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Quote from: bhodi on June 03, 2008, 06:01:10 AM

Some people like to swap out one low for a 1600 plate. In smaller battles it can work, in larger ones (more than 10 craft on each side) it doesn't matter. DON'T USE MULTISPECS.

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Is there a way to take all proposed setups for the BlackBird and put them together. Then place that post or new thread into the Ship Fitting Index?

Quote from: bhodi on June 03, 2008, 06:01:10 AM

Some people like to swap out one low for a 1600 plate. In smaller battles it can work, in larger ones (more than 10 craft on each side) it doesn't matter. DON'T USE MULTISPECS. I can't stress that enough. They use double the cap and have half the range of racials. They aren't all that strong, either. I also rainbow my jammers since in larger battles you can always find more than enough targets to jam, and when you have a few blackbirds in fleet there's nothing worse than all having one or two racials and leaving half the enemy fleet unjammed.

I'm going to resist saying the catchphrase all over the eve-o forums right now.

I fly falcons, and you have the setup I use, I have recon V so I can fit better stuff but my racials change depending on the situation. I usually never fit guns in the high since your main job is support, and having a weapon in the high means you are going to try and get closer. In a big fight this is stupid, just get your recon launcher, cloak, cyno, and maybe a remote repping device. If I know I am going to fight with someone like AM, or CVA and their enemy will be mostly minmatar, it would be stupid to fit one of each jammer type. You are fine with all minmatar. You can get offracial jams pretty easily with a recon V falcon.

If I am raoaming I'll use rainbow jammers because you have a higher chance of hitting a multiracial gang than one of a single type.

Also, with my skills and fitting and ship, I get 200+ optimal jam range, that means stay 200km away from the fight. you shouldn't be right next to them and that way you can warp out cloak warp back in when you get in danger.

For small gangs a 1600 plate BB will do just fine. As for the jammers to fit, that is situational. Much of what you see are nanogang raiders these days. If you have the chance ALWAYS fit against the enemy. I do not mean just avoiding the multis. Fitting to shut down important parts of your foes is critical. For example, nano gangs will usually be mini heavy. Vagas, rapiers, huggins etc. I also see a decent amount of Caldari. Fit to shut them down. Do not be afraid to dedicate all or most of your EW to a certain faction if you know what you are likely to face. Sure you will not be able to jam everything but picking your fights is part of the game.

Oh and hi f13!

Of course, you also run across a lot of Ishtars in nano gangs. Not as many as vagas, but lots.

see, this is what I mean about knowing who you fight =) I believe the general flavor of nano gangs is quite regional. We see very few Ishtars by comparison.

Honestly, we really do see a little bit of everything. Vagas and rapiers are common of course, but the other day a gang of three nano-sacrileges came through armed with missiles and did a lot of damage.

where I live if there are nano sacs they are probably US! =) I am always interested in hearing about trends in other parts of the game.

They're incredibly effective for DPS at speed unlike gun-based HACs because they don't suffer tracking issues while orbiting at high velocities, and they don't suffer from DPS attrition like Ishtars do once the drones have all been scrapped. These guys would buzz in at 40-50km and fire off a few volleys then move out beyond drone range.

I agree the nano sac can be a useful weapon. We tend to resist such concepts though. True Amarrian ships for True Amarrians! Plus I hate the nano wankery craze.

Counter, a couple of tacklers and blackbirds with racial ecm.

How not to fit your BB

To be fair, he did managed to jam me pretty quickly, but I'm betting it took all five of his multispecs to do it and I had already sicced my drones on him. He got away after suffering major damage and warped right into the loving arms of the rest of the fleet.

On another note: do not EVER warp your BB to within 20km of a tackling ship. Noob.

Don't be like this guy either. Edit: Whoops, endie got him too and posted in the ecm thread.

Seems like he wanted to solo you, Phildo. It might have worked if he used racials on you with a web and warp jammer.

Would have worked great if he'd been able to break my tank and I hadn't had four guys in a nearby belt hunting him too. His backup: Ishkur, Vexor. Mine: lots of Drakes and a kestrel.