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July 20, 2025, 07:15:11 AM

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...are the good ones?

III? IV? I have V. Is it worth getting any of the older ones if I already have V?

thanks youse.

Before V came out, I'd have said 1, 2, and 3 are better than IV. But uhm. V is pretty hot.

So keep on V and don't bother with the old ones then?

No real reason to, not with the online webbased version coming out (that seems to borrow a lot from 2 and 3).

Disciples II. Was that one of the options?

No, it wasn't. Mostly for NOT BEING HOMM.

Ohhhhh, I see.

Are you sure?

Azazel, Gametap has HOMM I-IV.

http://www.gametap.com/home/play/gameDetails/000349550

Oh, don't think I'm knocking Disciples, plz. It's quite good. But HoMM is special.

Quote from: Azazel on February 09, 2008, 02:16:48 AM

Cheers.

See? I speak your crazy Australian cant. Fair suck of the sauce bottle!

You were doing really well for the first couple of words, but that last sentence made you sound a right septic hoon.

And no, septic doesn't mean septic.

Quote from: schild on February 08, 2008, 10:37:54 PM

No real reason to, not with the online webbased version coming out (that seems to borrow a lot from 2 and 3).

What?

Do we have thread about this? I've been waiting for a professional browser empire builder for ages. This is a huge potential niche market. The development cost must be pretty low. Wonder why it took so much time. I hope they'll make an online collectible card version after...

It didn't take so long, there's an empire building game in facebook and there's that Travian shit. This one just happens to be APPEALING.

Uhmmm, it's called HoMM Kingdoms I think, there's a thread in the MMOG forum about it.

Quote from: Azazel on February 08, 2008, 10:12:55 PM

...are the good ones?

III? IV? I have V. Is it worth getting any of the older ones if I already have V?

thanks youse.

definitely don't bother with 4.
It is worth a look if you want to see how good ideas messes with previous formula and ended up with a terrible product.
I used to have this discussion with my friends, let's call this 'Wouldn't it be great if...'
Wouldn't it be great if:
-Units can move by themselves?
-Leaders can actually FIGHT in the game?
-Leaders abilities are more balanced? (certain leaders have specialties in HOMM3, making their colleagues unwanted)

NWC did change with that in mind turning it into:
Yes, units can move by themselves, hence I can suicide resource grab with a lvl 1 peon with not much consequences to myself in week 1. Turning it into a loooooong 'spam lvl 1 critter n grab scout' 1 v 1 game in multiplay.

Yes, leaders can actually FIGHT, and they're even tougher than most lvl 1-4 monsters, turning them into a superunit such as the archer barbarian. It is actually pretty bullshit strat that worked. You snipe their hero off and run away.

Yes, leaders are balanced so much that they do not have any more specialties; the only different is a starting skill for every faction hero, heroes in the same factions are identical, except for names (which you CAN change now) and picture (hooray for variety!)

I give props to having combination skills leading to a perk though, that was quite original.

The biggest problem I had with with 4 was that neutrals just grew and grew and grew. Plus they took away the take turns for attacking thing. So what happened is you needed to get what you could early and use as many tricks as you could (magic, ranged attacks, and OP heroes were the best methods... summons being especially choice) to preserve your army because by the endgame any neutral is going to be so fuckoff powerful you can't afford the guaranteed loss of troops should you fight them.

I grew to like HoMaM 4, but it's by far the weakest. III stands as the overall best, though all the original trilogy are great. V I'm holding judgement on. It plays ok but differently enough that I want to finish it first. I got stalled by the difficulty in one early-mid mission and got tired of replaying it. Recently started again with the new patch, but imo it was more mission design than game difficulty, as the previous missions were easy enough.

Anyway, if I had to have one, I'd take III, the complete edition.

Discples II was cool, I had one version of that and would like to check out some of the others at some point.