Deus Ex 3. I shit you not.

[geldonyetich2]

Things happen, but they're terrible enough that you quickly repress the memory.  Wikipedia can tell you about the plot of DX2 better than I can recollect.  Apparently when I finished the game I turned Earth into the Borg Collective.

[Zane0]

I'm still waiting for the Deus Ex movie.

[Fabricated]

For some reason all 3 endings in the original game happened, the world communication hub was whacked, JC merged with the AI, and the Illuminati did some vague shit.

In the end, regardless of who you helped throughout the game (also no matter who you help or how many of their members you kill, you are always offered missions by those groups) you get the option of doing the following:

1. Doing some more vague merger bullshit so the entire world can become biomodified, democratic, and cleaned up (there's some nasty nanobot pollution I guess).
2. Help the Illuminati again.
3. Turn the world over to some fanatic guy with a cause I can't recall. I think whoever it was wanted to go back to pure humanity?

and 4, which sounds like the best option: Kill everyone since they are all fucking crazy so no force can win.

However if you do that one it causes armageddon.

Alternatively you can go into Unatco's ruins, grab the flag from ol' Manderlay's office, take it into the bathroom and flush the toilet to get the dance party ending. This is the best ending.

[schild]

God it's so shameful. But it is.

Fucking dance party was great.

[Fabricated]

And I will again state that Deus Ex 2 is one of the worst games ever made from just the standpoint of how INCREDIBLY disappointing it was.

It was an ugly, poorly made game. The areas were cramped to the point where you can't tell a city apart from an underground base from a hotel from a cave from an open island. Everything is purple and all the environments look like real-time rendered 1993 CG you'd find in a budget sci-fi point and click video adventure title. This is what pissed me off the most. I can't explain how bad the environments are. You can barely see the fucking SKY and you're supposed to be walking around Chicago, but you're not really walking around Chicago but this bizzaro alleyway where the badguy HQ, the mutant sewers, the gigantic apartment building with only 3 apartments in it, and cramped night club are all within about 30 feet of eachother and contained by canyon-like walls. Also it's designed on a series of 90 degree angles because the devs somehow managed to take a good piece of tech (the Unreal 2 engine) and make it into what has to be the worst game engine of all time. The whole game is a claustrophobic's nightmare.

The weapons were made of 5-10 polygons and a poorly rendered glow effect and used a nebulous ammo bar with no numbers. None of these weapons need reloaded and about 3 were useful. Grenades bounce like whiffleballs and melee weapons are largely useless until you get JC's Dragon Tooth sword that he left as a doorstop in his fortress of solitude.

Enemies turned into wonderful pieces of modern art after being killed from behind because they got snagged on the environment while impotently running in circles yelling a list of 5-6 canned phrases. You could pick the bodies up and throw them into piles of boxes to watch them get turned into a pretzel and then watch the game crash to desktop after the poorest use of the Havok physics engine EVER can't figure out what to do so it makes the boxes and the bodies rotate at 50000 miles per hours and blast off in every direction at infinite speed, possibly traveling through time into your other saves.

You blunder forward basically crawling through vents or storming the front while killing everything and picking up all shinies, and when the chapter is over you get the option to pick from the useless AI plot device pilot or the hotshot dick-in-a-tophat, which is basically picking from two different landing points and extraction points: Awful or Terrible.

Did I mention that the game sucks? Because it does.

[Strazos]

I don't think I got more than 2 hours into DX2. And I loved the everloving hell out of the original.

I actually still have the discs. I keep thinking I destroyed them out of rage, but I never quite had the heart to toss away money on purpose like that.

[Tebonas]

Deus Ex 2 was a crappy game. I got it bundled with one of my graphic cards and still couldn't manage to finish it despite it being free. Now that I read the plot, I know I missed nothing.

[Miasma]

I liked how every time I zoned the entire game would minimize to my windows desktop, change resolution, then maximize again and change the resolution back.  That's the kind of jarring switching back to reality I need when I'm trying to immerse myself in a shitty sci-fi plotline.

[HaemishM]

They should let it die. Now instead of later. Or go back in time and abort Deus Ex 2.

Yes. Eidos is apparently floundering around looking for any half-way decent IP to make something into. Invisible War was Capital Shit. Shity shit shit shit, especially when compared to the original. Eidos just wants to fuck this corpse until it's good and proper dead.

[geldonyetich2]

Maybe they should, you know, sort of pretend the events in DX2 never happened...

[eldaec]

Maybe they should, you know, sort of pretend the events in DX2 never happened...

New DX3 intro movie leaked on youtube.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

I just wanted to take this chance to say that the round house kick in Track and Field 2 was fucking broken. Jumping Round House killed face. 

[Murgos]

Maybe they should, you know, sort of pretend the events in DX2 never happened...

New DX3 intro movie leaked on youtube.

Without clicking I'm going to guess this is a Rickroll.

[eldaec]

Maybe they should, you know, sort of pretend the events in DX2 never happened...

New DX3 intro movie leaked on youtube.

Without clicking I'm going to guess this is a Rickroll.

It is no longer six months ago. You can click.

[Megrim]

Maybe they should, you know, sort of pretend the events in DX2 never happened...

New DX3 intro movie leaked on youtube.

Without clicking I'm going to guess this is a Rickroll.

It is no longer six months ago. You can click.

Hm, maybe they did learn something from DX2. I like the emphasis on characterisation.

[Murgos]

I sooo don't believe you.   

[Megrim]

Meh, your loss.

[rk47]

thats the problem with multiple end-game sequels lots of gamers would segregate themselves into 'I love ending A, why the hell the other one gets picked?' They need to establish a canon and stick with it while retaining the choices.

[geldonyetich2]

My guess is that somebody thought it would be hard to have all three endings and have the player specify which through beginning game dialogue.

Should that be the case, I blame them for lack of trying.

[rk47]

u mean something like KOTOR2:
'Yeah Revan won man, he totally like...turned to Light side Dude.'
'No, he fucked the galaxy. And he is a woman, not a man; wtf you smokin, Atton?'
'I don't really give a shit, gimme the canon and let's get some exp!'

[geldonyetich2]

Exactly.  It's not hard, it just takes a little planning and variable parts of the game.

[Sky]

Rickrolling is so six months ago, as mentioned.

Let's all get in the christmas spirit!

[Yegolev]

I agree rickrolling is part of the dim past, along with the release of Warhawk and Bioshock, however I have found that DX3 is really, really going to have an ending song, since Portal stuck its head into the gaming industry's bedroom door and yelled "WAKE UP FUCKERS!"

In fact, there was a point where they were going for a more, uh, stylized look and in this original version they put lyrics up on the screen.  Unfortunately they decided to go with something more mainstream.

[Yegolev]

There is a planned Maple Story crossover, so yay!

[bhodi]

Yeg... wow. Just... wow. I had heard the song (OC remix? I don't remember) but that just brings it to life. Maybe it should be the new gamer-related rickroll.

[Yegolev]

I've been using the Sims one for quite a while, I just don't do that to too many people.

I spent the rest of the day humming the song.

[geldonyetich2]

Personally, this is my favorite gamer-like rickroll.  (Please disregard the pedophilic undertones.)

[Yegolev]

What?  Did you not click on my links?  I didn't smile even once watching that crappy Bioshock one.  I found a better one in about three seconds.

[schild]

Tifa and Daredevil. Crossovers that should happen but never will.

[Yegolev]

snuh

[Kitsune]

Deus Ex 2 is hugely improved by the fan-made mods out there for it.  After getting the shitty HUD out of your way and replacing the muddy Xbox textures with better high-res stuff, the game stops making your eyes bleed and can safely be enjoyed.

The trick is, you have to enjoy it as a generic future FPS-RPG and not as having any relationship with Deus Ex.  If you can't get over the game's name, you'll just be bitter about it forever.

[geldonyetich2]

  If you can't get over the game's name, you'll just be bitter about it forever.

The same could be said about the original Star Wars Galaxies.

That's why, if you're stuck making a licensed game, you either follow the formula of that license or find yourself up the creek and in the middle of a pedobear cthulu three-way.

 

[DraconianOne]

The trick is, you have to enjoy it as a generic future FPS-RPG and not as having any relationship with Deus Ex.  If you can't get over the game's name, you'll just be bitter about it forever.

I've never looked at any of the mods for it having never had any interest in going back to play it.  The graphics didn't particularly bother me anyway.  However, unless they fundamentally changed the gameplay then it will still be a generic future FPS (and I hesitate to say RPG) that's mediocre at best.  It wasn't the fact that it changed a lot of what was good about DX but the fact that the balance was all wrong and the game play mechanics were, well, crap.  It just bored me as a game even without the relationship to DX.  The fact that it was a sequel just added to the disappointment.

[Yegolev]

I figure I can save some hassle and play Psi-Ops.  That game was fun.  Also it had amazing framerate on the Xbox.

[DraconianOne]

All this talk of Deus Ex got me reminiscing. 

Last time I was in Hong Kong, I made sure I went sightseeing:


Tonnochy Road


Wan Chai Market


Wan Chai Temple

Versalife doesn't exist but somewhere I have pictures of the Manulife building.