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[Endie]

Two things to bear in mind when skim-reading Jade's tediously lengthy posts:

1 - During a period when massive amounts of 0.0 space have changed hands (almost everywhere except Stain, Delve and RA's home system), Jade's attempts ("hay guyz let's get scores of stealth bombers and blow up a dread!") have, for years, failed.  Thus, his interest in making 0.0 alliances somehow more vulnerable are not born of benign disinterest.

He's right about the problem: smaller, younger alliances are locked out of heaven.  I prefer the idea of making more conquerable space.  But then I don't nurse a grudge against CVA a mile wide.

2 - He and his friends metagame like the Mittani only dreams of, so all the holier-than-thou stuff about goons is a touch rich (goons help out CVA a lot, though, so they are bad metagamers, not good roleplayers).  Coincidentally, one of their usual targets is Aegis Militia.  His presence here is therefore probably not coincidental, as Hakel will doubtless have filled him in on this as well as unleashing him on us (thanks a fucking bunch).  Last time it was the theft of a bunch of POSes, bpos, cash etc by a person - one of Jade's underlings - who spent the better part of a year befriending some of the AM guys, gaining their trust etc.  I, of course, am in a weak position to judge anyone on this, but it's worth bearing in mind (as in lock up your BPOs, don't grant tower rights to anyone but established posters etc).

I could tell that this transvestite was a CAOD faggot by the sudden emergence of walls of text, before even looking at the username. And I didn't even play or browse the damn forums for over a year.

Jade was banned for a lot of that time anyway.

[Amarr HM]

Firstly yes makes some sense to allow self destruction but it should have timer (24 hour or whatever length of time it takes to regain sov) to allow the defenders time to recoup their loss if they are capable and average pilots time to collect their goods. Goods not collected can be salvaged from wreckage perhaps. That is if this ever gets implemented so no point in getting deep into it unless CCP show any signs of vetoing such an idea.

Yes I gathered that you were ambivalent to the subject of Empire loot, I was just curious why these were top discussions (as opposed to things I deem more important :P ) are CCP asking you to push certain things or are these things you feel should be dealt with first? I believe first thing that should be looked at is the bounty system Im sure a majority would be interested in this.

Note: I don't think previous altercations should stop Jade being allowed a soapbox here but also people should also be aware of her associations.

[Sparky]

Once nice idea I've heard for moving away from POS warfare would be awarding sov to whichever alliance actually uses the space most.  You'd get a rolling total of points for NPCing, mining, exploration, production and so forth but mostly weighted to PVP and after a certain threshold + whatever the other guy had "Grats it's yours".  This would give defenders the advantage as they'd have points built up from using the space but because of the PVP weighting it'd be far from insurmountable.  Of course you'd be able to transfer your points to any alliance to allow for tendency arrangements.

It's probably unworkable and full of exploits but, hell, anything to get away from fucking POS warfare.

[Merusk]

That hardcore Eve players continue to call wow players catasses who are way too into their game still amuses and horrifies me.

Good god, go get laid. Or drunk.   You're investing way too much time in a video game.

[Sparky]

That hardcore Eve players continue to call wow players catasses who are way too into their game still amuses and horrifies me.

Good god, go get laid. Or drunk.   You're investing way too much time in a video game.

Says the guy with 5000 posts!

/em runs from the thread in a flood of tears

[Endie]

Firstly yes makes some sense to allow self destruction but it should have timer (24 hour or whatever length of time it takes to regain sov) to allow the defenders time to recoup their loss if they are capable and average pilots time to collect their goods. Goods not collected can be salvaged from wreckage perhaps. That is if this ever gets implemented so no point in getting deep into it unless CCP show any signs of vetoing such an idea.

You've never been in an alliance where an outpost has been lost.  You don't get lots of your stuff out, since the system is hostile by then, so you end up with masive firesales.  It doesn't matter about blowing up: just the siezure of an outpost is sufficient to see massive riches locked up inside.  When GF took one of the Querious stations a single Bob hangar had 30 bill of fuel and T2 production materials in it.  Almost everyone in the south has stuff locked up in enemy outposts.  Outposts already have risk, your enemy just needs to have the allies, the strategy and the will to take it from you.

[MahrinSkel]

That hardcore Eve players continue to call wow players catasses who are way too into their game still amuses and horrifies me.

Good god, go get laid. Or drunk.   You're investing way too much time in a video game.

Damn, Sparky beat me to it.

Anyway, hardcore Eve players are what hardcore "Metaverse" Second Life players aspire to be (without the furries in the mix).  They play at creating a government and society and tell themselves that they're creating the 3D web and will replace every inferior form.  Eve players just create an actual functioning system of governance without worrying about trying to replace anything.  Second Life is full of LARP'ers, Eve is just gamers trying to win in a PvP game where social structure is as important as every other means of putting guns on the target.

The "CSM" thing I'm not so sold on.  At a minimum, it could be a democratic replacement for the Team Lead program I started at Mythic (which got copied, with varying degrees of success, all over the place).  It might even be able to grow into a working democratic system for prioritizing future development.

As for taking it too seriously: What the hell, it beats television.  Clay Shirky is currently pushing a meme about "cognitive surplus", just as BOINC or SETI@Home can make use of CPU cycles that otherwise would do nothing, social networks and Wikipedia and online games make use of human brainpower that would otherwise be wasted staring at re-runs.  Who knows what wonders that much distilled concentration could produce, even by accident.  Of course, the chances that Eve is going to produce the sociological equivalent of the cure for cancer is about as remote as it coming from my personal Rosetta@Home installation.  But what the hell, everybody needs a hobby.  In the meantime, it's producing more *new* information about how to design online games than all the boiler-plate-fantasy games put together.

--Dave

EDIT: Endie's right.  I've still got about 3B worth of stuff stuck in Z-UZZN, not to mention that I owned about 4B worth of that station.

[Amarr HM]

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Yeh I know hehe. I think the idea of something being indestrucitble is a bit odd to me & Endie just cause you have invested more time and energy in a game and have more invested in the world of outposts doesn't invalidate my opinion. But as I said I don't see CCP vetoing this idea never really did so I take it with a pinch of salt. Lets talk about bounties or something less hypothetical that CSM could work towards.

[Jade Constantine]

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[Phildo]

I think I've read about 80% of what's been posted since Jade showed up.  Here's my thought:

Ask Ushra'Khan how reclaiming their outposts is going.

[Jade Constantine]

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[MahrinSkel]

DANGER WILL ROBINSON, DANGER!  If you let in-game politics take control of the CSM agenda, the whole thing will go down in a huge stinking fireball.  If people feel that a particular faction of in-game power has taken control of the development agenda, the shit will hit the fan, bigtime.  Just having personal connections between BoB and CCP that was perceived, rightly or wrongly, as letting BoB inject politcally/strategically motivated changes into patches was a major catalyzation point in the anti-BoB coalition's formation and a huge PR nightmare for CCP, if people perceive that the CSM is recommanding changes because they are to the advantage of the factions represented in the CSM, it will be 10 times worse.  Because this isn't through the back door social networking corruption, this would have the official CCP imprimatur of legitimacy.

The CSM is an asset to the game and to CCP only to the extent that it is seen as an impartial feedback mechanism dedicated to the improvement of the game for all players.

--Dave

[Jade Constantine]

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[Jade Constantine]

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[MahrinSkel]

To be honest, whoever got elected would be accusations of this I suspect. Best we can do to mitigate the fears is be as open as possible I think. My own election campaign was ALL about telling the voters which way I'd be voting on a whole range of issues if I got elected and I'm going to be doing just that. But its going to take at least 4 other csms to get these things on the formal agenda for Iceland, and even that doesn't guarantee this stuff will happen - the ideas need to be good ideas and be workable within the framework of Eve online. But at some point you do need to accept that I got elected on a manifesto of dynamism and improvement for pvp wars in Eve online and that manifesto included increased risk in 0.0 warfare and destructible outposts. It would be unfair to the people who voted for me if I didn't advocate those elements of the agenda I promised to advocate in this process so I'll be doing my best to convince people to make these things happen.

My point was that you should keep in-game politics *far* away from your justifications for a change.  Everything you advocate is going to be viewed through that filter by the uncharitable, yes.  But if the ordinary Eve player decides that the CSM is in the pocket of a particular faction, it will lose legitimacy.

If you find yourself in a consistant pattern of 5-4 votes, with the same 5 and 4, you're on your way to destruction no matter how pure your motives.

--Dave

[Phildo]

Knowing what we know about Eve, and hearing what we've already heard, I find it hard to believe there ISN'T a bias.  You guys are going to have to work hard to prove that there isn't one, especially to those of us with some knowledge of Eve behind-the-scenes.  I've only been playing a few months, but I've invested a lot of time into the game and as much as I'd like to trust the CSMs, I'm not there yet.  Politics in space is still politics, until it's proven otherwise.

[eldaec]

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[Calantus]

I could tell that this transvestite was a CAOD faggot by the sudden emergence of walls of text, before even looking at the username. And I didn't even play or browse the damn forums for over a year.

Seriously, I don't usually get all TL:DR on this forum but Jesus that was some long and tedious reading before I gave up after the second paragraph in his first post.

[Merusk]

That hardcore Eve players continue to call wow players catasses who are way too into their game still amuses and horrifies me.

Good god, go get laid. Or drunk.   You're investing way too much time in a video game.

Says the guy with 5000 posts!

/em runs from the thread in a flood of tears

5k posts over 4 years.  Yeah, I'm really hitting the board hard.  Those 4 posts a day take HOURS.  This one alone took me about 6. 

Damn, Sparky beat me to it.

Anyway, hardcore Eve players are what hardcore "Metaverse" Second Life players aspire to be (without the furries in the mix).  They play at creating a government and society and tell themselves that they're creating the 3D web and will replace every inferior form.  Eve players just create an actual functioning system of governance without worrying about trying to replace anything.  Second Life is full of LARP'ers, Eve is just gamers trying to win in a PvP game where social structure is as important as every other means of putting guns on the target.

The "CSM" thing I'm not so sold on.  At a minimum, it could be a democratic replacement for the Team Lead program I started at Mythic (which got copied, with varying degrees of success, all over the place).  It might even be able to grow into a working democratic system for prioritizing future development.

As for taking it too seriously: What the hell, it beats television.  Clay Shirky is currently pushing a meme about "cognitive surplus", just as BOINC or SETI@Home can make use of CPU cycles that otherwise would do nothing, social networks and Wikipedia and online games make use of human brainpower that would otherwise be wasted staring at re-runs.  Who knows what wonders that much distilled concentration could produce, even by accident.  Of course, the chances that Eve is going to produce the sociological equivalent of the cure for cancer is about as remote as it coming from my personal Rosetta@Home installation.  But what the hell, everybody needs a hobby.  In the meantime, it's producing more *new* information about how to design online games than all the boiler-plate-fantasy games put together.

Beat you to what?  Saying, ha ha you're posting on a board? Pft.  It's not the 'taking it too seriously' that I'm amused with.  Yes, it's better than TV.  If it weren't I wouldn't be here or playing games, I'd be watching TV like normal folks.  I wouldn't have played the MMOs I have over the years and would instead, perhaps, understand the fascination with American Idol or Desperate Housewives.  At least I'd be able to have a conversation with my coworkers about it instead of saying, "why would anyone watch that shit?"

No, it's none of that.  It's the superior attitude.   It amuses and befuddles me at the same time.  Even more than the Second Life crazy who was posting over on Lum's blog for a bit.   See, THEY are making money - real money - for their time spent.  Those are the SL obsessive you chose to ignore up above. They aren't deluding themselves into thinking they're anything more than a collection of geeks playing with computer spaceships.  I can understand a SL catass's obsessive behavior so much more than I ever could an EVE or WoW catasses'.   One of the latter is not better than the other.. they're both frittering large chunks of their lives and their time to combat boredom.  Yet somehow it becomes a huge integrated part of one's life. 

Really, I want to see what happens to folks THIS into a game when it finally shuts down.  It won't happen for a long time, but I hope some Phd candidates in psychology are following it when it does.

[gimpyone]

Who is next?  Sirmolle or DB Preacher?
-dbp

[Jade Constantine]

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[Jade Constantine]

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[Phildo]

It's just that it's often hard to distinguish "good for the game" and "good for me/my corp/my alliance."  But I like the open chat log idea.  Where can I sign the petition?

[Jade Constantine]

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[MahrinSkel]

No, it's none of that.  It's the superior attitude.   It amuses and befuddles me at the same time.  Even more than the Second Life crazy who was posting over on Lum's blog for a bit.   See, THEY are making money - real money - for their time spent.  Those are the SL obsessive you chose to ignore up above. They aren't deluding themselves into thinking they're anything more than a collection of geeks playing with computer spaceships.  I can understand a SL catass's obsessive behavior so much more than I ever could an EVE or WoW catasses'.   One of the latter is not better than the other.. they're both frittering large chunks of their lives and their time to combat boredom.  Yet somehow it becomes a huge integrated part of one's life. 

Why do people play at any amateur sport?  All over the country, amateur softball, darts, and bowling leagues continue to operate, not too long ago they were thriving.  It's all just games, right?  Except "the guys are counting on me."  So you set the alarm clock, load up on the Mountain Dew, and log in at 5am to run your internet spaceship to save your internet space station so you don't let your internet buddies down.  Because in the end, it's the buddies that count.

As for SL catasses making money: Maybe a couple of dozen people are making more money than they could by knitting sweaters and selling them on eBay.  A few dozen more are making money by selling professional services building islands to real life companies that buy into Linden Labs "We're going to replace the Internet" pitch.  Compare to the hundreds, maybe thousands, of gold farmers making their living in WoW.

--Dave

[Jade Constantine]

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[Yoru]

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[Endie]

1 - During a period when massive amounts of 0.0 space have changed hands (almost everywhere except Stain, Delve and RA's home system), Jade's attempts ("hay guyz let's get scores of stealth bombers and blow up a dread!") have, for years, failed.  Thus, his interest in making 0.0 alliances somehow more vulnerable are not born of benign disinterest.

Something to bare in mind went reading Endie's posts is I suspect he doesn't realize that in game I play a character with absolutely no interest in holding territory and our alliance play for pvp thrills rather than sim-city style stuff - hence bitterness about not being able to hold space misses the mark by a fairly wide degree.

2 - He and his friends metagame like the Mittani only dreams of, so all the holier-than-thou stuff about goons is a touch rich (goons help out CVA a lot, though, so they are bad metagamers, not good roleplayers).  Coincidentally, one of their usual targets is Aegis Militia.

This is actually a fairly common falsehood. We had nothing to do with the Aegis Militia corp theft though its suits some to try to pretend we did. Ah well, such is eve politics.

His presence here is therefore probably not coincidental, as Hakel will doubtless have filled him in on this as well as unleashing him on us (thanks a fucking bunch).  Last time it was the theft of a bunch of POSes, bpos, cash etc by a person - one of Jade's underlings - who spent the better part of a year befriending some of the AM guys, gaining their trust etc.  I, of course, am in a weak position to judge anyone on this, but it's worth bearing in mind (as in lock up your BPOs, don't grant tower rights to anyone but established posters etc).

As I said, this is a false. I don't know who Endie's eve character is but he knows a lot of less about the politics on the live server than he pretends to. Anybody who cares to discover the truth of this issue would be advised to have a word with the Stimulus leadership in game. The cause of the break with Star Fraction was partially down to those guys wanting to use corp theft against war-enemies while we in SF decided that wasn't a path we wanted to go down. STIM would be very happy to explain that to anyone who asks them.
 

The corp thief is still part of Stimulus.  Stimulus is still part of Star Fraction.  There is a way in which you can construct Jade's post so that it is true, but it's tortuous to do so.  People should draw their own conclusions about the veracity of the rest of his conclusions from that.  Like I said, I'm in no position to judge and it's not like I was impacted by the situation, which was just something I saw happen (in detail).  Like Jade says, he is about the only person here who doesn't know who my characters are, and therefore has made the serious mistake of saying "hohoho stupid little Endie" when my knowledge of what happened came from watching it from two extremely well-informed (and mutually antagonistic) viewpoints.  Everyone here (except Jade) knows what at least one of those was.

As regards Jade's "I have no interest in holding 0.0 territory" this is, yet again, an example of his CAOD posting style.  It's literally true, but ignores the fact that he does want to be able to take (even if only to dispose of) 0.0 space.  So he doesn't mention that what i referred to was that half of Eve was chuckling at his attempts in -7- space in Providence, in KBP7-G, to take a system, while CVA was distracted by a Tri invasion.  The conventional approach didn't work so well (we joined in for a bit and I got 17 kills, one a carrier, from his non-existent, not-wanting that 0.0 space anyway campaign) so he tried stealth bombers.  At least some goons thought that was funny enough to be a good laugh.

And Jade, don't be such a condescending, fatuous fool.  This is not CAOD: despite your protestations, you've clearly not read around to discover what the point and nature of F13 actually is.  There is a massive amount of experience in 0.0 politics here, and if I go saying something that's bollocks then LC, JoeTF or others will very quickly jump on it and correct me, just as people are mocking the bits you're used to getting away with saying on Eve-O.

Why not stop insulting long-term board members here like TripleDES (if you think people will side with you because of what he wrote you're misreading the culture here again) and do your job: consult with (not lecture) the eve community and pass their concerns on to CCP like a good representative?

[Calantus]

I wouldn't hold your breath Endie. The smart money is on him having ran for CSM more for the larger soapbox to push his views and the illusion of power than to actually be a good representative.

[Simond]

1 - During a period when massive amounts of 0.0 space have changed hands (almost everywhere except Stain, Delve and RA's home system), Jade's attempts ("hay guyz let's get scores of stealth bombers and blow up a dread!") have, for years, failed.  Thus, his interest in making 0.0 alliances somehow more vulnerable are not born of benign disinterest.

Something to bare in mind went reading Endie's posts is I suspect he doesn't realize that in game I play a character with absolutely no interest in holding territory and our alliance play for pvp thrills rather than sim-city style stuff - hence bitterness about not being able to hold space misses the mark by a fairly wide degree.

"Freed from the shackles of territorial ownership, our PvP roaming gangs shall now hurf de blurf durf!"
You do realise that every single 0.0 alliance that is either not good enough to hold space in the first place or lost their space says pretty much the same thing, right?

[Jade Constantine]

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[Jade Constantine]

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[lac]

 

This has probably come up somewhere before but wouldn't destructible outposts mean it would be a lot harder for small alliances to get established in 0.0?
The powerhouses would be freed from large scale pos operations to deny station access, they could just hop around the galaxy and capblob the stations of any alliance that isn't part of one of the large naps.

[Calantus]

I wouldn't hold your breath Endie. The smart money is on him having ran for CSM more for the larger soapbox to push his views and the illusion of power than to actually be a good representative.

I assure you I have every intention of being the very best representative I can be for those players that voted for my manifesto and want the kind of Eve I talked about there. I stood for election by honestly talking about the issues I'd like to push, and illustrating the voting preferences I'd be choosing. It would be absolutely ridiculous for me now to step back from all that and pretend to be balanced and ambivalent on issues of territorial warfare which I (and thousands upon thousands of other players) think are frankly rubbish and actively detrimental to the combat game of Eve.
 

You will be the very best representative you can be for those who agree with you? Tell me more oh benevolent one.