"I'm a retard" and other stories

[Der Helm]

Hm. I could be mistaken, but I'd sweared I had Minmatar Battleship trained to 5. How many skill points do you loose fore getting podded without updated clone again ?

[bhodi]

About 2-3 weeks worth, or 500-750ik.

[Nerf]

Up to 25% of your highest skill.

[Der Helm]

Up to 25% of your highest skill.

I guess I'll file a bug report then, I think (!) I lost 50% of my BS5 skill.

[bhodi]

That's your highest skill total, adding up all the points from I, II, III, IIII, and IV then subtracting it from the skill. It's entirely possible that you lost 50% of BS V.

[Der Helm]

That's your highest skill total, adding up all the points from I, II, III, IIII, and IV then subtracting it from the skill. It's entirely possible that you lost 50% of BS V.

I still can't believe I was that stupid. I'd rather believe I THOUGHT I had BS5 all the time and was wrong. 

Are there logs I could check  ?

[ajax34i]

So, after a lengthy discussion about DPS and ratting with Epid3mic, he convinced me that putting some guns on my Dominix, which would have raised my DPS by 20%, was a good idea.  So, I spent some 2 hours going to Empire in a hauler, getting some ammo, hunting down some large hybrid rails, afterburner, mag stabilizers, etc., hauling it all back, and putting it in containers nice. 

Then I go to try to fit the guns, and...  "sorry, you need Gunnery 5 and Large Hybrids 1 to install these weapons".

Noob char, forgot I didn't have the skills yet.

Guess I have to wait another week for Gunnery 5 and then I have to go pick up a Large Hybrids skillbook.

[Phildo]

Helm, you just made me cry for you.

Ajax, I fit four large guns on my Domi and life has never been the same since.  It's a huge difference!

[Der Helm]

Helm, you just made me cry for you.

Ajax, I fit four large guns on my Domi and life has never been the same since.  It's a huge difference!

Hows the DPS on large Blasters compared to large rails ?

[Phildo]

<giggle>

[Der Helm]

<giggle>

[ajax34i]

It's 20% (of the gun DPS) better.  My thing is, I'm doing 300 DPS with the drones, and I'd be doing between 100 DPS (with rails) and 120 DPS (with blasters) in addition to that, due to minimal gun skills, so it would be a 5% improvement for me.  Since my cap skills are also meh, I'd rather not have the MWD completely mess up my tank duration, so I'll stick with rails for now.

[Endie]

So, after a lengthy discussion about DPS and ratting with Epid3mic, he convinced me that putting some guns on my Dominix, which would have raised my DPS by 20%, was a good idea.

It can be.  Someone might say that the difference between 200DPS and 240DPS is not huge, but if the peak regen on your target is 160DPS then suddenly you just doubled the rate at which you are beating that.

[ajax34i]

Oh, I believe it, and I am going to put guns on it.  The "I'm a retard" part was in me taking like 3 hours to go to empire, buy the guns and a shitload of ammo, haul it, then discover I coudn't install for another week.

Drone DPS is ok, now, definitely breaking the tank of the NPC's.  Hell, I killed a True Sansha BS and didn't even realize it until 20 min later when I noticed a 6 mil bounty in the log and started wondering why it was so big.  Then I looked in the loot pile and discovered I'd been shafted, only a kinetic armor hardener dropped.

[Phildo]

The extra DPS is also nice because it helps maintain cap stability.  If you can kill the guy before you run out, that is.

[IainC]

In corp chat this evening:
Names changed to protect the innocent. Z is a carrier pilot who's been transporting stuff up and down between Empire and out 0.0 foothold.

[20:36:29] Theonenoonenos > Z u there??
[20:44:32] Theonenoonenos > does any one know if Z is bk in 0.0 yet??
[20:45:44] Corp mate Z > yes im back and all your stuff is blown up
[20:45:54] Theonenoonenos > :(
[20:46:05] Theonenoonenos > damn cargo hold bombs :P
[20:46:16] Corp mate Z  > send me a price on the stuff u had pls
[20:46:28] Theonenoonenos > its blown up?
[20:46:35] Theonenoonenos > u lost ur JF??
[20:46:45] Corp mate Z  > no my carrier
[20:46:56] Theonenoonenos > shit
[20:47:09] Corp mate Z  > my own pos attacked it
[20:47:17] Theonenoonenos > no way
[20:47:18] Arkon Vordart > r u serious?
[20:47:25] Verg Vetter > really is a fucked up day to be had by all =/
[20:47:26] Corp mate Z  > yes im serious
[20:47:30] Arkon Vordart > wow =/
[20:47:43] Verg Vetter > Z man, sorry for your loss
[20:48:00] Theonenoonenos > yea that sux, why did it shoot at u?
[20:48:16] Corp mate Z  > standings wasnt set to new alliance
[20:48:31] Darkireland > i want to be the meat in a chao katarn samwhich
[20:49:15] Chao Phyra > aw no Z - jeeze
[20:49:53] Corp mate Z  > well it could have been worse, it could have been the freighter
[20:50:06] Skywings > i agree
[20:50:10] Theonenoonenos > yea that wud have really sucked
[20:50:31] Theonenoonenos > what the basic insurance like on a carrier??
[20:50:41] Arkon Vordart > did you not have enough time to warp out or soemthing?>
[20:51:12] Zuquar Bonaparte > come se my pos and u will se why i didnt get away:)
[20:51:23] Arkon Vordart > which pos is this?
[20:51:26] Arkon Vordart > aunen?
[20:51:33] Corp mate Z  > 8-9 in oj
[20:51:37] Arkon Vordart > oh
[20:52:33] Tristel > Damn Z, sorry to hear it mate :(
[20:53:12] Theonenoonenos > i feel bad quoting a price now
[20:53:53] Corp mate Z  > dont feel bad m8, apparently its my own fault
[20:54:07] Theonenoonenos > dont worry bout the cost, it was nothing compared to what u just lost
[20:54:14] Arkon Vordart > did we ever hear back from ccp about that alliance thing?
[20:54:29] Arkon Vordart > id say try to petition it
[20:54:33] Tristel > Z, were my skill books blown up buddy?
[20:55:08] Corp mate Z  > everything that i transported except 30 discovery probes for talima was blown up
[20:55:23] Theonenoonenos > lol savage
[20:55:26] Corp mate Z  > i got 7,3m insurance for the onyx theone
[20:55:28] Tristel > Yeah were my books on the carrier then?
[20:55:33] Theonenoonenos > cool
[20:56:07] Theonenoonenos > lol, keep the 7.3m its my contribution for ur loss
[20:56:14] Corp mate Z  > yeah tris, they allso got blown up
[20:56:29] Tristel > crikey :S
[20:56:33] Corp mate Z  > 308m in basic insurance
[20:56:40] Corp mate Z  > for the carrier
[20:57:04] Corp mate Z  > i allso lost my rigged occator
[20:57:05] Theonenoonenos > thats shocking, meh at least u got some thing back, pay for the fighters atleast
[20:57:12] Corp mate Z  > and 140 ogre 2s
[20:57:35] Theonenoonenos > ur occator got popped too!?!?!
[20:57:44] Zikka > it was a bad day :(
[20:58:07] Theonenoonenos > can u try and petition it or was it "your" fault??
[20:58:50] Zikka > its petitionable - not a sure thing to get back tho
[20:59:09] Theonenoonenos > worth a try
[20:59:26] Hikari Horaki > i dont think ccp reimburse anything bigger then a BS
[20:59:32] Zikka > they do
[21:04:54] Theonenoonenos > nn all, sorry bout ur TK'ing POS Z
[21:06:12] Hikari Horaki > hmm should deffo petition this
[21:06:15] Hikari Horaki > Zuq
[21:10:20] Corp mate Z  > ?
[21:10:33] Hikari Horaki > your carrier

[21:15:19] Corp mate Z > worse is , b4 i left for empire this morining the last thinng i did was set the pos to shoot at 5.0 and below
[21:15:39] Corp mate Z > so in a way it was stupid of me not to dbl check my standings
[21:15:58] Corp mate Z > specially since i knew all about the new bd and old bd thing
[21:16:32] Corp mate Z > i just didnt think about it , as i was warping in and out of this pos all day yesterday

[Polysorbate80]

In corp chat this evening:
Names changed to protect the innocent. Z is a carrier pilot who's been transporting stuff up and down between Empire and out 0.0 foothold.

[20:51:12] Zuquar Bonaparte > come se my pos and u will se why i didnt get away:)

If that's Corp mate Z, you missed one...

[Gets]

Ugh...  I've been avoiding this thread ever since its birth. Sure, running around with 300mil ISK worth of T2 stuff in your Iteron Mark I was as brilliant as fighting forest fires in a scubadiving suit. Newbies with too much ISK do that. Doing L4 missions when all you really have is a few levels in the skill "Battleships" while not considering these are high effective quality missions roughly equals something along the lines of trying to see how much ketchup you have to rub on yourself before the lions in the savanna start showing interest in you. While I know EVE creates some wonderful lossmails (lolmails) to allow the creation for its own brand of Darwin Awards it still surprises me how intelligent people such as me and you act like we just got out of college with our phone-booth repairer degrees.

This thread is educational, depressingly educational at times. Yet I ignored everything I've had the pleasure of smirking at in this thread. It happened in a system called Aphend, strangely enough. I figured I'd probe down some abandoned T2 drones in a mission hub as practice without worrying much about money wasted on probes. (hi gais, this is gets' common sense talkin in brackets, just so u know). I got to my third location when I noticed some T1 Hammerheads among the T2 ones I had just scooped up. Dammit! What rotten luck. Guess I should pop these so they don't show up on the scan. (eh, srsly, dude) But I don't have any guns on my fully T2 fitted Helios (phew!) I know! I'll use the drone I have in my drone bay (aaw maaan).

Of course I didn't have the warning message on. I've been playing for 6 months now. What, you don't believe me? Well, I don't either =/

[nurtsi]

Was just hauling 7 BPOs from empire to our base of operations through low sec in a shuttle. I've hauled shit like this dozens of times and never had any problems. Sure there have been gate camps but I just blast through them and nothing can lock me.

Everything goes like normal, I hit 'warp to 0', sit tight and start hammering 'jump' immediately when I am about to drop from warp. Twenty jumps behind me, only eleven or so to go. I warp as normal. When I'm exiting the warp I notice two blinking red guys in battleships. "Ok, small gate camp. They have no change in hell locking to me." I start hammering my 'jump' button. I exit warp and instantly my shuttle explodes and my pod with it. I wake up 43 jumps away.

I check the killmail and apparently I landed on a Rokh with dread guristas large graviton smartbombs. To add to the insult, 3 out of 7 BPOs weren't destroyed so someone got lucky. Fuck! Never hauling in a shuttle again.

[ajax34i]

Those smartbombs can insta-pop frigates, btw.  Know first hand, from one of our first frigate ops.

[Endie]

I almost lost a covops doing the same thing, on the far side of the gate (ie warping away).  What saved me was that I actually had some basic tank on the buzzard, just in case.  I warped off with 25% or so structure.

The weird thing was, it was in highsec, in a 0.5 sec system.  The guy's sec status would have been hammered, and it's totally speculative since he'd no chance to scan me as I warp around, cloaked.

[Calantus]

On my mission runner I set a 30 point jump over to Gallente space from Caldari space. I then hit autopilot and went AFK. Naturally this course goes through lowsec but I didn't think of that at the time because the first time I played they still put you through highsec by default and warned you if you went through lowsec. As expected I get blown up and podded. Fortunately I was only in an insured caracel with 2k standard missiles and T1 fittings so it getting blown up wasn't a big deal. I DID have about 50mil worth of attribute implants stuck in his head but fortunately I'm ending his training in 4 (5 now) days as he has the skills he needs and I'd rather work on another alt. So all in all I didn't lose much of anything, but it was really stupid.

[Reg]

That's not really stupid. Once in a while EVE loses your autopilot settings and it defaults back to allowing travel through low sec. It's just one of the long standing bugs they're so famous for ignoring.

[Calantus]

Okay I have a fully legit retard story now. I'm on my PVP character and get podded so I go to upgrade my clone. He has 6mil SP so I decide to buy the one that holds 7mil. Only I was looking at the wrong goddamn column so the clone actually cost 7mil.

[Nerf]

Well, just don't get podded for another 50mil SPs and it's not wasted money or anything!

[lac]

I scrammed a hurricane in my stiletto outside a station today, thinking he'll probably dock but what the hell. After asking for backup on ventrilo for two minutes I realise my mike isn't plugged in. I get under my desk to plug it in, look up and see my stiletto stuck on a station wall getting one shotted

[Gets]

So that's why you never said anything 

[Stephen Zepp]

Well, I finally got a real one:

--ratting away trying to build up a war chest, was tabbed out briefly to answer a work email. Came back to an ishtar and a vagabond on me, and I'm caught smack dab in the middle of two asteroids that I can't get out of.

Pretty expensive loss of my ratting BS (megathron), so going to be a bit of a road to get back to speed :( Fortunately it was insured, but the modules were still decently expensive for my current isk.

Lessons learned:

--make SURE the damned KoS page is trusted. I had clicked off the annoying warning a few days ago, and thought it was marked as trusted, so couldn't get the page to load.
--don't tab out, even though it's how I get to rat during the day.
--whatever you do, don't let yourself chase down a rat into the middle of asteroids if you're a blaster bs--just not smart ;) Would have aligned and gotten out I think had I not been stuck and behind the surprise curve.

My nice baby Megathron, blown to smithereens

[Gets]

I never use the KOS Checker. In-game browser is clunky, giving the enemy just enough time to scan where I am or start warping to me. It's also manually updated and who knows when the guys who do ever get around to verifiying any of the entries. You safespot whenever anything suspicious enters the system, especially off the beaten path.

I know the tone of this reply is getting old, but repetition is the mother of learning, I guess. But since you had to tab out and didn't warp to safety just before the baddies came it's all just very bad luck, which occasionally happends to all of us (or more often to Samson). I hope that emphasis on your loss helps avoid future ones.

I lost a Battleship because I forgot to do one click on the Armor Repairer. Meh.

[Jayce]

Trying out my new gun skills + named repper in the belts.  I do a lot better against 2 BS rats now.   But not well enough.

I had one down to structure.  Unfortunately, he's starting to hit my structure.  I thought for sure that if I can pop him, my repper will catch up and it will be easy street.  Then I'll go afk inside the POS while structure repping.

Except I'm getting to half structure and a bit nervous.  So I hit warp.  Of course, the pos is right behind me and there's nothing to align to in front.  Turn... turn you tub!!

I get all the way around and basically have no structure left.  Then my screen freezes.

And freezes.

I hear the "new email" sound.  That CAN'T be good.

Then... I'm in warp!  I look at structure and armor, I have a sliver left.  Woo hoo!

Then... rubber band.  Back in the belts.  Popped.  I guess my client wasn't quite sure whether I made it or not until it resynched with the server.

Fortunately, this time I was insured for the whole amount; I even made a million because I bought the replacement below what the insurance payout was.  Didn't cover the modules, but that's the dumbass tax.

[Stephen Zepp]

Well, the worst part is that they --are-- kos, but showed as neutral in /local. We had Sylph members wandering through literally all day, about every 15 minutes or so, so running to a safe spot every time local++ wasn't an efficient option.

Of course, losing 260m vs gaining the 20m I did ratting isn't particularly efficient either, so I'm going to have to re-think that tactic ;)

[lac]

Sylph should be blue, no?
How on earth did you manage to spend 260m on a ratting bs?
If you need some cash to buy a new one, let me know and I'll front you some.

[Stephen Zepp]

Sylph should be blue, no?

Eve's wonderful Overview Settings implementation does not seem to allow for different appearance settings for different tabs. It looks like twiddles made during wardec fights may have caused them to not show blue, or in fact we don't have Sylph marked as friendly/blue...I'm not sure which.

How on earth did you manage to spend 260m on a ratting bs?

Couple of T1 rigs, bunch of salvage, some general loot, and some pretty high priced guns added up quickly :(

[Phildo]

Part of the problem was the sheer volume of loot you were carrying.  You ought to dump it off every couple of belts or so to hedge against damned neutrals shooting at you.

Also, I remember hearing about that corp going Rogue in Citadel a day or two beforehand.  Oops.

[Phred]

Part of the problem was the sheer volume of loot you were carrying.  You ought to dump it off every couple of belts or so to hedge against damned neutrals shooting at you.

Also, I remember hearing about that corp going Rogue in Citadel a day or two beforehand.  Oops.

I believe it was in alliance mail too.