Deus Ex 3. I shit you not.

[Pennilenko]

There is no double standard.  Lots of people have used and found Paypal to be a piece of shit service, lots of people have used and found Steam to be a great service.  The problem is using Paypal for anything, always.

I have never had an issue with Paypal, I use it for anything online that accepts Paypal. It's been literally years and years of blissful error free shopping online.

[MuffinMan]

apocrypha = sinij?  

[tgr]

Nah. He does have a point, steam's customer service could ... how should I put it? do with a bit of an improvement.

[Kail]

Wait, what ?  When did that happen ?

It looks like that's what their ARG thing was leading up to, too, if anyone was following that.

Nah. He does have a point, steam's customer service could ... how should I put it? do with a bit of an improvement.

I've heard a few horror stories like this about Steam and Paypal not getting along and the consumer ending up shafted.  It's got me spooked enough that I won't use Paypal anywhere if I can help it, and never on Steam.

[K9]

apocrypha = sinij?  

Not even close.

[Der Helm]

apocrypha = sinij?  

Not even close.

Yet.

 

[Tannhauser]

Just got past the first boss, felt the difficulty was about right.  Game is solid fun but
Very fun game, but it's not beating Fallout: New Vegas for my GOTY just yet. 

[Ingmar]

New Vegas actually came out in 2010. 

This is certainly a good game, but it isn't my GOTY either so far. (Portal 2 comes to mind.)

[apocrypha]

Well they did finally respond to my support tickets. By not reading them. Restored access to my Steam account... but removed Deus Ex 3 from my library.

Also, they faked the time & date on the ticket response. It's timestamped 3 hours *before* my last update to them on the support ticket yet it actually arrived at least 12 hours afterwards. Oh, and still not a single notification email.

[Miasma]

Three hours eh?  PST/EST?

[apocrypha]

Yeah that makes sense, probably just some strange timestamp error.

I was on the last stretch of this game too, probably 2-3 hours away from the end. I'm itching to finish it. The damn game is sat there on my hard drive and I can't play it.

[Tannhauser]

New Vegas actually came out in 2010. 

This is certainly a good game, but it isn't my GOTY either so far. (Portal 2 comes to mind.)

Ah, you're right.  I waited until this year to play FNV.  Also, I think it's funny that I hit encounters that are very very hard and then I try an alternate route and it's ez mode.  The game rewards you for thinking and being creative.  That and dermal armor should get me places!

[jakonovski]

The DLC sounds really shitty.

[Talpidae]

While I won't go that far, I can certainly think of tons of other things they could have done that I would have paid for.  This, not so much.

[eldaec]

I've heard a few horror stories like this about Steam and Paypal not getting along and the consumer ending up shafted.  It's got me spooked enough that I won't use Paypal anywhere if I can help it, and never on Steam.

I wouldn't advise anyone use paypal for anything that doesn't generate physical shipping evidence. When problems happen you get shafted unless you have evidence you can give paypal.

Not really paypals fault, beyond the the fact that they, like most banks in this situation will refuse to acknowledge there might be any issue between them and the counterparty and force you to do all the running to and fro to sort it out. At least with a real bank you can threaten them with various ombudsmen type organisations and they just write the transaction off on their end.

[Malakili]

About 15 hours in and I have to say, this is the best single player game released in years.  If RPGs were all this much fun to actually play, I'd be such a happy camper.

[Lantyssa]

[Bunk]

Cute. Game was stuffed full of little bits like that.

[K9]

[Ingmar]

Wincing my way through Shanghai. I'm thinking maybe they need to find a couple more unpleasant racial stereotypes to cram in this game. 

[schild]

You roundeyes will complain about anything.

[Thrawn]

Just finished my Deus Ex difficulty playthrough as pacifist/ghost.  Got my pacifist achievement, but did not get foxiest of hounds and have no idea why.   Pacifist tried to sneak a few by me but I caught them, quite a few gang member guys in Detroit DIE to a tranq dart if they aren't alert and I killed a guy on accident with an exploding drone once but luckily I noticed it.

[Tale]

Wincing my way through Shanghai. I'm thinking maybe they need to find a couple more unpleasant racial stereotypes to cram in this game.  

I'm Scottish Australian, but I winced at the overdone stereotypes in the way the black and hispanic guys speak in Detroit.

[Malakili]

Wincing my way through Shanghai. I'm thinking maybe they need to find a couple more unpleasant racial stereotypes to cram in this game.  

I'm Scottish Australian, but I winced at the overdone stereotypes in the way the black and hispanic guys speak in Detroit.

WEEEELLLLL SHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

edit: Just beat it.  I skipped a lot of side quests that I intend to do on my next playthrough.  Definitely a GOTY candidate.  I really thought the boss fights seemed out of place, but thats really my only complaint.

[Thrawn]

edit: Just beat it.  I skipped a lot of side quests that I intend to do on my next playthrough.  Definitely a GOTY candidate.  I really thought the boss fights seemed out of place, but thats really my only complaint.

You can cheese them so easy with the Typhoon they were pointless anyways, even on Deus Ex difficulty.

[Talpidae]

Just finished my Deus Ex difficulty playthrough as pacifist/ghost.  Got my pacifist achievement, but did not get foxiest of hounds and have no idea why.   Pacifist tried to sneak a few by me but I caught them, quite a few gang member guys in Detroit DIE to a tranq dart if they aren't alert and I killed a guy on accident with an exploding drone once but luckily I noticed it.

When I took on Barry White Bomber in the sewers, I tranqed him and then watched in horror as he slipped into the river of filth and was never seen again.  Fairly sure he died in there.

[Tebonas]

That counts as a death too? Well, so much for the Pacifist achievement, and I'm SOOO glad I restarted on behalf of those intro terrorists, just so that some drug-addled punk drowing in a puddle undoes all that. At least I can hack turrets now for maximum havoc. The one in the  was really asking for it.

Edit: Spoiler for the sake of latecomers that haven't finished Detroit yet.

[apocrypha]

I knocked out a bunch of guys in the sewers and dragged their sleeping bodies into the river'o'shit, it didn't kill them. Not saying it's guaranteed or anything, just that the game doesn't seem to definitely assign that as a death.

[Malakili]

edit: Just beat it.  I skipped a lot of side quests that I intend to do on my next playthrough.  Definitely a GOTY candidate.  I really thought the boss fights seemed out of place, but thats really my only complaint.

You can cheese them so easy with the Typhoon they were pointless anyways, even on Deus Ex difficulty.

Never took that skill.  In fact, thats kind of my point.  It seemed like they were designed to be stupidly easy if you have certain augmentations, an annoying/hard if you have others.  Whereas the rest of the game went out of its way to give you tons of options for completing objectives, and then they throw these guys at you which basically you have to just straight up fight.

[tgr]

I have to agree, the first boss fight just completely threw me off the game for the latter half of last week. In fact, I moved on to strategy games instead while I cool down, because my character isn't in any way, shape or form even close to being a fighter as such, and I doubt I'm even close to winning the fight. I guess I'm going to have to see if I can't afford the typhoon just to cheese through the damn thing.

First truly negative thing I can say about the game so far.

[Malakili]

I have to agree, the first boss fight just completely threw me off the game for the latter half of last week. In fact, I moved on to strategy games instead while I cool down, because my character isn't in any way, shape or form even close to being a fighter as such, and I doubt I'm even close to winning the fight. I guess I'm going to have to see if I can't afford the typhoon just to cheese through the damn thing.

First truly negative thing I can say about the game so far.

[tgr]

[Tebonas]

It really was the choice between "try to not get frustrated while dying over and over again" and "put three points into Typhoon, walz up to him and watch him die while you eat a candy bar"

[Threash]

They are really not that hard.  I've played a stealth character the whole way, every boss can be easily cheesed even without typhoon.  Grenades wreck their shit, stun guns stun lock them and if you have neither of those there is always stuff around the room you can use to kill them.  There are very few combat upgrades that make boss fights easier, apart from the typhoon.

[Malakili]

They are really not that hard.  I've played a stealth character the whole way, every boss can be easily cheesed even without typhoon.  Grenades wreck their shit, stun guns stun lock them and if you have neither of those there is always stuff around the room you can use to kill them.  There are very few combat upgrades that make boss fights easier, apart from the typhoon.

Its not just the upgrades, its also the fact that play style dictates what you are carrying.  I barely bothered carrying weapons on me most of the time.  Just a pistol with a few upgrades, which was enough for the when I failed at being sneaky now and again.  Luckily I had a shotgun on me for the third boss or I don't think I would've been able to beat him and may have had to reload a previous save to collect some more guns before heading in.

Anyway, regardless of difficulty, it just seems like odd design regardless to have these boss encounters which didn't really seem to go with the rest of the game's design principles.  Don't get me wrong, like I said, this is definitely a GOTY candidate, its really my only complaint, I loved the hell out of the everything else.