WotLK spoilerfication

[Drubear]

I think they're doing it with the new "zone phasing" they're introducing with LK. 

Not so sure it's all that new, there are at least a couple of BC dailies that do that - via quest items tho: the head item for the Nagrand readings and the "phase bauble" for the Bashir's "Opening the portal."

[Merusk]

Good point.  I'd forgotten those.. it's really just a new take on the invisibility mechanics.

Motorcycle mount?

Please dear god tell me that there's a version without a sidecar because I will have to have this mount at any fucking cost.

Nope, there's a Horde and Alliance version, but both have the sidecar.  Engineers make them, but ANYONE can use them.  It's meant to give engineers a useful item to sell. (for once.)

[DraconianOne]

Obviously sidecar was added since this video.



Never mind - I don't care. It's still fucking awesome.

[Fordel]

Both new Sylvanas and Varian bother me for the exact same reason. They're 13 year old boy fantasies. Down right cliche!

[Ingmar]

Yeah, not pleased. I mean, its better than having her not even be the right kind of elf, but come on. Shouldn't the banshee queen... look like a banshee? At least a little?

[K9]

I think she looks pretty damn close to how she looked in WCIII.

e.g.





Varian looks a bit meh I'll agree; I think the Highlord Bolvar model was more appropriate.

[Merusk]

Yeah, not pleased. I mean, its better than having her not even be the right kind of elf, but come on. Shouldn't the banshee queen... look like a banshee? At least a little?

She didn't in WC3, which is what they're basing her off of.  She looked like one of the Elf Archer units, but grey/green.. like she does now.

Ed: Damn you K9 for finding the pic I couldn't while composing the post.

I agree on the King, though.  Too young, to "angry" too fucking Saiyn

[Ingmar]

I'll assume this is in Frozen Throne which I admit I never got that far in. In Warcraft 3 itself, she looks like a banshee.

[K9]

too fucking Saiyn

Bingo

[Sjofn]

While they're making new models they should try a) making a teenager model and b) giving the poor prince his own damn model.

Also, perhaps they could introduce Sylvannas to some shirt technology.

[Fordel]

Also, perhaps they could introduce Sylvannas to some shirt technology.

Sexy, Sexy Danger! 

[Ironwood]

Yeah, not pleased. I mean, its better than having her not even be the right kind of elf, but come on. Shouldn't the banshee queen... look like a banshee? At least a little?

The thing about the banshees in WC3 is they, you know, took over the host body.

So they look exactly like what they take over.  A Night Elf.

The 'current' Sylvanas has always bothered me.  It's WRONG.  The new one is full of Correctly Goodness.

[Lantyssa]

Both new Sylvanas and Varian bother me for the exact same reason. They're 13 year old boy fantasies. Down right cliche!

Sylvanas isn't just for 13 year old boy fantasies.

[Ironwood]

You just can't help yourself, can you, you ungodly wretch ?

Can't we Pray the Gay Away ?

 

[Chimpy]

Buddy of mine found a great thing about the sidecar in a WSG a week or so ago on the Beta.

Riding in the sidecar does not drop the flag!.

He had a screenshot of them riding off the roof to the flag room.

[Merusk]

Oooh that'll get fixed right quick, I guarantee.

[K9]

The motorbike mount and vehicles in general need a lot of balance work.

[Fabricated]

Buddy of mine found a great thing about the sidecar in a WSG a week or so ago on the Beta.

Riding in the sidecar does not drop the flag!.

He had a screenshot of them riding off the roof to the flag room.

How fucking awesome is the image of a motorcycle flying off the top of the base with someone in the sidecar holding the flag?

[Lantyssa]

How fucking awesome is the image of a motorcycle flying off the top of the base with someone in the sidecar holding the flag?

In a fantasy game?  About the silliest thing I can think of.  The only way to make it work is to have a leather wearing dwarf named The Fonz doing it.

[Ratman_tf]

How fucking awesome is the image of a motorcycle flying off the top of the base with someone in the sidecar holding the flag?

In a fantasy game?  About the silliest thing I can think of. 

Hoh Hoh Hoh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_space_hamster

[Ingmar]

How fucking awesome is the image of a motorcycle flying off the top of the base with someone in the sidecar holding the flag?

In a fantasy game?  About the silliest thing I can think of.  The only way to make it work is to have a leather wearing dwarf named The Fonz doing it.

But it has to be jumping over a shark.

[Lantyssa]

The shark was a given.

[DraconianOne]

In a fantasy game?  About the silliest thing I can think of.  The only way to make it work is to have a leather wearing dwarf named The Fonz doing it.

You're right of course. Soon they'll have biplanes, mechanical mounts and an entire race who crashlanded in a spaceship and use holograms to communicate with each other.

[Ingmar]

In a fantasy game?  About the silliest thing I can think of.  The only way to make it work is to have a leather wearing dwarf named The Fonz doing it.

You're right of course. Soon they'll have biplanes, mechanical mounts and an entire race who crashlanded in a spaceship and use holograms to communicate with each other.

Have you seen the way the motorcycle actually *looks*? All that stuff still fits into the look and feel of WoW. The motorcycle with its current art really doesn't, to me. I'm not bothered by the general idea of the motorcycle, but I am bothered by the current implementation. If it had like big goblin rockets sticking off of it and crap, it would bother me a lot less.

[Oban]

I want pistols for my rogue.

[El Gallo]

Some steamtech crap and some pop culture jokes fit within the theme of WoW.  However, too much of that stuff destroys the theme.  A motorcycle with a "PWN" licenseplate that is useable by anybody and looks like that is too much imo.

I mostly agree with Moorgard.  I'd rather play in the world as portrayed in the cinematics (with some jokes and anachronisms as spice) rather than play in an aesthetically incoherent world that's all spice and little theme.    http://www.mobhunter.com/?p=308

[Fabricated]

Some steamtech crap and some pop culture jokes fit within the theme of WoW.  However, too much of that stuff destroys the theme.  A motorcycle with a "PWN" licenseplate that is useable by anybody and looks like that is too much imo.

I mostly agree with Moorgard.  I'd rather play in the world as portrayed in the cinematics (with some jokes and anachronisms as spice) rather than play in an aesthetically incoherent world that's all spice and little theme.    http://www.mobhunter.com/?p=308

Redeemed demons crashing into the planet with gigantic chiming beings of light in a space ship, fantastic and dangerous steampunk gnomish/goblin inventions, zepplins, magical floating cities, and living stones I can deal with, but a motorcycle?

FUCK THAT, IMMERSION RUINED, CANCELING ACCOUNT

[Ingmar]

You're putting words in his mouth there, if you want to reply to the guy who said he accepts all that stuff but hates the motorcycle, it is me. 

[Fordel]

Yes, but you're silly and weird about random things for no good reason.

I Submit: "I hate daily quests, but I'll farm Primal's to sell on the AH instead"

 

[Sjofn]

At least there isn't any Norse housing with corn and pumpkins. 

[Fordel]

Oh how the corn burned him so 

[Lantyssa]

Redeemed demons crashing into the planet with gigantic chiming beings of light in a space ship, fantastic and dangerous steampunk gnomish/goblin inventions, zepplins, magical floating cities, and living stones I can deal with, but a motorcycle?

FUCK THAT, IMMERSION RUINED, CANCELING ACCOUNT

While I only commented on the motorcycles, I'll stand by Ingmar's take.

I've grudgingly accepted the pistols and steampunk of the world.  It was generally portrayed as being shoddy, dangerous, and not nearly as effective as magic.  Mostly it added flavor, but was largely in the background, too.  At least when I played.  The Draenei were a mixed bag.  I hated the space ship, beings of light angle.  I loved (really, really loved) the gypsy-gargoyle look.  There was a lot which was hard to ignore, but I did my best.

The motorcycle is something going to be seen everywhere though.  It's not going to be a funny or dangerous item, it'll be safe, ubiquitous, and it's look makes me think the artists didn't even try.  It's only one thing of many that would annoy me were I playing.  Why they decided to take the worst combination of fantasy and pop-culture I don't know, however it does keep me from returning.

So yeah, my immersion was ruined by them continually pushing the silly.  It made it hard to take any of the decent plot-lines seriously.

[Phred]

I've grudgingly accepted the pistols and steampunk of the world.  It was generally portrayed as being shoddy, dangerous, and not nearly as effective as magic.  Mostly it added flavor, but was largely in the background, too.  At least when I played.  The Draenei were a mixed bag.  I hated the space ship, beings of light angle.  I loved (really, really loved) the gypsy-gargoyle look.  There was a lot which was hard to ignore, but I did my best.

The motorcycle is something going to be seen everywhere though.  It's not going to be a funny or dangerous item, it'll be safe, ubiquitous, and it's look makes me think the artists didn't even try.  It's only one thing of many that would annoy me were I playing.  Why they decided to take the worst combination of fantasy and pop-culture I don't know, however it does keep me from returning.

I guess you've been gone too long to have noticed the helicopters then. The player made/rode ones, not the ones that popped up occasionally in quests.

[Valmorian]

I guess you've been gone too long to have noticed the helicopters then. The player made/rode ones, not the ones that popped up occasionally in quests.

The player helicopters can only be made and used by engineers.  These motorcycles, as I understand it, can be used by anybody.

[Lantyssa]

I guess you've been gone too long to have noticed the helicopters then. The player made/rode ones, not the ones that popped up occasionally in quests.

That would be correct.  I didn't see a whole lot of any flying mounts though (assuming it's one), as I didn't play in Outland much, and haven't been back since.  The Zhevra mount was the first serious consideration I gave it.