IGN Top 100 Games of ALL TIME, 2007 edition

[Yegolev]

I see there are quite a few Fallout 2 and Diablo II on there.  The fact D2 is beating out D2LoD concerns me somewhat.

[Rasix]

The fact D2 is beating out D2LoD concerns me somewhat.

I doubt some people are making a distinction between the two.  I'm not sure I would have if I had put down D2.

I'm one of the only people I know that really loved D1 but can't stand D2.

 

[bhodi]

I'm one of the only people I know that really loved D1 but can't stand D2.

Me too.

Lego Star Wars is more fun than Tie Fighter.

I disagree with what you said.

I noticed someone put up a spacehulk 3DO game. I never knew it existed, I've played and loved the tabletop version. Now I need to find an emulator and try it out.

[IainC]

I noticed someone put up a spacehulk 3DO game. I never knew it existed, I've played and loved the tabletop version. Now I need to find an emulator and try it out.

That game was ace - I think it was also on the PS1 as well. You could switch from a tactical overview mode to first person view from any of your marines. I played it so much.

[HaemishM]

That Space Hulk game was originally on the PC.

[Yegolev]

I doubt some people are making a distinction between the two.

Part of my concern.  I recall Diablo II being disappointing yet fun, but the expansion was tasty.  I was even tempted to specifically call out Diablo II: Lord of Destruction v1.10, but I'm weird.

[Draegan]

No love for Commander Keen?  Used to love that game.  Best 2D platformer after Mario.  in my opinion.

...wait.  Anyone ever play Commander Keen?

[IainC]

I doubt some people are making a distinction between the two.

Part of my concern.  I recall Diablo II being disappointing yet fun, but the expansion was tasty.  I was even tempted to specifically call out Diablo II: Lord of Destruction v1.10, but I'm weird.

Yeah I referenced the entire DII corpus as one game in the same way as I meant Dawn of War with Winter Assault and Civ IV with Barbarians when I mentioned those games. Expansions are part of the core game and shouldn't be considered as separate entities - especially with regard to MMOs.

[Jain Zar]

That Space Hulk game was originally on the PC.

There are 3 commercial Space Hulk games.
The original DOS game that used Dark Angels' Deathwing Company
The Windows 9x, Saturn, 3D0, and PS1 game that used the Blood Angels
A Cell Phone game.  Apparently only one to have an actual turn based just like the boardgame mode.

[IainC]

That Space Hulk game was originally on the PC.

There are 3 commercial Space Hulk games.
The original DOS game that used Dark Angels' Deathwing Company
The Windows 9x, Saturn, 3D0, and PS1 game that used the Blood Angels
A Cell Phone game.  Apparently only one to have an actual turn based just like the boardgame mode.

I remember an old Amiga game that was a direct port of the board game - complete with dice rolling animations and everything. This would have been about 70 billion years before anyone owned a cellphone so it's likely that the cellphone game is in fact a port of that game into Java or something.

[Hoax]

Yeah I played the Blood Angels version on 9x Windows, that was good times.  It was just you versus 'steelers right? 

D1 > D2:anything

Diablo2 was so graphically dissapointing to me that I could never get that fired up about it.  I would still go play it from time to time if I hadn't lost/broken my discs.  I still have my D1 disc in its original jewel case.

[Zetleft]

Put me in the camp that loved D1 and couldn't even be bothered to finish D2, even bought the expansion in the hopes it would change my mind but just no dice. 

[Sutro]

I played Commander Keen! Good times... but not top 20 material.

[Draegan]

Commander Keen was a personal choice.  One of my all time favorite games growing up. 

[Margalis]

Never liked it.

Star Control 2 is doing surprisingly well, and I've seen Master of Orion 2 a few times as well. I see a lot of 2's in general. Second time's the charm I guess.

[lamaros]

Commander Keen was a personal choice.  One of my all time favorite games growing up. 

Of all the platform games I remember as a kid Commander Keen was ok. Captain Comic was better (http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/game/136). But I hate platform games for the most part. So neither got in my top 20.

I'm one of the only people I know that really loved D1 but can't stand D2.

Me too.

Diablo 2 was awful if you ask me, and Diablo was ok just fun. So I guess I'm of similar feeling too. But without much initial love for the whole genre. Give me Nethack or Adom any day.

[bhodi]

I'm amazed at how many people can't actually read the instructions for the contest.  It's a short list people, with the main one being:

GAME NAME DASH DEVELOPER DASH SYSTEM DASH RELEASE YEAR OPTIONAL COMMENTS

As a tech guy, instructions like that are very important, since it allows you to sort and collate lists with scripts instead of doing it by hand. Since he put IMPORTANT by that specific instruction, I fully expect people not following that format to not be counted.

That means no numbers in front (it's not a numbered list), no "Game name (developer)", or any other odd deviations. Also, if you're lazy enough that you can't even be bothered to look up the relevant information on the games on your list, I'm not sure you even deserve to be counted anyway. It's a speed bump, a curb that denotes a bare minimum sort of effort on your part.

[Strazos]

Heh, thanks. Didn't notice my format was off.

[schild]

Your format is still off. I said to put the comments at the end. Basically, that list thing is going to be a MONSTER SIZED PAIN IN THE ASS because people just can't f'ing read. I hate that. Should've made an online form.

I actually said even less than that:

2. You can, if you REALLY FEEL THE NEED TO VALIDATE YOUR OWN OPINION (psychos), post a brief paragraph.

[Hoax]

I fixt mine, can I have a cookie?   

[Strazos]

So I split my paragraph up.

If you feel the need, Schild, edit the stuff out of my list.

[schild]

If you feel the need, Schild, edit the stuff out of my list.

No, I think you will.

[Margalis]

That means no numbers in front (it's not a numbered list), no "Game name (developer)", or any other odd deviations. Also, if you're lazy enough that you can't even be bothered to look up the relevant information on the games on your list, I'm not sure you even deserve to be counted anyway. It's a speed bump, a curb that denotes a bare minimum sort of effort on your part.

It's not a fucking job, it's something for fun. As I already pointed out the rules make it unscientific so forgive me if I'm too lazy to look up the dates so that it's easier to compile a meaningless invalid list.

If you want something really scientific I have two suggestions:

1. Don't introduce arbitrary rules the invalidate any ranking.
2. Create a web form for people to fill in to deal with formatting issues.

Guess what? I don't feel like looking up exact dates, and I numbered the list so that I could keep track of the numbers. Cry me a river.

[schild]

Hey, I said the dates and developers and such were optional.

I am looking at things like trends in playing habits and favored developers. But I don't want those favored developers to come from nostalgic bullshit, like if someone bought Mario Sunshine adn just thought it was the bees knees. I want them to pick a Mario. Because honestly, you'd think most would have one on their list and it would still be one of the most popular series listed. Even without doubling up on Mario World and Mario 3.

[Jain Zar]

That Space Hulk game was originally on the PC.

There are 3 commercial Space Hulk games.
The original DOS game that used Dark Angels' Deathwing Company
The Windows 9x, Saturn, 3D0, and PS1 game that used the Blood Angels
A Cell Phone game.  Apparently only one to have an actual turn based just like the boardgame mode.

I remember an old Amiga game that was a direct port of the board game - complete with dice rolling animations and everything. This would have been about 70 billion years before anyone owned a cellphone so it's likely that the cellphone game is in fact a port of that game into Java or something.

You are thinking of a different game, Space Crusade.  It had dice rolling animations and is the same basic concept.  Except its not Space Marine Terminators vs Genestealers. Its standard marines vs Necrons, Chaos, Orcs, and Genestealers.  Cept the Necrons were known as Chaos Androids back then...  Ive got that one too.

[geldonyetich2]

I see Psychonauts didn't make the list.  I suppose i can sympathize seeing how I forgot to add it to mine, too.

[schild]

10. Resident Evil 4
9. Final Fantasy III
8. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
7. Super Metroid
6. Half Life 2
5. Super Mario 64 SMB3 should have been here.
4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
3. Civilization II
2. Tetris
1. Super Mario Bros.

Not a bad performance for a top ten from IGN.

[Nerf]

Tetris? Really?  Don't get me wrong, I love the oldschool as much as the next guy, but I just can't see tetris being the second best game ever.  Galaga is infinitely more fun than tetris, although it won't help you organize your closet.

[geldonyetich2]

That's the trouble with Top x lists - "best in what way" remains an unanswered question.  If I had to guess. I'd say a lot of Tetris's #2 position came from, "OMG, remember when that was the game everybody played?  Yeah, Tetris is great."

[schild]

Tetris is still fantastic. There's a reason I got the NAOMI board for my arcade machine.

[cmlancas]

Tons of people I know play Tetris on their cell/ti-83/insert_random_electronic_here.

I'd say it's still that game people love to play. It's just goddamn fun.

Now if I could invent a Pachinko game coupled with Tetris.... 

[stray]

That's the same top 10 list as every other top 10 list.

[Bunk]

10. Resident Evil 4
9. Final Fantasy III
8. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
7. Super Metroid
6. Half Life 2
5. Super Mario 64 SMB3 should have been here.
4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
3. Civilization II
2. Tetris
1. Super Mario Bros.

Not a bad performance for a top ten from IGN.

 

I don't have a problem with the top 3 - Civ 2 should be there. Beyond that though - Four Zeldas, two in the top ten. Two entire games that appeared on the C64 that I can see in that list, and neither of them is M.U.L.E. This list fails.

[Falconeer]

Two entire games that appeared on the C64 that I can see in that list, and neither of them is M.U.L.E. This list fails.

Let's have freak children together.

[schild]

'Freak' was just the word I was looking for.