Diablo III Wild Speculation and Rumor Mongering Abounds

[MournelitheCalix]

Isn't a character based around unarmed combat and not using armor pretty much the worst idea for a Diablo class, ever?

I'm not saying it won't be popular, if nothing else then due to the massive weeaboo demographic on the internet, but couldn't they have come up with something a bit more fitting?

No its not I agree in fact with you completely the monk looked pretty silly to me.  The wizard class so far looks o'k, but right now I am not really excited about any of these classes.  Is it true that there is only one more class to be revealed?  I ask because I see no ranged (bow) character.  That archetype of character was one of the mainstays of the series IMHO.

[K9]

You know, for all the thing Blizzard do well, making websites isn't one of them. The Diablo and Starcraft sites, like the WoW armory, are painfully slow and unresponsive compared to more or less anything else on the net.

OT: I think the monk is rather decent; I'm more interested in playing the wizard or barbarian; but I think the mix is decent so far.

[ahoythematey]

Is it true that there is only one more class to be revealed?  I ask because I see no ranged (bow) character.  That archetype of character was one of the mainstays of the series IMHO.

Current speculation is the final class for D3 vanilla will be a ranged fighter similar to the Rogue or Amazon.

[Murgos]

Isn't a character based around unarmed combat and not using armor pretty much the worst idea for a Diablo class, ever?

No its not I agree in fact with you completely the monk looked pretty silly to me.

I'm not seeing this complaint?  Is it that you don't think Blizzard will be able to itemize the Monk class as fully as the other classes?  Because that's just silly.

[Teugeus]

Isn't a character based around unarmed combat and not using armor pretty much the worst idea for a Diablo class, ever?

No its not I agree in fact with you completely the monk looked pretty silly to me.

I'm not seeing this complaint?  Is it that you don't think Blizzard will be able to itemize the Monk class as fully as the other classes?  Because that's just silly.

I'm pretty sure the monk in the trailer wasn't naked and was in fact using a weapon....or did my eyes deceive me ?

[Sophismata]

He was using a weapon (combat staff), and his abilities so far do damage based off of his equipment.

On a more interesting note, Blizz plan to give each class its own, unique, resource. Mana for the Witch Doctor, Fury for the Barbarian, and the other's haven't been designed or revealed yet.

[fnddf2]

Based on what was on their site, it also looks like they are giving the monk fist weapons, like the Assassin had.

[LK]

D3 playable at PAX.

[Draegan]

What Skill Tree?

[Lantyssa]

Tentative 'yay'.

[Shrike]

There'd better be a return of the...mmm...actually, I can't see a rogue character again, but a ranged/bow class is a must have.

The others seen so far aren't exciting me to any degree. Need more concrete info, though, this being Blizz, we won't get it. Not anytime soon.

[Teleku]

Tentative 'yay'.

Tentative 'ditto'.

[Lakov_Sanite]

There'd better be a return of the...mmm...actually, I can't see a rogue character again, but a ranged/bow class is a must have.

The others seen so far aren't exciting me to any degree. Need more concrete info, though, this being Blizz, we won't get it. Not anytime soon.

I was assuming the rogue type would be the ranged user.  Honestly there aren't enough games where rogues use archery(thief being notable exception)

Also I'm completely mezmerized by this talent tree change, I find myself rapt to see what alternatives they can come up with/steal.

[Teleku]

Yeah, lots of possibilities.  Might even be able to spec more than one class as archer even.  Who knows.

[Malakili]

Yeah, lots of possibilities.  Might even be able to spec more than one class as archer even.  Who knows.

Maybe they are learning from Torchlight   

Seriously though, I like how Torchlight did it.  Some common passive skills shared between all classes meant that you could focus any class on anything you chose, if you really wanted to (though they are not all equally viable). 

I also like that in Torchlight you can learn spells (4 spell slots), as any class.

While I imagine Diablo 3 is going to have a deeper/more robust and balanced skill/spell system than Torchlight due to way more development time/iteration, I think they could learn something from the guys at Runic.

[Teleku]

Well, I liked how Torchlight was basically a hybrid between Diablo 1 and 2.  In Diablo 1, everybody could use spells, as everything was just based on stats. 

One of the things I really missed about Diablo 1 was the spell system.  I thought it was awesome that the spells you got in game where just as random as all the weapons.  Start a Wizard and your "build" is pretty much going to be entirely based on what spell drops you get, which will change every time you play.  I kind of wish they could recreate that somehow.  It always made me mad when I started playing Diablo 2 and I'd see a room full of bookshelves and book stands, get a thrill, then realize they all just dropped god damn town portal and identify scrolls. 

Oh how I loved the sight of a bookshelf in Diablo 1 

[Yegolev]

ngh

[waffel]

lol 'liked how torchlight did it'. Did we play the same game? I played the Torchlight where 90% of the skills were boring/worthless. I highly doubt Blizzard learned anything from that. I've seen better skill systems in WC3 custom maps.

[Murgos]

lol 'liked how torchlight did it'. Did we play the same game? I played the Torchlight where 90% of the skills were boring/worthless. I highly doubt Blizzard learned anything from that. I've seen better skill systems in WC3 custom maps.

You know, just because an implementation was poor doesn't mean there wasn't a good idea in it.  Skill tree + slot-able skills is actually a pretty decent and flexible idea.

[Aez]

lol 'liked how torchlight did it'. Did we play the same game? I played the Torchlight where 90% of the skills were boring/worthless. I highly doubt Blizzard learned anything from that. I've seen better skill systems in WC3 custom maps.

We didn't play the same game.

[Malakili]

lol 'liked how torchlight did it'. Did we play the same game? I played the Torchlight where 90% of the skills were boring/worthless. I highly doubt Blizzard learned anything from that. I've seen better skill systems in WC3 custom maps.

Sorry you didn't like the game, now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

[MrHat]

This game isn't even going to beta in 2010.

[Nebu]

This game isn't even going to beta in 2010.

We spend weeks arguing about games that will never be made.  At least this one will come to fruition eventually. 

[JWIV]

Amazon is taunting people with their usual premature pre-order bullshit coupled with a 59.99 price tag on the PC.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00178630A/ref=pe_11480_14361500_emwa_email_title_1

[schild]

I bet you MVC3 comes out before Diablo 3.

And I can't wait. I now have something to be more stoked about. Win for me!

[ahoythematey]

I bet the next Torchilight comes out before Diablo 3.

[Fabricated]

Wouldn't really blow my mind if Blizzard managed to be the company to finally push PC titles to $60 a pop.

[Rendakor]

Gamestop's got Starcraft II preorders at $60 too.

[schild]

Wouldn't really blow my mind if Blizzard managed to be the company to finally push PC titles to $60 a pop.

MW2 was already $60.

Yea, Activision already broke that barrier.

[Teleku]

To be fare, I've been paying about "$50" for brand new computer games since I was a kid.  I figure inflation has to eventually catch up sometime.

[Margalis]

To be fare...

 

[Teleku]

God dammit, I actually had just noticed I misspelled that and went to click on edit, but you had already posted with quotes.   

[Yegolev]

I thought it was a pun.

[schild]

I thought it was a pun.

Funny, I thought he was a princess.

[Ratman_tf]

Well, I liked how Torchlight was basically a hybrid between Diablo 1 and 2.  In Diablo 1, everybody could use spells, as everything was just based on stats. 

One of the things I really missed about Diablo 1 was the spell system.  I thought it was awesome that the spells you got in game where just as random as all the weapons.  Start a Wizard and your "build" is pretty much going to be entirely based on what spell drops you get, which will change every time you play.  I kind of wish they could recreate that somehow.  It always made me mad when I started playing Diablo 2 and I'd see a room full of bookshelves and book stands, get a thrill, then realize they all just dropped god damn town portal and identify scrolls. 

Oh how I loved the sight of a bookshelf in Diablo 1 

Slowpoke reply, but ++.
Playing Desktop Dungeon made me miss the randomness of Rogue, Telenguard and D1 in that respect. I think a Blizz has the deep pockets to tinker around with a more random progression system that doesn't necessarily mean you can be fucked on the first level.