TF2 Dedicated Server

[NiX]

I can see the enemy radar being used a lot. I notice there's a lot of people who just whip around and start lobbing shit at me as a spy. Even disguised. The worst part is I've watched them and they don't do it to anyone else. No tinfoil hat, but it's odd.

[Ookii]

I'm honestly going to go and download and use these at some random pub server, the best way to detect these things is to use them yourself for an hour, then they're easy to spot.

[WayAbvPar]

It's not team stacking when we're not a clan, and some people are....not as experienced with the game.

n00b question, but.. what's "team stacking"?

Everyone who's in 'the know' joining blue when the game starts.

Or it could be described as f13ers, freshfruit, bladeweaver, and dannyb on the same team, which happens more often than not.

This is why I like to play on the F13 team; I can mitigate their advantage and make the game more fair with my 1337 non-skilz.

[MrHat]

Or /kick.

[zubey]

I'm honestly going to go and download and use these at some random pub server, the best way to detect these things is to use them yourself for an hour, then they're easy to spot.

Maybe it's the scaredy-cat in me, but I wouldn't do this.  If Valve *does* manage to track any of these cheats, you may find yourself banned4life.

[Ookii]

I'm honestly going to go and download and use these at some random pub server, the best way to detect these things is to use them yourself for an hour, then they're easy to spot.

Maybe it's the scaredy-cat in me, but I wouldn't do this.  If Valve *does* manage to track any of these cheats, you may find yourself banned4life.

Yeah, might not be such a good idea.  Of course I could un-VAC one of our servers and allow cheats, that would work.

[Prospero]

I'd still be scared. I've heard rumors of people being nailed for just having the cracks installed, although they were purely rumors.

[WayAbvPar]

I say we just start booting people on mere suspicion. Like our own little Gitmo! 

[Strazos]

For the record, I'm the one who said something to Ookii.

Now, I'm not saying Jfish is or is not cheating. Never having used cheats myself, I wouldn't necessarily know what to look for....

That being said, I was the only f13 person on the other evening, and a bunch of the pubbers were complaining about him; I too was somewhat annoyed by his antics, but at first I just wrote it off as skill. Anyway, I then proceeded to spec him for the better part of an hour.

Now, I did not notice his health ever go up automagically. A lot of the time, he had a pocket medic with him, or just ran back for health. And sometimes, he would just die. But, I did notice something odd with his rocket jumping....

He's either the best rocket jumper I've seen yet in TF2, or he's macroing. I'm going with option 2. I would hazard to guess that he has the macro bound to his fire button, because even when firing normally against a target, his model would be jumping around like a spaz. That's the most I was able to come up with; his rocket shots were fairly accurate, but as is the nature of the weapon, not unbelievably accurate. At best, I would say Jfish is a dishonest player; I've always loathed macros such as this.



Oh, and I didn't know about the sniper cheat. I've never used it, if anyone is wondering (feel free to waste time specing me  )...though, it would explain some of the bullshit snipers I get tagged by every now and then.


PS; Any word on making additional admins beside Ookii and Schild?

[Samwise]

Some of the pre-Steam 3rd-party cheat detectors did work by looking for incriminating file names (whether or not they contained anything dangerous or were doing anything while the game was running).  I accidentally got myself banned from a server once because I'd missed some random OGC config file (entirely innocuous on its own) when wiping it from my system.  Oopsie.

I suspect VAC goes by what's in memory rather than what happens to be lying around your hard drive, in which case that wouldn't happen.  Then again, I don't think I'd want to risk it.

[Ookii]

PS; Any word on making additional admins beside Ookii and Schild?

Maybe...

 

EDIT: All mods on f13 are admins on TF2.

[Samwise]

He's either the best rocket jumper I've seen yet in TF2, or he's macroing. I'm going with option 2. I would hazard to guess that he has the macro bound to his fire button, because even when firing normally against a target, his model would be jumping around like a spaz.

What the hell sort of macro would do that?

It would be fairly trivial to write a rocket jump macro that aims your view down, jumps, and fires with a single button press (not something I would consider cheating in any way, btw, any more than binding "build a dispenser" to a key press would be cheating), but there's no reason having such a macro would do anything to your normal attacks; if you bound that macro to your fire button you'd just end up shooting your own feet off all the time.  It sounds more like he just likes to jump around a lot.

Also, what quality defines a superhuman rocket jumper?  Either you get off the ground or you don't.  As long as you aim at your feet (i.e. STRAIGHT DOWN) instead of a little bit in front of your feet and you jump a little bit before you fire, you go up.  The hardest part is starting your jump from the right place, and a macro isn't going to help you with that.

(edit) Oh, I get it, the macro handles the "timing" involved in jumping and shooting.  Meh.  That's not the part most people screw up.  Doesn't even seem worth macroing.

[Ookii]

He's either the best rocket jumper I've seen yet in TF2, or he's macroing. I'm going with option 2. I would hazard to guess that he has the macro bound to his fire button, because even when firing normally against a target, his model would be jumping around like a spaz.

What the hell sort of macro would do that?

Here is the script.

alias +rjump "+jump;+duck;wait;+attack"
alias -rjump "-jump;-attack;wait;wait;wait;-duck"
bind "mouse2" "+rjump"

This macro WILL jump and fire the rocket. It WILL NOT look down for
you. It seems Valve has disabled the +lookdown command.

The above macro works off of the MOUSE2 button, but you can change it to
whatever you want.

To use this macro...

1. Goto the program files/steam/steamapps/username/team fortress
2/tf/cfg folder
- username = your steam log-on, so my folder is nevus2004. Yours will be
different.

2. Create a file with notepad in this folder. Copy and paste the macro.

3. Save the file rj.cfg in this folder.
- you can name it whatever you want, but it must be *.cfg for the game
to read it.

4. Start TF2

5. Once you get on a server press the ~ button to bring down the console.
- you must enable the developer console using options-keyboard-advanced
from the main menu

6. Type exec rj.cfg and close the console. You are good to go.

A few tips. In the command bind "mouse2" can be any key that you want to bind it to. When you get to the .cgf folder you will see that windows shows a .cfg file as a different icon type from a notepad file. Be sure to save the file as .cfg. Mine didn't work the first time so did it a little different. I had to open the .cfg, clear the contents, place the script there and then re save it as rj.cfg to make it work. (be sure to change the name so you don't save over your cfg file.

Disclaimer: This script most likely does not do what Straz was saying earlier.  Thank you for your time.

[Strazos]

I was thinking of a macro that would get the timing down for the player. Possibly correcting their view after they jump for them.

Also, I thought he was a pretty good jumper because, on granary....you know that outdoor area between points 1 and 2, and between 2 and 3? He could traverse most of that area in a single jump. Never seen it done before.


Also, he was causing an obscene amount  of havoc in DB. I'm not sure what jumping does for hit detection, but for whatever reason I had a hell of a time hitting the kid.

EDIT: Like I said, I didn't notice him getting health back unnaturally, or not taking damage at all...

Then again, I was watching mostly on Granary....he caused way more trouble on DB.

[eldaec]

jumping around like a spaz.

Isn't that what all Soliders do all the time?

You know those people in MMOGs who have to jump on the spot even when you are sat about waiting for the group to get together? They're the people who grow up to be TF2 soldiers.

[Rasix]

So, is this what I'm doing wrong when I play soldier?  I can't rocket jump worth shit.

My vacation completely destroyed my already pathetic skills.  Goddamn I'm bad right now.

[Samwise]

It sounds dumb, but really, the big thing is aiming directly at your feet.  Here is the step by step rocket jumping guide:

1) Pull your mouse toward you until your crosshairs stop moving down.
2) Jump.
3) Shoot.

You can have as big of a gap between 1 and 2 as you like as long as you don't mind not being able to see where you're going.  I usually start pointing at my feet when I'm about two seconds from liftoff.  The gap between 2 and 3 should be about as long as it takes you to say "Hup!"; the key thing is to have the rocket blast go off when you're travelling UP, not DOWN.  For best results you want it to go off right at the apex of your jump, but it doesn't matter that much.

[Sutro]

Unrelated to the rocket jumping/haxxoring discussion:

PLEASE for the love of god take Orange off of the map rotation. It's awful awful awful awful. awful.

-Sutro

[schild]

Yea, we're planning on it.

[Sky]

Oh, yeah. Reason #483 I dislike online gaming: cheaters. Ruined BF2 (well, combined with smacktards).

[schild]

VAC is pretty good at stopping cheaters. All of the listed cheats will probably be wrecked before we could get around to banning people.

[Rasix]

I've been seeing some really fucked up stuff with demomen recently.

[schild]

You gonna elaborate there chief?

[Rasix]

You gonna elaborate there chief?

Super fast sticky grenade shooting seems to be reality at this point.  Saw a few players shooting those out faster than seemed possible.   Saw some sketchy pipebomb jumping also.  May have just been a macro with that one, but it was on the run (without really pausing to shoot) and they flew farther and higher than any soldier I've seen.

[MrHat]

The sticky bombs do launch you waaaaay the hell farther than the rockets do.

[Samwise]

The stickies can be launched pretty dang fast if you don't need to get them very far.  And yes, sticky jumping done right will just about put you into orbit.

[Yegolev]

I think what you saw was people getting better at demomen.  I'd have to see what you are talking about as far as fast stickies but I can (or: could before my vacation) lay down three (all you usually need...ed?) pretty quickly.  For the record, I'm not much of a pipebomb jumper, I tend to kill myself on the landing.

[DraconianOne]

You guys sound like you know what you're talking about so I think I'll stick to my n00b servers for now.

If you do see me, I'm likely going to be under my old Quakeworld alias of Deadloss - that being about the last time I ever played MP games of this sort. 

[schild]

You should just join the f13 server. Playing with people who know who use in game chat makes you learn REAL FAST.

We don't yell at you for any reason other than love though.

[Ookii]

Play on our servers, it keeps the out derelicts.

And you'll get good fast.

[schild]

We need to rename the Ivory Tower.

It's about as appealing as dead fish.

F13's Server for Dead Fish.

[Yegolev]

F13's Server for Kids Who Can't Read Good

[DraconianOne]

You should just join the f13 server. Playing with people who know who use in game chat makes you learn REAL FAST.

We don't yell at you for any reason other than love though.

You can yell.  I'm deaf.


And a mute.


Also blind and fingerless - which explains a lot about my playing style. 

Also, I don't read too good. 

[Ookii]

Let's post really fast back to back!

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F13.net's - No AWP/Auto - WRONG GAME
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[schild]

F13.net's Boinker's Paradise + F13.net - Medic! Medic! Medic! Medic! =

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