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The REAL REAL Talents and Spells database. (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/talents-and-spells.html)

Argh, the 40 point abilities are so nice, but I can't stand being pidgeonholed into specific roles.

Not sold on Slow at all. Overwritten by thunderclap in raids and 400+ mana. What can slow do that even an unenhanced frostbolt can't? Slow attack speed? I don't need more ways to kite people. None of the 41s do it for me in the mage trees

Wow, I can see the "zOMGWTF NERF WORLUX" posts from here. Affliction got some serious lovin', and if the curse database is correct, the felguard pet has intercept and mortal strike. And destruction gets an I WIN talent vs fire mages, shadow priests and other warlocks, not to mention a warstomp at 41 points. It's kind of refreshing that I will be able to spend 45+ (!) points in affliction now and not feel gimped, esp. since affliction is a minefield of horrible talents right now.

I think it's more the general "I hate being Crowd Controlled" thing, but that's being highly simplistic.

Warlock is one of the classes I haven't played past 4 or 5, so I have no experience with them.  However, I'm trying to figure why your reaction is so different from the 'locks I saw bitching in world chat (lfg) last night about how everyone else got 'all kinds of stuff and we get nothing but death seed'.   I'm going to go with the usual answer of, "If you bitching in a chat channel, chances are you're a terrible player and shouldn't be listened to"

Hmm, let's see the Mage 41 talents

Slow-Not bad, mostly seems to be a pvp tool.  Especially good vs. those charging warriors, sniping hunters and backstabbing rogues.  Does it's 20% attack speed reduction stack with Ice Armors 20%?  Seems so.  Only lasts 15secs, might be enough to kill your enemy.

Dragon's Breath-More burst damage is love, but it's modest damage.  The disorient is nice, gives the mage another tool to escape in pvp.  The 20sec cooldown is not too bad either, maybe follow this up with Cone of Cold would be a nice combo.  Or a Flamestrike, calling the artillery down on yourself and your targets.

Water Elemental-Not much to say, awesome to have a pet but how tough is he?  Would seem to be the weakest choice of the three if you are going pvp.  What does he do? Taunt?  More needs to be revealed for him.   :hello_kitty:

No rogue worth his salt is using ANY of the new talents.

I personally think extending the trees was a bad idea. It takes away the diversity of the classes, and to get some of the new talents you end up having to spec so deep in the trees it's not worth it. For a great example, look at rogue. No rogue worth his salt is using ANY of the new talents.

Im not so sure about that, the only horrible 41 point talent is the combat one which actually LOWERS your dps in raid situations (since you only get one roll to determine wether you crit/hit/miss/dodge/parry removing dodge would turn those backstabs into regular hits and its more energy efficient to get dodged and lose 11 energy than to get a non crit backstab).  Mutilate depending on how it works could completely replace backstab, that means you can lose the 8 points in the combat tree completely or keep imp gouge and max both imp ambush AND initiative in the sub tree. 41/3/16 would be an amazing pvp and pve build.  The only problem with the sub tree is that its TOO good, theres nothing in the top tiers that i feel i can skip so you end up with like 45 talents in sub if you want to go deep.  Cheat death is just sex, master of subtletly for those 3k ambushes not to mention the agi talent coupled with the attack power talent.  The 41 point talent just makes the subtletly rogue into even more of a 1vs1 master and when combined with the new 3 second silence on garrote it makes you basically inmune to mages for a whole 7 seconds, more than enough to win most fights.

All of this is subject to change, of course, except the fact that it took a post on the forums about evade for the developers to even REALIZE players couldn't dodge attacks from behind. This is how much they pay attention to the rogue class. Which is to say, not at all.

but us PvE raiders get basically nothing.

Moving Tactical Mastery to the Protection tree sucks balls for PvP Arms warriors. Absolutely kills the build on my little cow warrior.

Mutilate won't replace backstab because you don't get the extra crit chance from imp backstab

I have no empethy for warriors. They have been way to good for to long. I like that they are going to have to make some tough decisions now.

They get the choice to become EverQuest warriors, or to become nothing.  Not a tough decision for me; the obvious answer is reroll.

The devs or the CMs. Two different groups entirely.  The CMs have proven over and over that they don't have the depth of knowledge of  the more dedicated players.  Not that they could for every class (which is what the public expects), what with having 9-5 jobs instead of being in High School/ College with tons of hours to devote to min/maxing.

I believe you may be confusing dodge with parry. Melee attacks from behind, including backstab, can be dodged. It may seem odd that a target could dodge an attack from behind, but I assue you it is fully intended. The misunderstanding may also stem from old functionality, where attacks from behind could not be dodged. I believe that was changed before or very near to the release of the game. The talent and its text is sound.

To clarify (again?) melee attacks from behind can be dodged by mobs, as well being blocked and parried (resulting in a glancing blow). With the talent's placement in the combat tree it should be obvious that its use is intended in PvE situations.

I've spoken with the ability designers/programmers and there are no immediate indications to them that the Evasion ability has any facing requirements. I have passed it on to our QA department however and they will be investigating any unintended functionality.

I have no empethy for warriors. They have been way to good for to long. I like that they are going to have to make some tough decisions now.

BS. There are still tons of good PVP DPS builds. Yeah, maybe you wont be the king of DPS, but warriors never should have been. 45/11/5 is pretty nice, and I haven't even messed with a high fury build. Warriors will be fine. Hell they will be better than fine, they will still be major badasses. Your Tactical Mastery is a first tier talent in a different tree now, how do you think rogues felt when one of the MAJOR skills they need is 8 points in to the PVE tree. Ill say it again, warriors will be fine.

Can you say HOLY DPS 2H FURY?
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-warrior/talents.html?050050203320000000000005053101005512051120310000000000000000000000

Emphasis added.  The problem isn't that you cannot have a worthwhile PvP build or a worthwhile PvE build.  The issue is having a build that works decently in both areas.  Which is to say that the real issue isn't moving TM from Arms to Protection (though it does result in some wasted points), it is having actual mitigation and aggro abilities at the top of Protection.  You can bet your britches that Blizzard will balance encounters with the new tactics in mind.

The basic problem with the warrior class is that "tanking" does not exist in WoW PvP.  If you need to blow your talents on tanking, you've useless in PvP. 

hmm wrong, 2 out of the 3 bgs can make good use of tanking.  AV is just pve with bonus honor and if you dont think a good tank makes the best WSG flag holder you must not have been playing good teams.  One of the arenas in the expansion is supposed to match you against incresingly more powerfull waves of monsters, im sure tanking will come in handy there also.

Moving Tactical Mastery to the Protection tree sucks balls for PvP Arms warriors. Absolutely kills the build on my little cow warrior.

Moving Tactical Mastery to the Protection tree sucks balls for PvP Arms warriors. Absolutely kills the build on my little cow warrior.

Emphasis added.  The problem isn't that you cannot have a worthwhile PvP build or a worthwhile PvE build.  The issue is having a build that works decently in both areas.

That said... Druid stuff now plz.

Welcome to what pretty much every other class has had to do since launch.

PVP Spec very close to PVE DPS spec. The only time you need Prot warriors is if you are raiding high end, and if you are no one is LFG Prot, in less its a joke in guild chat. Also having a prot warrior on defence in the BGs is the next best thing to a pally. And they gave prot warrioras MORE offence. I dont see how anything has changed from before the patch except Tactical Mastery. All those gripes you have could apply to pre-expansion.

I'm still hoping the new stag form (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6020264244416084639&hl=en) isn't just for traveling.

That's just not true.  Heal-focused priests, paladins, druids and shamans are fucking awesome in PvP because healing is awesome in PvP.  They can make builds that are awesome in both.   

Honestly, they should have either made tanking worthwhile in PvP by making taunt briefly effective or adding various "take damage directed at your friendly target" type skills (which they refused to add on the asinine reasoning that it's un-fun to lose control of your character)

uhm, what? just because YOU don't like being dependant on another player (in a team game, no less!) doesn't mean it's not effective.

Are you serious about that?

Then what are mind control, blind, fear, distraction, sheep and stun effects?  I don't feel very in control when sheeped.

Or is it just that they don't want warriors causing the loss of control?   :roll:

Cool, now explain that to ElGallo, who's done the same thing for warriors.  :-D

See, the definition of "Effective" being tossed around in this thread is "solo other classes" not "work as a unit in a team."  It's the same definition used any time PvP whining happens.

Exactly, out of all the "loss of control" powers out there, if I'm forced to whack on that warrior that just taunted me, I'd pick that over walking around "baaahing" as a sheep.  At least I'm doing something.

I've always thought warriors should have taunting powers over players.  It is supposed to be their job!  Even if a taunt would just distract you from casting/hitting someone in your group, that would be enough.  I'd still  say it should make you at least take 5-6 steps towards the warrios as if it actually pissed you off enough to lose your mind for a few seconds.  Seems logical to me.

Anyway, back to the new talents.  Does it looks like the new sub talents will close the damage gap between hemo builds and combat dagger/sword builds in PvE?  I'm thinking of starting a rogue for the expansion, and I'd love to have all those utility talents in sub and still be a respectable raid damage dealer.

IMO, 2% crit means not much. Maybe some one can do the math and prove me wrong, but my gut feeling is that its a pretty weak talent.

They seem very interested in giving the non raiding specs raid utility, that feral buff is a huge dps boost for your rogues and warriors and basically a must have on the level of fort and they gave ret palis a 2% crit for the whole raid talent.  A great idea but i dont see it meshing so well with the new raid cap.

Bumpity bump. Druid talents have been leaked... some SERIOUS bonuses in there for feral/balance. It makes me want to main switch from a rogue.

http://wow.gamemeca.com/special/section/html_section/wow/focus/info_board/view.html?subcode=c0583&page=1&search_kind=&search_text=&id=4748&gid=4673&head=

I know little about Balance, but it looks like it gets the biggest boost of all. Now if only somebody leaked what new gear will be avaibable for it.

Actually for melee characters a 1% increase in crit chance is at least a 1% increase in dps (more if you have talents that increase crit damage like lethality does for backstabs), so it would be an increase of at least 2% of all your melee damage or slightly more.

Edit: i think you may have confused 1% increase in dps with 1dps, which are very far from the same.

thats 16% reduction, if you CAN get both, thats 32% reduction.  And considering that some druids can ALREADY hit 70% reduction in Bear form with top tier gear.........

Molten Armor seems almost completely worthless. 75 damage when you get hit isn't much at all, compared to what you'll be losing. And the crit recieved reduction, while a good idea..i'm just not sure it'll be better than Ice armor or Mage armor. And while those two have obvious uses, I'm not seeing Molten's. I have seen some comment that it'll be useful for AoE situations in PvE, so perhaps. I suppose if it can proc Impact it might have some use too.

Alchemy :
New cap - Herb Gathering (Master) : How to find and gather Outland herbs. Gives a potential herbalism skill of 375.

Alchemy Specializations :

Potion Master
Allows an alchemist to sometimes create an additional potion when brewing high level potions.

Transmutation Master
Allows an Alchemist to sometimes to get greater results when transmuting materials.

Elixir Master
Allows an alchemist to sometimes create an additional elixir when brewing high level elixirs.

Flasks :

Flask of Fortification
Increases the player's maximum health by 1500 and Defense Rating by 30 for 2 hour. You can only have the effect of one flask at a time. This effect persists though death.

Flask of Relentless Assault
Increases the player's attack power by 360 for 2 hour. You can only have the effect of one flask at a time. This effect persists though death.

Flask of Mighty Restoration
Increases the player's mana regeneration by 70 mana per 5 seconds for 2 hour. You can only have the effect of one flask at a time. This effect persists though death.

Flask of Shadow Fortification
Increases the player's resistance to shadow spells by 75 and health regeneration by 40 every 5 seconds for 2 hour. You can only have the effect of one flask at a time. This effect persists though death.

Flask of Arcane Fortification
Increases the player's resistance to arcane spells by 75 and health regeneration by 40 every 5 seconds for 2 hour. You can only have the effect of one flask at a time. This effect persists though death.

Potions :

Major Holy Protection Potion
Major Arcane Protection Potion
Major Dreamless Sleep Potion
Major Fire Protection Potion
Major Frost Protection Potion
Major Nature Protection Potion
Major Shadow Protection Potion

These absorb 2800-4000 damage

*Major Dreamless Sleep Potion : Puts the imbiber in a dreamless sleep for 12 sec. During that time the imbiber heals 3600 health and 3600 mana.
Super Healing Potion : Restores 1500-2500 health.
Super Mana Potion : Restores 1800-3000 mana.
*Heroic Potion : Increases Strength by 70 and temporarily increases health by 700 for 15 sec.
*Destruction Potion : Increases spell critical chance by 2% and spell damage by 120 for 15 sec.
*Ironshield Potion : Increases armor by 2500 for 2 min.
*Sneaking Potion : Increases Stealth a great deal for 30 sec.
*Shrouding Potion : Shrouds you from nearby enemies so you seem less threatening to them.
*Haste Potion : Increases Haste Rating by 400 for 15 sec.

Insane Strength Potion
Requires Level 45
Increases your Strength by 120 and decreases your Defense Rating by 75 for 15 sec.

Elixirs :

Elixir of Major Frost Power : Increases frost spell damage by up to 55 for 1 hour.
Elixir of Major Firepower : Increases fire spell damage by up to 65 for 1 hour.
Elixir of Major Agility : Increases your Agility by 35 for 1 hour.
Elixir of Major Armor : Increases armor by 550 for 1 hour.
*Elixir of Major Mageblood : Regenerate 16 mana per 5 sec for 1 hour.
Elixir of Empowerment : Decreases the magical resistances of your spell targets by 30 for 1 hour.
Elixir of the Searching Eye :
Elixir of Camouflage: Imbiber cannot be tracked for 1 hour.
*Elixir of Dodging :

Transmutes :

Transmute - Primal Earth to Life
Transmute - Primal Fire to Mana
Transmute - Primal Life to Earth
Transmute - Primal Mana to Fire
Transmute - Primal Shadow to Water
Transmute - Primal Water to Shadow
Transmute: Primal Earth to Water
Transmute: Primal Fire to Earth
Transmute - Primal Air to Fire
Transmute - Primal Water to Air

Transmute - Primal Might
Teaches you how to Transmute Primal Air, Water, Earth and Fire into Primal Might.

Primals are created with a spell "Create Primal XYZ" that uses "10 motes" of earth, shadow, air, etc. Not sure what profession is used to make those or where these items come from.

Engineering apparently has something to do with Alchemy now, my guess is that these two items create the Super Healing/Mana pots. The injectors are listed as requiring the Black Anvil. Good to see that at level 70 we'll still be running BRD.
Schematic: Healing Potion Injector
Schematic: Mana Potion Injector

Enchanting :

Boots :

* Enchant Boots - Dexterity : Permanently enchant a piece of boots armor to grant +12 Agility.
* Enchant Boots - Surefooted : Permanently enchant boots to give 5% snare and root resistance as well as a 1% bonus to hit.
* Enchant Boots - Vitality : Permanently enchant boots to restore 4 mana and health every 5 seconds.

Bracers :

* Enchant Bracer - Brawn : Permanently enchants bracers to increase Strength by 12.
* Enchant Bracer - Stats : Permanently enchants bracers to increase all stats by 4.
* Enchant Bracer - Major Defense : Permanently enchants bracers to increase your defense by 8.
* Enchant Bracer - Restore Mana Prime : Permanently enchants bracers to restore 6 mana every 5 seconds.
* Enchant Bracer - Spellpower : Permanently enchants bracers to increase damage done by spells by up to 15.
* Enchant Bracer - Superior Healing : Permanently enchants bracers to increase the effect of healing spells by up to 30.

Chest :

* Enchant Chest - Exceptional Health : Permanently enchant a piece of chest armor to grant +150 health.
* Enchant Chest - Exceptional Mana : Permanently enchant a piece of chest armor to grant +150 mana.
* Enchant Chest - Exceptional Stats : Permanently enchant a piece of chest armor to increase all stats by 6.

Cloak :

* Enchant Cloak - Major Armor : Permanently enchant a cloak to give a 120 additional armor.
* Enchant Cloak - Major Resistance : Permanently enchant a cloak to increase all resistances by 7.

Ring :

* Enchant Ring - Healing Power : Permanently enchant a ring to increase healing spell effects by up to 20.
* Enchant Ring - Spellpower : Permanently enchant a ring to add up to 12 damage to spells.
* Enchant Ring - Stats : Permanently enchant a ring to increase all stats by 4.
* Enchant Ring - Weapon Might : Permanently enchant a ring to add 2 damage to physical attacks.

Shield :

* Enchant Shield - Though Shield : Permanently enchant a shield to give 18 additional block value.
* Enchant Shield - Shield Block : Permanently enchant a shield to give +15 Shield Block Rating.
* Enchant Shield - Intellect : Permanently enchant a shield to give 12 intellect.
* Enchant Shield - Resistance : Permanently enchant a shield to increase resistance to all magic schools by 5.

Weapon :

* Enchant Weapon - Battlemaster : Permanently enchant a weapon to give a chance on striking to heal your party of 50 damage over 10 seconds.
* Enchant Weapon - Major Spirit : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to increase Spirit by 35.
* Enchant Weapon - Major Striking : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to do 7 additional points of damage.
* Enchant Weapon - Major Intellect : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to grant +30 Intellect.
* Enchant Weapon - Potency : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to add 20 Strength.
* Enchant Weapon - Major Spellpower : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to add up to 40 damage to all spells.
* Enchant Weapon - Sunfire : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to add up to 50 damage to fire and arcane spells.
* Enchant Weapon - Soulfrost : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to add up to 54 damage to frost and shadow spells.
* Enchant Weapon - Mongoose : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to occasionally increase Agility by 120 and attack speed slightly.
* Enchant Weapon - Spellsurge : Permanently enchant a melee weapon to have a 3% chance on spellcast to restore 100 mana to all party members of 10 seconds.
* Enchant 2H Weapon - Major Agility : Permanently enchant a two-handed melee weapon to add 35 Agility.
* Enchant 2H Weapon - Savagery : Permanently enchant a two-handed melee weapon to increase attack power by 70.

*Engineering :

Fireworks :

- Blue Smoke Flare : Throw a blue smoke flare at a specific location that lasts for 5 min.
- Green Smoke Flare : Throw a green smoke flare at a specific location that lasts for 5 min.
- Red Smoke Flare : Throw a red smoke flare at a specific location that lasts for 5 min.
- White Smoke Flare : Throw a white smoke flare at a specific location that lasts for 5 min.

Explosives :

- Adamantite Grenade : Inflicts 450-751 Fire damage and stuns targets for 3 sec in a 3 yard radius. Any damage will break the effect. Unreliable against targets higher than level 80.
- Elemental Seaforium Charge : Blasts open all but the mightiest of locked doors.
- Fel Iron Bomb : Inflicts 330-771 Fire damage and stuns targets in a 5 yard radius for 3 sec. Any damage will break the effect. Unrelaible against targets higher than level 76.
- Rocket Launcher : Fire a Powerful Rocket at the enemy that does 960 to 1440 damage and stuns them for 2 sec. This thing has quite a kick though...
- Supper Sapper Charge : Explodes when triggered dealing 675 to 1125 Fire damage to all enemies nearby and 900 to 1500 to you.
- The Bigger One : Inflicts 600-1001 Fire damage and stuns targets for 5 sec in a 10 yard radius. Any damage will break the effect. Unrelaible against targets higher than level 80.

Head stuff and various gadgets :

- Critter Enlarger : Enlarges a critter to twice its normal size.
- Foreman's Enchanted Helmet : Increases your chance to resist Silence and Interrupts effects by 10%.
- Foreman's Reinforced Helmet : Increases your chance to resist Stun and Disorient effects by 10%.
- Gnomish Flame Turret : Quickly constructs a gnomish flame turret at your feet that will nearly always attack nearby enemies.
- Gnomish Poultryizer : Turns the target into a chicken for 15 seconds. Well, that is assuming the transmogrification polarity has not been reversed....
- Hyper-Vision Goggles : Increases your stealth detection for 15 sec.
- Remote Mail Terminal : Unfold the Remote Mail Terminal so that it can receive and send mail. It only has enough power to last for 5 min.
- Rocket Boots Xtreme : Engage the rocket boots to greatly increase your speed. You probably wont be still standing when you get there though...

Scopes :

- Stabilized Eternium Scope : Attaches a permanent scope to a bow or gun that increases its Critical Hit Rating by 1%.
- Khorium Scope : Attaches a permanent scope to a bow or gun that increases its damage by 12.
- Adamantite Scope : Attaches a permanent scope to a bow or gun that increases its damage by 10.

Missing descritpions :

Adamantite Frame
Adamantite Rifle
Adamantite Shells
Cogspinner Goggles
Crashin' Thrashin' Robot
Critter Enlarger
Elemental Blasting Powder
Fel Iron Casing
Fel Iron Musket
Fel Iron Shells
Fel Iron Toolbox
Felsteel Boomstick
Felsteel Stabilizer
Gnomish Battle Goggles
Gnomish Poultryizer
Gnomish Power Goggles
Handful of Fel Iron Bolts
Gnomish Tonk Controller
Goblin Tonk Controller
Hardened Adamantite Tube
Healing Potion Injector
Khorium Power Core
Khorium Toolbox
Mana Potion Injector
Nigh-Invulnerability Belt
Ornate Khorium Rifle
Ornate Khorium Rifle
Power Amplification Goggles
Ultra-Spectropic Detection Goggles
Zapthrottle Mote Extractor

*Jewelcrafting :

Cut Agate
Cut Aquamarine
Cut Azerothian Diamond
Cut Citrine
Cut Emerald
Cut Jade
Cut Malachite
Cut Moonstone
Cut Opal
Cut Ruby
Cut Sapphire
Cut Shadowgem
Cut Tigerseye

Trinkets :

- Figurine - Black Diamond Crab : Reduces melee damage taken by 35 for 20 sec.
- Figurine - Black Pearl Panther : Increases attack power by 90 for 12 sec.
- Figurine - Dark Iron Scorpid : Every swing poisons your foe for 15 damage over 10 sec.
- Figurine - Dawnstone Crab : Reduces melee damage taken by 50 for 20 sec.
- Figurine - Emerald Owl : Restores 60 mana every second for 12 sec.
- Figurine - Felsteel Boar : Summons the Felsteel Boar to fight for you.
- Figurine - Golden Hare : Increased speed by 30% and prevents new snares from landing on the user for 12 sec.
- Figurine - Jade Owl : Restores 30 mana every second for 12 sec.
- Figurine - Living Ruby Serpent : Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 150 for 20 sec.
- Figurine - Nightseye Panther : Increases attack power by 320 for 12 sec.
- Figurine - Ruby Serpent : Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 100 for 20 sec.
- Figurine - Talasite Owl : Restores 900 mana over 12 sec.
- Figurine - Truesilver Boar : Summons the Truesilver Boar to fight for you for 30 seconds.
- F igurine - Truesilver Crab : Reduces melee damage taken by 20 for 20 sec.


Bold Blood Garnet
Bold Living Ruby
Bright Living Ruby
Brilliant Dawnstone
Brilliant Golden Draenite
Dawnstone Crab
Dazzling Deep Peridot
Dazzling Talasite
Delicate Blood Garnet
Enduring Deep Peridot
Enduring Talasite
Enscribed Noble Topaz
Enscribed Flame Spessarite
Flashing Living Ruby
Gleaming Dawnstone
Gleaming Golden Draenite
Glinting Flame Spessarite
Glinting Noble Topaz
Glowing Nightseye
Glowing Shadow Draenite
Jagged Deep Peridot
Jagged Talasite
Luminous Flame Spessarite
Luminous Noble Topaz
Lustrous Azure Moonstone
Lustrous Star of Elune
Mystic Dawnstone
Potent Flame Spessarite
Potent Noble Topaz
Radiant Deep Peridot
Radiant Talasite
Rigid Dawnstone
Rigid Golden Draenite
Royal Nightseye
Royal Shadow Draenite
Runed Blood Garnet
Runed Living Ruby
Shifting Nightseye
Shifting Shadow Draenite
Smooth Dawnstone
Solid Azure Moonstone
Subtle Living Ruby
Teadrop Living Ruby
Teardrop Blood Garnet
Solid Star of Elune
Sovereign Nightseye
Sovereign Shadow Draenite
Sparkling Azure Moonstone
Sparkling Star of Elune
Stormy Azure Moonstone
Stormy Star of Elune
Thick Dawnstone
Thick Golden Draenite

Amulet of the Moon
Arcane Khorium Band
Arcanite Sword Pendant
Blazing Citrine Ring
Blazing Eternium Band
Blood Crown
Braided Eternium Chain
Chain of the Twilight Owl
Circlet of Arcane Might
Citrine Pendant of Golden Healing
Coronet of the Verdant Flame
Delicate Eternium Ring
Delicate Living Ruby
Embrace of the Dawn
Emerald Crown of Destruction
Engraved Truesilver Ring
Eye of the Night
Fel Iron Blood Ring
Gem Studded Band
Golden Draenite Ring
Golden Dragon Ring
Heavy Adamantite Ring
Heavy Copper Ring
Heavy Felsteel Ring
Heavy Golden Necklace of Battle
Heavy Iron Knuckles
Heavy Silver Ring
Inlaid Malachite Ring
Jade Pendant of Blasting
Khorium Band of Frost
Khorium Band of Leaves
Khorium Band of Shadows
Khorium Inferno Band
Living Emerald Pendant
Living Ruby Pendant
Malachite Pendant
Necklace of the Diamond Tower
Onslaught Ring
Opal Necklace of Impact
Ornate Tigerseye Necklace
Pendant of Frozen Flame
Pendant of Shadow's End
Pendant of Thawing
Pendant of the Agate Shield
Pendant of the Null Rune
Pendant of Withering
Ring of Bitter Shadows
Ring of Silver Might
Ring of Twilight Shadows
Ruby Crown of Restoration
Ruby Pendant of Fire
Sapphire Pendant of Winter Night
Sapphire Signet
Silver Rose Pendant
Simple Opal Ring
Simple Pearl Ring
Solid Bronze Ring
Thick Adamantite Necklace
Thick Bronze Necklace
Thick Felsteel Necklace
Tigerseye Band
Truesilver Healing Ring
Wicked Moonstone Ring
Woven Copper Ring

*Blacksmithing :

Felsteel Shield Spike: Attaches a Felsteel Spike to your shield that deals 26-38 damage every time you block with it.

Greater Rune of Shielding : Applies the Greater Rune of Shielding to a shield. This rune absorbs up to 4000 points of damage before it fails.
Greater Rune of Warding : Put a Greater Rune of Warding on chest armor or robe that stops 400 points of damage every 2 minutes. Lasts for 1 hour.
Lesser Rune of Shielding : Applies the Lesser Rune of Shielding to your shield. This rune absorbs up to 1000 points of damage before it fails.
Lesser Rune of Warding : Put a Lesser Rune of Warding on chest armor or a robe that stops 200 points of damage every 2 minutes. Lasts for 1 hour.

Adamantite Sharpening Stone : Increase sharp weapon damage by 12 and add 1% crit for 30 minutes.
Fel Sharpening Stone : Increase sharp weapon damage by 12 for 30 minutes.

Adamantite Breastplate
Adamantite Cleaver
Adamantite Dagger
Adamantite Maul
Adamantite Plate Bracers
Adamantite Plate Gloves
Adamantite Rapier
Black Felsteel Bracers
Blessed Bracers
Bracers of the Green Fortress
Dirge
Earthpeace Breastplate
Enchanted Adamantite Belt
Enchanted Adamantite Boots
Enchanted Adamantite Breastplate
Enchanted Adamantite Leggings
Eternium Runed Blade
Fel Edged Battleaxe
Fel Hardened Maul
Fel Iron Breastplate
Fel Iron Chain Bracers
Fel Iron Chain Coif
Fel Iron Chain Gloves
Fel Iron Chain Tunic
Fel Iron Greatsword
Fel Iron Hammer
Fel Iron Hatchet
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Shadowiron Helm
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Storm Helm
Swiftsteel Gloves

*Leatherworking :

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Outland Leather
Primal Riding Crop
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Scaled Outland Gloves
Scaled Outland Pants
Scaled Outland Vest
Stylin' Adventure Hat
Stylin' Crimson Hat
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Thick Outland Boots
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Thick Outland Vest
Wild Outland Boots
Wild Outland Gloves
Wild Outland Leggings
Wild Outland Vest

Mages got a few nifty little things, but most of the new stuff seems either pretty uninspired, weaker than existing abilities, or almost pointless.

seems half-baked with the 2minute limit and inability to select the buff you are stealing.  Not sure why they didnt just let you steal the buf for whatever duration it has left, or maybe allow some mechanism for player selection of the desired buff.

For shaman, none of the 41 point talents seem worth it.  Totem of Wrath is lol compared to NS unless you are sincere about being a PvE DPS shaman (lol?).  Shamanistic rage isn't even worth considering compared to Elemental Fury.  Nature's Blessing just seems like a kind-hearted attempt by the dev's to ease the pain of being a resto shaman.

Priest Stuff! (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-priest/talents.html#none)

Nowhere near as nice as the stuff people have been linking to for Holy.  The Champion system is apparently part NPC scripting (Probably Morgraine's SM encounter, but who knows.)

The AOE dispell sounds nice, but overall I'm "Meh" about most of it right now.  I imagine the priest forums are in an unholy uproar because they weren't made some sort of mini healing & nuking ubergod.  Time to go check.

To a non-priest, all those talents released look awesome.  Just awesome.

They have got to change holy tree.  The 41 pointer is probably one of the worst talents you could spec into.  The effort it would take to drag it onto your action bar literally outweighs any benefit it may theoretically provide..

Just to be clear on the lightwell thing:  Can you not only move, but cast other spells too?  Meaning, drop it so that the OT and other team members can go get heals when they catch too much agro when they need, while I continue to direct heal the MT?  That would be the only way I'd see this as beneficial.  Actually, that might be really useful if people don't abuse it.

Otherwise, it would only be useful for a few fights out the thousands it really wouldn't work in.

Did they change lightwell? Last time I knew, it was a channeled ability to heal. You slap it down, and they have to stand there, doing nothing, channeling (which means it cancels when you move / get hit) while healing. This makes it nigh worthless.

Which is kind of like what we were already... just with more DPS and more healing. Inspired!

Holy Shit

Yeah, that would make it worthless.  It's not like that.

Also, I've never noticed my lightwell healing going once I take damage either.  Honestly, we found it invaluable for the Razorgore fight, kiting the dragons.

Ah well.  I'm no HARD CORE Raider, so I'll shut up.

Umm, where you expencting a class revamp? This is what most people got. IMO priests got better stuff than a lot of classes. At least there is talk of speccing in to some of the 41 point talents.

And speaking of itemization.  Nerf Aimed Shot... that way I can get a bow more like the insane melee weapons and Blizzard doesn't have to worry about me one-shotting T3 protection warriors while wearing their shields.  Grr.

Don't be like that. None of us are calling you a noob or pulling the "omg u sux" bullshit.  It works for your guild, great, continue on!

Warlock: STILL no way to dump aggro.

And speaking of itemization.  Nerf Aimed Shot... that way I can get a bow more like the insane melee weapons and Blizzard doesn't have to worry about me one-shotting T3 protection warriors while wearing their shields.  Grr.

I hate the new crit rating system, I think it sucks nuts and is a crappy, crappy excuse to force people to upgrade more items.

They really need to take a good hard look at some of the classes, all of them have problems:

Warrior: Probably nerfing rage, some talent nerfs, still inferior DPS
Shaman: Great burst DPS, totems still inferior, steady DPS still lackluster, get dumped into healing role anyway so it doesn't matter.
Paladin: Bubble is no more, but hey, you can be a tank now! Just kidding, you'll still be on healing duty like the shaman.
Hunter:  Shot rotation means many 'high level' bows are actually inferior, no matter what the stats are.
Rogue: No reason to take higher level talents, daggers become inferior to swords with new talents due to sword getting seal fate+combat.
Priest: Lackluster talents, relegated to healbot, shadow spec MAY be viable now, itemization still poor.
Warlock: STILL no way to dump aggro.
Mage: decent stuff, but nothing spectacular, later talents inferior to previous talents, much like the rogue, better to use the 10 pts and spec 2 trees.
Druid: More raid buffs are good, moonkin may be worth taking now, you'll want one feral one balance one resto in each raid.. itemization still sucks for non-resto.

It depends on how they do it.  I'd like to see the raw numbers before thinking anything is a good idea -- or at least the new talents. I don't trust them to actually balance the aimed shot changes with better itemization. Still, if they were going to do it -- simply do better post-60 hunter weapons, but don't add much to the post-60 aimed shot. That way pre-60 itemization and aimed shot still work.

Are we going to get a new DOT or something?  Why the hell does it say all my DOT spells get the effect?

Just because you happen to be in a boring raid guild with no imagination doesn't mean all the classes play like you force your members to play them.

Holy shit MOST people who play this game don't give a flying FUCK about your stupid 40 man raids where you all copy someone else's strategy and implement it poorly over and over again until you manage to scrape a win because you have an idiot "raid leader" who can't think for himself and a bunch of members who are drones or busy people who know better but are forced to follow their inferiors because they happen to have obligations outside the world of warcraft and cant wank endless hours a week doing nothing at all but think about a computer game.

All I can come up with is it'll affect the Holy Fire dot component, too. Woo?  I don't think it's going to consider the 8s pets a 'dot.'

One of the challenges that is coming in the expansion is the high overlap of abilities which will require people to fulfill more than one role.

Now there will still be mouthbreathers like you trying to PUG it up, and you'll fail miserably because of your "unique snowflake" talent builds, your unwillingness to work together and your failure at basic math

but people like myself are trying to analyze each of the new character classes and figure out where and how they fit together in this new, smaller, faster paced raid dynamic. That is what's fun for me. Half the game for me is the metagame, planning characters, analyzing abilities, developing strategies.

It's fine that your way of playing is (apparently) going in there with a 17/17/17 "I am uber!" build with your 9 other guildies (that you probably had to pay to sign the charter), head up to UBRS, clear it first time through (because 40 mans are for pussies), log off, fuck your supermodel girlfriend, then fly your private jet to your private volcano island where you spend the rest of the day paying chuck norris to roundhouse kick people who play a game different than you in the face.

I can very easily see people who might have an issue with the re-targeting midfight aspect of combat.

I would probably have trouble with this, you're right.   I have the MT target windows on the right side, and the health bars on the left; problem wouldn't be clicking to target the mob, it would be that I sometimes am out of range of the thing.  Been on many raids where I had to be in range of the main raid body, and out of range of the burn target.

I'm not sure if healing focus includes shadowmend as a "healing" spell, I somewhat doubt it, so I didn't put any points in it.

The real question on the 41 holy talent is the exact definition of "your group."  A lot of people seem to be interpreting it as "your raid group." like a Druid's tranquility.  If so then it's uber (and zomg the aggro..)  I think it just means "your 5-man group" like all other group buffs, though, in which case it's only a "meh" and not worth the extra points, imo. I'd rather go with 31disc/ 30 holy for raiding stuff.

New News (http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/24819-healing-dots-stacking-pet-dmg-tbc.html) I got from the FOH boards.  Heal Over Times to stack, and Pets will scale with the stats of the pet owner.  Niiiice.

Beast Mastery

Tier 6 - Animal Handler - Increases your speed while mounted by 4% and your pet's chance to hit by 2%. The mounted movement speed increase does not stack with other effects. (8/4%)
Tier 7 - Ferocious Inspiration - When your pet scores a critical hit, all party members have all damage increased by 1% for 10 sec. (2/3%)
Tier 7 - Catlike Reflexes - Increases your chance to dodge and your pet's chance to dodge by an additional 2%. (4/6%)
Tier 8 - Serpent's Swiftness - Increases ranged combat attack speed by 4% and your pet's melee attack speed by 4%. (8+8/12+12/16+16/20+20%)
Tier 9 - The Beast Within - When your pet is under the effects of Bestial Wrath, you also go into a rage causing 30% additional damage for 18 sec. While enraged, you do not feel pity or remorse or fear and you cannot be stopped unless killed.

Survial
Tier 4 - Resourcefulness - Reduces the mana cost of all traps and melee abilities by 20% and reduces the cooldown of all traps by 2 sec. ( 40%+4sec/60%+6sec)
Tier 6 - Survival Instincts - Reduces all damage taken by 2%. (4%)
Tier 7 - Thrill of the Hunt - Gives you a 33% chance to regain 50% of the mana cost of any shot when it critically hits. (66/100%)
Tier 7 - Expose Weakness - Your ranged criticals have a 10% chance to apply an Expose Weakness effect to the target. Expose Weakness increases the attack power of all attackers against that target by 25% of your Agility for 7 sec. (20/30%)
Tier 8 - Master Tactician - Your successful ranged attacks have a 25% chance to increase your critical strike chance with all attacks by 1% for 8 sec. (2/3/4/5%)
Tier 9 - Readiness - When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Hunter abilities.

Marksman
Tier 5 - Silent Hunter - Reduces threat from all attacks by 7%. (12/17%)
Tier 6 - Combat Experience - Increases your total Agility, Stamina and Intellect by 3%. (6%)
Tier 7 - Displacement - Reduces your chance to be hit by all attacks by 1%. (2/3%)
Tier 7 - Zen Marksmanship - Increases your ranged attack power by an amount equal to 8% of your total Intellect. (16/25%)
Tier 8 - Master Marksman - Increases your ranged attack power by 2%. (4/6/8/10%)
Tier 9 - Silencing Shot - A shot that deals 50% weapon damage and Silences the target for 3 sec.

Level
Kill Command
Give the command to kill, causing your pet to instantly attack for an additional 127 damage. Can only be used after the Hunter lands a critical strike on the target.

Level 62
Aspect of the Viper
The hunter takes on the aspects of a viper, regenerating mana equal to 25% of his Intellect every 5 sec. Only one Aspect can be active at a time.

Level 64
Steady Shot
A steady shot that causes RAP*0.3+100 damage. Causes an additional 175 against Dazed targets.

Level 68
Snake Trap
Place a trap that will release several venomous snakes to attack the first enemy to approach. The snakes will die after 15 sec. Trap will exist for 60 sec. Only one trap can be active at a time.


All Talents seems up to speed now, just a couple of Base Skills

New Pet Types
Dragonhawk
Dragonhawk Fire - Targets in a cone in front of the caster take $m1*3 Fire damage over 2 sec.

Interesting.  I wonder how this will affect the 41 point talent Ice tree Water Elemental pet.

Rumor has it that one of the Elementals effects is a passive aura that gives it a 30% chance to act as a grounding totem.

Tier 9 - Readiness - When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Hunter abilities.

If this ability doesent share / trigger the cooldown timer on the hunter Edge of Madness ZG trinket that would be BROKEN BROKEN BROKEN.

Aimed shot, Multishot, ZG trinket, Multishot, Readiness, Multishot, would simply SUCK.

Tier 9 - Readiness - When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Hunter abilities.

If this ability doesent share / trigger the cooldown timer on the hunter Edge of Madness ZG trinket that would be BROKEN BROKEN BROKEN.

Aimed shot, Multishot, ZG trinket, Multishot, Readiness, Multishot, would simply SUCK.

Well, I understand they're making changes to auto-shot and adding in steady shot (another instant) or something similar. I understand the stated goal is to break the Aimed-auto-multi-aimed rotation by making arcane shot and supposedly this new instant steady shot more useful.

I wish there was word on whether they were changing the pet mechanics or adding stable slots. I know some hunters were hoping for "summonable" pets (basically taking up an inventory slot like your mount, only changeable out of combat -- probably 30 seconds out of combat), but I hope they at least add a stable slot or two. Three pets is a bare minimum for a Hunter, and that leaves nothing for a "Go learn a new talent" pet.

The threat reduction talent is nice if you're going MM. I know you can always FD to wipe aggro, but I find that often leaves me with FD on cooldown when I really need it. I suspect it's there to help pets keep aggro if you're MM specced.

That was my thought as well.  There's NUMEROUS times I've aimed-critted, feigned and popped right back up to get 2-3 more crits as I stared at the cooldown just hitting 20s. 

Very very happy with this tree.  Oh please don't be fake.  :-D

That snake trap should have been scorpions instead...

As for pet slots -- if they're changing how you learn tricks, I'm good with sticking to three. I've got my 1.5 cat (my first pet -- snow leopard for my Dwarf Hunter) -- high resistance spec for PvP, a LBRS warg (since all pets are good for in raids is Furious Howl -- fire and armor specced), and I think currently nothing else. I've been toying with getting the ZG bat, but I'ld like to see what Outland has to offer.

That snake trap should have been scorpions instead...

Jesus fuck. Hunters were pretty obscenely powerful to begin with from what I see of well equipped ones, and this is makes them crazy fucking good. It looks like there's more than just one/two cookie cutter specs open now though, which is nice.

I'm thrilled. I think the changes are enough to convince the bloody priests to heal my damn pet.

I heal pets... when I can actually see their healths :P.

Yes, there are several notable changes.

1. Traps are now on a 30 sec cooldown, but can be used in combat (you no longer need to feign/trap).

2. When feign death is resisted, you are still reduced to 0 threat for any targets that did not resist feign death (although if any creature resists the feign, you won't be taken completely out of combat, you'll still be on the creature group's target list).

3. Attack Power and Crit related changes:
a. Hunters now get 1 AP per Agility rather than 2. This change helps us provide more interesting stat distributions on hunter items. Previously, Hunters valued Agi significantly above any other stat, such that it was extremely difficult for us to create variety among Hunter items. For example, before this change, we could have spent 1 stat point on an item to give you either 2 AP or 1 Agi (which gave 2 AP along with a small bonus to crit and a small bonus to dodge... clearly the better choice). However, several changes have been made along with this change in order to offset the AP loss.

b. Hunters now get significantly more crit per point of Agility than before (about 33agi/crit at level 60).

c. Hunters now get more dodge per point of Agility than before (about 20agi/dodge at lvl 60).

d. Ranged weapons have had their damage values significantly increased (and consequently the weapon's dps)... this also helps make weapon upgrades feel more meaningful for Hunters than it did previously (along with the other changes, this change is retroactive).

e. Most Hunter equipment has been updated to have a better distribution between +Attack Power bonuses and Agility.

4. Aimed Shot related changes:
a. Aimed Shot now resets the Hunter's shot timer. This talent was always intended to be an "opening" shot, and not something that would be woven between shots. However, since Aimed Shot became such a core element for Hunter DPS, we didn't want to make this change until we were prepared to make several other changes to increase hunter DPS to offset it. Fortunately, this means that some of the odd side effects of the old Aimed Shot are no longer relevant, such as requiring hunters to use extremely slow weapons to maximize their DPS (weapons slow enough to be able to use Aimed Shot in between auto shots)

b. Arcane Shot now does substantially more damage than it did before, and scales with AP.

c. Steady Shot has been introduced as a core ability in the expansion, and provides much the same kind of gameplay as Aimed Shot did in the past (a shot you weave in between your normal shots), but to a much more managable degree (since it's a 1.5 sec shot, it doesn't require as slow of a weapon to take advantage of, and doesn't require to stand still for as long).

5. Other note: Wyvern Sting may now be used in combat.

can you imagine facing a 0.8 speed pet in PvP? As a caster?

I'm going heavy BM too - its always been a good levelling spec anyway, and now it is very useful PvP as well.  Brokentooth (speed 1.0) * 20% serpent speed * 30% frenzy = 0.56 attack speed (if Ive got my sums right).  Add in bestial wrath and my ol' cat is going to be eating clothies for breakfast.

With the right pet -- even if the pet talents are all BS -- we're talking boosts to you AND your pet, and minor party buffs. What about the Misdirection spell? Yes, indeed, let me blow my long cool-downs, drop a ton of burst DPS, and dump all the threat on the tank. He'll thank me for it.

1. Traps are now on a 30 sec cooldown, but can be used in combat (you no longer need to feign/trap).

5. Other note: Wyvern Sting may now be used in combat.

Wait, so Wyvern Sting will be a 12 second sleep usable in combat that works against everything?

I know why Hawk's Eye was moved -- that extra six yards was pretty much part of any build, and it meant that Hunters were generally outside the AoE of any boss. They made it more expensive to have.

Lead Dev Reply about the Hunter Changes (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32156379&pageNo=5)

The more I read, the more terrified I get.

Where's the ability to strap tactical nukes to the back of your pets ?

 :|

Also bear in mind that hunter AP in generally just got halved. They're supposed to change itemization to reflect this, so paper DPS should remain steady.

Actually from what I hear the AP will probably be about the same for hunters, and maybe increasing slightly just because combining AP and agility is more efficient dps-wise in use of itemization points. Compared to the old Dragonstalker's Helm (27 agility) the new one has been reported to be 18 agility, 36 attack power. I think what might actually suffer more is crit chance.

If I understand what they're doing correctly, they're moving away from the "Must Have Slow Powerful Weapon" and opening up to faster ones.

People on the other end of our guns shouldn't be facing as many huge crits as before, because it looks like faster weapons (especially for MM specs) are going to be desireable. Our crits are going to be smaller just off itemization.

They've changed the crit numbers -- it's like 33 agility per crit now.

I think I'll just main switch out of rogue. The expansion doesn't give me anything new, it takes it away. I won't be able to have adrenaline rush anymore.

1 point for 5% increased backstab/sinister strike/shiv damage seems like a pretty good PvE talent to me, but I might be mistaken.  Obviously not so much for PvP.

1 point for 5% increased backstab/sinister strike/shiv damage seems like a pretty good PvE talent to me, but I might be mistaken.  Obviously not so much for PvP.

To be honest, the top level talents may as well not be there for Rogues.  I've looked and looked and Ironwood will not be going above 31 points in any tree.  It's pretty pointless.

Uh, yeah.  I'm gonna go 41 points in for other people.  Because all the posts I've ever written have told you how much of a people person I am.

 :wink:

Oh, and in another huge buff to Hunter raid utility, Improved Hunter's Mark will be changing so that the attack bonus will apply to Melee Attacks from all attackers as well as ranged attacks instead of just upping the RAP bonus.

1.5sec cast time on traps? Damn, I'm going to miss insta-cast when Im being chased by a train of mobs/Allies.

1.5sec cast time on traps? Damn, I'm going to miss insta-cast when Im being chased by a train of mobs/Allies.

Don't believe everything you read. Currently in beta traps are still insta cast. I don't know who came up with the rumor of a cast time but I haven't seen anything from a blue name regarding it at all.

Well, if they're insta -- which I would prefer -- they're still on the 30s cooldown. Anyone in the Alpha or Beta tried out Viper traps yet? I'd like to see how that works, especially against groups.

Viper traps are 68 or so and beta is capped at 67 atm I think.

Druid Talents updated. They basically ported the Feral-ish talents in Balance to Resto, and combined Imp Healing Touch with Natural Weapons. Score. The one thing I'm not sure of is if the new 3pt Feral Instinct is still as effective as Rogue's 5pt Master of Deception. If it isn't... damn, but it's a very nice buff for the bear tanks. A mild nerf for PvP cats. Either way though... so much love :heart:.

There is great joy in my Feral Hybrid pants. (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=zzZxGMscddVhsZVEIz0o)

Oh my gods. This is absolutely perfect. :heart:

(I am sure it will change.)

Well, if they're insta -- which I would prefer -- they're still on the 30s cooldown. Anyone in the Alpha or Beta tried out Viper traps yet? I'd like to see how that works, especially against groups.