Borderlands

[Koyasha]

It is particularly amusing around here, though, since most people around here manage to be so perfectly cynical about some (many) games, while following that graph exactly on others.

[apocrypha]

I'll chip in with an endorsement for the PS3 version. It's just good fun for a decent amount of time. Nothing earth-shattering and, indeed, not Jesus in video game form, but damn good fun regardless. I found zero issues aiming with the controller and it looks awesome on a nice large TV.

Split-screen however is horrible. If you want to co-op it (which I strongly recommend cos it's very, very good fun) and can only do that split-screen on the PS3 then 2 PCs will be a better bet. Also playing it on the PC means you can use mods which would be great.

[Azazel]

New, non-sucky DLC is apparently out.
"The Secret Armory of General Knoxx"

Anyone had any experience with it yet?

[Lantyssa]

Plan is to have a big play session Thursday.  I'll let you know if it happens.  (Saturday's plans didn't.)

[Shrike]

I've been playing the new stuff since it came out (and when I can tear myself away from ME2 and assorted WoW chores). It's good stuff. Better like driving, though.

My time has been on the 360--haven't downloaded it yet from Steam for my PC version. It's bascially adding a new level cap (61) with no new talents and it takes up where the original left off. It's just you cleaning up the Crimson Lance/Atlus issue. Cameos from old NPCs (Moxxie, Scooter, Marcus, etc.). A few new ones. Lots of shooting and some gameplay fixes (and nerfs...). There's a LOT of vehical combat and travel, and it's not avoidable (no teleporters in the new area--like Dr. Neds little island getaway).

I like it.

[LK]

Is General Knoxx based on the colonel from Avatar, or is it just me?

[Rishathra]

Visually?  I guess.  Personality wise?  Complete opposites.

[waffel]

Man am I pissed. I installed this game again to play it, launched it once, quit out and went to adjust the ini files and found out my desktop mouse sensitivity is through the roof.

I checked mouse settings and everything is the same as it always is, yet my mouse is flying across the screen. wtf? Are you telling me this game destroyed my mouse sensitivity from one launch?

So I install Logitech's setpoint garbage and it adjusted my sensitivity back to normal levels, however now I have to keep setpoint launched otherwise my mouse bugs out again.

This is really unbelievable. I really wish I never reinstalled this game.

[Shrike]

Since no one has bothered to mention this yet, I'll step up.

New level cap and scaling is in. P2.75, if you will.

This went live on the PC this last weekend. 360 got it night before last (Tues?). Hell, I don't know. I work nights, so my schedule is wonky. All this stuff works now on all platforms. Logged in on both of my platforms. Sure enough, scags outside of Fyrestone were level 60. Knoxx run had the man himself at 65 (with a 62 siren), and he actually kicked up a fuss. Crawmerax is supposedly something like 75 now, but haven't checked on the overgrown crawdad yet. Zombie blasting is fun again out in the 'Cove (mmmmm...Fatal Crux...).

Good times.

[Mrbloodworth]

Hate to bump the thread. But.

I hate Gamespy right now. Why the hell do i have to open ports to host a Gamespy enabled game? The issue I am having now is, one machine on my LAN can host, but the other can't see the host. Private server using Gameplay same issue. Right now, it seems Hamachi does not help, forwarding seems not to help. About the best thing we could do is host on my girls machine ( Not the one I foward ports for...  ), and join that through Gamespy. However that limits us greatly, as its the host that sets the mission or plot mission. The part that is the worst, is you just can't use the steam "join" feature.

How do you guys have your network set up, or is there any advice I may have overlooked hosting on any machine in my network?

Thanks.

[Lantyssa]

Windows Firewall?

It's been a while since I messed with Borderland's networking, but it worked both LAN and with someone connecting to us.  I'd disable the firewall for a minute and see if you can connect, just to see if that's the issue.

[Mrbloodworth]

Yeah, was going to give that a go tonight, I also recall my router could likely use replacing.

Still, game came out in 2009, port forwarding was cute when Diablo came out.



Games on steam should use steam. Amen.

[kaid]

I am so with you on this bloodworth my biggest gripe with borderlands was the gamespy crap it was just total voodoo trying to get people hooked up. Some days I had to host or people could not join and other days nobody would see me when I hosted and had to have somebody else try to host. Some days nobody could host and we all were just confused as hell.

I had all the recommended ports forwarded and even tried just putting my pc in the damn DMZ flapping in the wind but it was just total black magic about what combo of conditions would work from one day to the next.

[Azazel]

Yeah, I'm with you as well. Despite having it on our PCs, we just play it on 360. Partly because I couldnt be arsed restarting, but the whole port forwarding thing just turned me right off. "Our lead platform is the PC" my arse.

[Modern Angel]

Setting aside any of the usual internet hyperbole and whatnot, Gearbox is one of a small handful of companies that I absolutely will not do business with anymore due to the Borderlands launch. The internet connection was absolute horseshit, the PC interface was horseshit and the line coming from the company was horseshit. The absolute clincher for me was when their head guy got on one of the gaming rags to openly talk shit to Valve about their lack of PS3 support. This was shortly after Borderlands' horrendous PC launch. Really? Really?

Fuck Gearbox. One hit wonder, judging from the spotty quality of the DLC and the by all accounts not very good Duke Nukem they snatched up.

[Mrbloodworth]

I really like the game, thats why its so frustrating. Its really my only gripe about it.

[Modern Angel]

I had a ton of fun in the actual game but I was forced to set up an old school LAN to do it. Not even Hamachi or... this other thing we tried using, whose name escapes me atm, worked. So after doing this for about three weekends in a row, I'd had enough. I didn't touch any DLC and I avoid their games like the plague.

[tgr]

I'm not sure how limiting hamachi is, but have you tried just setting up an OpenVPN server and connect both machines to that? It's what me and a friend does whenever we're playing games which might need some port forwarding etc, and I believe it's not limiting any ports whatsoever.

[Mrbloodworth]

Hamachi runs every other game I own, C'ept this one. Though it could be my network, going to pick up a new router soon.

[Arrrgh]

They removed the need to forward ports a few patches in iirc. It works fine for me now with no forwarding.

[Mrbloodworth]

They removed the need to forward ports a few patches in iirc. It works fine for me now with no forwarding.

Lies.

[Modern Angel]

They removed the need to forward ports a few patches in iirc. It works fine for me now with no forwarding.

I can confirm that this is absolutely false. Other people can as well. I'm certain it worked for some people and I know that they claimed this is the case.

[Arrrgh]

They removed the need to forward ports a few patches in iirc. It works fine for me now with no forwarding.

I can confirm that this is absolutely false. Other people can as well. I'm certain it worked for some people and I know that they claimed this is the case.

Nope, router config open in another tab and there's no forwarding.

I was using the built in gamespy BS to start the games.

[Modern Angel]

Dude, I *promise* that I'm not making this up out of thin air. Once that patch was released, I decided to give it one last try and still had forwarding issues.

[Mrbloodworth]

I wish my issues were imaginary!

[Arrrgh]

Dude, I *promise* that I'm not making this up out of thin air. Once that patch was released, I decided to give it one last try and still had forwarding issues.

I'm sorry you two are having issues, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work fine for me.

[Modern Angel]

Good thing that's not actually what we're talking about.

[TheWalrus]

Me and my pals play BL all the time without port forwarding. Works just keen. I'm guessing the game just hates you.

[Ingmar]

Basic troubleshooting would seem to indicate that if other people are playing it fine without port forwarding, and you can't get it to work even with port forwarding, then port forwarding almost certainly has nothing to do with what is actually causing your problem.

[Nija]

Some games behave better than others when it involves one person connecting to a local, non routable address and others connecting to the internet facing NAT'd IP. It basically boils down to whether or not the serving host app will handle it. Port forwarding almost doesn't matter at this level.

[tgr]

And this is one of the main reasons me and my friend just use OpenVPN. No NATting and no firewalls to worry about. The only caveat might be exactly how OpenVPN is setup, there's a way you can setup OpenVPN which won't pass through some sort of packets, but I forget which. I think it was multicasts or broadcasts, but it's been a while and I don't remember at the moment.

Anyway, I'd give openvpn a try just to see if it solves anything. It's not a sure-fire solution, as me and my friend used to be able to play rainbow six together, but the last time we tried it, it didn't work. :iiam:

[Jimbo]

We play the heck out of it on Xbox Live, no problems finding, hosting, or joining private or public games.  I would imagine on Playstation's version is the same, seems the PC got the shitty end of the stick again.

[Azazel]

I really like the game, thats why its so frustrating. Its really my only gripe about it.

Fuck, Bloodworth. Stop making me agree with you!