but the quality of its port (and if there might be issues like Ghost Busters and Bayonetta).

[Lantyssa]

Hmm i chalked the red tint up to weird lighting setup in the character creator (the small portraits are much closer to neutral in comparison) but after taking another look you're right, there's definitely room here for darker tones than what's offered. Maybe the range is limited to reflect what's typical for the country/area the game takes place and the black guy from the trailer is a foreigner from lands to the south or smth..?

Or maybe they should leave that up to the player?

[Tarami]

Hmm i chalked the red tint up to weird lighting setup in the character creator (the small portraits are much closer to neutral in comparison) but after taking another look you're right, there's definitely room here for darker tones than what's offered. Maybe the range is limited to reflect what's typical for the country/area the game takes place and the black guy from the trailer is a foreigner from lands to the south or smth..?

Or maybe they should leave that up to the player?

Player customizable customization? Crazy talk!

[AutomaticZen]

I just found it odd after KOTOR1&2/Neverwinter/Mass Effect.  I actually expected to play a white guy in this one (much like being asian in Jade Empire) but then they got my hopes up with the trailer.

Others have mentioned it on their ugly ugly forums, so there's hope they fix it.

[Big Gulp]

I just found it odd after KOTOR1&2/Neverwinter/Mass Effect.  I actually expected to play a white guy in this one (much like being asian in Jade Empire) but then they got my hopes up with the trailer.

Huh?  You could play a black guy in Mass Effect.  Hell, that was one of my characters.

I understand it's fantasy, and that normal rules don't apply, but it always seems jarring to me seeing black characters in a genre that is so heavily influenced on European/Teutonic myths.  Unless they're like the Sothrons (re, Moors) black characters just don't seem to fit into what's supposedly medieval Europe, but with fairies and dragons.

[Ingmar]

I just found it odd after KOTOR1&2/Neverwinter/Mass Effect.  I actually expected to play a white guy in this one (much like being asian in Jade Empire) but then they got my hopes up with the trailer.

Huh?  You could play a black guy in Mass Effect.  Hell, that was one of my characters.

Yes, that's what he's saying. It is odd that after those first 4 that there's less choice in this one.

As far as the actual looks of the characters, I was able to make a whole bunch of perfectly normal looking people last night. You people either suck at it or are deliberately making ugly people so you can be more negative about it.   The only real bummers are the aforementioned race thing and the lack of height/weight sliders.

[Big Gulp]

Yes, that's what he's saying. It is odd that after those first 4 that there's less choice in this one.

Ah, okay.  Whoosh.   

[Yegolev]

So far this sounds terrible.  Let's go back to pictures of dwarf women.

[Nonentity]

I'm breaking up with you.

 

[Yegolev]

[Tarami]

Indigestion?

[Draegan]

I think he shat his pants.

[FatuousTwat]

I think he she shat his her pants.

[schild]

The DLC plan for this game is utter bollocks. Two years worth including things like item packs all the way up to giant mission packs? Oh please. Just make expansions or GTFO. Microtransactions have a time and place, boxed games are not that place and the current generation of consoles is not the right time.

[tmp]

As far as the actual looks of the characters, I was able to make a whole bunch of perfectly normal looking people last night. You people either suck at it or are deliberately making ugly people so you can be more negative about it.  

Oh you can make normal looking characters alright. My complaint was more about, in order to achieve that some of the sliders need to be put in certain positions and straying from that even slightly warps the results all way to freakville. Which makes these particular sliders useless at best, with potential to harm the end effect (if say, there's characters out there done with randomly generated slider positions) I just don't know how that managed to leave the artist desks... though perhaps they were busy making the day 1 DLC.

[FatuousTwat]

I can make a normal person, they just all seem sorta emo. It's the eyebrows... I want to make someone who looks like they are enraged.

[Sky]

The DLC plan for this game is utter bollocks. Two years worth including things like item packs all the way up to giant mission packs? Oh please. Just make expansions or GTFO. Microtransactions have a time and place, boxed games are not that place and the current generation of consoles is not the right time.

I might share your feeling if it weren't completely optional or if the game is not enjoyable without spending a lot of money.

I can make a normal person, they just all seem sorta emo. It's the eyebrows... I want to make someone who looks like they are enraged.

Yeah, feeling the same about the eyebrows, everyone looks a bit hopeless and sad. Pet peeve: sliders reset when you change beards  I messed around for a bit, but having to redo everything every time I tried a new facial hair setup is  I join the camp of not believing this passed the art department. The top face coloration slider (from jaundiced to black sunken eyes) is straight out of Oblivion.

I want to be a fanboi, and it certainly isn't the worst character creator I've seen, but it is a bit curious they released it in its current state.

[Tarami]

Oh you can make normal looking characters alright. My complaint was more about, in order to achieve that some of the sliders need to be put in certain positions and straying from that even slightly warps the results all way to freakville. Which makes these particular sliders useless at best, with potential to harm the end effect (if say, there's characters out there done with randomly generated slider positions) I just don't know how that managed to leave the artist desks... though perhaps they were busy making the day 1 DLC.

This.

Actually I got so retarded for a moment that I took the time to do this, it's a composite image of the jaw settings (since those are the most significant deformation sliders) of all the presets for human females. I found it very telling.

[Stormwaltz]

The DLC plan for this game is utter bollocks.

Schild, you are not Challenging Everything and Being Bold.

[Khaldun]

I just found it odd after KOTOR1&2/Neverwinter/Mass Effect.  I actually expected to play a white guy in this one (much like being asian in Jade Empire) but then they got my hopes up with the trailer.

Huh?  You could play a black guy in Mass Effect.  Hell, that was one of my characters.

I understand it's fantasy, and that normal rules don't apply, but it always seems jarring to me seeing black characters in a genre that is so heavily influenced on European/Teutonic myths.  Unless they're like the Sothrons (re, Moors) black characters just don't seem to fit into what's supposedly medieval Europe, but with fairies and dragons.

Sidejack: in most of Mediterranean Europe, seeing dark-skinned people from Africa or the Middle East during the high medieval period wouldn't have been that unusual, at least in port cities or major administrative capitals. There were ambassadors from Ethiopia, for example, in Rome, Venice, Florence, Avignon, Paris, etc. during the high medieval era. In Northern Europe, a bit more unusual, but even then, in some of the cities, not unprecedented. It's partly just a question of how you construct high fantasy worlds--Howard's Conan universe, in some slightly uncomfortable ways, pretty much buys into south = non-white, north = Teutonic white, but ok, it works well enough.

[stray]

Unfortunately, blacks in Howard's universe were usually mindless, naked servants of either 1) a hot chick pirate or 2) some godawful unspeakable presence that even Conan was scared of.

But umm.. they were there, I'll give you that.

edit: Wait, he did have the Nubian kingdom stuff.. But I think he just mapped it out. I don't remember an actual story with them. But whatever.

[WindupAtheist]

What mostly annoys me are situations like WoW, where the developers set the skin tone of 2% of the faceless NPC population to black for no real reason other than what feels like vague concern that someone will call them racist otherwise. You meet the odd occasional black questgiver, like the captain of the Skybreaker in Icecrown, and it's like... what the hell? Is this guy supposed to be some kind of reverse-albino? Because we know there isn't really more than one human culture in the world.

On the other hand there are plenty of black people in the Elder Scrolls games and nobody I know of ever gave it a second thought, since they're an actual race that comes from somewhere in that world. Fable never really bothered to explain where Thunder and Whisper were from, but ten seconds of listening to their accent was enough to tell you that Albion wasn't the whole world and that those two came from somewhere else.

Having some Ethiopians hanging around in Rome is great, just make sure your world includes an Ethiopia. Don't just go "Okay the entire human race is white. Whoops that sounds kinda racist, okay one in fifty is black for some reason!" and expect me not to lift an eyebrow.

[Ingmar]

I can make a normal person, they just all seem sorta emo. It's the eyebrows... I want to make someone who looks like they are enraged.

The reason for not being able to make a guy look pissed off from the get go, I think, is they seem to change the facial expression based on mood, so if your guy is actually pissed off in dialogue or fighting or whatever, then the expression will change. What you're doing in the character generator is just setting the 'base' state for the face. At least that appears to be the case, anyway. Who knows how well it works in the actual game.

[Elerion]

I don't want my wife raping, castle pillaging, village burning mage to be Base State: Emo 

[Ingmar]

Classy. 

[Riggswolfe]

Game Informer already has a review up. I found it highly amusing that one of their pros under sound was: It doesn't have the crappy heavy metal from the trailer.

[Stormwaltz]

The installer crashes 100% of the time on my Vista-64 machine, right after selecting Express or Custom install (happens with both options).

*sigh*

[FatuousTwat]

I can make a normal person, they just all seem sorta emo. It's the eyebrows... I want to make someone who looks like they are enraged.

The reason for not being able to make a guy look pissed off from the get go, I think, is they seem to change the facial expression based on mood, so if your guy is actually pissed off in dialogue or fighting or whatever, then the expression will change. What you're doing in the character generator is just setting the 'base' state for the face. At least that appears to be the case, anyway. Who knows how well it works in the actual game.

Ah, good point, I didn't think of that.

[Sky]

I'll kick off the ugliest character contest with Aedan the Unfortunate.

[schild]

More like Aedan, The Brother's Father.

[Sky]

Goodbye mama, now you can have ice cream in heavan! I'll see you again tonight when I go to bed in my head movies. But this head movie makes my eyes rain!