Am I the only male...

[Riggswolfe]

between the ages of 18 and 35 that doesn't enjoy South Park?

I don't see the attraction it reminds me of the juvenile humor I enjoyed in middle school. Maybe it has some deeper philosophy behind it, but I miss it because they seem to intent on offending as part of their humor.

Maybe I'm just getting old.

[schild]

No. Southpark stopped being funny around my Junior year of high school (17). I've seen ONE (count them), 1, funny episode since then. I mean funny like I was 12 years old again. It was the episode where they all bought ninja weapons and butters got a shruiken stuck in his eye because you know, 'it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye,' and they dressed him up as a dog because everyone will help a dog and he's wandering around town while the other guys are getting into "fights" with retarded kids. Anyway, that episode was funny. Oh, and the song was fucking hilarious.

Let's fighting love!

[Riggswolfe]

Thank god. I thought I was "out of touch" or old or something

[Romp]

the one with the ninjas was the first one in the latest series which just started here in Aus.  I couldnt stop laughing when Cartman was using his invisible power to walk sideways across the stage in front of 100 people.

Anyway generally I think its one of the funniest cartoons ever but like pretty much everything it's not as good as it was at the start.

[stray]

Never could sit through an episode longer than 10 minutes, and when I finally did, it was the one that turned me off completely (the whole episode was about some Gerbil trapped in a dude's ass)....Not because I'm a prude or because I'm shocked, it's because Parker and Stone have absolutely nothing to say. If I want to be shocked, I'll watch Tetsuo or Richard Kern.

Actually, I noticed one of the poster's here (forget which) has that same gerbil as their avatar.

[schild]

TV Series generally don't hit their stride until mid way through.

Examples:
Seinfeld peaked at seasons 4-7.

Highlander became arguably one of the best shows 'evar' from season 4 to halfway through season 5. It was just a sci-fi show, then it became something much much more. Fanbois would argue the whole show was amazing, I look at the show as background leading up to those 35 or so episodes (out of about, I don't know, 150 or so.

Married With Children became art once Bud got pubes and ms. applegate got boobs. Funny how that works. ST:TNG really came into it's own after season 3.

Friends (ya, that show..) became Very good between seasons 4-6.

Smallville probably would have peaked this year if Christopher Reeves hadn't passed away.

Gilmore Girls jumped the shark last season (season 4). It was rather apparent when the producers fell back on "the relationship" everyone wanted to see since season 1.

X-Files took 4 seasons to grow into itself - even though I really like the horror-heavy seasons 2 and 3 (Tooms, Obsession, Darkness Falls, etc).

Alias is going to peak this coming season. It's why they're holding out. I refuse to believe Lost set back their production at all considering 13 of the alias episodes were in the bag in August.

24 peaked 12 hours into the first season. Stupid gimmick. THat is however, arguably halfway through the entire series.

As for southpark, once they reached a huge fanbase, they stopped being fringe/niche edgy and became "mainstream edgy." That's not to say they sold out. But a giant flying vagina and the ninja thing never would have happened between seasons 1-3. Shows like that Need to be better the first few seasons to make it. Pity Fox didn't realize the goldmine they had with Family Guy. (Nor did ABC realize what they had with Veritas, and look what it's turned into now - a Nick Cage movie called National Treasure; tickets go on sale Nov. 18th!).

I could go on. You really have to have an incredible installed viewer base to succeed on TV today...or you have to be a reality show. And fuck that noise. I'll never support that crap. Ever. For the record, Monster House is not reality tv.

[Riggswolfe]

You know, the only TV shows I've really watched since ST:TNG went off the air are:

MacGyver
Friends
Buffy TVS

I'm not sure what that says about me.

[Comstar]

I for one think Stargate's pretty good still, though we're a year behind you. It seems to have kept it's sense of humor at any rate, something the various ST shows lost a long time ago (ST has no sense of humor, it's part of the Federation cultuer).

[Arnold]

TV Series generally don't hit their stride until mid way through.

Examples:
Seinfeld peaked at seasons 4-7.

Highlander became arguably one of the best shows 'evar' from season 4 to halfway through season 5. It was just a sci-fi show, then it became something much much more. Fanbois would argue the whole show was amazing, I look at the show as background leading up to those 35 or so episodes (out of about, I don't know, 150 or so.

Married With Children became art once Bud got pubes and ms. applegate got boobs. Funny how that works. ST:TNG really came into it's own after season 3.

Friends (ya, that show..) became Very good between seasons 4-6.

Smallville probably would have peaked this year if Christopher Reeves hadn't passed away.

Gilmore Girls jumped the shark last season (season 4). It was rather apparent when the producers fell back on "the relationship" everyone wanted to see since season 1.

X-Files took 4 seasons to grow into itself - even though I really like the horror-heavy seasons 2 and 3 (Tooms, Obsession, Darkness Falls, etc).

Alias is going to peak this coming season. It's why they're holding out. I refuse to believe Lost set back their production at all considering 13 of the alias episodes were in the bag in August.

24 peaked 12 hours into the first season. Stupid gimmick. THat is however, arguably halfway through the entire series.

As for southpark, once they reached a huge fanbase, they stopped being fringe/niche edgy and became "mainstream edgy." That's not to say they sold out. But a giant flying vagina and the ninja thing never would have happened between seasons 1-3. Shows like that Need to be better the first few seasons to make it. Pity Fox didn't realize the goldmine they had with Family Guy. (Nor did ABC realize what they had with Veritas, and look what it's turned into now - a Nick Cage movie called National Treasure; tickets go on sale Nov. 18th!).

I could go on. You really have to have an incredible installed viewer base to succeed on TV today...or you have to be a reality show. And fuck that noise. I'll never support that crap. Ever. For the record, Monster House is not reality tv.

Damn, you watch too much tv.

[WonderBrick]

I still really enjoy Southpark.  There is almost always more to it then just shocking humor.  The only real fault I find with their show is that they stopped having as many sub-plots in each episode.

My favorite episode:  Red Hot Catholic Love (Season 6, Episode 8)

Watch it if you have not seen it.  Watch it again if it has been a while.  The whole shit coming out of people's mouths is one of the many great themes running through the episode.

[schild]

Damn, you watch too much tv.

Naw. I see most of it in archival form. I'll find a couple days and blow through 24 esisodes in that many hours. That's why I can remember seasions.

[SirBruce]

You probably need to watch a few more episodes of South Park to judge.  The last really awesome episode was the ninja episode.  New episodes are beginning shortly.

Bruce

[schild]

You probably need to watch a few more episodes of South Park to judge.  The last really awesome episode was the ninja episode.  New episodes are beginning shortly.

I don't think he's into S&M. If you were talking to me - no, I don't need to watch more episodes of southpark to judge.

[DarkDryad]

Screw you all. Bevis and Butthead on DVD RULES!

[toma levine]

I stopped watching Monster House when the producers (I think) started bringing "ringers" on to the build teams to generally fuck things up for everyone else. Prior to that, the teams usually got along decently and were able to get the job done quickly. Now, or at least in the last several episodes I could actually watch, there is always some jackhole on the team who's not only incompetent and can't do his job, but who brings all kinds of false, unnecessary drama to the show.

Pisses me off to the point of not watching it any more.

[Signe]

I still enjoy Southpark, when I catch it.  For some reason, I've never been able to fully commit myself to tv shows.  Even with Tivo or DVR, I rarely remember to set the timer.  The only 'show' I've consistantly watched or taped over the years, is Formula 1 Grand Prix events.  Strangely, I've caught every episode, so far, of that new show Captain Kirk is in, and I've found it somewhat amusing.  We should start setting the DVR for shows we enjoy more often.  Evidently, you can do it from the computer.

[Shannow]

X-Files was good until they started f'ing up with all the conspiracy episodes and plot lines. The once off wierd shit episodes were always the best.
I thought Alias started screwing up when they went away from 'Jennifer Garner dresses up really silly and kills some guys' to the wierd ongoing davinci plot stuff, her mother etc...but actually I found myself watching the end of the 2nd season and can't wait for the 3rd. This may do with the fact Im in love with Jennifer Garner though.
Haven't watched Southpark since 1999, Mr Hanky was always the best episode...oh and 'duck and cover'.

[eldaec]

It's a hit and miss thing - there are good episodes and bad ones.

Season 2 was much better than any of the others though. imo.

[Furiously]

Might give Andromeda a try if you are disappointed in ST. It seems to capture the original Star Trek to a campy degree.

[El Gallo]

Screw you all. Bevis and Butthead on DVD RULES!

This is the correct answer.  Sadly, the DVDs don't have the videos B&B watch and comment on, at least any that I have seen :/

[Polysorbate80]

There's one disc of four episodes where they include the music videos; to my knowledge none of the rest have them.

Of course, I could be missing some, despite the fact that even though the salesguy swore that the collection included all the episodes, there's a lot I can think of that aren't there (and probably more I'm forgetting that aren't there either).

It's a shame, because some of their funniest shit was in the commentary during the videos.  Still worth the money, though.

"Fire those retrorockets, shoot the fruiton torpedoes, and, uh, make us go *that* way"

[Roac]

I think SP is hit and miss.  Sometimes they'll hit a cord, and one thread they're hitting on is really funny.  Othertimes it just misses the mark in my oppinion, and I'm just "eh".  Normally I like humor when it pokes fun at RL; the ninja episode was a riot.  The "this is what necrophelia sounds like" wasn't.  The gerbil wasn't.  The veal episode was.  The "crap out your mouth" episode was.

As for Stargate, I'm starting to like it.  Couple years ago I caught it, marked it as crap, and avoided it.  What I didn't like, and still don't, is Richard Anderson.  I like that they're attempting to interject humor into SF stuff, but his character often does it in a way that voids any suspension of disbelief.  It's like he should be sitting on the front row at Mystery Science Theatre, not in the picture itself.  I think they did a better job at humor in Atlantis, and I'm really enjoying that series.

[Margalis]

You know, the only TV shows I've really watched since ST:TNG went off the air are:

MacGyver
Friends
Buffy TVS

I'm not sure what that says about me.

That you are a woman.

I liek South Park. What I like about it is that it isn't overtly political, but you can certainly read things into it. But it doesn't take itself too seriously. There is nothing worse than poorly made reality plays.

Edit: The Catholic episode was hilarious.

[Viin]

If you haven't seen Firefly, see it right god-damn now. I'm not kidding.

Get out of your seat. Walk to the elevator, take it to the ground floor, walk to your car, get in, start it, drive to Best Buy/Media Play/Wherever You Buy DVDs, get out of your car (leave it running), go inside, buy the Firefly 4 DVD set, go back to your car, get in (if it's not stolen), drive home, park (turn off your car), go inside, commence watching Firefly until you have completed all 4 DVDs.

Or, alternatively, get it on Netflix.

Seriously, this show kicks ass. Another show where FOX didn't know what they had before they canned it. Those bastards.

[sidereal]

Gilmore Girls jumped the shark last season (season 4). It was rather apparent when the producers fell back on "the relationship" everyone wanted to see since season 1.

Thank you for speaking truth to power.  My wife can't let the show go, but she gets a sad look in her eye after every episode.  You can tell the magic is gone.  Also, Lorelei is the most irritating, self-centered protagonist in history.

The basic lifecycle of every show is that there's a bunch of interesting characters thrown together at the beginning, a few new bit-characters get thrown into the mix who rarely, if ever, manage to integrate themselves fully, all of the characters interact with each other in every possible way, and then it gets tired.  Probably because once the show gets popular they want to play it safe and make all changes incremental rather than revolutionary.  Some shows get over this hump without being revolutionary and settle into a kind of steady hum.  Like The Simpsons, or  MASH.  Most shows really need a revolution to kickstart the creativity, though.

Par exemple, South Park should completely ditch the town of South Park, move the kids to the Virgin Islands, kill off Cartman, and replace him with Robin Williams.

[schild]

omfg firefly keke ^_^

Firefly was canceled because it was too slow and you know what, they were right. They were right about Harsh Realm too. Stop pimping a show that never made it through the first development arc (and couldn't in 9 episodes).

[Sky]

I love South Park. Great poopy humor and some social commentary.

Then again, my favorite show is the Daily Show, which has great social commentary with some poopy humor.

[MrHat]

I love South Park. Great poopy humor and some social commentary.

Then again, my favorite show is the Daily Show, which has great social commentary with some poopy humor.

lol.  poop.

I think that sums up where my interests lie.

[shiznitz]

I liked the first few seasons. I don't know if that was due to my frame of mind at the time or because the shows were actually better.

[Righ]

I could go on.

Oh, but you did.

[geldonyetich]

Most of the stuff on comedy network is unashamedly naughty in it's attempt to get a cheap laugh.  South Park is their flagship show that reflects this.

They've got some clever humor, but it's heavily mired in the shock humor that makes up most of their jokes.

Me - I mostly watch Adult Swim.  Venture Brothers is pretty damn good, but they've also got Futurama, Family Guy, Harvey Birdman Attorney At Law, and Aqua-Team Hunger Force.  There's a few good Cartoon Network shows  as well, such as MegasXLR.

[Paelos]

I really dislike that comedy central picked up MadTV for replays during primetime on the network. It's like they are reverting back to when they first got started and only played standup and old SNL. If they are going to do that I want to see MST3K make a resurgence.

[Merusk]

I really dislike that comedy central picked up MadTV for replays during primetime on the network. It's like they are reverting back to when they first got started and only played standup and old SNL. If they are going to do that I want to see MST3K make a resurgence.

I preferred the SNL reruns to the MadTV reruns. At least they had almost 30 years of seasons to cherry-pick from.   I used to find Mad TV entertaining, but now I want to kill every fucking one of the cast members slowly.

For your MST3k fix, pick-up some of the DVDs out now.  I grabbed the "Mannos/ Santa Claus Conquers Mars" set.  Oh dear god I'd forgotten how very very bad those movies were.

[MrHat]

Most of the stuff on comedy network is unashamedly naughty in it's attempt to get a cheap laugh.  South Park is their flagship show that reflects this.

They've got some clever humor, but it's heavily mired in the shock humor that makes up most of their jokes.

Reno 911 is gold.

[geldonyetich]

Well okay, Reno 911 and The Daily Show are good.   Granted, Reno 911 does have a sort of Comedy Network-esque appreciation of lowbrow shock humor at times.   "Blue Collar TV" is a comedy network original for a reason.