Hellgate London Alpha

[Morfiend]

What is this source crap? It's an MMORPG. This thread is in the MMORPG forum. It's made of fucking angel wings and loot.

but I'm starting to doubt my co-workers game reviewing skills because what he's saying does not match what everyone else is saying.

Remember the people playing are under NDA. I have a lot to say when it drops. I dont think Angel Wings will factor in. In fact, remove Angel Wings from schilds post, and its much more accurate.

[murdoc]

It's made of fucking and loot?

NOW IT'S EVEN MORE AWESOME SOUNDING

[schild]

It's made of fucking and loot?

NOW IT'S EVEN MORE AWESOME SOUNDING

It's made of motherfucking.

[Sky]

INVAAAAADE!

[Morfiend]

This is so true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5njrLRCImk

[Musashi]

Delicious Cake!

[Tige]

According to firingsquad.com H:GL has gone gold with the possibility of a demo tomorrow.

[Ironwood]

Does that mean someone can tell us if it's the wank I think it is ?

[Salamok]

Is it too late to go be a janitor at flagship so I can wear a money hat too?

[lesion]

Does that mean someone can tell us if it's the wank I think it is ?

you think everything is a wank!

[Ironwood]

That's blatantly untrue.

I do, however, think that the Marketing and PR people on Hellgate should be sacked.

[schild]

I do, however, think that the Marketing and PR people on Hellgate should be sacked.

Don't forget the community management folks.

[Salamok]

That's blatantly untrue.

I do, however, think that the Marketing and PR people on Hellgate should be sacked.

They have marketing and PR people?  I thought it was a company created by gaming devs which ONLY employed gaming devs.

[Ironwood]

In which case that might explain it.

Look, all I'll say is that if you look at the mainstream gaming press (at least over here) there's no buzz about this game AT ALL.  And worse, you guys all seem to be abuzz but can't actually talk about it.

It's like a veil of secrecy that rings the 'SUCK' bell in my mind.

Also, I've had a look at some minor gameplay videos and I just don't see how it's supposed to 'work' and without explanation I'm going to continue to sit in the yellow puddle beneath my trousies that is my own ignorance.

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I do too like some things !

[Salamok]

I haven't played it but I have zero doubts that this game will be good.  The question in my mind isn't if it will be worth playing but how long will I be playing it for.   

My greatest fear for this game is that Hellgate will be as hackable as Diablo. 

[lesion]

I would have said the exact same thing before agreeing to the NDA: if at one point you loved Diablo 2 you will most likely feel the same about Hellgate. this knowledge was implanted in my soul millenia ago by a stooped man with a lisp.

on a totally unrelated matter, D2 worked so well because it didn't require hours of time to get shiny objects. it didn't require a group of non-retarded people to take down a boss. it was easy to chat with friends while tearing through hordes of demonic assholes. no monthly fee was necessary. it was non-fat mindless fun.

[Phunked]

D2 was good sure. It had enough addicting crap to make me play it after I got hooked on *actual* MMORPGs.

The question is, will HG:L do the same? The only way that it can do that is with some sort of PvP/co-op gameplay mode that doesn't suck. Scripted PvE in an online environment has been done really, really, really fucking well to date. Sorry but take any 3rd gen MMORPG (aside from the abortion that is Guildwars) and you get whatever fancy form of predictable and reactive AI you want.

The future is either in PvP (like Diablo 2's, except maybe not as an afterthought) or some form of co-op mode (the single selling feature for some POS game like Halo 3).

Give me that and you have me for box+lifetime. Without it, you get maybe my $50 or whatever the box costs.

[sam, an eggplant]

I would have said the exact same thing before agreeing to the NDA: if at one point you loved Diablo 2 you will most likely feel the same about Hellgate.

I would have said the same thing before signing the NDA and actually playing the game.

Now? Well, I d.... wait, NDA.

[Samwise]

I can't wait until the NDA is lifted so I can find out whether it still plays like Serious Sam with customizable yet boring guns, shitty graphics, and shittier "level design".

[schild]

It never played like Serious Sam. Ever.

[Samwise]

It's true.  It was a lot slower and shittier.  The main thing they had in common was the hordes of mindless enemies.

[schild]

Well, there's not much to be said about Level Design in a diablo-type. I happen to find the damn thing great looking - considering what the setting is. My biggest complaint - still - is the animations for melee types. They are poopy mcpooperson.

[taolurker]

Assuming anyone actually reads things I post to these forums anymore, there's a new commercial out for the game.

Also...

According to firingsquad.com H:GL has gone gold with the possibility of a demo tomorrow.

This is not just a rumor, and the main HG:L site had the news of the game going gold up as of Tues.. and the above filefront link with the commercial says the single player demo link should be there sometime later today.

[Ironwood]

Still confused as to how you can put up a demo while you're keeping people to an NDA.

Heh.

[Aez]

Still confused as to how you can put up a demo while you're keeping people to an NDA.

Heh.

Roper had to deal with the Blizzard crowd long enough to figure out he should keep the NDA after release.

[Jamiko]

Demo:

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/11298/Hellgate:+London+Demo
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=46876

[Falconeer]

Woot!

But seriously, is the NDA still up at this point?

[lesion]

as far as I can tell there has been no announcement changing the NDA status.

[schild]

If the demo is available, I can't see how we (f13) should respect it. I'm not saying start talking about it, but I'm saying it's worth a discussion to decide where NDAs invalidate themselves - maybe like when ANY MOTHERFUCKER CAN DOWNLOAD YOUR SHIT?

[Mrbloodworth]

If the demo is available, I can't see how we (f13) should respect it. I'm not saying start talking about it, but I'm saying it's worth a discussion to decide where NDAs invalidate themselves - maybe like when ANY MOTHERFUCKER CAN DOWNLOAD YOUR SHIT?

I dunno, i'm under a few NDAs still, sometimes, they simply don't want you talking about the beta experience and what went on in it.

[Yegolev]

I would assume discussion of the demo is fine, but not the beta.

[Jamiko]

The demo is only 2 classes, part of Act 1 and I assume single player only. The NDA is probably still in effect for any content not included in the demo.

[Oban]

So... can someone tell me if the demo is worth the download?

[Falconeer]

Let me get this straight. The people in the beta signed the NDA so they are not allowed to talk about Hellgate London WHILE those who are downloading the demo right now didn't sign anything so they can discuss it. Yeah, makes sense. After all, I heard this game definitely has humour in it.

EDIT: Oh, 2 classes.

[Lucas]

W00t W00t!

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