Deus Ex 3. I shit you not.

[Talpidae]

Just started another playthrough and noticed one of the machines in the intro is the 'Noob Accelerator'.

 

[Kail]

Out of interest, how much XP did you guys end the game with? Playing on hard, and powergaming as much as I could I had


Also, which was your ending?


Post-game thoughts

For XP, you've got me beat.

For ending stuff:

[Fabricated]

My ending:

[Ingmar]

So I started! I just finished the first 'mission'.

My feelings so far:

Gameplay:  fun
Plot: interested for more
World: cool
Characterization:  
Voice Acting:  
Graphics (environments): well done
Graphics (character models): not nearly up to standard of environment

EDIT: SCSI adapters? in 2027? 

[Zetor]

I think Jensen just said the first computer-related acronyms he remembered from a Computer Forensics 101 class back when he got his bachelor's. Pritchard's sarcastic "oooh look at you using the big words" reply may indicate that as well 

[apocrypha]

Hmm, my Steam account has been suspended all of a sudden.

Was playing DX on the PC downstairs, took a break to make a coffee, came upstairs to play and got "Account suspended" pop-up. No email about it, no reason given. Now I can't play a game I've fucking paid for. What the fucking fuck? Anyone know how long bullshit like this usually takes Steam to sort out?

Edit: Bah, fucking PayPal decided to flag my payment for DXHR as "suspicious" and refused to process it until Steam responded to their emails. Steam, of course, completely fucking ignored the emails from PayPal and thus locked my account for non-payment. To PayPals credit they released the payment straight away when I phoned them up. Still, to have something like this happen and neither fucking party even bother to send me a single email to notify me that there was a problem pisses me off royally. Both of them can fuck right off, I'm sticking to credit cards and physical copies of games from now on. Steam? Blow it out your ass.

[Talpidae]

There's a steam forum and whatnot.

Unless you think the Illuminati did it.

In which case, SPOILER THAT SHIT.

 

[apocrypha]

This was actually the first full-price game I'd ever purchased on Steam. I've always been wary of digital distribution and always-online DRM for precisely this reason. Seems my wariness was well founded. Still can't play the game I've paid for.

[Talpidae]

I think you found the excuse you were already looking for.  You should be glad.

 

[tgr]

This was actually the first full-price game I'd ever purchased on Steam. I've always been wary of digital distribution and always-online DRM for precisely this reason. Seems my wariness was well founded. Still can't play the game I've paid for.

I've de-disced and bought closer to 300 games now I think, and I've had no problems of that kind. Then again, I've had less problems than a friend of mine who keeps referring to steam as STEAL, and blames steam for not telling us about DRM on the DCS flightsim and not responding to his emails, so I guess I'm just lucky.

vOv

[Lantyssa]

The problem is you used PayPal.  Maybe Steam CSRs didn't respond right away, but it wouldn't have ever been an issue had PayPal not flagged the purchase.  You're blaming the wrong people.

[KallDrexx]

So I added the tactical ops pack to my PS3 version, where do I actually get the sniper rifle?

[apocrypha]

The problem is you used PayPal.  Maybe Steam CSRs didn't respond right away, but it wouldn't have ever been an issue had PayPal not flagged the purchase.  You're blaming the wrong people.

PayPal have 24 hour telephone support, on a local-rate number, and resolved the issue within 5 minutes, once I'd worked out what the problem was.

Steam has failed to respond to the issue in any way at all at every step - no notification (not even an automated email) of a problem, no automated email in response to a ticket opened under the "account suspended" section, no way for me to contact them, nothing I can do at all. This makes me more pissed off with Steam than with PayPal.

Problems happen, mistakes happen, it's inevitable. How you treat your customers when these mistakes & problems happen is what determines whether or not they remain your customers.

So I added the tactical ops pack to my PS3 version, where do I actually get the sniper rifle?

Locations here. Should be in your inventory at the start.

[Miasma]

If you have the sniper rifle at the start I hope they also gave you three praxis points to upgrade your inventory because the thing is huge.

[Rasix]

The gloves have come off in my play through.  Very satisfying.  Although I did burn through all of my assault rifle ammo before I realized I could chuck an emp grenade at a robot.

[Lantyssa]

I've had nary a problem with 100 purchases.  Steam let you play until PayPal flagged it.  PayPal didn't contact you first, they blocked it after the fact, and then you called them.  Sure they dealt with it quickly, and Steam didn't, points off there.

They built their service on getting things to work without human intervention though.  CSRs aren't their strong point.  Unfortunately you found their one weakness because you used a fake bank instead of a real credit agency.  You're talking about an agency that can choose to withhold your money because you looked at them funny.

[Surlyboi]

Finished it this morning.

Game of the fucking year. Even with the  endings.

[apocrypha]

I've had nary a problem with 100 purchases.  Steam let you play until PayPal flagged it.  PayPal didn't contact you first, they blocked it after the fact, and then you called them.  Sure they dealt with it quickly, and Steam didn't, points off there.

They built their service on getting things to work without human intervention though.  CSRs aren't their strong point.  Unfortunately you found their one weakness because you used a fake bank instead of a real credit agency.  You're talking about an agency that can choose to withhold your money because you looked at them funny.

I'm not going to derail this thread any more after this post because derailing is shit.

I'm not happy with either PayPal or Steam. I'm more unhappy with Steam because of the total lack of customer service. Steam are as much a fake games distribution service as PayPal are a fake bank. The double standards you're exhibiting here are very apparent. You're all happy to bitch and moan til you go blue in the face about things like UbiSoft's DRM but Steam doing the same thing seems perfectly fine to you. And finally the lack of problems that anyone else has had with Steam in no way whatsoever affects the problem I am having, I don't know what makes anyone think "it works for me!" is a useful thing to say in any way.

On topic, I want to finish this game. But I fucking can't. This makes me annoyed.

[Hawkbit]

I've been buried with schoolwork, so this is taking some time to sit down with.  But holy hell, the 15min here, 15min there is awesome!  Best game I've bought this year so far.

[Threash]

I've had nary a problem with 100 purchases.  Steam let you play until PayPal flagged it.  PayPal didn't contact you first, they blocked it after the fact, and then you called them.  Sure they dealt with it quickly, and Steam didn't, points off there.

They built their service on getting things to work without human intervention though.  CSRs aren't their strong point.  Unfortunately you found their one weakness because you used a fake bank instead of a real credit agency.  You're talking about an agency that can choose to withhold your money because you looked at them funny.

I'm not going to derail this thread any more after this post because derailing is shit.

I'm not happy with either PayPal or Steam. I'm more unhappy with Steam because of the total lack of customer service. Steam are as much a fake games distribution service as PayPal are a fake bank. The double standards you're exhibiting here are very apparent. You're all happy to bitch and moan til you go blue in the face about things like UbiSoft's DRM but Steam doing the same thing seems perfectly fine to you. And finally the lack of problems that anyone else has had with Steam in no way whatsoever affects the problem I am having, I don't know what makes anyone think "it works for me!" is a useful thing to say in any way.

On topic, I want to finish this game. But I fucking can't. This makes me annoyed.

There is no double standard.  Lots of people have used and found Paypal to be a piece of shit service, lots of people have used and found Steam to be a great service.  The problem is using Paypal for anything, always.

[Ingmar]

Steam doing the same thing

Steam is not doing the same thing. Perhaps Square/Enix is, but Steam lets you play tons of game offline, it is up to the studio, not Steam.

[apocrypha]

Argh. I'm not trying to defend PayPal *other* than for the one thing they did right here - they had good customer service. So far, as far as I'm concerned, Steam has NONE.

If I had bought this game on a DVD instead of through Steam I'd be playing it now. If I'd paid for that DVD with PayPal I'd still be fucking playing it right now. If either Steam or PayPal had sent me ONE FUCKING EMAIL saying "Hey, fucker, there's a problem with this payment" I'd have sorted it out before Steam shut my fucking account off.

Lots of people having good experiences with Steam makes NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE to my ability to play the game I fucking paid for right fucking now.

PayPal = cocksuckers.
Steam = cocksuckers.

I'm not using *either* of them ever again. Fuck them and fuck anyone trying to defend them, you're fucking morons if you can't see that this isn't a fucking shit way to treat customers.

[Talpidae]

And, it turns out, that the start mission called 'Rescue the Hostages' has a room full of hostages that I missed on the first playthrough.

Um.

Ok.

Whatever next.

[Lucas]

First DLC announced: "The Missing Link" (SPOILERS IN THE DESCRIPTION, but no endgame stuff, I think)

http://www.deusex.com/news/The-Missing-Link

[Goreschach]

Argh. I'm not trying to defend PayPal *other* than for the one thing they did right here - they had good customer service. So far, as far as I'm concerned, Steam has NONE.

If I had bought this game on a DVD instead of through Steam I'd be playing it now. If I'd paid for that DVD with PayPal I'd still be fucking playing it right now. If either Steam or PayPal had sent me ONE FUCKING EMAIL saying "Hey, fucker, there's a problem with this payment" I'd have sorted it out before Steam shut my fucking account off.

Lots of people having good experiences with Steam makes NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE to my ability to play the game I fucking paid for right fucking now.

PayPal = cocksuckers.
Steam = cocksuckers.

I'm not using *either* of them ever again. Fuck them and fuck anyone trying to defend them, you're fucking morons if you can't see that this isn't a fucking shit way to treat customers.

Go away.

[K9]

 

Sorry you had a bad experience with Steam apocrypha, all I can say is that it doesn't tally with my experience, but such are the things eh?

[rk47]

...damn i wish my 4 energy bars would regen... i really want to chain sucker punch people. Is it THAT hard to find a candy vending machine in 2037?

[tgr]

Candy is bad for your health, you know.

[cironian]

Ever since 2016, candy is a controlled substance. Dystopic future and all that.

That's why apart from the "medical candy" available at LIMB you can only find small amounts of the stuff hidden away by your fellow sugar addicts.

[Xilren's Twin]

Ever since 2016, candy is a controlled substance. Dystopic future and all that.

That's why apart from the "medical candy" available at LIMB you can only find small amounts of the stuff hidden away by your fellow sugar addicts.

Can't say I was suprised.  Deus Ex has that way of making you suspect everyone and everything is part of some nefarious plot....because it IS!

[Talpidae]

First DLC announced: "The Missing Link" (SPOILERS IN THE DESCRIPTION, but no endgame stuff, I think)

http://www.deusex.com/news/The-Missing-Link

Wait, what ?  When did that happen ?

[Lantyssa]

Wait, what ?  When did that happen ?

[Talpidae]

Sigh.  And then Bobby woke up in the shower.

[Threash]

Argh. I'm not trying to defend PayPal *other* than for the one thing they did right here - they had good customer service. So far, as far as I'm concerned, Steam has NONE.

If I had bought this game on a DVD instead of through Steam I'd be playing it now. If I'd paid for that DVD with PayPal I'd still be fucking playing it right now. If either Steam or PayPal had sent me ONE FUCKING EMAIL saying "Hey, fucker, there's a problem with this payment" I'd have sorted it out before Steam shut my fucking account off.

Lots of people having good experiences with Steam makes NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE to my ability to play the game I fucking paid for right fucking now.

PayPal = cocksuckers.
Steam = cocksuckers.

I'm not using *either* of them ever again. Fuck them and fuck anyone trying to defend them, you're fucking morons if you can't see that this isn't a fucking shit way to treat customers.

You didn't actually PAY Steam, making you NOT A CUSTOMER.

[Ingmar]

The thing is, I've had payment failures happen occasionally for whatever reason and I never saw ACCOUNT SUSPENDED. That's just weird.