Darkfall "Released"

[Baldrake]

Uhhhhhh.......

I hate to admit that I don't really know how speed hacking works. Can someone give a brief technical explanation? Teh Google is failing me.

[Abelian75]

In general?  Usually player position is handled client-side in MMOs, meaning that the client is responsible for determining where the player is located at any given time.  So typically all speed-hacking is is just manipulating the client so that it moves the player around faster, teleports them, etc.  Now, there should be sanity checks on the server that make sure that what the client is doing makes some sense and take some action if it doesn't.  That's presumably what's missing here, but pretty much any MMO these days you could probably technically DO speed hacking/teleporting, it would just get detected really quickly (hopefully).

Edit:  Oh, and the reason you do movement client-side is so that the game isn't horribly unresponsive.  You could verify all movement through the server, but for a fluid experience that's really not a great option.

[Baldrake]

Keen and Graev are serving up teh drama about alleged GM interference in raids.

[Mrbloodworth]

Looks like everyone is getting charged a second time for the full price of the game.

Those that bought it, check your accounts.

[HaemishM]

Epic.

[Draegan]

I told you people not to trust this company with your credit card.   

Notice how long it took you to actually give them your money for the game, how long do you think it'll take before you can get it back from an erroneous charge?

[Segoris]

Fuck those carebears that only want to pay once 

[gryeyes]

Notice how long it took you to actually give them your money for the game, how long do you think it'll take before you can get it back from an erroneous charge?

Instantly if you contact your CC company and dispute the charge.

[WayAbvPar]

Looks like everyone is getting charged a second time for the full price of the game.

Those that bought it, check your accounts.

Working as intended.

[Draegan]

Notice how long it took you to actually give them your money for the game, how long do you think it'll take before you can get it back from an erroneous charge?

Instantly if you contact your CC company and dispute the charge.

Reality doesn't belong in this thread.  Shhhh.

[Falconeer]

I heard the shop will re-open next monday 4pm GMT. If that is confirmed the game will be publicly available to everyone in 3 days. Do you have enough popcorn in your house?

[Mrbloodworth]

I heard the shop will re-open next monday 4pm GMT. If that is confirmed the game will be publicly available to everyone in 3 days. Do you have enough popcorn in your house?

They open the shop in bursts...I suspect...to replace canceled accounts.

All though, from a pure "PvP huge battle perspective", I have seen some rather cool stuff, but the bad for me outweighs the good.

[LC]

I'm still having fun.

[WayAbvPar]

Spoken like someone whose credit card bill has yet to arrive.

[LC]

Spoken like someone whose credit card bill has yet to arrive.

I checked the bank and there was no charge even though I got the notice.

[WindupAtheist]

That kid I met in UO who was all "Darkfall will change the world!!!" has already stopped playing.

[LC]

Did he give a reason? We had 2 people quit because they got pked while gathering.

[Bzalthek]

I'd really like to hear from these people.  I love reading the aftermath.  There's something special about the moment people realize they had no idea what the hell they were talking about.

[Soln]

these guys are totally hardcore

[Ashamanchill]

My roomate had this game from launch date (minus two days of massive problems subbing and launching).  He finished with it about two weeks ago.  It's pretty repetetive from what I saw.  To his credit, at least he wasn't one of those deluded tools screaming about the paradigm shift in all our lives this game was going to bring, he just likes watching car wrecks from the passenger seat as opposed to the curb.

[WindupAtheist]

Did he give a reason? We had 2 people quit because they got pked while gathering.

"It was boring."

[LC]

"It was boring."

Wish I could hear how he spent his time playing. It's nonstop action at our hamlet. We have Murder Herd Dusk living in the city to our south. The Mercs, Rainbow Ninjas, and Sov live to our North. Both groups dislike us.

A lot of clans on the islands have combined to form MegaZergs. It's possible he joined on of those. Their existence is pretty boring because they have no enemies nearby. I went to the southwest continent last week to do some research for my map. I got at least 8 tells after I was spotted. They wanted peace with me, and said I was free to use their cities. I can't imagine their members are having much fun while standing around with nothing to do.

[WindupAtheist]

Developers release Lord of the Flies simulation. Players manage to behave themselves anyway, discover there's no content, quit. Irony.

[cmlancas]

Clearly there isn't enough corp por in this Lord of the Flies sim.

[Zzulo]

I'd play an actual lord of the flies MMO

Just put tons of people on an archipelago and see what happens

[DLRiley]

I think is something along the lines of people will take the shortest root to removing competition if the game doesn't know the difference between a pk'er and a pvp'er. The megazerg is pretty much something anyone who played these types of games already know will eventually happen. The fun is usually kicking the shit out of the groups dumb enough not to be in the megazerg. Of course if there isn't enough people in your game, and a megazerg forms..... This is what you get when people think its smart decision to consider players content in and of itself.

[cmlancas]

This is what you get when people think its smart decision to consider players content in and of itself.

Wat? 

[Falconeer]

Tonight it'll be possible to buy Darkfall for everyone, or so they say.
Out of completism I was going to buy it but then again I took a look at some DF forums.

Apparently, cheats, hacks and exploits are totally out of control. No one is even trying to deny it, the best fanbois can do is try to convince the quitters that "it's not that bad... not lilke everyone is doing it, after all". But what scared the videojesus out of me is the notion that some Russian guilds have such cheats and hacks AS A REQUIREMENT to be invited to the guild.

And it's a free loot PvP game.

I am torn between keeping my 50$ and have a nice dinner in Tasos' memory, and paying to see the epic clusterfuck from the inside. A case of digital war journalism.

[Azaroth]

The only thing I'm torn between is the desire to never give these people a single cent and the desire to be able to publicly berate the game (with screenshots).

[Hindenburg]

I am torn between keeping my 50$ and have a nice dinner in Tasos' memory, and paying to see the epic clusterfuck from the inside. A case of digital war journalism.

If you're that desperate to burn 50usd, might as well buy an european AoC account for me. We'll have magic pvp pony adventures together. 
/beg

[Falconeer]

Actually, I have an open and paid EU Age of Conan account. I got it to level up my ranger but so far it is stuck at 40. If you feel like it you can use it for a while, leveling up the ranger, ganking, or making your own character from scratch, anything you like.

Only drawback, one day I'll take it back. But right now it'll be free for you to borrow it.

[ashrik]

Tonight it'll be possible to buy Darkfall for everyone, or so they say.
Out of completism I was going to buy it but then again I took a look at some DF forums.

Apparently, cheats, hacks and exploits are totally out of control. No one is even trying to deny it, the best fanbois can do is try to convince the quitters that "it's not that bad... not lilke everyone is doing it, after all". But what scared the videojesus out of me is the notion that some Russian guilds have such cheats and hacks AS A REQUIREMENT to be invited to the guild.

And it's a free loot PvP game.

I am torn between keeping my 50$ and have a nice dinner in Tasos' memory, and paying to see the epic clusterfuck from the inside. A case of digital war journalism.

From my experiences, the fanbois are closer to the truth of the matter. I'm curious about these Russian guilds though, as I haven't heard of a single one- hack requirements or no.

[tmp]

From my experiences, the fanbois are closer to the truth of the matter.

So you mean it's not that bad because not everyone is doing it?

[ashrik]

I haven't seen a speedhacker in about 2 weeks. All exploits I know of, save one, have been fixed. Things like the acid-grinded rigor have had a fairly minimal result. Just about everyone I know macro's, likely to maintain what little remains of their sanity. I hear all the hubbub about these hackers, codecrackers, slackers (WHAT?) but I just don't see it in-game. Much more concerned about this GM stuff but I doubt we'll ever see it resolved, or even addressed directly.

[schild]

Falconeer,

Given my current economical state, if you spend $50 on goddamn Darkfall and I somehow get back on my feet and get to Italy, before any drinking is done, I will pop you right in the kisser. POW.