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Grand Design
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on: June 02, 2008, 03:27:41 AM

So, Donnie Darko was pretty much cinematic perfection.  Its that rare type of film that is incomprehensible on first viewing, and yet is emotionally powerful enough to be effective, whether or not the viewer realizes what they have seen.  The story is tightly woven and no detail is unimportant.  Once understood, there is little room for interpretation. 

I ask then, why in the fuck would anyone even consider the idea of a sequel?

S. Darko "follows Donnie Darko's younger sister, Samantha, who, in the wake of his death, has found herself at age 17 with a broken family, mired in feelings of insignificance." 

Is this a joke?  For anyone who isn't immediately repulsed by this, let me draw a comparison to another film from which Darko borrowed quite a bit (and gives a nod to.)  How would you do a sequel to Last Temptation of Christ?  It could follow Mary Megdelaine, who, in the wake of Jesus' death, has found herself at age 35 with a broken family, mired in feelings of insignificance.  It doesn't work because, frankly, it is insignificant.  He saved the fucking world - not in the Bruce Willis way, but the messiah way.  There is no sequel!

Richard Kelly obviously has nothing to do with this.  Chris Fisher, a television director, is filming now.  I'm guessing there will be no Sparkle Motion, which would be the only reason I'd bother to see it.

More?  Elizabeth Berkley, aka Showgirl, is attached.  Joy.

This will be in the $2.99 bin at Best Buy faster than Blair Witch 2.  Which is arguably better than the original Blair Witch, but I digress.


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Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 04:03:26 AM

This is inexplicable.

I can't even call it a moneygrab.
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Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 04:35:40 AM

I agree with everything you said except this :



 Once understood, there is little room for interpretation.



Doing a sequel is stoopid.

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Reply #3 on: June 02, 2008, 08:44:38 AM

Richard Kelly obviously has nothing to do with this.  Chris Fisher, a television director, is filming now. 

That should tell you everything you need to know to avoid the fuck out of this.

Go watch Southland Tales instead.

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Reply #4 on: June 02, 2008, 09:49:05 AM

Its on my queue.  The generally negative reviews of it are encouraging.
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Reply #5 on: June 02, 2008, 10:16:08 AM

If you liked Donnie Darko, I think you'll like Southland Tales. It's not as good, but I liked it a lot.

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Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 11:52:09 AM

Highlander 2!

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Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 12:26:53 PM

Basic Instinct 2!
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Reply #8 on: June 02, 2008, 12:29:41 PM

Breakin' 2: Electric boogaloo

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Reply #9 on: June 02, 2008, 12:54:16 PM

Breakin' 2: Electric boogaloo

Thats some quality right there.

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Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 02:17:47 PM

The Crow: City of Angels.

 ACK!

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Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 02:18:54 PM

Mortal Kombat: Annihilation

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Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 02:25:38 PM

Starship Troopers 2

The Matrix: Reloaded

Porky's II

Teen Wolf Too

Dumb and Dumberer

Jaws IV

Speed 2

Weekend at Bernie's II

Caddyshack 2


I can go on.. tremble at the horror.

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Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 02:35:52 PM

Leonard Part 6
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Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 02:42:37 PM

I'm calling the thread here:

Cannonball Run 2

Raise away.
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Reply #15 on: June 02, 2008, 02:49:53 PM

Blues Brothers 2...000
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Reply #16 on: June 02, 2008, 03:06:43 PM

Tremors 1

through 4
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Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 03:23:13 PM

I call your Cannonball Run 2 and raise...


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Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 03:24:24 PM

Didn't the first one suck though?

Admittedly, I almost folded on Blues Brothers 2000, but I'm not sure I consider that a true sequel per se. Could only stomach parts of it though.
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Reply #19 on: June 02, 2008, 03:26:10 PM

I was going on "bad sequels."  I didn't know the rule was "bad sequels to good movies."

How about...


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Reply #20 on: June 02, 2008, 03:31:19 PM

Bah, that was the fourth one  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Yea, sorry, thought it was horrific sequels to good original movies.
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Reply #21 on: June 02, 2008, 04:20:50 PM

Yes, as the above posts point out, there are constantly bad sequels to good movies.  However, my point was that the events depicted in Darko cannot have a sequel of substance.  What could possibly be as important as what Donnie does?  This is why I mentioned Last Temptation - both films deal with insanity, The Maker, alternate realities, doing what is good above what is desired, and ultimately, the salvation of mankind.  How can you create a sequel to that?

Oh, you all forgot Big Top Peewee - that was a travesty of epic proportions.
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Reply #22 on: June 02, 2008, 04:29:28 PM

What I always get a kick of is "Final Destination #"

You've already got two definitive endings: "Final" and "Destination". There's something more?! It's like saying "infinite infinities" or some shit. Milk milk milk.

Otherwise, yea, unfortunately your profound question go dragged through brinkmanship  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #23 on: June 02, 2008, 04:47:20 PM

Cruel Intentions 2
Wild Things 2
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Reply #24 on: June 02, 2008, 04:54:18 PM

There was a Cruel Intentions 2?

That's like making a Merchant of Venice 2.
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Reply #25 on: June 02, 2008, 04:59:37 PM

Even funnier:

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Reply #26 on: June 02, 2008, 05:20:19 PM

I'm looking for words to describe... but I think the film tagline says it all.  An Immoral Playground of Seduction and Revenge.  That making of that movie was immoral and apparently revenge on me for kind of liking the first one.

Although Cruel Intentions was not a bad film, it was a completely taken out of context and lesser Dangerous Liasons.

Another example of what I'm talking about is 2010.  While there certainly is some room for interpretation of 2001, there was no need for a sequel.  2001 takes place before, during and after the current state of man.  2010 brings us back to modern man in an attempt to tie everything up.  That's an unnecessary regression of the story.  My point is - bad sequels to great films are the product of misinterpretation.  Throw any Psycho sequel into that category as well.

And I don't want to in any way discourage the making of bad films.  They are a large part of my viewing entertainment.
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Reply #27 on: June 02, 2008, 06:11:16 PM

2010 was first a book. Now, you could argue the book wasn't necessarily needed. However, it still set the stage for a few interesting things in the series, and at least brought some closure.

The movie was a big departure on details, but similar at least in premise. But like Hunt for Red October, those departures made it a better movie than a true adaptation of the book would have.
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Reply #28 on: June 03, 2008, 02:17:11 AM

30 Upcoming Movie Sequels You Didn't Know about

I wasn't sure how kosher this list was so I checked some of them against imdb, all of them are listed there, although a fair few are distant "development projects" which I guess may or may not ever see the light of day.

I'm not sure how I'm going to take Paul Verhoeven directing the Thomas Crown Affair 2, it doesn't really seem to be in his line of work.
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Reply #29 on: June 03, 2008, 02:39:11 AM

Didn't Chev die at the end of Crank? How will that work? Making him survive that ruins the whole movie for me.
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Reply #30 on: June 03, 2008, 04:10:31 AM

Hey Darniaq, Final Destination 4 is on that list.

There's too much to quote, but Cliffhanger 2?  Why?

And Michael Bay remaking Nightmare on Elm Street?  Whyer?
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Reply #31 on: June 03, 2008, 04:57:14 AM

Another example of what I'm talking about is 2010.  While there certainly is some room for interpretation of 2001, there was no need for a sequel.  2001 takes place before, during and after the current state of man.  2010 brings us back to modern man in an attempt to tie everything up.  That's an unnecessary regression of the story.  My point is - bad sequels to great films are the product of misinterpretation.  Throw any Psycho sequel into that category as well.

That depends at least 2010 was an Arthur C. Clarke novel that was turned into a movie
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Reply #32 on: June 03, 2008, 05:01:00 AM

By the way they are remaking "The taking of Pelham 123". They don't even try anymore or what?
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Reply #33 on: June 03, 2008, 05:10:27 AM


Jason Stratham is apparently in all of them.

Also, American Psycho 2.  I mean srsly?

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Reply #34 on: June 03, 2008, 05:14:50 AM

Starship Troopers 2


"Starship Troopers 3: Marauder: Casper Van Diem is back, but it’s still going straight to DVD, as the piss-awful second film did. It’s due out later this year."

From the link above.

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