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on: May 22, 2008, 08:02:57 AM

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Changes coming for ETC's and Game Time Cards
reported by: CCP Wrangler | 2008.05.22 13:57:19

To simplify the ETC reseller program and attune our product offerings with industry standards, CCP will introduce new 60-day EVE Time Codes (ETC) and Game Time Cards (GTC) for $34.99 USD. These will replace the 30- and 90-day cards that were previously available through authorized resellers and the 50- and 100-day cards sold in the EVE Store. This will affect both online ETC's and Game Time Cards sold in the EVE Online Store. Orders may still be placed for time cards of all increments while supplies last or until the changeover to the new 60-day cards goes into effect on June 15, 2008.

<whine>This ticks me off a little, as the option of playing and training with one character on a different account for the purpose of letting others hibernate while a long skill is training gets to be half as probable because of 30-day cards disappearing. This concerns people who train alts in the background, which serious EVE players do, and I'm suspecting a "Save the 30-day GTC" thread is already up on the official forums (c/d?). I'm sure CCP knows about this trend and has thought up of a way of getting a better margin out of this, since GTCs were the cheapest subscription method with the USD being where it is.</whine>

On a more informative note, 30-day cards are much better since they let you manage your subscription better. I'm sure enough going to stock up on some 30-day GTCs before they run out since I'm seeing myself doing a lot of AFK training during the upcoming months. So if you don't know about it already using this link to buy EVE GTCs is an investment into the F13 Server Donation box!

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Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 08:15:30 AM

c, there are multiple complaint threads all over the place about this, including a "Save the 30-day" one.

Shrug, price hike was bound to happen.  They haven't answered if old codes will still be valid past the cutoff date.  And, I wonder what'll happen to the ISK price for the current stock of GTC's, as well as the new 60 day ones.
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Reply #2 on: May 22, 2008, 08:16:36 AM

It annoys me also as I prefer 90 day cards. Much better value than 30's.
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Reply #3 on: May 22, 2008, 08:29:09 AM

Standardizing the GTC could be the first step in creating a microtransaction system.  I.E GTC could be freely be exchanged with 1000 tokens and tokens could be traded in-game like a ship module.
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Reply #4 on: May 22, 2008, 08:50:02 AM

That works out as a 35% price increase for me, on 3 accounts  ACK!

Time to have a serious think about whether or not EVE's worth subscribing to after my accounts expire.

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Reply #5 on: May 22, 2008, 09:26:57 AM

The thing I'm confused about is, if it's a price hike because of the dollar being weak, then why are they also eliminating 30 and 90 day cards?  They say they are aligning with industry standards, but, um, the rest of the industry offers 30, 60 and 90 day increments.

If they need a price hike, just do a freakin' price hike.  Don't confuse the issue.

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Reply #6 on: May 23, 2008, 05:10:16 AM

First 4 (6?) pages of the GTC sales forum are WTB orders for 30 and 90 day at the old (ISK) prices, but nobody seems to be selling anymore.
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Reply #7 on: May 23, 2008, 07:00:42 AM

Think Ill have to stock up on 90 days before they are all gone!

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Reply #8 on: May 23, 2008, 07:28:07 AM

Sweet - demand up - I need to cash in on some of that  DRILLING AND MANLINESS


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Reply #9 on: May 23, 2008, 08:24:46 AM

90 day cards are now going for 400 mil as fast as people put them up.
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Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 05:49:55 AM

90 day cards are now going for 400 mil as fast as people put them up.

That's what happens when a single 90 day GTC ($38.85 -> 400m) costs the same as three separate 30 day cards ($14.95 -> 160m), but sells for approximately 20% less on a player-driven market.

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Reply #11 on: June 01, 2008, 07:14:31 PM

So, have enough people squeaky-wheeled about this yet to get CCP to undo this rather customer-unfriendly idea?  My fifth point in Drone Interfacing will be done on Friday, and I'll need to decide whether to stock up on 30-days when I reactivate my account.  I'm not super-keen on paying for time spent on training skills that take three weeks or more to complete; being able to start the skill on the last day of a timecard and just fire up a fresh card when the skill is complete is nicely convenient for me.
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Reply #12 on: June 01, 2008, 07:27:50 PM

I'm surprised nobody noticed that this is also effectively raising the "monthly rate" for someone who uses timecards to $17.50/month.  If you used 30-day cards before, it was $15, on 90-day cards it was $13/month.  I wonder if a subscription charge rate increase is on the way, as well, at least for US players.

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Reply #13 on: June 01, 2008, 07:50:09 PM

I'm not sure I understand the whole "set long skill to train then unsubscribe" thing.  Training a long skill doesn't prevent you from actually PLAYING the game, unless you're really in it for the gratification of powering up?
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Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008, 08:07:34 PM

I'm surprised nobody noticed that this is also effectively raising the "monthly rate" for someone who uses timecards to $17.50/month.  If you used 30-day cards before, it was $15, on 90-day cards it was $13/month.  I wonder if a subscription charge rate increase is on the way, as well, at least for US players.

We've noticed, just no point commenting on it.  I look at it as "They don't want to give volume discounts for GTC's."  I can still get $13 / mo if I pay with credit card in 3-month chunks, or whatever.

They've said somewhere (don't have a link) that they aren't increasing the credit-card prices, just the GTC prices.  But who knows.
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Reply #15 on: June 01, 2008, 08:10:42 PM

I'm not sure I understand the whole "set long skill to train then unsubscribe" thing.  Training a long skill doesn't prevent you from actually PLAYING the game, unless you're really in it for the gratification of powering up?

It doesn't prevent me from playing, no; it just makes me resentful of handing them fifteen bucks and only getting a single skill point for that length of time.  It's more an issue of spite than anything else.  The game just feels like I'm standing still when it's in the middle of a long skill, even though I'm still perfectly capable of playing.
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Reply #16 on: June 01, 2008, 08:13:23 PM

You could always use it as a chance to get awesome at PvP
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Reply #17 on: June 02, 2008, 03:13:57 AM

You could always use it as a chance to get awesome at PvP

An even longer chance as well because you're gonna be using a implantless clone rather than your implant loaded main.

That should add another 3-4 days of pvp fun to the skill training time.

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Reply #18 on: June 02, 2008, 08:50:38 AM

'Course, if you die in your implant clone, you get the benefit of the implants as long as you continue training one skill.  So set Titan V and go PvP in your +5 implants!
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