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Arthur_Parker
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Reply #1470 on: February 19, 2009, 02:37:02 PM

You wouldn't even be thinking about the subject if they had coded it correctly, was my sole point.
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Reply #1471 on: February 19, 2009, 02:41:09 PM

Given that innovation is sorely lacking in the industry at the moment, it's ironic that flaws like this give me some hope that maybe some new ideas will surface because of garage games.  Not being able to instantly talk to everyone, all at the same time, kinda makes sense on a Fantasy battlefield.  Command, control, communication and all that.
The 'race alliance' channel sounds pretty much like what global channel is in any post-WoW game with PvP factions. No innovation there.
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Reply #1472 on: February 19, 2009, 02:47:07 PM

I didn't say Darkfall was in any way innovative, I just think dumb mistakes can spark innovation.  Being limited to one chat channel is stupid, but it can make the channel you choose to have open important.
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Reply #1473 on: February 19, 2009, 05:14:31 PM

I didn't say Darkfall was in any way innovative, I just think dumb mistakes can spark innovation.  Being limited to one chat channel is stupid, but it can make the channel you choose to have open important.
Hmm i thought they meant it in the sense each channel is on its own tab, so you can only see one of them at once on your screen without tabbing through them, rather than really have only one of them ever working at any time.
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Reply #1474 on: February 19, 2009, 06:16:30 PM

I'm working hard to give them my money. I've refreshed their preorder page about 5000 times now. Some guy on the beta forums is claiming that his friend finally registered and was given the user id 3204.
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Reply #1475 on: February 19, 2009, 08:04:15 PM

For everyone that is trying to pre-order I have a better offer for you.  PM me with your bank information and I'll show you how to earn at least 5,000 local currency units a month at home just by using ebay.
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Reply #1476 on: February 19, 2009, 08:30:46 PM


Apparently this is the game on its highest settings..... Not to bad, player model is a little funky, and the draw distance looks rather dated. But the best part? Look at the chat, and ping.
I think the best part is, it's 2009 and this game cannot cope with widescreen resolutions -- that's why everything is horizontally stretched and why the player character looks the way it does.  awesome, for real

If I'm following you correctly that's deliberate. They ddin't want wide screens to get an advantage over other people in terms of spotting people performing stealth tactics.

OP is assuming its somewhat of a design-goal of eve to make players happy.
this is however not the case.
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Reply #1477 on: February 19, 2009, 08:57:58 PM


Apparently this is the game on its highest settings..... Not to bad, player model is a little funky, and the draw distance looks rather dated. But the best part? Look at the chat, and ping.
I think the best part is, it's 2009 and this game cannot cope with widescreen resolutions -- that's why everything is horizontally stretched and why the player character looks the way it does.  awesome, for real

If I'm following you correctly that's deliberate. They ddin't want wide screens to get an advantage over other people in terms of spotting people performing stealth tactics.

Works just fine on my wide screen monitor. I have no idea where this one came from.
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Reply #1478 on: February 20, 2009, 12:59:13 AM

I'm really getting tired of hearing how every potential negative of this game is actually a master bid by the pro chess playing developers in order to get us all to fit into their master plan.

How about this- They didn't make widescreen support because they didn't make widescreen support. Not because they think stopping players from approaching from direct right-angles helps the stealth game. Besides, isn't stealth too carebear for you hardXcore fuckers anyways?

Edit: Or wide screen support works fine. HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT
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Reply #1479 on: February 20, 2009, 04:15:03 AM

Works just fine on my wide screen monitor. I have no idea where this one came from.
It was mentioned in the earlier beta leaks. As in, the display aspect ratio was fixed at 1.33:1 that's suitable for the regular resolutions, while for widescreen resolutions it should rather be 1.6:1. You can see this effect on some screenshots and videos, mostly in form of unnaturally stocky characters. I suppose it can be less noticeable on some races, or maybe they fixed it by now... but do a little experiment, rescale that 'spoiler' picture from a page back to 1400x1050 so the 1.33 -> 1.6 stretch is removed, and see if that female lumberjack in the centre of it doesn't appear more natural.
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Reply #1480 on: February 20, 2009, 11:02:02 AM

Apparently, the pre-orders are for beta testers only, HOWEVER some beta tester posted the page, and now they are getting flooded. We wont even talk about the fake sites offering a pre-order and taking CC numbers.

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Reply #1481 on: February 20, 2009, 11:25:41 AM

You can already get one on eBay!

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Reply #1482 on: February 20, 2009, 11:27:55 AM

Apparently google will take you to the beta testers only pre-order page.

Please tell me no one here gave them money, please?

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Reply #1483 on: February 20, 2009, 11:28:48 AM

The idea of artificially tiering people with a staggered release in an FFA PvP MMOG is just  swamp poop.  Or maybe it's  awesome, for real.  With a hint of  why so serious?.

It should add to the enjoyment of reading forums though, when new players finally make it into the game, only to find the newbie zones camped by jackasses with maxed out stats, and not much else to do.
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Reply #1484 on: February 20, 2009, 11:35:13 AM

The idea of artificially tiering people with a staggered release in an FFA PvP MMOG is just  swamp poop.  Or maybe it's  awesome, for real.  With a hint of  why so serious?.

It should add to the enjoyment of reading forums though, when new players finally make it into the game, only to find the newbie zones camped by jackasses with maxed out stats, and not much else to do.

Actually, a friend of mine who spent time looking into DFO pointed me to a post in which a beta tester said that the several starter characters could work together to take out a higher skilled player. 

Actually I have a questio for beta testers: is there any way, on sight, to determine if someone is "higher level" (for lack of a better term)?
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Reply #1485 on: February 20, 2009, 11:44:31 AM

None at all until they start to DO something.  If they start casting magic or using some higher-skill melee abilities then you have some clue.  But, We had people logging on day 1 and heading to dungeons with us and getting geared out in hours.  So, gear cannot tell you much about who you are facing.  It is also pretty hard to tell anything by melee... I would say that only casters can truly separate themselves visually by the types of spells they cast.
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Reply #1486 on: February 20, 2009, 12:00:51 PM

The beta servers have been down since the preorder page went up. I will check on the AR stuff if it ever comes back up.
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Reply #1487 on: February 20, 2009, 12:09:38 PM

The idea of artificially tiering people with a staggered release in an FFA PvP MMOG is just  swamp poop.  Or maybe it's  awesome, for real.  With a hint of  why so serious?.

It should add to the enjoyment of reading forums though, when new players finally make it into the game, only to find the newbie zones camped by jackasses with maxed out stats, and not much else to do.

Actually, a friend of mine who spent time looking into DFO pointed me to a post in which a beta tester said that the several starter characters could work together to take out a higher skilled player. 

Actually I have a questio for beta testers: is there any way, on sight, to determine if someone is "higher level" (for lack of a better term)?

Hah.  If UO taught me one thing, it's this:

Anyone who suggests you work with them to take out someone is actually working with the other guy.
Anyone who suggests a mass of people solidify to take out someone else will be the one to recall/run first.

So your idea of "people work together to take down a higher level players" works fine if a group of friends plays together, and from what I remember of my UO days, sometimes not even then.  (I specifically remember murdering a guildmate for getting out of dodge while leaving the rest of us high and dry, while the rest of the guild cheered me on.)  Expecting random players to simply coalesce as a force to take down a "high level" pk looks great on paper, but is very rarely the reality in these games.
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Reply #1488 on: February 20, 2009, 12:14:46 PM

That thought was in the back of my mind when I wrote that post, trying to get a bunch of newbies to work together to take out the school bully will be an exercise in frustration for many.

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Reply #1489 on: February 20, 2009, 12:40:16 PM

Not the bully!  awesome, for real

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Reply #1490 on: February 20, 2009, 12:41:56 PM

Won't someone think of the bullies!
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Reply #1491 on: February 20, 2009, 12:46:42 PM



There's no demotivational posters for internet bullies, so this is the best I could come up with lack a better response.

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Reply #1492 on: February 20, 2009, 01:03:59 PM




 awesome, for real awesome, for real awesome, for real

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Reply #1493 on: February 21, 2009, 10:12:24 AM

The last two posted pictures are true win.  awesome, for real

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Reply #1494 on: February 21, 2009, 01:21:14 PM

"Which martial art should you claim to have mastered?"

Priceless.

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Reply #1495 on: February 21, 2009, 01:23:04 PM

"Which Martial Art should you claim to have mastered?"

Win.

(always go Capoeira. Most people need to look it up  awesome, for real)

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Reply #1496 on: February 21, 2009, 02:08:17 PM

"Which Martial Art should you claim to have mastered?"

Win.

(always go Capoeira. Most people need to look it up  awesome, for real)

Fastedit: Nebu beat me to it!
Isn't Capoeria the one that looks sort of like a combination of dance, martial arts, and acrobatics? The one they used for the Jaffa on Stargate SG-1?
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Reply #1497 on: February 21, 2009, 02:13:35 PM

Maybe. I never watched Stargate. Your description is apt though. Like many unique styles (unique in that it's not the usual Karate nor Taekwondo subset), it got it's own movie. Some opponents in various Van Damme self-knockoffs used it too.
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Reply #1498 on: February 21, 2009, 02:32:28 PM

Eddie from Tekken uses Capoeira, doesn't he?

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Reply #1499 on: February 21, 2009, 02:44:48 PM

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Reply #1500 on: February 21, 2009, 04:06:12 PM

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Reply #1501 on: February 21, 2009, 05:05:35 PM

That looked like ass.
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Reply #1502 on: February 21, 2009, 05:11:42 PM

Eddie from Tekken uses Capoeira, doesn't he?

Yeah he does.
And I would go for Krav Maga.
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Reply #1503 on: February 21, 2009, 06:25:29 PM

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=136218

Darkfall not hardcore enough for its audience.
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Reply #1504 on: February 21, 2009, 08:28:05 PM

Seems like most of the vocal ones there are not even in the Beta.

The forums are very busy there at least. Not seen anything worth reading, but they sure do like to talk a lot there.
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