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Arrrgh
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Reply #70 on: October 29, 2007, 07:54:15 AM

again, he was the PVP guy. He personally didn't know if there was a cap. That doesn't mean they don't have one or if the company has decided or not.

Ok, then the fact that they don't consider guild size a PvP issue is worrisome.

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Reply #71 on: October 30, 2007, 08:54:25 AM

again, he was the PVP guy. He personally didn't know if there was a cap. That doesn't mean they don't have one or if the company has decided or not.

Ok, then the fact that they don't consider guild size a PvP issue is worrisome.



It definitely sounded like they wanted Zerg guilds. He said he expected them to be in the hundreds.
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Reply #72 on: October 30, 2007, 12:41:12 PM

 Ohhhhh, I see. says: what happened to my post?
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Reply #73 on: October 30, 2007, 01:04:43 PM

Please to not be using this thread as self-pimpage. That interview was a one time deal I let slide because it was about AOC and I was too lazy to get one myself.

Renowned Uber Guild Leaders can suck my dick.
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Reply #74 on: October 30, 2007, 01:19:04 PM

He whores himself out on other message boards I frequent as well.  Pain in the ass if you ask me. 
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Reply #75 on: October 30, 2007, 02:53:05 PM

again, he was the PVP guy. He personally didn't know if there was a cap. That doesn't mean they don't have one or if the company has decided or not.

Ok, then the fact that they don't consider guild size a PvP issue is worrisome.

It's not, if you do it right.  There should never be a hard cap; there should simply be incentives for people to splinter off, in-fight, factionalize, and otherwise be unlikely to coalesce into a single giant zerg guild.

It helps if the game encourages the following impulses:

"Man, this guild used to be fun back when it was smaller.  And now X, Y, and Z asshats that I used to hate back in the day are on my team and annoying the hell out of me in guild chat."

"I'm pretty good at this game, I wonder what it'd be like to strike out on my own as my own small guild-leader with some friends, in a relatively obscure corner of the map.  Could be fun..."

"I'm becoming a big fish in a small pond.  There are so many scrubs in my guild now, and they all come whining to me for backup when they get raided.  I know where all their secret hunting/gathering/whatever-ing spots are, and I could make some serious cash hunting them down and looting them than giving them protection they don't deserve".

"Our hunting spots/mines/resources are getting too crowded/scarce.  The more people join our guild, the more I have to share, and the less I get."


Game systems that encourage these sorts of systems will keep the game world in an endlessly shifting flux of alliances, betrayals, regional wars, guild mergers, guild breakups, etc.  A happy dynamism, if you will.

A hard cap is unwelcome and unnecessary.
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Reply #76 on: October 30, 2007, 05:30:07 PM

Good interview, but I gotta ask..did Axem keep a straight face while asking questions about preventing hacking/botting?

I mean..c'mon, he's the heart and soul of Ebonlore.. they've been notorious botters/exploiters in every game they've existed in.  Its all the guild is known for.

EDIT: Thinking of Axem cracked me up so much, I had to go find that voicemail he left on Harm's cellphone after Harm posted the SS of all the "here is how to exploit" threads on the Ebonlore msg boards..goddamn that was funny.  Ah MMO soap operas...it gets ya right in the crotch.


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Reply #77 on: October 30, 2007, 08:35:44 PM

I tend to agree with BigBlack. My logic is that the more you artificially constraint players the more unforseen problems/exploits you create. Thanks for the warning though, Schild. I'll watch what I post.
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Reply #78 on: October 31, 2007, 06:20:00 AM

Please to not be using this thread as self-pimpage. That interview was a one time deal I let slide because it was about AOC and I was too lazy to get one myself.

Renowned Uber Guild Leaders can suck my dick.

LOL I didn't get to see the pulled post...please tell me he didn't call Axem a renowned guild leader.  Ridiculed is more accurate.

Also just to make things more clear, while this guy's show is associated with the Uberguilds Network, Ebonlore and Axem most assuredly are NOT. 
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Reply #79 on: October 31, 2007, 06:22:07 AM

Please to not be using this thread as self-pimpage. That interview was a one time deal I let slide because it was about AOC and I was too lazy to get one myself.

Renowned Uber Guild Leaders can suck my dick.

LOL I didn't get to see the pulled post...please tell me he didn't call Axem a renowned guild leader.  Ridiculed is more accurate.

Also just to make things more clear, while this guy's show is associated with the Uberguilds Network, Ebonlore and Axem most assuredly are NOT. 

Did you know people here don't give a shit about whatever interguild nonsense you have going on?
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Reply #80 on: October 31, 2007, 07:11:34 AM



Did you know people here don't give a shit about whatever interguild nonsense you have going on?


? Get a grip man. 

I don't have any inter-guild nonsense with them, in fact our guilds have never run into each other.  I just thought it was amusing having Axem involved, considering his history. 

You really need to calm down.
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Reply #81 on: October 31, 2007, 07:15:35 AM

Yes, I found it hilarious, too. Oh, wait, no I didn't. I have no idea who Axem is or Ebonlore. So I was curious and googled them. Wow, a guild who plays Vanguard. Yessir, the first though that popped into my head was DAMN YOU ANONYMOUS GUILD PLAYING VANGUARD! YOU CHEEEAAAATEEERRRSSSS!
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Reply #82 on: October 31, 2007, 07:22:04 AM

Yes, I found it hilarious, too. Oh, wait, no I didn't. I have no idea who Axem is or Ebonlore. So I was curious and googled them. Wow, a guild who plays Vanguard. Yessir, the first though that popped into my head was DAMN YOU ANONYMOUS GUILD PLAYING VANGUARD! YOU CHEEEAAAATEEERRRSSSS!

mkay well..it's an mmo msg board, they're fairly well known in the mmo community for hacking their way through eq2 and VG.

I apologize for posting something you did not know.  I'll be certain to check first next time, and only regurgitate that which you deem relevant.
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Reply #83 on: October 31, 2007, 07:34:06 AM

See that you do.
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Reply #84 on: October 31, 2007, 08:26:46 AM

mkay well..it's an mmo msg board, they're fairly well known in the mmo community for hacking their way through eq2 and VG.

I apologize for posting something you did not know.  I'll be certain to check first next time, and only regurgitate that which you deem relevant.

God himself couldn't deem EQ2/Vanguard guild drama to be relevant, even if he wanted to.  It's one of the exceptions to omnipotence, along with that whole "Can God create a rock so heavy He can't lift it?" shebang.
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Reply #85 on: October 31, 2007, 08:38:19 AM

Yes, I found it hilarious, too. Oh, wait, no I didn't. I have no idea who Axem is or Ebonlore. So I was curious and googled them. Wow, a guild who plays Vanguard. Yessir, the first though that popped into my head was DAMN YOU ANONYMOUS GUILD PLAYING VANGUARD! YOU CHEEEAAAATEEERRRSSSS!

mkay well..it's an mmo msg board, they're fairly well known in the mmo community for hacking their way through eq2 and VG.

I apologize for posting something you did not know.  I'll be certain to check first next time, and only regurgitate that which you deem relevant.

Better be careful man, i once saw him go at a guy, just because the guy put a question mark at the front of a sentence. They had to separate him from the corpse with a bonesaw.

So yea, i'm too lazy to read the thread - did they ask the question of why there are like 9837695789345967248905y7928 levels to grind through instead of something reasonable, like 5? Also, why will this game not suck?

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Reply #86 on: October 31, 2007, 10:04:49 AM

Also, why will this game not suck?

It will. Don't worry. Everyone forgets this is Funcom, a synonym for FUBAR. It won't be Shadowbane bad, though.

I have never played WoW.
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Reply #87 on: October 31, 2007, 10:05:04 AM

There's some cranky bastards on this board... lol
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Reply #88 on: October 31, 2007, 10:06:58 AM

 my what do we have here?

Drink your coffee, people.

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Reply #89 on: October 31, 2007, 11:22:58 AM

You really dont want to know what the pedo bear puts in people's coffee...

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Reply #90 on: October 31, 2007, 11:58:25 AM

You really dont want to know what the pedo bear puts in people's coffee...




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Reply #91 on: October 31, 2007, 12:04:04 PM

Yeeeeeessssssss.

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Reply #92 on: October 31, 2007, 12:49:18 PM

There's some cranky bastards on this board... lol


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