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Topic: Microsoft Surface - oooooohh shiny!!! (Read 27870 times)
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squirrel
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I'm not a big fan of Micrsoft interfaces but damn THIS IS COOL. Apparently available winter 2007. |
Speaking of marketing, we're out of milk.
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schild
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Yea, saw that last night. It's only going to be in casinos and restaurants and shit at the end of the year. Going to be expensive.
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Tebonas
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Cool, so the touchscreen handling introduced by the Apple iPhone is on the best way to become a universal feature. Can't say I don't like that.
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WindupAtheist
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Apple invented touchscreens now?
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schild
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Cool, so the touchscreen handling introduced by the Apple iPhone is on the best way to become a universal feature. Can't say I don't like that.
That's borderline retarded. |
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Tebonas
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I mean the multi-touch technology, obviously. Stop trolling you two. It was on purpose that I didn't say invented, but introduced. They were the first one introducing a mainstream device that uses that technology. And I hoped then it would become more widespread. And that happened quite fast and I'm glad. Nothing more. Go wash the sand out of your vaginas! Edit: You want a really nice tech demo about that technology try http://www.perceptivepixel.com/. Which has nothing at all to do with neither Microsoft nor Apple. |
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« Last Edit: May 30, 2007, 12:02:10 PM by Tebonas »
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Sir Fodder
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Nifty. They better make the surface buffable, looks like a scratch magnet. I wonder if they will enable usage of some type of tablet remote for very large or physically inaccessable displays.
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Sky
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Money shot just took on a whole new dimension!
What?
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Zonk
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Strazos
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The part in the MS video with the credit card payments, I thought, was pretty damn sweet.
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Sir Fodder
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If they are going to set these up in casinos to begin with, that could get interesting. "What happens here stays here" might not apply when naughty vacationers start setting down digital cameras and and phones on the thing  |
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hal
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If it comes with a beer can holder I am so there.
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I started with nothing, and I still have most of it
I'm not a complete idiot... Some parts are still on backorder.
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pants
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Wouldn't you get a sore back being hunched over that thing for hours at a time? And I'd imagine sore arms/shoulders if it was wall-mounted and you reached up to touch it...
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Llava
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Fabricated
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I think I remember seeing this desktop technology demoed about 1-2 years ago, where a guy had a desktop that was basically like a desk. He was stacking files and icons with gestures and it looked like they were all these tiles. He stacked like 10 pictures, then did a gesture on the pile and could fan them out in multiple ways, then he did the same thing with program icons. I thought it looked useless.
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Abagadro
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Now that I am working with plats and satellite photos a lot I'd love one of these things.
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bhodi
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Righ
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I think that the newest thing about this is that Microsoft are involved. Camera-projector interfaces have been hot in university research for the last few years. Now that M$ are hard at work patenting stuff, I'm sure we'll see more of it, and they'll make lots of money, but it'll probably end up stifling the innovative work in this area. I still want a synth like Reactable. |
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« Last Edit: May 30, 2007, 08:11:11 PM by Righ »
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The camera adds a thousand barrels. - Steven Colbert
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Well, risking my anti-Microsoft street cred (I still don't run any MS OS on my 3 machines - all OS X or Ubuntu, don't feel I'm missing much in PC gaming yet, that may change) I have to say that of all the other efforts to develop/innovate in this space, it hasn't come to market.
Stuff that occurs in University's but is never released to me is not that interesting, when it's primarily a end user improvement. Stuff I can buy is. So while I don't credit Microsoft with developing it, and I recognize that their entry to this market may stifle some innovation - I haven't seen much of this "innovation" first hand because no-one seems interested in selling it. I remember the demo a year or two ago that was similar and it was very cool (can't remember who did it) but there seemed to be no commercial availability to the tech. So yeah. First to actual market wins.
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Speaking of marketing, we're out of milk.
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Righ
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There are other systems that have come to market - just not any market that's useful to us. Its likely that MS' stuff will lead to something we might acquire sooner than other people working in the area, but even that's not guaranteed at this point. Like I said, the big story is that Microsoft are involved. :)
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Arnold
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That guy would get destroyed by mouse + hotkeys. |
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« Last Edit: May 31, 2007, 01:28:10 AM by Arnold »
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WindupAtheist
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What does this stuff do besides look neat? That I can't do now, I mean?
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Miasma
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That guy would get destroyed by mouse + hotkeys. Absolutely, I liked how he was saying that it was very difficult to draw a rectangle around units with a mouse, while he had to hunch over the screen using both hands simultaneously to do his "bi-manual selection technique". That guy is an idiot. It is a cool looking technology that will have very little practical value. |
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Strazos
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It might have been possible to, I dunno...play quicker than the guy was in the demo.
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Megrim
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Yea, i think it might have worked a little better if a) they got someone who actually knew how to play War3, and b) used a smaller screen. It could have some rather interesting gaming potential (turn-based games/rpgs ?), but looks a little far removed right now.
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Lantyssa
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It could make for fun tabletop miniatures games. Battletech or Warhammer done without all the tweaks to turn them into RTS. Otherwise, I'm not real excited about the applications.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Koyasha
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Very cool. I have no idea what I, personally, would use it for yet, but if they make the technology sufficiently cost-effective, we may start seeing stuff like this all over in a few years.
Also, yeah, I found that guy amazingly stupid when he said how it was 'difficult' to draw a box with a mouse. Wtf. Never clicked and dragged before? You can do it on your windows desktop! That aside, it could be a quicker and more efficient interface for some games. Especially if the UI was designed to work with such an interface.
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Big Gulp
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It is a cool looking technology that will have very little practical value.
Bullshit! Photoshop, people, Photoshop! Do you know what a pain it is to draw with a mouse sometimes? You can use a pen tablet, but frankly I think they suck. A tablet PC that you can draw directly on the screen would be great (I wish I had one), but a whole table for your canvas? I'm getting an erection just thinking about it. ETA: Actually, Surface in easel form would be the bee's knees. |
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« Last Edit: June 02, 2007, 06:37:20 AM by Big Gulp »
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Venkman
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Saw this years ago. They've been working on it for almost as long as I've been playing MMORPGs. It's not just a multi-zone touchscreen. It's an R&D effort to completely redesign computer use. Kinda like that crazy screen Tom Cruise used in Minority Report (yet another Kubrik movie adaptation where you can so easily see the difference between his ending and the Hollywood one).
Philipps and Magnavox have also dumped buckets of cash into R&D in this area too. For now we have consumer-ready tablet PCs, which are now beginning to not suck.
It's kinda like e-ink, flexible LCD screens, flying cars and habital space. Everyone knows they are coming. Everyone wants a piece of the action. But everyone is also waiting for someone else to dump nonrecoverable costs into making it a reality so they can come along and create parasitic business models.
And iPhone didn't invent shit. Apple is the Blizzard of the tech world. That's not an insult.
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eldaec
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Bullshit! Photoshop, people, Photoshop! Do you know what a pain it is to draw with a mouse sometimes? You can use a pen tablet, but frankly I think they suck. A tablet PC that you can draw directly on the screen would be great (I wish I had one), but a whole table for your canvas? I'm getting an erection just thinking about it.
Normal people don't draw in photoshop. Normal people with normal skill levels use automated filters to process photographs in photoshop - they don't draw on photos for anything other than comic effect. It's nice, but to most people it is nothing more than an evolutionary upgrade for people who use tablet PCs, and a decent tool for graphic artists. It's kinda like .....flying cars ..... Everyone knows they are coming It's nothing like flying cars. It's like the replacement for your laptop's touch pad. Scratch that, it actually is the replacement for your laptop's touch pad. |
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Torinak
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Now that I am working with plats and satellite photos a lot I'd love one of these things.
Perhaps you'd like a TouchTable ( www.touchtable.com). They were demo'd in 2005 at the ESRI User Conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2pPeW4cUgU. No need to hunch over the TT45 model (the smaller one, only 39"x22"), as it's on a stand and can be elevated and pivoted as desired. |
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Venkman
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It's like the replacement for your laptop's touch pad.
Scratch that, it actually is the replacement for your laptop's touch pad. Not while it's that expensive, that big, and tablet PCs do a better job at it. |
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hal
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I am probably wrong here. Ya it is me. But part of the deal is you lay your camera on it and the pictures download, you lay your Ipod on it and it syncs. Its brain dead for the brain dead. Its touch screen and close distance RF and plug and pray all over again. Can we make a computer so dumb that Joe Sixpack can use it? Sure boss I can do that!
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I started with nothing, and I still have most of it
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Big Gulp
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I am probably wrong here. Ya it is me. But part of the deal is you lay your camera on it and the pictures download, you lay your Ipod on it and it syncs. Its brain dead for the brain dead. Its touch screen and close distance RF and plug and pray all over again. Can we make a computer so dumb that Joe Sixpack can use it? Sure boss I can do that!
And? That's a good thing. Making using a computer more intuitive and easier for the average Joe is the fucking goal. If you need to measure your epeen with esoteric bullshit then I'm sure any number of Unixes can accomodate your desires. |
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