SOE's Next MMOG (for the PS3, oh noes): The Agency

[schild]

Spy shit.
Controllable spy teams.
Two factions.

That's it thus far.

Also, PS3. Needed to mention that again.

[CmdrSlack]

So, twitch?

Had to be done.

[schild]

Weak.

[HaemishM]

PS3 = Weak Sauce.

[SnakeCharmer]

Wasn't this one going to be RMT/Station Exchange type thing enabled as well?

Ah well.  

Still won't be buying a PS3 any time soon.

[Sky]

Because the first thing I think of when I think of thousands of people online is SPIES.

Dibs on Bond007.

[schild]

I'm fucking stoked about it being on the PS3.

[CmdrSlack]

But are MMOs on a console really the "future"?  I mean, EQOA kinda sucked, and that was largely because an MMO on a console was wonky.  Or is there some special PS3 feature (besides the obvious HD stuff) that would make it so much better than an MMO on the PS2?

[SnakeCharmer]

But are MMOs on a console really the "future"?  I mean, EQOA kinda sucked, and that was largely because an MMO on a console was wonky.  Or is there some special PS3 feature (besides the obvious HD stuff) that would make it so much better than an MMO on the PS2?

If they could make different platforms (edited for clarity: 360 and PS3) play with each other and fully support mouse / keyboard usage, sure.

I am guessing the biggest hurdle (besides legal issues) is the two different OS's a PS3 and 360 may use - if they do, or even use one at all?

Edit:  Further, if they can develop a game for one static 'build' (a PS3 for example), it *has* to cut their development time and QA costs significantly.

[schild]

But are MMOs on a console really the "future"?

Yes.

[Sky]

Or.

No.

[schild]

Or.

No.

My argument is more sound simply because it's easier to avoid WoW on a console and the platform is unified.

What do you have to offer? Keyboard and Mouse? Easiest Fix Ever.

[Arthur_Parker]

A console with a k/b and mouse is just a pc with limited upgrade options.

[KyanMehwulfe]

In the very least, it's not simply another high-fantasy PC rpg (mmo). There's genre-evolvement value in that alone. There's the untapped user base as well; even the RTS genre has made a stronger foray I would imagine with the recent 360 success of C&C3 (if the cited sales I saw were correct). MMOs have only had, what, poor EQOA and decent-at-best FF XI on the PS2 for measures of success.

There's a lot of potential for MMOs of different models. If devs want to really experiment with different world styles (varying degrees of a core world versus instancing) and different payment methods (eg; those that would suit a typical console game you only may play 2 or 3 months a year, but want to be able to pick up whenever you want and just enjoy), consoles are likely a much more open front. Such seems to be met with so much hostility in the established and often traditionalist PC communities. They likely suit the platform more too, not only with a larger acceptance of DLC (larger, certainly not total; re: BOHICA sentiment) but simply how folks consume games on consoles (far more at a faster rate).

[schild]

A console with a k/b and mouse is just a pc with limited upgrade options.

Unified. Platform.

Christ. No one WANTS to upgrade for shit. We're just forced to. Bad argument. Thrown out. -50 FKP.

[Hoax]

This will go well.

Also you are wrong Schild but I dont mind.  Rock on with your bad self.  This game will suck balls and the world will still turn.


When your entire concept was irrovably fucking smashT by reply #5 you need to l2dev.

Because the first thing I think of when I think of thousands of people online is SPIES.

Dibs on Bond007.

[SnakeCharmer]

The great thing about a theoretical game for my 360 is that I don't have to contemplate upgrading my vid card, RAM, or processor to have a chance to enjoy it.

That in and of itself is reason enough for me to buy MMOs (or ANY good/entertaining game) for my 360 (or PS3 if I had the interest and intent to own one).

[Nebu]

The thing that I really don't like about mmo's on console is that either a) you'll be required to buy a keyboard to communicate or b) you'll be forced to use voice chat.  If someone can incorporate a keyboard well, I'd be fine with that.  I really don't want to be forced into a large world with voicechat... he;;, the general chat channel text in WoW makes me want to stab myself in the face. I can't imagine having to listen to it.

[Tebonas]

Its easier for the developers. Thats the only difference if you buy your PCs in one piece and never upgrade for shit.

They get paid to make the stuff compatible, so switching to consoles just makes their work easier. Which is fine if you get the games cheaper as a result. If not, whats in it for me? I admit I seldom upgrade these days, but another graphic card once in a while or more RAM is still something wandering into my PC once in a while. An option denied to me for the developers convenience? What are you schild, their fucking mother?

[Sky]

My argument is more sound simply because it's easier to avoid WoW on a console and the platform is unified.

Again. EQOA.

But beyond that to the specifics of this game. I'm totally going to spy on you spying on me! Maybe you could rp DeNiro from the Fockers when you camp the Kremlin for phat lewtz.

[Nonentity]

I'm with schild on this one.

You want mass market appeal? Put a good, solid MMO on a console. FF11 doesn't count.

Although, while I can see why they'd put it on a PS3, I still don't think it's a smart choice.

Small userbase of hardcores already own PCs.

[Arthur_Parker]

A console with a k/b and mouse is just a pc with limited upgrade options.

Unified. Platform.

Christ. No one WANTS to upgrade for shit. We're just forced to. Bad argument. Thrown out. -50 FKP.

I never said limited upgrade options was bad or stated lots of normal people upgrade pcs, what I meant was, consoles are so advanced nowadays that the whole console vs pc argument should really die.  Today, consoles are pc's so it's like discussing which is better, a 4 wheeled motorcyle with a roof or a car.

[Tebonas]

Yeah, it really should. The only two reasons for exclusives are lazyness or greed. The days where console developed titles were worse because of hardware restrictions should be over. So nobody should give a fuck anymore.

[schild]

This game will suck balls and the world will still turn.

I am not arguing the quality of the game. I could care less about the actual quality. 99.9% of the MMOGs out there suck balls and people are still making that shit for the PC.

[SnakeCharmer]

I can't even begin to believe greed was mentioned....

[Nebu]

99.9% of the MMOGs out there suck balls and people are still making that shit for the PC.

I want a 1000 word piece on the 0.1% that don't.

[Nonentity]

99.9% of the MMOGs out there suck balls and people are still making that shit for the PC.

I want a 1000 word piece on the 0.1% that don't.

Clearly, you've never played Yogurting.

[schild]

99.9% of the MMOGs out there suck balls and people are still making that shit for the PC.

I want a 1000 word piece on the 0.1% that don't.

And all I ask is that people master BBCode.

[Nebu]

And all I ask is that people master BBCode.

I FIXED IT DAMNIT!

[Nonentity]

99.9% of the MMOGs out there suck balls and people are still making that shit for the PC.

I want a 1000 word piece on the 0.1% that don't.

And all I ask is that people master BBCode.


I saw it before you fixed it. YOU FELL VICTIM TOO.

[schild]

LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

[Venkman]

My argument is more sound simply because it's easier to avoid WoW on a console and the platform is unified.

What do you have to offer? Keyboard and Mouse? Easiest Fix Ever.

The graphics will be great. And there's a lack of competition. But it's still the PS3, which just isn't selling that great and is specifically for a kind of gamer not totally enraptured by MMORPGs. I completely understand the internal desire to support this platform. But they really need to try and stop owning all aspects of the user experience in some format they created themselves. This completely holds them back. Microsoft understands this, but of course is better positioned to leverage multiple platforms laterally too. Whether you LIKE those platforms is another story ;)

[Nija]

I'm fucking stoked about it being on the PS3.

I'll play it if they include a PS3 in the $60 box.

Otherwise no thanks. I don't think I'm alone here.

[schild]

I don't care about how much the PS3 has sold or whether I like it. I don't care about the internal desire to support the platform.

All I care about is 1. It most likely won't be a straight diku grind and 2. It's ignoring WoW.

That's fucking progress, whether the game is good or not.

Edit: AGAIN, I don't give a fuck about the fact it's on the PS3. It's the fact the PS3 ISN'T a PC. It could have been the DS for all I care (would've sold better on the DS too).

[Nija]

Then again unified platform is exactly what SOE wants to shove down our throats.

Now you not only have to buy a new game every 4 years, but you have to buy a new $700 system! Brilliant!

Again, no thanks.