NFL Football- It's FANtastic!

[stu]

He loves football and he loves to win, but he loves himself more than anything.

[WayAbvPar]

I remember The Tackle. Super Bowl XXXIV. Sad to see McNair go without a ring.




Also, Chad Johnson is a chucklehead!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgNREzBAnY4

Girls Just Wanna Have Fun

Wow you are a classy fucking idiot.  He got hit so damn hard in that game.

Nobody would ever accuse the guy of being smart but he loves football and he loves to win.  He loves himself too but that comes 3rd which is a great deal better then at least half the #1 WR's in the league.  I dont know why I'm even getting involved, f13 doesn't get sports for shit.  Thats how I feel every time I ever read a sports thread around here...

Give me a goddamned break, your all knowing holiness.

[Paelos]

WR's get hit plenty. In an open field fashion at that.

Not to say there aren't loudmouths, but gtfo out of the football thread if you don't like wide receivers.

Also, you guys are too white for your own good.

Also, I'm as serious as you are. At least I hope.

Yeah they are taking major shots all the time. Oh wait, no. Most of the plays in football, a wideout runs down the field and then runs back to the huddle. Awww, you got touched by the safety? Hell, that's hardly even allowed by the rules anymore because they are pussies. Almost EVERY PLAY a runningback is taking a hit or making a block. Every play an O-line guy is taking a major block in the trenches.

Wideouts are almost as Johnny-One-Job as kickers. They just happen to be out there every play. Run a pattern, try not to fucking drop it, on the 25% chance the QB sees you. That's it. Period. Watch one try to actually block if someone runs their way. It's pure comedy. And yet they have this Jesus walk about the job like it's curing the blind.

[stray]

A RB is getting blocked and forced down more than smacked. Besides that, they're taught to truck once they lose their balance anyways, instead of waiting to get outright slammed down (that more often occurs behind the o line for them i.e. in an open field..and they rarely get caught there).

WR's block too.

I just have to ask... Have you ever even played WR -- I mean, against another good team? Be honest now. That was always my position at least. I know what it feels like to get hit, and it isn't always pleasant. Safety or linebacker, it doesn't matter. Besides that, once you make a TD, you're probably the most hated offensive player on the field, more than the QB even. Everyone wants to hit you harder than usual.

I will definitely give it to the RB position as being a helluva lot more tiring though.

Anyways, I really don't want to get into argument as to which one is more "legimate". It's silly.

[Paelos]

No I played Tight End. You can guess at why I hated Wide Outs because of that. They were usually the fastest but least team-oriented players I'd ever seen. Plus I had to have twice the hands they did just to stay at my position, and be able to block.

[Sauced]

This conversation got weird.  All I was pointing out was this - say whatever you want about Chad Johnson, that clip on the Tubes shows him after a *massive* concussion earned by taken a shot over the middle.  It's an interesting piece of evidence in the "WRs are Pussies" debate.

Being a Bears fan means I know a lot about how not to run a passing game.

[stray]

Well shit man! I figured a tight end would understand at least. Surely you've been hit good at least once. Same kind of hits at least.

[Nebu]

Well shit man! I figured a tight end would understand at least. Surely you've been hit good at least once. Same kind of hits at least.

I played safety in the Big 10.  I enjoyed being on the giving end of a few shots to WR's and TE's.  I have fond memories of quarterbacks throwing high over the middle.  Damnit, now I'm drooling. 

Back to the topic, WR's do take their share of shots.  As a result, the top tier WR's are significanly bigger than they were in my playing days.  At the NFL level they take a lot more abuse than many realize. 

[stray]

[edit] Eh, nevermind. 

[Bunk]

I played safety in the Big 10.  I enjoyed being on the giving end of a few shots to WR's and TE's.  I have fond memories of quarterbacks throwing high over the middle.  Damnit, now I'm drooling. 
 

Great, now I'm picturing Gordon Ramsay running accross a football field, screaming "It's Fucking Raw!!!" just before hitting someone.

[Bandit]

Oh, football news?  Anyone want Johnson, Cincinnati's fed-up with him.. just like that no-goonick Corey Dillon! Feh, and what happened to HIM when he left Cinci because he bitched like a 3 year old? 

I'll just be happy to see Johnson out my division.      I know there's a LOT of talk that he might end up in Philly, but that could be wishful thinking on their part. 

You think Philly would want a possible Terell 2.0 situation?  I have my doubts.

I think it's a bit funny to see T.J. Houshmandzadeh (championship) giving his 2 cents on the subject.  He is basically saying that Chad is too much of a distraction to keep right now.  I think TJ wouldn't mind becoming the #1 man in town (could be argued he is now with 112 receptions) - with Chris Henry about to be suspended for life, and Chad Johnson "larger than lifie"ing himself out of Cincy.  He may be right, it may be right for the team to move on...but players shouldn't be able to pull this shit year after year.

I think the previous argument is fucked-up IMO.  I won't argue that many WR's are whiny pre-madonna bitches, but a big difference between a bitch and a pussy. Anquan Boldin, Hines Ward, Steve Smith, Roy Williams are far from pussies.

What's got my interest right now in the NFL is the Draft and the controversy over the having the #1 or one of the first 5 picks.  It's out of control, when a rookie (Jemarcus Russel)  can hold a team hostage, then be given a bigger contract than the NFL Defensive Player of the Year (Bob Sanders)...without even taking a snap? Crazy. Gaines Adams making more than Strahan? Crazy.  Great article in ESPN Mag right now about the situation.

[Paelos]

Well shit man! I figured a tight end would understand at least. Surely you've been hit good at least once. Same kind of hits at least.

Yeah, I did, and yeah they take hits. I'm not saying they don't take occasional brutal punishment. It's football, not Jenga. What I am saying is that on offense they take the least contact of any player on the field, unless your O-line is fucking godly and your QB is built like a behemoth.

It's not really about that though. The hits was a side issue thing, and I'm content to let that issue of it go. It was the idea that they were curing cancer by catching passes, and fucking hotdogging in the endzone like morons. The coach would light them up for it every time, but it wouldn't stop them. Fuck the haters, yo, we're out to get ours, etc.

It's that kind of shit. I respect the hell out of any WR who is good at what they do and doesn't play into that nonsense. Jerry Rice, Wes Welker (because he's tiny and white but still in the NFL), Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Steve Smith, Hines Ward, etc.

My favorite player is still Ben Watson because of the Georgia Bulldog TE connection. I think he's a great guy having gone to school with him and known him through his girlfriend at the time who is now his wife. We were both in the Georgia Leadership Scholars program together.

[cmlancas]

I read an interesting article a few years back that found a correlation between loudmouth WRs and higher paying contracts. Not sure if I buy into the article, but I should try and dig it up.

[Falconeer]

Maybe not the right place to post this and I am sure it has been posted elsewhere already, but being unable to find it I wonder: anyone of you guys playing Goal Line Blitz?

Not much to play there actually (although you can be a Owner/Manager/Coach or a Player (or a multitude of them), it's all about bantering over the boards and hoping to win. But somehow, lots of fun. Especially if your team ends up in the League Superbowl (which is tomorrow, 1pm) upsetting the only undefeated and smack-talking team and you've been the hero of the match with 2 interceptions.

There's a EVE-kind of logic so the sooner you get into the game the stronger you'll be over new players, so if you plan to check it do it as soon as you can. Season one only started 20 days ago and Season 2 is starting in 3 days.

[Rasix]

This necro-post is brought to you by the following statement:

Fuck Brett Favre. 

[Nebu]

Fuck Brett Favre. 

What now?  I don't see any new news on him. 

[Chimpy]

This necro-post is brought to you by the following statement:

Fuck Brett Favre. 

Is there some news that would cause me to go all Nerf on your ass for that comment about "The Man^TM "?

[Rasix]

Buzz is that he's told people he wants to play.  Which in all likelihood means it's now a certainty he'll be back.  Go find your clipboard, Mr. Rodgers.

[Nebu]

Buzz is that he's told people he wants to play.  Which in all likelihood means it's now a certainty he'll be back.

Can't really blame him.  Especially with guys like Testaverde around as an example.  Hell, I would have played football until today if it weren't for silly little things like health and eligibility. 

[Chimpy]

Buzz is that he's told people he wants to play.  Which in all likelihood means it's now a certainty he'll be back.  Go find your clipboard, Mr. Rodgers.

If he comes back, it would have to be as a starter from day one. Can't let the streak break to be backup to your protege.

And if he does come back, damn I will need to get a TV before September I guess!

[Rasix]

How many goddamn Brett Favre coronation seasons do I have to sit through? He retired. He cried on national TV.  Tears mean no take backs, damnit.

 

My mouth is agape in horror with the thought of having to listen to Chris Berman talk about Brett Favre for another season. 

[Chimpy]

How many goddamn Brett Favre coronation seasons do I have to sit through? He retired. He cried on national TV.  Tears mean no take backs, damnit.

 

Are you, perchance, a Bears fan?

[Rasix]

No, just someone that is really, really tired of the Brett Favre retirement epic.

I do have a Bears T-shirt, however.  Wife bought me one on a business trip.

[Nebu]

My mouth is agape in horror with the thought of having to listen to Chris Berman talk about Brett Favre for another season. 

Don't forget the Favre man-love trough that is John Madden. 

[HaemishM]

Fuck, I love me some Brett Favre, but I do not want to see him comeback. Once you hang it up, really, just learn to hang it up. Don't be Michael Jordan. Know when to stop. Even if he would be better than many of his younger peers, he still wouldn't be what made him so good.

[WayAbvPar]

He is like a horror movie villain. It will take a beheading to end this.

[Paelos]

Fuck, I love me some Brett Favre, but I do not want to see him comeback. Once you hang it up, really, just learn to hang it up. Don't be Michael Jordan. Know when to stop. Even if he would be better than many of his younger peers, he still wouldn't be what made him so good.

I would agree that he coming back now seems shitty. You sat there and poured your heart out to the public and we all had a good awww moment over it. Now, you shit on that moment if you walk back out there. We all knew he was still "young" and could play.

I hope he listens to his family and doesn't do this. I can't believe his wife thinks this is a good idea.

[Sky]

Maybe he'll go play baseball for a while.

[Draegan]

I just glanced through this whole thread and I have to say reading Haem's posts was pure comedy.  I'm just sad that the thread ended really with shitty talk with Tom Brady been a dad and no comments on the playoffs.  (Maybe it's a different thread I have to search for?)

Anyway good stuff Haem.

[Trippy]

The Brett Favre thing is getting really ugly really fast.

[Sauced]

Well, the second they release him, he signs with Minnesota and it would get *really* ugly.  If Farve wants to go back on his retirement this quickly, they have every right to control the impact on their franchise that his return represents.  They should be able to get some draft picks for him, at least.

[Triforcer]

Well, the second they release him, he signs with Minnesota and it would get *really* ugly.  If Farve wants to go back on his retirement this quickly, they have every right to control the impact on their franchise that his return represents.  They should be able to get some draft picks for him, at least.

Nobody is going to give draft picks for a one-year guy.  The Packers are being incredibly stupid about this.  They'll fight and fight and eventually release him, only Favre will hate them and never want to appear in Green Bay for so much as a goodwill visit ever again. 

[HaemishM]

Jesus, why can't Favre just retire? Why does he have to do this every year? It got real old two years ago, and got better last year because he didn't leave everyone hanging. This year though... come on, the organization has already moved on, as they should. The team should get something for him if he wants to come back and doesn't want to do it on their terms. They have him under contract.

I love Brett Favre, but hang it up. Please. Don't make this an ugly soap opera.

[Rasix]

Interview on FoxNews at 10pm ET with Greta Van Susteren.    

Best part is the advertisement for "Brett Favre: The Tribute" next to the article for this.

I would like the Packers to stick to their guns for this.  Seems less possible every single day, but I have hope.

[Paelos]

I don't think Farve actually wanted to come back to begin with, but then the Packers had to fuck the whole thing up and say he COULDN'T come back. Throw out the fact that it's a stupid way of dealing with anyone normal, they didn't seem to think about the legions of fans that would take offense to this as well. Of course he CAN come back.

Still, Favre sounds like an ass in the interview.