Boss used credit card. It has my name on it.

[Cheddar]

hm i don't think i wanna get into police stuff here. just get him cancel and get this family shit away. I really have nothing more to say to my family. If they still insist on me to stay in his company and don't want to support my decision, then i guess i'll just ignore them.

Worst decision ever.  You are actually doing him more harm this way; read all the above posts.  He has done this before, he has a problem, its going to get worse.  A lot worse.  His reaction is classic guilt driven; in addition you know what is going on behind the scenes.  This WILL bite you in the ass.  You need to at least make a report. 

[schild]

I would fuck him in his ass harder than his wife has ever fucked him before. I would fuck him so hard he'd have dickholes where his eyes used to be. DON'T BE A FUCKING PUSSY.

[Trippy]

If this was a personal card and not a corporate one you'll still need to check your credit to see if he's done any damage to it. You also still need to find out if he opened a bank account in your name.

[rk47]

I've got to try to cut everything on the credit side now, but right now the family's a mess. Asian values and shit are making things complicated. What kind of boss calls an employee's parents for poor work behavior? I won't press charges since my dad told me to go easy on his younger brother, but the way they sympathized with him makes me sick. 'He stepped the line, but you didn't have to react this way' was my mom's pacifist approach. 'Maybe I should call him and tell him not to shout so much.' Wow mom. That's like telling him to stop fuckin' intimidating me. Brilliant. 

Right now I'm just gonna find a new job. Cut family ties for a while and start fresh. It's not worth worrying over and taking this to the police may take this too far. Family and work just don't mix. Fuck the family. No more help me help you.

[Cheddar]

...Asian ...
Right now I'm just gonna find a new job. Cut family ties for a while and start fresh. It's not worth worrying over and taking this to the police may take this too far. Family and work just don't mix. Fuck the family. No more help me help you.

Worst decision ever.   I do look forward to a future post, though.    Have any sisters?

[schild]

I've got to try to cut everything on the credit side now, but right now the family's a mess. Asian values and shit are making things complicated. What kind of boss calls an employee's parents for poor work behavior? I won't press charges since my dad told me to go easy on his younger brother, but the way they sympathized with him makes me sick. 'He stepped the line, but you didn't have to react this way' was my mom's pacifist approach. 'Maybe I should call him and tell him not to shout so much.' Wow mom. That's like telling him to stop fuckin' intimidating me. Brilliant. 

Right now I'm just gonna find a new job. Cut family ties for a while and start fresh. It's not worth worrying over and taking this to the police may take this too far. Family and work just don't mix. Fuck the family. No more help me help you.

Fuck the family indeed. And dude, take your uncle to town. Seriously.

[Cheddar]

One thing; we obviously care about you for some strange reason.  If you do nothing you will get fucked.  This is one of those rare times you should get galvanized by the intardwebs and actually do something. 


As someone who has been fucked, take my advice, and take the time to read through each post while sober.  You will save yourself from heartache if you follow the advice above.

[lamaros]

hm i don't think i wanna get into police stuff here. just get him cancel and get this family shit away. I really have nothing more to say to my family. If they still insist on me to stay in his company and don't want to support my decision, then i guess i'll just ignore them.

You don't have to press changes, but you do have to ensure you are properly covered should the situation get/turn out to be worse that it is now. Make sure you are safe and not liable for anything, and once you have done that then do whatever you feel is best regarding the family situation.

[photek]

Then his wife called me over. And told me just stay. "he wanted you to stay. Just try to work a little harder, on mean time try to find another company, we won't stop you. We're sorry for applying for the credit card behind your back. We should've told you.'   Yeah too bad really, I don't hate her.

Oh no, no no no no fucking way no. As soon as she admitted that, they are BOTH liable for credit card fraud. It's got nothing to do with family or employee-employer, it's CRIMINAL vs. VICTIM. That's horseshit. They are trying to use family to rob you fucking blind. Fuck that shit. Nail his monkey ass to the wall.

I'm with HaemishM on this. On a sidenote and not to derail the topic completely, I have a friend who comes from Armenia and has high respect for his parents, although being 24 years old. His mom is a psycho and his brother is a homosexual plastic surgeon addict. His mom takes half of his paycheck to cover the brothers plastic surgeon expenses, his mother took his 360, PS3, all the games and sold them, his mother took his brand new laptop and sold it. Why ? Cause she is a fucking nutcase. What does he do ? Nothing. And this stuff has been going on for a couple of years now.

As much hatred and fuel can run through a mans veins at times like these and picking up a hatchet seems like pretty fucking good idea, the best thing you can do is rip them apart, legally. Go with it the courtway or this will hurt you bigtime in the future and you will end up as the victim in your family. Psychology and mentality is clearly against you in this case, don't give up. They are wrong and ABUSING you, you are right. Go legal.

[Trippy]

[Ozzu]

hm i don't think i wanna get into police stuff here. just get him cancel and get this family shit away. I really have nothing more to say to my family. If they still insist on me to stay in his company and don't want to support my decision, then i guess i'll just ignore them.

You don't have to press changes, but you do have to ensure you are properly covered should the situation get/turn out to be worse that it is now. Make sure you are safe and not liable for anything, and once you have done that then do whatever you feel is best regarding the family situation.

This. Even if all you do is call the police and have them document what was going on, at least you'd have a third party that would have all this easily accessible if it ever went any further and you actually WANTED to press charges.

I'm telling you. The police are your friends here.

[HaemishM]

The law is on your side. This uncle is a CRIMINAL. You are a victim. Even if he isn't arrested, fired or skullfucked, you absolutely have got to make sure you find out all the financial shit he has gotten you into. Maybe it's alarmist, but one asshole with a credit card in your name can absolutely fuck you for a decade or more. You want a house? No. You want a new car? No. You want a spiffy new job? In some cases, you might actually be disqualified for that because your credit is fucked.

This is not just a little thing. The family part just makes it worse, but if your dad has been bailing his little brother out for years to keep his ass out of jail, IT WON'T STOP NOW. Trust me, I have family (luckily not immediate) that would steal the copper piping out of my house for a buck if I left them too long in my house. People like this don't change. The best you can do is 1) disconnect yourself from their lives and 2) make sure their asses are locked up and kept away from other people's money.

[Paelos]

Calling the police is too far. Contacting a qualified non-ambulance-chaser lawyer is the way to go. You ask them for legal advice. They may not want to charge them with anything, but you at least ask for their professional opinion. They can also help protect you in case your uncle decides to put the screws to you much later down the road.

What about future jobs you want to get? What about your references? You need to have documentation to prove you did what was necessary in this situation. Having a lawyer will also go a long way to protecting you against any identity theft issues. Just ask a lawyer what you should do instead of a bunch of internet folks or your family. The latter groups won't give you a realistic solution. Don't just assume everything is ok until you ask.

[Falwell]

Family thieves are the worst types. They steal from their kin SPECIFICALLY because they know they will get leniency. They not only steal what is rightfully yours, but bank on your family ties to allow them to get away with it. It's manipulation and con artistry at it's worst.

My view is that a person who steals from their family no longer considers them as such simply because a person who valued that bond would not steal from them. In short, he should be treated like a common, bum, deadbeat crook. Why? Because that is what he is. No amount of relation will change it. I know, I've had this happen to me in the past over a death in the family.

[lac]

Just ask a lawyer what you should do instead of a bunch of internet folks or your family. The latter groups won't give you a realistic solution. Don't just assume everything is ok until you ask.

Walk away if you wish but make sure your are legally covered. Once you are gone he will still have all your personal data. He can do this again any time he wants until you act on it.

[eldaec]

hm i don't think i wanna get into police stuff here. just get him cancel and get this family shit away. I really have nothing more to say to my family. If they still insist on me to stay in his company and don't want to support my decision, then i guess i'll just ignore them.

This seems sensible to me.

If I were you, I'd probably make sure the card is cancelled, stay put in the short term, and look for another job.

I'd only start thinking about suing people if I thought there was a significant risk of me being landed with a large bill or being accused of involvement in something illegal. But as Paelos said, taking advice from a lawyer rather than from random guys on the intarweb wouldn't hurt.

If you think your uncle may be defrauding on a larger scale, you could always have a quiet word with your uncle's boss once you've found alternate employment, and let them know that you don't want make an enormous fuss, but this is what is going on, and why you are leaving. If the company's higher management want to investigate, they'll have all the records they need to do so, if they don't - then it is not likely much will come of it anyway.

[Merusk]

hm i don't think i wanna get into police stuff here. just get him cancel and get this family shit away. I really have nothing more to say to my family. If they still insist on me to stay in his company and don't want to support my decision, then i guess i'll just ignore them.

This seems sensible to me.

But it's not. It is not, AT ALL.  This is what he was hoping for by calling his parents.  His dad said "go easy on my baby brother" so there was some manipulation there about how "your son's being mean to me, big bro"    Not to mention, as someone else said, he still has his information.  What's to say he wouldn't just do it again and work harder at keeping it hidden?

 At the VERY least, RK, you need a lawyer.  I still say the police should be involved, because your aunt and uncle BLOTH are defrauding the company and fucking with your future.  You're young and might not see it that way now, but you'll regret it in 5-10 years if your credit is fucked and you can't do anything.

[UnSub]

I don't know what country you are in rk, but call a fraud protection service and lay it out to them. Do what they tell you to do. Cover yourself from that angle. This might see your uncle get hit with a fraud investigation - how badly you want to avoid that can cause problems down the line (because if he did it once, he might still have the materials to do it again).

Family screws it all up. While we here in our comfy chairs can say, "FUCK YOUR FAMILY! SKULL FUCK YOUR UNCLE!", you've got to live with them.

Definitely change jobs. Ask your uncle for a reference, thank him for his 'help' and never look back. If he wants to bitch about providing the reference, talk to your aunt who at least sounds more conciliatory about it. Depending on what work you are doing, a reference can be vital for getting another job, or just a help. If you've got another boss, ask them for that reference.

If your parents ask why, tell them your uncle violated your trust by stealing from you, then firing you. You are just protecting yourself against it happening again (at least with family members).

[Lantyssa]

I can understand not wanting to hurt your family.  Being older and having seen families do some really shitty things I think it's bad to avoid it for what it might cost in the future, but I'll go with that as an understanding in my internet advice column.

Get a lawyer and follow their advice at a minimum.  Credit fraud can screw you over for decades.  Protecting your family is noble, but you absolutely have to protect yourself.  If you walk away completely, you have a high likelyhood of being fucked forever.  If your uncle is willing to take a card out in your name to commit willing fraud, and his wife knows, how much can you take their word they will cancel it?  Protect yourself.

While it doesn't seem like you will, filing a police report will provide some evidence for credit agencies and others in the future should this turn into a real problem.  You can choose not to press charges, but at least there would be some documentation for further protection.  A lawyer can help you figure out how to protect yourself without getting into a legal battle.  This doesn't have to be an either/or situation involving jail/courts/what-have-you, so please keep that in mind.

[rattran]

"Go See a Lawyer, You Fucking Tool."

Your uncle is screwing you, don't let him get away with it. If you just walk away, you're enabling him. Think of his next poor bastard of an employee.

[Miasma]

Try and get into your worthless Uncle's mind.  You stole your nephew's identity to take out a credit card in his name, you think he "owes" you that.  Now you're angry because he found out and dared to question you.  The stupid nephew then quietly shuffles off without any repercussions.  Now you know you can walk all over the nephew and may as well take out more credit cards or put illegal stuff in his name etc.  You're also angry at him so you want to hurt him and will go ahead and do it.

Fuck your uncle.

[bhodi]

"Go See a Lawyer, You Fucking Tool."

This is the only advice you need to follow. Seriously. Getting a layer does not mean you are going to sue them. It means getting informed on various options, including defensive ones.

[ClydeJr]

As someone who had an aunt steal several million dollars from a family business over 15 years, lawyer up. They know the right questions to ask. Watch your ass first, anyone elses after that. Trust me, everyone else is doing the same.

However if you do want to pull some family strings, you should tell your parents that they should support you over the uncle.

[pants]

I just thought I'd join the "See a lawyer or a fraud mob or something" queue.  One thing thats worrying me, IANAL and all, but if you walk away knowing that he has committed fraud, and don't do anything about it, I'd be worried that when he gets into serious trouble over this (and one day he will), he could drag you in as "Aiding and abetting" him - simply because you knew he was doing wrong and didn't do anything about it.  So I'm not saying Fuck your uncle, coz I agree hes family and all, but at the very least cover your own arse.  You do NOT want to be spending time in the big house for abetting fraud.

[rk47]

Meh, it shouldn't be a family shit. But he kept bringing up all his 'help' vs 'my help'. I thank you all for your advice but right now I think I should just keep a level head and make sure I'm covered. Make sure the law is on my side, and plan for a future job change. I admit I just fired that 'Hey my name on credit card' out of frustration cause it's not the first time he took me for a one-on-one talk that didn't sound like Employee-Employer but more like an Uncle threatening his nephew on work performance. Hence I brought the word '(verbal) abuse' in front of him. Then he just went bonkers. Right then I felt like I had nothing to lose and fired away the 'credit card' question. Family drama in the office ensued. I just want him to stop threatening me so I told him to quit intimidating me, but it just made shit worse.

Meh. Family.  I'm still working at the moment. Wouldn't talk to each other and shit. Oh well. Back to work.

[Furiously]

Glad to see he won!

[Samprimary]

rk47, you are making a huge mistake. Everybody I know who let the family member just get away with this sort of shit has lived to regret it. Every last one.

You are at the edge of a precipice. If you do not act, it will cost you.

It's not worth worrying over and taking this to the police may take this too far.

Mind-bogglingly untrue. It is worth worrying over and taking it to the police or at least talking to a qualified lawyer about this is the minimum amount of ass-covering that this situation necessitates.  I'm sorry if I'm hitting you with Lecturing Post #3958364 but ...

[TheWalrus]

Please to post after he does some sideways shit to make it look like you were stealing from the company and/or some other shady shit and gets you in trouble with the law. I look forward to with much eagernicity.

[Gorky]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but IMHO the #1 reason to get the law involved in this would be to cover your ass if the CC was used for illegal purposes. You do not want the FBI knocking on your door with a warrant for subscribing to some 'questionable' website or something similar. No, this is not  stuff

[Oban]

Please to post after he does some sideways shit to make it look like you were stealing from the company and/or some other shady shit and gets you in trouble with the law. I look forward to with much eagernicity.

Yes.  Please to be give update regularly on the collapse of your life.

[Merusk]

Agreed.

It'll be super epic when he explains to your parents that's why you blew up and caused all the problems over the last few days as you're carted off to jail.

[Tebonas]

You don't have to believe some schmucks in the Internet anything. But there is family loyalty, and there is being stupid and waiting to be screwed over.

Don't trust our word, ask your lawyer.

[Azazel]

Either grow some balls and take care of it properly or just kill yourself now and get it over faster.


If you continue to take the softcock way out, you will be fucked. I get the feeling you actually know this, but you're sticking your head in the sand and hoping for the best instead of even covering your own arse.

[Sky]

Hey rk, can I have your SS#, please?

[Signe]

Geez, you guys.