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Question: At this point, does WAR and AoC release dates affect if you buy them?  (Voting closed: August 24, 2007, 08:35:44 AM)
No. I am not interested in either - 7 (12.1%)
Yes. I'd only consider WAR if AoC isn't available - 6 (10.3%)
Yes. I'd only consider AoC if WAR isn't available - 5 (8.6%)
No.  I'll probably get both. - 26 (44.8%)
No.  I've already picked one. - 14 (24.1%)
Total Voters: 58

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Reply #105 on: August 15, 2007, 04:47:02 AM

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how do you pronounce MMORPG?

Mor-porg

I know, I have some letters the wrong way around - but it has stuck in my head now.

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Reply #106 on: August 15, 2007, 06:45:58 AM

You really still think that MMOs and non-MMOs are in competition? They're entirely different experiences. I know people that just play WoW. That's it. They stopped playing everything but WoW.
You don't think they compete with eachother but know people who have completely stopped playing everything but WoW?  Do you understand what you just said?  Of course they compete with eachother, WoW has probably stopped the sale of millions of copies of other games because people are too engrossed in Azeroth to care.  Sometimes when a slew of good non MMOs come out people will take a break from WoW.

I don't think juice competes with soda drinks because I know people who like soda so much they stopped drinking juice.
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Reply #107 on: August 15, 2007, 06:50:10 AM

how do you pronounce MMORPG? Moprepug? :)

Muh-mor-pug.

Yes, I pronounce both M's, cuz I'm goddamn thorough.
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Reply #108 on: August 15, 2007, 06:58:30 AM

What I meant was that there's no competition in the same way that Bruce Lee would have no problem at all kicking my ass. MMOs would win.

I didn't mean to imply that all KMMOs are unworthy, just that most of them are. Aion wasn't on that list, for example.
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Reply #109 on: August 15, 2007, 07:06:47 AM

What I meant was that there's no competition in the same way that Bruce Lee would have no problem at all kicking my ass. MMOs would win.

I didn't mean to imply that all KMMOs are unworthy, just that most of them are. Aion wasn't on that list, for example.

KMMOs are worthless until it is proven otherwise.

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Reply #110 on: August 15, 2007, 07:17:49 AM

Agree with Hoax - it's the MMOs that try to break out into somewhere new that are showing a bit more creativity than just the next fantasy MMO with a bought IP. If you only count what's been released to date as western MMORPGs as the 'true' face of MMOs, it's a genre that is always going to have the same problems.

I'm all about cultural diversity and what not, but lets face it; Asian MMOs cater to their own culture. Granado Espada, although really cool an innovative in its own right, had such astoundingly poor translation that its clear us 'westerners' are a secondary and neglected marketplace for the Asian MMO industry. If that changes, I'll give them another shot. Otherwise, any new Asian MMO is generally met with the same dubious enthusiasm as one of Signe's 'finds'.

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Reply #111 on: August 15, 2007, 08:07:27 AM

I'm sorry, WOTLK is just ludicrous.  It looks like it has something to do with Linux and there's NOTHING fun about that!

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Reply #112 on: August 15, 2007, 09:24:37 AM

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how do you pronounce MMORPG?

em-em-porg is how all my RL gamer friends pernounce it.


KMMOs are worthless until it is proven otherwise.

Please refer to the following games:  Raycrash, Rumble Fighter, Infinity, Gunz, Gunbound, Rakion etc.

None were true mmoRPG's because they all use a lobby+gameroom system but they all did great new things with skill-based combat.

Meanwhile SilkRoad has an interesting pvp-centric faction system (thieves/hunters/merchants) though the grind is terrible.  While games like MapleStory and Ghost Online have brought tons of kids into the medium with grindy but addictive 2d gameplay.  Also there are tons of games that look/sound interesting that aren't even ported over.  This is esp true of Japanese MMO's which look like they have real budgets unlike the shoestring budget Korean games (like the ones I've mentioned) that are happy to sell localization rights to anyone willing to try to put together a NA/EU audience.

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Reply #113 on: August 15, 2007, 09:34:24 AM

schild, how do you pronounce MMORPG? Moprepug? :)

People pronounce these things?  It's like FBI, CIA, NSA.. if it's all in caps, you say the letters because it's not a word. Welcome to English.

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Reply #114 on: August 15, 2007, 09:37:37 AM

how do you pronounce MMORPG? Moprepug? :)
Morepig. Not joking, that's how we pronounce it.

MMO =
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Reply #115 on: August 15, 2007, 09:38:17 AM

schild, how do you pronounce MMORPG? Moprepug? :)

People pronounce these things?  It's like FBI, CIA, NSA.. if it's all in caps, you say the letters because it's not a word. Welcome to English.
HUD. FISA. ASVAB. GUI. Shaddap! ;)
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Reply #116 on: August 15, 2007, 09:39:02 AM

Lawl

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Reply #117 on: August 15, 2007, 10:20:41 AM

schild, how do you pronounce MMORPG? Moprepug? :)

People pronounce these things?  It's like FBI, CIA, NSA.. if it's all in caps, you say the letters because it's not a word. Welcome to English.
HUD. FISA. ASVAB. GUI. Shaddap! ;)

GUI has a pronunciation? How lame.  What is it, "Gooy"?  Yeah just how I want to describe my interface.

HUD I've heard both ways. FISA and ASVAB you've got me on.

The default is letters, though.  You shaddap.

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Reply #118 on: August 15, 2007, 10:32:13 AM

OK so here's a story.  Killjoy and I have a "friend"... we will call him Ingle because that's his real name and he's a bitch.  He's a total WoW whore.  He lost his job due to WoW and now lives on welfare in a trailer playing WoW all the time.  Now, Killjoy is a WoW whore too, but he told his guild that they would not see him for a while because of Bioshock so if they need any warlock help they need to use him now.  Today, as I was mobilizing him to get Bioshock ASAP, he called Ingle and says "Hey, I'm going to get Bioshock right now!"  Ingle says, "What's Bioshock?"  Killjoy hung up on him.

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Reply #119 on: August 15, 2007, 10:33:05 AM

GUI has a pronunciation? How lame.  What is it, "Gooy"?  Yeah just how I want to describe my interface.

HUD I've heard both ways. FISA and ASVAB you've got me on.

The default is letters, though.  You shaddap.
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Reply #120 on: August 15, 2007, 10:59:56 AM

People pronounce these things?  It's like FBI, CIA, NSA.. if it's all in caps, you say the letters because it's not a word. Welcome to English.

Pah, MMORPG takes like five hours to say if you pronounce every letter.  MMO I do pronounce letter by letter, but for the full MMORPG I think some mutilation of the language is acceptable.  And Muhmorpug is fun to say.  I'm willing to accept a simple morpug/morpig, however.

Now, I take issue with anyone pronouncing a "porg" anywhere in there.  What is this, an anagram?

(All that said, whoever came up with the abbreviation to begin with probably needs to be smacked around a bit.  I welcome the "MMO" truncation.)
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Reply #121 on: August 15, 2007, 11:17:29 AM

I'm sorry, WOTLK is just ludicrous.  It looks like it has something to do with Linux and there's NOTHING fun about that!


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Reply #122 on: August 15, 2007, 11:46:24 AM

Uhm. Hmm.

I call MMORPGS "M M Os" in real life. As in spoken. The Letters MMOs. As in MMOs suck, MMOs are derivative, MMOs are the opposite of fun. Or, I suppose "This movie is so bad, I'd rather be playing an MMO."

The only acronyms that I don't pronounce out in some manner are "GUI" and "FEMA." Maybe there are others, but I can't think of any.

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Reply #123 on: August 15, 2007, 12:02:08 PM

Off the top of my head... SCUBA, HIPAA, MILF, UNICEF, and SWAT.
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Reply #124 on: August 15, 2007, 12:19:51 PM

LASER, SONAR.
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Reply #125 on: August 15, 2007, 12:25:58 PM

LASER, SONAR.

I'm calling shenanigans on this.
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Reply #126 on: August 15, 2007, 12:30:25 PM

NASA, BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit)

Sometimes you can do that. Sometimes you shouldn't. Like some podcasters who seem to think SWG should be verbalized as "SWG". It just sounds dumb. Call it "Galaxies". It's faster anyway.
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Reply #127 on: August 15, 2007, 12:32:23 PM

Eh? I say "S" "W" "G." Always have. The dev team says "swig."
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Reply #128 on: August 15, 2007, 12:37:09 PM

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They chose acronyms that made good words and eventually people forgot they were acronyms.

I pronounce SQL, as in the database query language, "sequel" as do most other developers in Canada.  I don't know if this is true but apparently in the U.S. people sound it out as S, Q, L and if you say sequel they don't know what you mean.
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Reply #129 on: August 15, 2007, 12:37:38 PM

WoW.

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Reply #130 on: August 15, 2007, 12:40:58 PM

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I pronounce SQL, as in the database query language, "sequel" as do most other developers in Canada.  I don't know if this is true but apparently in the U.S. people sound it out as S, Q, L and if you say sequel they don't know what you mean.

It is 'sequel' here too, but we are dangerously close the Canadian border.

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Reply #131 on: August 15, 2007, 12:46:42 PM

I think there is a note in the O'Reilly book, or somewhere, that tells you it is pronounced "sequel".  I say Ess Que Ell because I'm not a Dee Bee Ay.

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Reply #132 on: August 15, 2007, 12:47:41 PM

Eh? I say "S" "W" "G." Always have. The dev team says "swig."

Then you are insane too. Nobody looks at you odd in conversation? :)
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Reply #133 on: August 15, 2007, 12:48:57 PM

Eh? I say "S" "W" "G." Always have. The dev team says "swig."
Then you are insane too. Nobody looks at you odd in conversation? :)
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Reply #134 on: August 15, 2007, 12:51:50 PM

I work as a DBA manager and I tend to go back and forth between saying SQL and sequel. I mostly say sequel, I guess.
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Reply #135 on: August 15, 2007, 01:01:59 PM


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Reply #136 on: August 15, 2007, 01:05:16 PM

I work as a DBA manager and I tend to go back and forth between saying SQL and sequel. I mostly say sequel, I guess.

Oh, SQL, that's a good one.

Here's why:

Microsoft SQL is always pronounced out - M S S Q L.
MySQL is always pronounced MySequel.

Weird. It's all about flow.
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Reply #137 on: August 15, 2007, 01:31:53 PM

No, no, no, no, no. Ugh, I really hate that "sequel" shit. Here's what the MySQL people say:
Quote from: mySQL
The official way to pronounce “MySQL” is “My Ess Que Ell” (not “my sequel”), but we don't mind if you pronounce it as “my sequel” or in some other localized way.
And I'm Canadian, so none of that cultural difference crap either.
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Reply #138 on: August 15, 2007, 01:39:05 PM

I pronounce it as 'my sequel' and postgresql really is.. 'postgres-queue-el'... I remember they have a wav on the website that asks.
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Reply #139 on: August 15, 2007, 01:53:27 PM

No, no, no, no, no. Ugh, I really hate that "sequel" shit. Here's what the MySQL people say:
Quote from: mySQL
The official way to pronounce “MySQL” is “My Ess Que Ell” (not “my sequel”), but we don't mind if you pronounce it as “my sequel” or in some other localized way.
And I'm Canadian, so none of that cultural difference crap either.

Que? as in "K"? or 'cue', surely they mean cue.
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