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on: January 02, 2008, 09:41:48 AM

So, as far as tech stuff goes, I pretty much have everything I want or need, but every time I see that shiny PS3 box at best buy I am tempted. I was firmly against the PS3 for quite a while, but they are now starting to get some good games. Would it be worth it for me to get a PS3 for the following games:

Uncharted
Folklore
Resistance

Wow, as I write that, I realize that I think those are the only games I currently would buy. Are there any other exclusives coming out any time soon?
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Reply #1 on: January 02, 2008, 09:59:35 AM

LittleBigPlanet seems to be due out first quarter 08.

Haze on January 15.

Some other stuff you might or not be interested in an released in early 08:
Disgaea 3
Metal Gear Solid IV
GT5 Prologue
Devil May Cry 4 (exclusive?)

Of all of those, I'm really only interested in Disgaea 3.

Sucks, but there would still only be 2 must buys for me on the system after Q1.  Other interesting stuff is multi-platform release.

But hey, Bluray player!

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Reply #2 on: January 02, 2008, 11:06:21 AM

Haze was delayed til the summer or something. I thought...

But Little Big Planet is worth the cost of admission on it's own.

DMC4 is not an exclusive. It is the first week of February though, and the PS3 version is the lead platform.
Turok is supposed to be a damn fine game.
Condemned 2 should be pretty great.
GTA4?

Basically, once you own both, there's slight brightness and edge differences that may make you favor one console over the other. I buy PS3 games for *most* cross platform titles simply because of the dual shock analog stick layout. Also, it does super white and full range HDMI much better than my 360 elite does.

Also, those 3 titles are pretty great. Also, Heavenly Sword and Time Crysis 4 (if you like light gun games).
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Reply #3 on: January 02, 2008, 12:39:22 PM

Ratchet & Clank Future, but I think most people here are not into that.

I like my sticks to be symmetrical.  Normally the 360 controller doesn't irritate me because it's not critical to gameplay, but I absolutely cannot do the charge-roll in Beautiful Katamari without putting the controller in my lap like some sort of gimp.  If I put the controller into my lap, I've already lost.

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Reply #4 on: January 02, 2008, 12:43:00 PM

Well if you want to just go in terms of justification, do you have an HD tv?

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Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 12:58:13 PM

With my PS3 I have the three mentioned games and my 5 free bluray titles plus a few other "meh" games. And I still have a bit of buyer's regret. That said, there are good games coming down the line so you might want to get one now to have the backwards compatibility and enjoy the few (three! four if you count R&C) good games on it.

So far the PS3 is losing hard core due to a shitty selection of games that are exclusive. I'd say it's even worse than the Wii because at least Nintendo is churning out some decent titles.

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Reply #6 on: January 02, 2008, 12:59:53 PM

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I'd say it's even worse than the Wii because at least Nintendo is churning out some decent titles.

Are you chumming the waters? Nintendo has the same number of AAA titles as PS3. Absolutely no bias. Exact. Same. Number.

And they don't have Uncharted. Or Disgaea 3 on the horizon. But they have Smash Bros. So, eh. It comes down to, again, Do you have an HDTV. And I'm pretty sure he does.
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Reply #7 on: January 02, 2008, 01:04:58 PM

And I'm pretty sure he does.

Then the purchase is justified the first time you play a Blu Ray movie, it's a bonus the thing plays games as well.

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Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 02:06:42 PM

I'll second the new Ratchet and Clank.  It made my top 20 list.  It's balls to the wall fun from start to finish IMO.

I also really enjoyed Warhawk and still play it upon occasion, but I've never played a Battlefield style game.  From what I gather, if you've played any of the Battlefield games, Warhawk isn't nearly as impressive.

If you still have PS2 games you want to play the PS3 does a pretty damn good job at up-scaling them.  For instance Persona 3 and Odin Sphere looked great up-scaled to 720p.

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Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 02:09:03 PM

If you want backwards compatibility, Toys R Us is now blowing out 20GB PS3s at $300. If you don't need Wireless, this price point is fucking PERFECT.
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Reply #10 on: January 02, 2008, 08:21:02 PM

If you want backwards compatibility, Toys R Us is now blowing out 20GB PS3s at $300. If you don't need Wireless, this price point is fucking PERFECT.
Speaking of the Backwards compatibility issues, i am also considering getting a PS3, and want to make ABSOLUTELY certain that i get the best possible backwards compatibility setup (planning to donate my ps2 to my sister once i have a PS3, and can not live without my PS2 RPG collection).

In that regards, from what I understand, out of the current bunch: the old 20 gig is backwards compatible, the new 40 gig is not, and the new 80 gig is.

And out of the 20 gig versions of old, there was a Software based BC setup, and a Hardware based BC.

Assuming i could still find either of the old 20 gig types (i live in the toronto area, canada), which one gives the better Backwards Compatible experience?

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Reply #11 on: January 02, 2008, 08:31:44 PM

Get a 60GB or a 20GB. Any of them. Far as I know, there's no such thing as software 20GB.

You have no other options.
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Reply #12 on: January 02, 2008, 10:09:58 PM

there is a 60 gig option?  Bestbuy only seemed to list 40 and 80.

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Reply #13 on: January 02, 2008, 10:25:28 PM

Go to an EB or a lesser known store than Best Buy. I bought both of my 60GB from EB.
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Reply #14 on: January 02, 2008, 10:56:09 PM

sounds like a plan.

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Reply #15 on: January 02, 2008, 11:01:29 PM

At $300 with PS2 backwards compatibility I actually might get a PS3.  What am I screwing myself out of by getting the 20GB version?  Do I have to uninstall and reinstall games?  My last proper console system was an original NES.
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Reply #16 on: January 02, 2008, 11:16:01 PM

You can replace the hard drive with a hugemongous one. Up to 400GB I think.

The 20GB one has no wireless or compact flash/memory slots.

Knowing you, just get it and replace the hard drive and kiss all of your fears away. It has gigabit ethernet built in. Also, I hear the processor is powered by an Old One. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #17 on: January 02, 2008, 11:32:37 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3 Chart there. Scroll a bit
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Reply #18 on: January 02, 2008, 11:51:04 PM

How bad is the PS3 software backwards compatibility? Does anyone have any horror stories, or are people mostly just being extra careful?
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Reply #19 on: January 02, 2008, 11:56:08 PM

You can find a list on the Sony site.

Really, Hardware or bust on this one. Particularly for people that like Atlus games.
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Reply #20 on: January 03, 2008, 12:05:37 AM

You can find a list on the Sony site.

Really, Hardware or bust on this one. Particularly for people that like Atlus games.

That just ruined my day. Heartbreak I got an 80GB PS3 for xmas from my girlfriend. And I found Steambot Chronicles nearly as much fun as anything I could do with my genitals.

Well, I suppose I'll just have to keep my PS2 packed away for emergencies - henceforth to be known as "old dusty."
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Reply #21 on: January 03, 2008, 12:22:06 AM

which basicly means, 60 gig version or bust (if you want wifi / and the flash card reader) since the 80 gig is software driven huh

Anyone have any good ideas on tracking down a 60 gig version in the brampton / toronto area? (going to check with my local EB tomorrow when businesses are open)

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Reply #22 on: January 03, 2008, 12:25:34 AM

Check EB and ask to do a district lookup. It's worth the effort. You might even find a used one (they're all considered refurbs since they send them out to have the porn cleaned off the harddrive. I think they're about $380 now.
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Reply #23 on: January 03, 2008, 12:39:11 AM

is it safe to get a refurb, or am i going to be forced to buy an EB extended warranty in the event that i find a refurb unit at a decent price only to have it crap out / die after a month or two?

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Reply #24 on: January 03, 2008, 12:40:49 AM

Hm.

My second one is a refurb.

I did not get the warranty. I've heard so few reports that I'm not worried and Sony is quick to respond if there is an issue apparently (I had to google this).
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Reply #25 on: January 03, 2008, 03:10:41 AM

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I'd say it's even worse than the Wii because at least Nintendo is churning out some decent titles.

Are you chumming the waters? Nintendo has the same number of AAA titles as PS3. Absolutely no bias. Exact. Same. Number.

And they don't have Uncharted. Or Disgaea 3 on the horizon. But they have Smash Bros. So, eh. It comes down to, again, Do you have an HDTV. And I'm pretty sure he does.

Uncharted imo is worth the price of admission. I have 0 time to game and am atm in the south pacific far from my consoles but Uncharted was fucking awesome. I bought a PS3 just for potential and so far it lacks in that I could get most stuff for my 360 but things like Uncharted keep me from regretting my $$ spend.

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Reply #26 on: January 03, 2008, 06:16:11 AM

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I'd say it's even worse than the Wii because at least Nintendo is churning out some decent titles.

Are you chumming the waters? Nintendo has the same number of AAA titles as PS3. Absolutely no bias. Exact. Same. Number.

And they don't have Uncharted. Or Disgaea 3 on the horizon. But they have Smash Bros. So, eh. It comes down to, again, Do you have an HDTV. And I'm pretty sure he does.

Uncharted imo is worth the price of admission. I have 0 time to game and am atm in the south pacific far from my consoles but Uncharted was fucking awesome. I bought a PS3 just for potential and so far it lacks in that I could get most stuff for my 360 but things like Uncharted keep me from regretting my $$ spend.

I will admit that Uncharted singlehandedly saved my PS3 from being my biggest case of buyer's remorse in a decade. I still haven't finished Folklore and Resistance was good but not as awesome as it was hyped up to be.

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Reply #27 on: January 03, 2008, 06:28:54 AM

there is a 60 gig option?  Bestbuy only seemed to list 40 and 80.

Yeah, its a bundle however. I think they are not making any more, so stores may have a limited supply, i believe the one i got came with that motor sport game.

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Reply #28 on: January 03, 2008, 06:41:28 AM

$300 for a 20gb?  Shit I may go buy one for my mom.  She's wanted to play the new R&C and Guitar Hero since she saw mine on Christmas.

Also, adding a new HDD is super easy and does not void your warranty or anything.  I have a 160gb drive in mine at the moment.

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Reply #29 on: January 03, 2008, 07:14:38 AM

My local EB manager assured me that the 80GB models coming in the new year would have hardware BC, but I haven't read that ANYWHERE else, so I have my doubts.

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Reply #30 on: January 03, 2008, 08:12:58 AM

My local EB manager assured me that the 80GB models coming in the new year would have hardware BC, but I haven't read that ANYWHERE else, so I have my doubts.


It was my understanding that no more BC consoles will be made. And any that you find are the last of the batch. Of course, i could be completely misinterpreting this.

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Reply #31 on: January 03, 2008, 08:31:08 AM

EB managers are liars and thieves, or perhaps just bitter retards with the reading comprehension of a postal worker.  In any case, the number I hear for BC on the 80GB model is 80%.  The 60GB are no longer in production so you'll have to be both lucky and good to find one.  Atlanta is like the Sargasso Sea of gaming so if you're in the metro area (between Knoxville and Macon), you should be able to find one if you apply yourself.

This BC situation burns my anus.  If Sony stalls on improving the software PS2 emulator, I'm going to be angry for reals.

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Reply #32 on: January 03, 2008, 09:50:15 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3 Chart there. Scroll a bit

The chart doesnt say which ones are HDMI.
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Reply #33 on: January 03, 2008, 11:43:01 AM

I'm fairly certain that all the PS3 models have HDMI support.  On account of the whole BluRay player thing. 
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Reply #34 on: January 03, 2008, 11:55:54 AM

I'm fairly certain that all the PS3 models have HDMI support.  On account of the whole BluRay player thing. 

I was in Best Buy the other day, and was looking at the 40gb and the 80gb, only the 80gb stated on the box that it had HDMI output.
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