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Reply #875 on: September 08, 2011, 12:01:46 PM

I guess it comes down to whether you see the data on the hard drive as 'you' or the program that inteprets the data as 'you'.

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Reply #876 on: September 08, 2011, 12:18:57 PM

Hell, I'd fit on a 3 and a quarter floppy.

I won't give a fuck.

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Reply #877 on: September 08, 2011, 02:19:05 PM

If you dont have that bonus mission, when you got back to china and meet tong the second time, does he just give you the info and send you on your merry way to the harbor?[/spoiler]

Going to go again and try the stealth field augs this round, and be a candy bar eating machine.



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Reply #878 on: September 08, 2011, 02:51:14 PM

The invisibility aug has the useful secondary use of making it possible to walk through laser beams.

I had almost finished the game before that particular hint came up on a loading screen for me.  swamp poop

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Reply #879 on: September 08, 2011, 03:06:32 PM

The invisibility aug has the useful secondary use of making it possible to walk through laser beams.[/spoiler]
The beams also turn off when one of the enemies gets near them. And they don't discern whether that enemy is still alive or dead...
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Reply #880 on: September 08, 2011, 03:12:13 PM


Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #881 on: September 08, 2011, 07:57:09 PM

You know, starting my second play through just really drives home some of the things you learned about the first time through were hinted at.  Like this time i immediately read Meagn's email before leaving room 1, and the elevator scene where she seems to be working up to revealing some troubling secret to me, which i initially interpreted as some romantic angle but turned out to be much darker.  Same thing with paying more attention to the details in the cut scenes.

I wonder if they would do yet another prequel game about

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Reply #882 on: September 08, 2011, 08:35:49 PM

Loved the ending.

I feel like people forgot how piss poor the endings were in the other games.

I do however, miss the quotes.

"Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth..."

etc

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Reply #883 on: September 08, 2011, 10:07:42 PM

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Reply #884 on: September 08, 2011, 10:18:39 PM

1 week on. Still not got DX:HR back in my Steam library.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #885 on: September 08, 2011, 11:41:40 PM

You have angered the Steam gods. They can only be appeased by a sacrifice. As this is your first trangression, a goat will suffice.
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Reply #886 on: September 08, 2011, 11:53:17 PM

So holding the space bar makes you jump more (which explains why the Jump Aug was considered useless by me for ages) and you can look around while hacking.

(Things I didn't know on first playthrough.)

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Reply #887 on: September 09, 2011, 12:39:10 AM

Also , as long you don't completely deplete the energy bar, no matter if it's not the first one, it will still regen.

A mechanic I can't even grasp. Jeebus.

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Reply #888 on: September 09, 2011, 12:39:25 AM

1 week on. Still not got DX:HR back in my Steam library.  Ohhhhh, I see.
Paypal reversed the charge, steam banned your account then unbanned it and removed DX:HR. Did you re-purchase the game from Steam after that?

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Reply #889 on: September 09, 2011, 02:55:18 AM

1 week on. Still not got DX:HR back in my Steam library.  Ohhhhh, I see.
Paypal reversed the charge, steam banned your account then unbanned it and removed DX:HR. Did you re-purchase the game from Steam after that?

 awesome, for real


(Sorry, had the same happen to me with the dreadfulll APB  ACK!

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Reply #890 on: September 09, 2011, 03:08:29 AM

Loved the ending.

I feel like people forgot how piss poor the endings were in the other games.

I do however, miss the quotes.

"Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth..."

etc



The lack of quotes was reflected elsewhere in the game, too. The original DX1 spouted a lot of philosophy and political thought at you, if you went looking through the various books and talking to random NPCs. This one refrains from any sort of preachery or navelgazing, but that means it also entirely avoids discussing its various themes internally. It's a more thematically and intellectually watered-down experience, even while the production values and gameplay value are top-notch.

Of course, it might just be that I was 19 at the time that I played DX1 and, since I hadn't been exposed to some of that material before, it sounded deeper than it really was.
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Reply #891 on: September 09, 2011, 06:27:24 AM

So holding the space bar makes you jump more (which explains why the Jump Aug was considered useless by me for ages) and you can look around while hacking.

(Things I didn't know on first playthrough.)


 ACK!

Oddly, I'm starting to wonder if I should have looked for a manual before I played this.

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Reply #892 on: September 09, 2011, 07:51:16 AM

It's funny too, because hacking, had Real time threat to it, but when you do take-downs, the whole time just freezes. It's just so weird.
And about drinking to get temporary HP boost? I didn't even do that till 2nd playthrough. Because I was saving it to heal myself during boss fights.

There's a lot of meh mechanics in game, and I wish they polished it more to have drawbacks when picking too much augmentations, but there really isn't any.

For example of having 'upgrades' with plot-tied and gameplay drawbacks, check out 'Bloodnet'

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Reply #893 on: September 09, 2011, 07:56:59 AM

Oh, somebody else played Bloodnet. I thought I was the only one remembering that little gem.

I really wish GoG gets a hold of all those old Microprose gems one of these days.
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Reply #894 on: September 09, 2011, 08:06:45 AM

That makes 3 of us  awesome, for real

Yeah, augmentation wasn't always a good idea in that game, but one of the best companions was a robot with Elvis' personality chip in it. Or something like that, it's been 15 years!

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Reply #895 on: September 10, 2011, 08:19:04 PM

Today I ran through a level carrying a hacked turret and mowed down everyone I came across.   Heart
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Reply #896 on: September 12, 2011, 04:19:00 AM

Today I ran through a level carrying a hacked turret and mowed down everyone I came across.   Heart

Haha, I did that as well.  Stupid mobs can't figure out to shoot the thing.
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Reply #897 on: September 12, 2011, 05:01:47 AM

Decades of playing Portal and its successor games made people unable to shoot at turrets anymore. That turret empathy override chip was actually the first augment Jensen got. Little known fact.
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Reply #898 on: September 12, 2011, 08:08:28 AM


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Reply #899 on: September 12, 2011, 09:23:10 AM

Dues Ex 3 coming to Mac in winter
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Reply #900 on: September 12, 2011, 10:55:04 AM

Today I ran through a level carrying a hacked turret and mowed down everyone I came across.   Heart

Haha, I did that as well.  Stupid mobs can't figure out to shoot the thing.

The one time I tried this I came around the corner and a guy with a heavy machine gun blew up the turet killing me.  Cry

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Reply #901 on: September 12, 2011, 11:14:22 AM

I did that trick in the FEMA armory place, and two well placed EMP Mines took down my turret.

I thought it was quite sneaky of those FEMA soldiers.

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Reply #902 on: September 12, 2011, 11:43:04 AM

In the medical building in China, when you have to hold off waves of guys while waiting for the elevator:

I hacked the turret, and then placed it on a nice angle facing one door. Then I stuck two vending machines in the hall to the right, full blocking it. Finally, piled up a bunch of crates on the stairs the baddies would have to go through.

Then I hit the elevator button, crouched behind something, and went and made a sandwich.
I even took the turret down in the elevator with me afterwords. Eventually lost it to an EMP grenade.  cry

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Reply #903 on: September 12, 2011, 02:08:37 PM

Heh, I actually brought the turret down from the floor above into the elevator room and had two turrets, one facing each door.  It was pretty silly.  It's kinda funny how far along you can generally drag a turret with you.
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Reply #904 on: September 12, 2011, 02:35:19 PM

Heh.  I had two turrets for my second play through, too.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #905 on: September 12, 2011, 02:56:47 PM

I still keep finding new background stories hidden in various corners.

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Reply #906 on: September 12, 2011, 10:39:11 PM

1 week on. Still not got DX:HR back in my Steam library.  Ohhhhh, I see.
Paypal reversed the charge, steam banned your account then unbanned it and removed DX:HR. Did you re-purchase the game from Steam after that?

PayPal never reversed the charge. The £30 was taken from my bank account on 31st August. No refund of any kind was ever made. Talking to PayPal on the phone - spoke to their UK Steam account dude last time - all they did was flag it as under investigation, and that was removed minutes after I spoke to them on the phone the first time. Steam are taking 4 days to respond to my tickets now. And still aren't actually reading them. They're not communicating with PayPal either, the PayPal Steam account dude said he was getting no responses from them. Giving it another week and then going the Trading Standards route, although I seriously doubt they'll be able to do anything.

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Reply #907 on: September 13, 2011, 12:44:06 AM

PayPal never reversed the charge. The £30 was taken from my bank account on 31st August. No refund of any kind was ever made. Talking to PayPal on the phone - spoke to their UK Steam account dude last time - all they did was flag it as under investigation, and that was removed minutes after I spoke to them on the phone the first time. Steam are taking 4 days to respond to my tickets now. And still aren't actually reading them. They're not communicating with PayPal either, the PayPal Steam account dude said he was getting no responses from them. Giving it another week and then going the Trading Standards route, although I seriously doubt they'll be able to do anything.
Ah. Okay, I misunderstood the situation then, somehow I'd gotten the idea that paypal reversed the charge.

There's basically two things I'm a bit annoyed with valve/steam about, one is that they're not reliably marking games with drm as games with drm (I bought RUSE in july after I was told they'd removed the drm, and the first thing I see is "durr create a ubisoft account". Good thing I bought it at a sale), and their support could ... let's be kind and say that it could be improved.

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Reply #908 on: September 13, 2011, 02:49:24 AM

Regarding Montreal


Also, the game has way too many Praxis points to need specialisation. I am already buying useless skills to burn points.
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Reply #909 on: September 13, 2011, 03:23:42 AM

Was there supposed to be a Montreal and it got cut?

Yeah, Montreal was at one point supposed to be a full third hub. Concept art of it is floating around the internet somewhere. Too bad, I wouldn't have minded another city.
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