Hellgate London Alpha

[Rendakor]

I can't remember a time in any diablo-style game where I had to grind for potions. Not once.

Seriously. How do you ever get that poor?

[schild]

I can't remember a time in any diablo-style game where I had to grind for potions. Not once.

Seriously. How do you ever get that poor?

I don't know, ask the guys who think RMT has a place in Diablo games.

[Yegolev]

You are actually reinforcing my point, which is RMT does not belong in a Diablo clone, although I'm not stating it very well.  I don't like potions in Diablo, either; I consider them to be a design flaw.  The fact that you don't grind for potions at all makes them the safest bet for RMT in a Diablo clone, BUT this decision will still have to be accounted for in the game design rather than tacked on as an afterthought even though the real-world value of a potion would be something like fifty for a penny.  The item being sold would have to have zero gameplay impact, so even potions are risky, otherwise the whole game would have to revolve around paying for power.

[Nonentity]

http://www.hellgatelondon.com/beta/

I want Biohazard!

I must pick up multiple pre-orders.

Also, $150 lifetime confirmed, etc.

[schild]

$150? Cake.

Edit: I will probably wait a week or so to see what happens with the upper level tiers of items though.

[Morfiend]

If I go preorder now, can I still get in the Beta?

[schild]

Uh, yes.

[Ragnoros]

I preordered from GameStop Online and while I got an order conformation I got nothing about my bonus beta/crap. Should I have gotten an E-mail or something?

[Morfiend]

I wish they would have put the original armor color next to those images, so we could see what difference the dye makes. Cause I like the silver, but if it was already kind of silver, I would take the Biohazard.

[Nonentity]

I wish they would have put the original armor color next to those images, so we could see what difference the dye makes. Cause I like the silver, but if it was already kind of silver, I would take the Biohazard.

From most of the screenshots I've seen, it's already pretty silvery as-is.

I think it's just a different shade or something.

[Yegolev]

It is probably supposed to be Wal*Mart Blue.

I don't want to preorder, but looks like I have to in order to get the Lifetime. Ugh.

[eldaec]

It is probably supposed to be Wal*Mart Blue.

I don't want to preorder, but looks like I have to in order to get the Lifetime. Ugh.

Look on the brightside.

If you're sitting in europe looking at that deal you'd have no idea....

1) if you buy a US copy, with the preorder deal, will it work with a non-US card.
2) if you'd be stuck on US servers.



Seriously, trying to get information about this game has the whole blood-stone thing going.

I can only assume that the pre-launch interest is mostly from non-MMOG players, because the first fucking questions every EU community site would normally ask over and over don't seem to be asked or answered anywhere.

bah.

[EvilJohn]

Long story, short: I am currently in the UK (Dundee, Scotland to be precise) because of work, and I chose to pre-order from EB (lava dye, beta chance) etc.

I went ahead and sent a support email asking the particulars of the beta email, and received this response:

Dear Valued Customer.

Thank you for writing to us regarding your recent purchase of Hellgate:
London. Please be advised your Beta access code and instructions will be
emailed to you prior to the Beta start date. This date has yet to be
announced. We are still waiting on these codes from the manufacturer,
however we have been assured the codes will be sent in plenty of time
for the Beta. We will email your code to you as soon as it is available.
Please keep in mind that this may not include international orders, so
you may not receive an e-mail with the beta key. We strongly recommend
that you contact EA Games in regards to this matter for any additional
information.

Best regards,
xxxxxxx (name removed)
GameStop/EBgames.com Customer Support

So, if you're sitting on the fence about international shipping to get the pre-oder for "beta reasons", I'd hold off 

I'll update as I learn more.

PS: I am not complaining, I figured there was a risk. Just trying to help out the other international folks.

Edit--- Actually the Hellgate website has a decent FAQ on some of this, specifically:

Q: If I buy a US pre-order and live in a different country, will the Dye Kit, Beta invite, and Founders Offer still be available to me?

A: Yes, but only on the servers in the same region where the pre-order was made, and each region will have its own Founders Offer.

[Mrbloodworth]

you know, watching the videos, the combat looks rather slow..and repetitive (as in animations and ability's, such as the dual swords animations, and moves).

Not really impressed, but then again, its just he videos.. they could be not showing allot (thats my hope anyway). And a good portion of the guns seem to auto target or "Bend" to the targets..

[sam, an eggplant]

All classes have a degree of auto-targetting except for the hunter. The hunter plays in first person, more like a FPS.

[Mrbloodworth]

All classes have a degree of auto-targetting except for the hunter. The hunter plays in first person, more like a FPS.

I don't see that class on the main site.

[MournelitheCalix]

Wait, what? Diablo 2 loot was fun because it was random.

I don't think that is entirely true.  While Diablo 2 did have some parts of the loot generation randomized, in all the time I played D2 I never found items for the class I was playing at the given time (unless I was in multiplayer and then it seemed like the other person found the loot I needed and I found the loot he needed).

I know I wasn't alone in this because I remember seeing many questions posed to the developers of WoW when WoW was in beta, asking if they would only find loot for other classes.

[Murgos]

R A N D O M.

I played lots of D2, I found lots of items my class could use, just more that others would use better.  I think there were 5 classes finally in D2?  So, if 1/5th of the items you found were for your class then guess what?  It was working properly.

[Calantus]

Wait, what? Diablo 2 loot was fun because it was random.

I don't think that is entirely true.  While Diablo 2 did have some parts of the loot generation randomized, in all the time I played D2 I never found items for the class I was playing at the given time (unless I was in multiplayer and then it seemed like the other person found the loot I needed and I found the loot he needed).

I know I wasn't alone in this because I remember seeing many questions posed to the developers of WoW when WoW was in beta, asking if they would only find loot for other classes.

... you do know the whole thing about random and perceptions and whatnot, yea? I recall many instances where my barbarians found barbarian helms and put them on because they were awesome. I'm sure my other characters did too but I don't recall them specifically.

[schild]

I played  so much Diablo that I had multiple full sets of great armor. I mean sets, the green ones.

Who knows how many gold items I had that were useful to me.

[MrHat]

Anyone get any preorder beta keys?

[sam, an eggplant]

No, not yet. It's unclear when the beta is going to start, but it doesn't look like the 17th is likely.

[Kitsune]

Nobody in the retail channel seems to have any preorder boxes or any clue about preorder status.  A shame, 'cause I'm at least willing to plop down five bucks to get in a few weeks of beta and see if it's worth going for the full game.

[sam, an eggplant]

According to a flagship poster on hellgate guru, they already distributed the beta keys. But he wouldn't give up the target date.

[schild]

They haven't distributed them to Gamestop/EB Customers. If they did, they did it today. Games came out every day this week for me, so I've kinda spent some time at the store.

[MrHat]

They haven't distributed them to Gamestop/EB Customers. If they did, they did it today. Games came out every day this week for me, so I've kinda spent some time at the store.

Yup, Best Buy doesn't have them yet either.  I've heard a rumor of the beta being pushed back a week and the keys being distributed retail next week.

Edit: Its not a big deal, as TF2 is still on schedule for this week.

[Yegolev]

My wait-and-see light just went off.  March on, intrepid gamers... I'll guard the base camp.

[Hoax]

I do want to look special though...

[tmp]

I can't remember a time in any diablo-style game where I had to grind for potions. Not once.

That's great. And to large degree side-steps the original question. Which was, to remind:

"Would it still get people's manties in a twist if RMT was simple alternative for in-game shops, carrying the same goods just for RL currency rather than in-game coins? Or, to clone model from some Korean games etc if the strength of items was like: NPC shops < RMT shop < top tier loot?"

replace potion with whatever other shit these shops sell, if you must.

[Yegolev]

Yeah, some people would get knots in their pants.  Purists, for one, people expecting Diablo 3 but getting Maple Story.  There are also cultural issues with it, I think, however we haven't had a well-designed western game with this stuff in it.  Except perhaps YoHoHo! Puzzle Pirates.  Maybe I should say a well-designed AAA title that appeals to the traditional gamer.  Unexplored territory.

[Calantus]

Why the hell did you have to get me talking about diablo 2 with crazy talk of random loot being bad? Now I need to play Diablo 2 badly but I find that my CD-key has rubbed off somehow and I can't. I may have to dig into my draw of coins and lug a sack o' coins to my nearest games outlet.

[Calantus]

Ever seen the look on a cashier's face when you give them $89.95 in 50c, $1, and $2 dollar coins? It's awesome.

Actually it wasn't, I felt like such a dickhead but oh well.

[Kitsune]

I sincerely hope you didn't pay ninety bucks for Diablo 2.

[Hoax]

Yeah for real, ever heard of amazon?  Or better yet ever heard of a gamestore that doesn't have copies of the game and xpack for $15 or less each?  I guess you have heard of the latter, sucks for you.

[Trippy]

He lives in Australia.