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Topic: Ensemble Studios' Canceled Project Was Halo MMO (Read 13142 times)
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UnSub
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His bit about the Covenant makes no sense.
If it was a prequel to Halo, it couldn't have the Master Chief, so yeah, made no sense. However, he could have mis-remembered it and meant that Covenant would have split after Halo 3... or something. I'm guessing it was a prequel. And no, you can't have Master Chief, per se, but you can have Spartans. Remember, there were originally quite a few of them (though I don't pretend to know exact numbers). My guess? The game was something about the early war or first encounters with the Covenant. Still, the presence of an actual Halo makes no sense in that context since it was clearly a first encounter for humanity in the first game. ... weren't the Covenant from the Marathon games? It'd have to be big prequel leap to split up the Covenant but allow all the latest USMC advances. I thought Spartans were fairly rare, with Master Chief being one of the first (which is why the Covenant fear him so).
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NiX
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I thought Spartans were fairly rare, with Master Chief being one of the first (which is why the Covenant fear him so).
As the story goes, they are rare in that their training planet was demolished and Master Chief is one of the few who fought their way out alive as a child/young man.
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schild
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Anyone who wants actual backstory on The Spartan Project with actual numbers and such should really listen to I Love Bees.
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Fordel
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There were only ever a few dozen of the Master Chief 'level' of Spartan. Like, 40-60 tops. There is no mention of Spartan I's and Spartan III's wouldn't be available if the time set is early on in the Human/Covenant war.
Which is why the 'Covenant not quite the covenant yet' comment makes no sense. The Schisim happened during/because of the Human/Covenant war, prior to that, the covenant has been the covenant for thousands of years.
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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schild
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The backstory for Spartan Mk. I is in I Love Bees!
YARGH, THE LORE IS WRITTEN.
Oh, and it's fucking really really really good.
Better than anything else having to do with Halo.
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Fordel
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iLoveBee's isn't cannon! 
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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schild
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Might as well be, the Halo story itself is total shit.
Actually it makes me pretty happy to hear it isn't cannon as it's far too good for Bungie to adopt.
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Surlyboi
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eat a bag of dicks
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I thought Spartans were fairly rare, with Master Chief being one of the first (which is why the Covenant fear him so).
As the story goes, they are rare in that their training planet was demolished and Master Chief is one of the few who fought their way out alive as a child/young man. Negative. They're rare because the process that created them was highly illegal and experimental and killed or maimed half of them. The rest were just killed over time as standard casualties of war. The navy didn't have enough candidates to do it again until they started kidnapping kids for Spartan III. The planet that got demolished was Reach. There only were only a handful of spartan IIs on that planet when it got glassed. There are spartan IIIs, but the few that survived their training planet being destroyed are stuck on a Forerunner shield world somewhere. The spartan I story is kinda covered in Ilovebees, but there are also hints that Sgt. Johnson was one of them.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Margalis
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The problem with copying any existing success is that you can't copy the freshness.
There's also the fact that to put out a game that is "WOW but better" you have to put out a game with a few expansions worth of content and spend a bajillion dollars.
And lastly people still play WOW. You can get away with making a Final Fight knockoff every year because people don't play Final Fight for a year plus. If you make another WOW you're competing with the existing WOW. And losing.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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I'm a pretty damn big Halo fan boy and even I think a Halo MMO would've been incredibly dumb.
I thought Halo was a tedious pile of shit (albeit pretty) so a Halo MMO would have had to have been goddamned spectacular for me to have even looked at it 
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Fordel
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So much hate 
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Hey, I did say it was pretty! 
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Sophismata
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You know, Microsoft have been pretty impressive lately as far as MMO's go. They see things are going south (or will go south) and cancel / hand-off the project.
If they actually end up publishing something, it should be pretty decent.
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« Last Edit: November 22, 2008, 02:39:21 AM by Sophismata »
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"You finally did it, you magnificent bastards. You went so nerd that even I don't know WTF you're talking about anymore. I salute you." - WindupAtheist
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TheCastle
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The problem with copying any existing success is that you can't copy the freshness.
In addition to that there is another problem with copying a successful formula. 9 times out of 10 most people don't even pay enough attention to why the formula was successful in the first place. By the looks of those screen shots I see this problem written all over it. Halo 3rd person, WOW HUD with guns!!! I see at least 2 already successful formulas being slayed at the same time in one foul swoop. And that's just the tip of the Frankenstein.
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