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Title: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on May 10, 2006, 07:33:46 AM Linky (http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060510/20060510005030.html)
Quote Turbine Announces Beta Program for The Lord of the Rings Online(TM): Shadows of Angmar(TM) Wednesday May 10, 8:01 am ET Players have an Opportunity to Win Coveted Beta Slots at E3 2006 WESTWOOD, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 10, 2006--Turbine, Inc. has officially started taking Beta player registrations for the highly-anticipated The Lord of the Rings Online(TM): Shadows of Angmar(TM), the first and only massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) based on the literary works of J.R.R. Tolkien. To sign up for their chance to be selected for The Lord of the Rings Online(TM) Beta, players should head to http://beta.turbine.com/signup. The Beta Program will launch later this summer "If you have ever read the books or seen the movies, you have wanted to be a part of Tolkien's epic adventure," said Jeffrey Anderson, president and CEO of Turbine, Inc. "Players everywhere will finally get the chance with this MMORPG; we are excited about bringing players into Middle-earth." The Lord of the Rings Online will be showcased at the upcoming Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), the world's biggest trade event exclusively dedicated to showcasing the best in interactive entertainment and software, where players can play as one of four characters in the game as they are sent by a Ranger to reclaim Weathertop from a party of Orcs. Players who complete the mission successfully will win a slot into the Beta. The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar allows players to explore the most famous fantasy world of all time, fight the evil minions of the Dark Lord Sauron, and advance their heroes by adventuring through the vast reaches of Middle-earth(TM). Fans of The Lord of the Rings are also encouraged to register for the Beta at the official web site, www.thelordoftheringsonline.com. The LOTRO forums are being wiped today so the beta link isn't working for me as yet. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on May 10, 2006, 08:05:06 AM Site should be up in about an hour.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Ironwood on May 10, 2006, 08:10:15 AM This is folly. Not with a thousand men could you do this.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Samwise on May 10, 2006, 08:23:31 AM Thread over. Ironwood wins.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on May 10, 2006, 09:02:23 AM The site is live!
http://lotro.turbine.com/betasignup Oh and, for the guild section of the signup process, if you all want to enter "f13.net" as the guild name that's perfectly fine. Just make sure you all enter it exactly the same. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Rasix on May 10, 2006, 09:14:31 AM I really hate it when they ask you to paste your dxdiag or other crap like that. Means I have to wait until I get home to apply. :|
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Xanthippe on May 10, 2006, 09:18:02 AM You don't have to post your dxdiag, it's optional.
And you could answer "don't know" to all the questions about your computer - the ones I have to keep looking up - I have a mental block about specs for some reason, whether it's computers, cars, stereos. It's too late for me to put in f13.net :( Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on May 10, 2006, 09:20:53 AM You can edit your beta information. Just click the Beta Application button on the forums and there will be an option to edit your Beta info.
And yes, the dxdiag info is optional. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on May 10, 2006, 09:42:52 AM Are we going to try to go in together as "f13.net" or "F13.net" or "Bat Country" or something else?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on May 10, 2006, 09:44:05 AM The forum database purge has reduced the accounts from over 110,000 to 9824 (http://lotro.turbine.com/forums/member.php?u=9824), should be interesting to see that shoot up with applications.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Murgos on May 10, 2006, 09:50:30 AM I went with "f13.net" and put WoW as our most active (not that I think that matters), though I think as a guild we are probably most coherent in EVE.
edit: Crap I've played or Beta'd nearly every MMO on that list. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: stray on May 10, 2006, 09:52:52 AM I put "f13.net"
edit: Crap I've played or Beta'd nearly every MMO on that list. The form would only let me pick one (probably for the better). Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Hutch on May 10, 2006, 09:54:32 AM I put "f13.net" edit: Crap I've played or Beta'd nearly every MMO on that list. The form would only let me pick one (probably for the better). Hold down the Ctrl key to pick multiples. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Rasix on May 10, 2006, 09:56:37 AM "f13.net" will work, since our EVE corp is named "f13".
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Nija on May 10, 2006, 09:59:30 AM I didn't sign up as f13.net, but put me in the beta anyways! All dupes I find during beta get reported if I get my own account! Limited time offer!
More exclamation points!!! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on May 10, 2006, 10:00:55 AM edit: Crap I've played or Beta'd nearly every MMO on that list. That's closed beta they were asking about.Lineage 2 was the only game from the MMO "played" list I haven't played yet -- maybe I should check to see they have a free trial or something. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Der Helm on May 10, 2006, 10:08:16 AM Entered my info, sans dxdiag.
And why are "Helm" "Der Helm" and "Der_Helm" are already taken as forum accounts ??? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on May 10, 2006, 10:09:02 AM I am a n00b...I just put F13. Ya know, since that is WHAT THE GUILD'S NAME IS. :-D
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Murgos on May 10, 2006, 10:13:46 AM edit: Crap I've played or Beta'd nearly every MMO on that list. That's closed beta they were asking about.Lineage 2 was the only game from the MMO "played" list I haven't played yet -- maybe I should check to see they have a free trial or something. My closed beta'd list is larger than my played while 'active' list... Also, Calandryll it's "Silmarillion" not "Simarillion" Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on May 10, 2006, 10:29:38 AM edit: Crap I've played or Beta'd nearly every MMO on that list. That's closed beta they were asking about.Lineage 2 was the only game from the MMO "played" list I haven't played yet -- maybe I should check to see they have a free trial or something. My closed beta'd list is larger than my played while 'active' list... Also, Calandryll it's "Silmarillion" not "Simarillion" Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Rasix on May 10, 2006, 10:36:14 AM I am a n00b...I just put F13. Ya know, since that is WHAT THE GUILD'S NAME IS. :-D Yes, but we've also had Bat Country as a standard for a while also. I'm sure some of us still have that tag in some game. Best not to confuse people or confuse Cal. Go with "f13.net". Homogenize. And yah, I think I've almost played or beta tested every game they listed. Scary. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Sairon on May 10, 2006, 11:22:17 AM Quote The system cannot find the file specified. I get that error message on an otherwise blank page. Guess the page for europeans doesn't work that great yet. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: tazelbain on May 10, 2006, 12:10:43 PM You'd have to pay me to play game.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: stray on May 10, 2006, 12:37:35 PM Is "free" considered too risky now as well?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on May 10, 2006, 12:39:41 PM European signup worked for me earlier, but I was already a code m member, if that's what causing you trouble Sairon you could try the main codemasters site www.codemasters.co.uk
LOTRO offers amazing potential for comedy, tolkien geeks mixing with mmo players on voice chat, I can't wait. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Mesozoic on May 10, 2006, 12:42:40 PM I just want to sign the NDA so I can read all the comedy. Is that possible?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: shiznitz on May 10, 2006, 02:08:21 PM I have no interest in playing this game for free right now. My expectations are that low. There's only upside, I guess.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Morat20 on May 10, 2006, 02:23:31 PM I signed up. Should be interesting, if I get in.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Tale on May 10, 2006, 03:23:26 PM How many people are in our guild?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on May 10, 2006, 03:29:11 PM Some pics
Man fondles Ent (http://lorimages.turbine.com/admin_files/26/42/23/97/475.jpg) Appealing to the criminal element (http://lorimages.turbine.com/admin_files/20/44/77/14/478.jpg) No idea (http://lorimages.turbine.com/admin_files/85/46/63/03/474.jpg) A Female! (http://lorimages.turbine.com/admin_files/85/82/39/58/477.jpg) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: stray on May 10, 2006, 03:31:52 PM Armor and character models look better than ddo, I'll give it that.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Tale on May 10, 2006, 03:34:12 PM No idea (http://lorimages.turbine.com/admin_files/85/46/63/03/474.jpg) Speak friend and enter?Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Merusk on May 10, 2006, 03:38:38 PM How many people are in our guild? Well, I went with EvE for the game, and that's 50-100 people. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Broughden on May 10, 2006, 04:38:52 PM Are we going to try to go in together as "f13.net" or "F13.net" or "Bat Country" or something else? With all the deirsion of LOTRO on this forum you mean people are actually going to play? :-D Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Merusk on May 10, 2006, 04:45:19 PM Beta isn't play.
Besides, free > pay. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Broughden on May 10, 2006, 04:49:49 PM Beta isn't play. Besides, free > pay. True and it will give us more material for fodder. hee hee Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Margalis on May 11, 2006, 12:20:48 AM A Female! (http://lorimages.turbine.com/admin_files/85/82/39/58/477.jpg) Well if LOTRO fails at least they've got a head start on a Veronica Mars game. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Broughden on May 11, 2006, 12:47:11 AM [Interviewer]: So we hear you are shooting for a November release date. Is that to increase sales due to Christmas?
[Anderson]: Yes. [Interviewer]: But not having started Beta yet, what if that runs over? Or you need more time for finishing touches? [Anderson]: We release it anyway, bugs and all. Come on its Lord of the Rings!!!!1!1 [Interviewer]: ..... Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Sairon on May 11, 2006, 01:56:14 AM European signup worked for me earlier, but I was already a code m member, if that's what causing you trouble Sairon you could try the main codemasters site www.codemasters.co.uk LOTRO offers amazing potential for comedy, tolkien geeks mixing with mmo players on voice chat, I can't wait. Signed up from work, worked better. :-) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: VickeVire on May 11, 2006, 02:43:13 AM I did a European signup
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: 5150 on May 11, 2006, 04:34:49 AM Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Azazel on May 11, 2006, 06:49:33 AM I just signed up and while I was there read some of the forums. My word there are some deranged people there.
Best to not read them, I think. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: 5150 on May 11, 2006, 08:08:21 AM I just signed up and while I was there read some of the forums. My word there are some deranged people there. Best to not read them, I think. Perhaps this is more to your taste? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1752017962119496176&q=hobbits Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Oban on May 11, 2006, 09:34:44 AM I just signed up and while I was there read some of the forums. My word there are some deranged people there. Best to not read them, I think. Perhaps this is more to your taste? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1752017962119496176&q=hobbits Nerf Ranger-Bards. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Xanthippe on May 11, 2006, 10:04:16 AM I hope the naming conventions are loose. So that people can have the same names.
I want to see 100 Legolas running around, instead of Leggolas, Legolass, Legollas, Llegolas, .... Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Lt.Dan on May 11, 2006, 10:07:31 AM Perhaps this is more to your taste? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1752017962119496176&q=hobbits I wouldn't be surprised if that went to #1 in the UK Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: VickeVire on May 11, 2006, 12:52:41 PM What's this Legolas business? If you want to be a "known" character there is only one worth to play and "they" got 2 names...
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on May 11, 2006, 01:30:34 PM Download 7 megs of game play footage (http://download.turbine.com/lotro/video/LOTRO_E3_BROLL_WEB.wmv)
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Margalis on May 11, 2006, 01:59:25 PM So um...it's the MMO version of DDO?
Seriously. It looks like the exact same camera/control, same combat, same (awful tinny) sound effects. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: HaemishM on May 11, 2006, 02:46:52 PM Download 7 megs of game play footage (http://download.turbine.com/lotro/video/LOTRO_E3_BROLL_WEB.wmv) Those are the exact same sound effects as DDO (the combat sounds). The music in one part even sounds like the tavern music from DDO. And yes, the combat looked a bit like it too. At least the interface was better. Or smaller I should say. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Tale on May 11, 2006, 05:32:22 PM I haven't played DDO. I watched that LOTRO E3 movie and thought "this is a total WoW clone". I mean seriously, the interface, the low spec cartoony graphics, the gold ring above the quest mob's head, the animations, the red circle around the base of a combat target. WoW didn't invent any of those things, but LOTRO's versions are obviously designed to allow WoW players a seamless switch.
And that's a good move. Blizzard's lore is derivative drivel, so that's a terrific weakness to exploit: play WoW, except it's in fucking Middle Earth, not some cheesy pseudo-fantasy sitcom. It's also dangerous: to pull it off, Turbine will have to out-slick Blizzard's production values. And that's fucking hard. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: El Gallo on May 11, 2006, 05:44:32 PM Show some respect for the District of Columbia, Turbine!
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Toast on May 11, 2006, 09:15:05 PM There is a whole recruiting class of WoW players that are going to need MMOs pretty soon. Millions of players are experiencing this genre for the first time, and, for better or worse, it hooks players long term. When the content in WoW finally wears thin, people will be looking for the next fix, and a WoW clone will be very convenient. Smart move.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Murgos on May 12, 2006, 07:20:40 AM I liked the gameplay footage. It actually showed a game. I've certainly seen enough MMO's by now to appreciate when there is at least some resemblance to a game there. The devil is in the details of course and having the appearance of a game doesn't mean there actually is one.
It did look an awful lot like WoW, but I also just watched the Vanguard footage and that looked more like EQ 1 than LotR looks like WoW. I'll take WoW over EQ 1 any day. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Chenghiz on May 12, 2006, 10:18:55 AM I don't really have high hopes for the game, but seeing the footage, it looks like it could at least be fun. I like how the characters interacted with the fire, getting clothes caught on fire and such. Adds a nice touch of realism to it.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Soln on May 19, 2006, 07:58:23 AM I'll bite, since I missed DDO and went in without research.
I put in f13.net. BTW, thought we had more ppl in Bat Country on Steamfont in EQ2. Not active I expect. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on May 19, 2006, 08:41:10 AM Ages ago I removed people who had quit EQ2 from Bat Country because it was easier to do the guildy stuff with less people. Of course, if they decided to renew they'd be right back in, if they wanted. I recently cancelled but I'll come back eventually... I think. There didn't seem to be much left to Bat Country, actually. Feel free to remove me for the same reasons, though. If there are no more people left with that sort of permissions, I can resub and promote people (I had promoted a few before I left) and any other stuff you want. Sorry about that.
I guess I should say something about LOTRO so as not to totally derail... Yay! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Soln on June 13, 2006, 06:26:02 AM what happened to this? has anyone gotten an invite?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 13, 2006, 06:43:22 AM I don't know. I had pre-ordered it and EB pulled it and sent me Battle for Middle Earth instead. Dumbasses. When I called to sort it out, they could no longer find LOTRO in their database and no seemed to know why. It just poofed. Now they have the $49 regular box scheluled to ship in Novemeber and the $59 special ed. shipping in January '07. Nothing official, of course, just retailer guesstimates. Every so often you'll see a wee blurb on MMORPG.com but I get no email from anyone about it and even Cal doesn't talk about it. Maybe something has gone horribly wrong?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: HaemishM on June 13, 2006, 09:18:58 AM Maybe something has gone horribly wrong? You mean like alpha has started? I kid, I kid. :-D Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WindupAtheist on June 13, 2006, 10:37:02 AM You mean like they realized that despite having the LOTR license their game has about as much buzz/interest going for it as fucking Whamadoodles, so now they're sitting around paralyzed with fear, shitting in their pants, and bitterly lamenting all that "We want to compete with Blizzard!" talk they were spewing months ago?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on June 13, 2006, 12:09:56 PM We haven't sent any invites out. Nothing has gone wrong. :)
We're still updating the site twice or more a week with new content about the game and invites will go out some time in the summer as scheduled. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Morfiend on June 13, 2006, 12:27:53 PM I signed up used "f13.net" since thats what the big man told us to use. Also I put 200+ cause there is more than 200 of us on this site, and damnit, we love each other.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Soukyan on June 13, 2006, 01:41:48 PM We haven't sent any invites out. Nothing has gone wrong. :) We're still updating the site twice or more a week with new content about the game and invites will go out some time in the summer as scheduled. A clue! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Flood on June 13, 2006, 04:46:05 PM Signed up and got my registration auth'd as an "f13.net" guild member, yadda yadda.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Venkman on June 13, 2006, 08:31:09 PM Did anyone else have trouble with the word verification graphic? I swear I tried that thing 8 times before it recognized. I think I kept confusing the uppercase H for a W or vice versa.
Just wondering. And yea, anyone else do a select all on the Games Played? I'd think given the state of the genre that list should have an open text box next to it for the dozens of other titles out there, and perhaps a stipulation that "played" means for more than 10 hours total (which would immediately cut off Lineage 2 and FFXI from my list). Edit: Just realized this was like a month ago... behind the 8-ball again... Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Righ on June 13, 2006, 11:29:17 PM If you select more than 80% of the games as having been played, it should make a ding sound and let you select from a list of less popular games. By the time you hit level five, they should just ask for your credit card numbers and provide an address that you can send your car and house keys.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on June 15, 2006, 01:01:29 AM A Female! (http://lorimages.turbine.com/admin_files/85/82/39/58/477.jpg) Well if LOTRO fails at least they've got a head start on a Veronica Mars game. I'd play that. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Venkman on June 15, 2006, 05:39:01 AM If you select more than 80% of the games as having been played, it should make a ding sound and let you select from a list of less popular games. By the time you hit level five, they should just ask for your credit card numbers and provide an address that you can send your car and house keys. If you select more than 80% of the games, you probably should be immediately disqualified. :)They don't need experts in LoTRO. They need new blood with expectations of a completely different sort. Not saying I'd turn down an invite if it happened though ;) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on June 15, 2006, 06:11:45 AM Whenever I join a beta these days, I do the following. Check the little boxes next to Everquest and "Other" and write in The Realm.
That's funny to me. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 15, 2006, 06:13:22 AM I did beta test The Realm, even before they had monsters or anything. It was good fun! I love that game.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on June 15, 2006, 09:04:04 AM I try to make sure and include my several hours herding goats in Wish.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 26, 2006, 01:48:41 PM So... are we going to get in on this guild thingy Cal is promoting? Will enough people join Bat Country to make it worthwhile for them? I modified my beta application and we have WAY more than enough people on f13 to make a significant guild. Will the lurkers come out of the woodwolrk?
Here is the thingy they send to people who sign up and put their guild info in: Quote Thank you for being a part of The Lord of the Rings Online™: Shadows of Angmar™ community! This summer is going to be a very busy one for LOTRO, so we'd like to take a moment to share some of the things that we are working on with you. If you are part of a guild in another MMOG don’t forget to get other members of your online gaming guild to register – if someone in your guild gets into the Beta, it automatically increases your chance of getting in. The top 10 largest guilds will automatically receive up to 100 Beta invites and the remaining top 90 will get up to 20 invites! So even if your guild isn’t very large, it still benefits you and your guildmates to all sign up. The best way to encourage guildmates to sign up is to post the LOTRO Beta URL (http://lotro.turbine.com/betasignup) on your guild forum or email it to your guildmates directly. We'd also like to mention that we've published a new What is LOTRO? feature on our website. We've combed over all of our previous interviews, articles, and dev diaries to compile a definitive summary of what LOTRO is all about. If you're new to the community, you'll most likely find this information very useful. Development on the game is proceeding rapidly. Beta invites won't be far behind! Thanks again for being a part of the community, and we hope to see you in Middle-earth sometime soon! Sincerely, The LOTRO Community Team I encourage you to fill out yet another tedious beta sign up so we can all test a game together again... even though we'll never last more than a couple of months after it launches. If we buy it at all. Which I doubt. We're so fucking lame. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Threash on June 26, 2006, 09:08:16 PM Didnt everyone already put f13 as the guild name already in their apps? i thought we agreed to do that, at least i think we did. I don't really remember what i put down. Your avatar once again confuses and scares me.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Righ on June 26, 2006, 10:43:55 PM The second paragraph of my email went like this:
Quote We noticed in your Beta application that you are part of a large guild. Don't forget to get other members of your online gaming guild to register. If someone in your guild gets into the Beta Program, it automatically increases your chance of getting in! The top 10 largest guilds will automatically receive up to 100 Beta invites and the remaining top 90 will get up to 20 invites. The best way to encourage guildmates to sign up is to post the LOTRO Beta URL (http://lotro.turbine.com/betasignup) on your guild forum or email it to your guildmates directly. The rest were the same. It's probably because I said that f13.net was FUCKING HUGE. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Flood on June 26, 2006, 10:59:27 PM Got the same message. Dunno what to say I'm already signed up as an "f13.net" member. We covered all these bases didn't we?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: vex on June 27, 2006, 01:45:30 AM Can I play from the woodwork? I really hate to leave. I signed up originally with f13.net as well.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 27, 2006, 06:17:11 AM I'm just reminding you. Don't complain. I was reminded to remind because I got an email. I thought maybe it would drive the lurkers out from the shadowy corners.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arrrgh on June 27, 2006, 06:54:25 AM Great, yet again they screw over the small guilds. LOTR devs another bunch of large raid fanbois like the WoW devs?
http://blogs.parc.com/playon/archives/2005/07/guild_size.html (http://blogs.parc.com/playon/archives/2005/07/guild_size.html) Just ignore inconvenient facts like that average guild size being 14.5. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Yegolev on June 27, 2006, 07:37:50 AM You aren't going to discover the next Tigole Bitties by pandering to tiny guilds, now are you?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arrrgh on June 27, 2006, 09:40:47 AM You aren't going to discover the next Tigole Bitties by pandering to tiny guilds, now are you? If...."The largest observed guild had 257 members. The lower quartile is 2. The upper quartile is 16. The 90th percentile was 35. The 95th percentile was 54. The 99th percentile was 110." Would you rather have the few guilds over 100 or the thousands of smaller guilds? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on June 27, 2006, 10:49:31 AM I put F13, SINCE THAT IS THE NAME OF OUR EVE GUILD. If everyone gets in with F13.net and I get screwed, I shall be very cross. And probably say things about Cal's dubious lineage :evil:
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Fargull on June 27, 2006, 11:10:18 AM Got the message this am also.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on June 27, 2006, 12:58:25 PM What the hell are you all worried about?
Consider that an official statement. Jesus, have faith people. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Soln on June 27, 2006, 01:02:05 PM FWIW I am looking forward to this. And in a nice way.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Yegolev on June 27, 2006, 01:44:38 PM I put F13, SINCE THAT IS THE NAME OF OUR EVE GUILD. It's a corporation. Space and pirates, not forests and elves. I am waffling. If there is going to be a large turnout, I might as well throw my hat in. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on June 27, 2006, 02:11:12 PM I put F13, SINCE THAT IS THE NAME OF OUR EVE GUILD. It's a corporation. Space and pirates, not forests and elves. I am waffling. If there is going to be a large turnout, I might as well throw my hat in. Fair point. I feel slightly nauseous having referred to it as a guild now! :-D Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 27, 2006, 02:11:56 PM Mmm... waffles.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Righ on June 27, 2006, 04:57:46 PM Would you rather have the few guilds over 100 or the thousands of smaller guilds? Let me see, you're essentially asking the following: "Would somebody who has to do community relations for a living want to deal with a hundred points of contact for 10,000 testers, or 10,000 individuals, all clamouring for attention?" There's no need to answer, is there? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on June 27, 2006, 10:47:06 PM I put F13, SINCE THAT IS THE NAME OF OUR EVE GUILD. If everyone gets in with F13.net and I get screwed, I shall be very cross. And probably say things about Cal's dubious lineage :evil: You can change the guild affiliation in your beta application. Login to the forums, go to your profile -> beta application -> cilck the link above your Personal Information section.Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on June 27, 2006, 11:03:25 PM Just signed up.
Bat Country http://www.f13.net Greater than 200 - Why not? kekekeke. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on June 27, 2006, 11:08:08 PM Stop that, you are going to split everybody up.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Hoax on June 27, 2006, 11:09:21 PM I've been resisting but have you fools seriously forgotten how terrible this game is going to be?
Voice of Reason: Stay away! Stay very very far away! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on June 27, 2006, 11:32:24 PM Eh, I saw it at E3. Looked funner than DDO.
I said funner. Heh. Edit: And btw, I'm pretty sure f13.net, f13, and Bat Country will all work. I'm confident Turbine is smart enough to put 1 and 1 and 1 together and come up with 4. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: voblat on June 28, 2006, 01:45:35 AM I'm confident Turbine is smart enough to put 1 and 1 and 1 together and come up with 4. I hope you didnt just describe the crafting mechanism. Oh, and I think Im subscribed to the euro beta. Which is probably different to the rest of you. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on June 28, 2006, 01:58:38 AM eh, just click the link in this thread then and get a gmail account and fake an address. No one will notice and we won't tell.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 28, 2006, 06:08:00 AM Are you suggesting he break the rules? Shame on you.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Soln on June 28, 2006, 06:11:30 AM So. Who's going naked? Bets on nekked hobbit guilds?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 28, 2006, 06:12:27 AM I'm very excited about this game. I wonder what the dancing is like?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Tale on June 28, 2006, 06:46:12 AM From page 1:
Oh and, for the guild section of the signup process, if you all want to enter "f13.net" as the guild name that's perfectly fine. Just make sure you all enter it exactly the same. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 28, 2006, 07:24:07 AM I have f13.net down and (Bat Country) next to it.
Where are all the lurkers? We can SEE you, you know! (http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/lurk2.gif) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Yegolev on June 28, 2006, 08:20:35 AM Fair point. I feel slightly nauseous having referred to it as a guild now! :-D Reminds me of when some random recruiter shitcock showed up in the F13 channel and said "Hail!" Naturally, my instinctual response was "Sup, thou?" Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: MonkeyC on June 28, 2006, 09:29:12 AM Where are all the lurkers? We can SEE you, you know! Beta test an MMORPG from the makers of AC2 and DDO, based on a licence that has a snowball's chance in hell of working as an MMORPG?Staying as far away as humanly possible, I'd say. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: shiznitz on June 28, 2006, 09:41:30 AM I'm very excited about this game. I am not but I registered for the f13.net guild. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 28, 2006, 09:50:22 AM Where are all the lurkers? We can SEE you, you know! Beta test an MMORPG from the makers of AC2 and DDO, based on a licence that has a snowball's chance in hell of working as an MMORPG?Staying as far away as humanly possible, I'd say. You might be right, Moneky-Lurker (boo!), but I HAVE TO SEE ! I can't help it... whether it's a wonderful MMO or a train wreck, I'm too curious not to find out for myself. Le sigh. Curiosity is my curse. (along with impulse buying, staring at my neighbours, smoking pot, poking my husband in the middle of the night to see if he's really asleep, not minding the gap, and some other stuff that you probably don't want to know) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on June 28, 2006, 10:15:24 AM OK- updated to F13.net. Now you are stuck with me!
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Hoax on June 28, 2006, 10:20:57 AM Where are all the lurkers? We can SEE you, you know! Beta test an MMORPG from the makers of AC2 and DDO, based on a licence that has a snowball's chance in hell of working as an MMORPG?Staying as far away as humanly possible, I'd say. Two great first posts in the same day?! i R conf0zed. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Broughden on June 28, 2006, 01:59:11 PM Where are all the lurkers? We can SEE you, you know! Beta test an MMORPG from the makers of AC2 and DDO, based on a licence that has a snowball's chance in hell of working as an MMORPG?Staying as far away as humanly possible, I'd say. Best first post ever? Either way I like him. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Lantyssa on June 28, 2006, 06:24:58 PM [You might be right, Moneky-Lurker (boo!), but I HAVE TO SEE ! I can't help it... whether it's a wonderful MMO or a train wreck, I'm too curious not to find out for myself. Le sigh. Curiosity is my curse. (along with impulse buying, staring at my neighbours, smoking pot, poking my husband in the middle of the night to see if he's really asleep, not minding the gap, and some other stuff that you probably don't want to know) Not minding the gap could be quite painful. Kind of like trying to play the beta of this game... I'm mostly over my masochistic tendencies, but thanks for the offer.Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: sinij on June 28, 2006, 08:47:57 PM Do they have lvl5 balrog in a lvl 1 white mage spawn by the bridge?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on June 28, 2006, 08:58:08 PM OK- updated to F13.net. Now you are stuck with me! Is that upper case or lower case "f"?Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 28, 2006, 09:02:02 PM I always use lower case because I fear change. :cry:
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Lantyssa on June 28, 2006, 09:10:40 PM Boo!
(http://www.usmint.gov/kids/images/campcoin/coinCourse/p-bullion.jpg) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 28, 2006, 09:13:08 PM (http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/shocker.gif)
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on June 29, 2006, 09:33:01 AM OK- updated to F13.net. Now you are stuck with me! Is that upper case or lower case "f"?Don't make me slap you. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: angry.bob on June 29, 2006, 10:51:12 AM I have signed up as well. You are all doomed now.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 29, 2006, 10:53:12 AM I have signed up as well. You are all doomed now. I have seen you dozens of times when we played SWG, but you were always AFK. This will be an interesting change. Maybe. Just don't yell at me. Please. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Slayerik on June 29, 2006, 10:55:43 AM I signed up just for my favorite guy, Schildy.
If I get in i'll give someone the account after I try it out and decide I hate it. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: angry.bob on June 29, 2006, 12:01:37 PM I have seen you dozens of times when we played SWG, but you were always AFK. This will be an interesting change. Maybe. Just don't yell at me. Please. Yes. Macro mining equalled having an extra harvester. When I realized that the entirety of my gameplay was searching for the best quality copper I could find and then macro mining it while I watched TV I knew it was time to quit. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 29, 2006, 12:29:36 PM I signed up just for my favorite guy, Schildy. If I get in i'll give someone the account after I try it out and decide I hate it. That would be breaking the NDA and that's serial, dude. Super serial. I'll send you cupcakes in jail with tiny little files baked in each one! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Slayerik on June 29, 2006, 01:22:45 PM I signed up just for my favorite guy, Schildy. If I get in i'll give someone the account after I try it out and decide I hate it. That would be breaking the NDA and that's serial, dude. Super serial. I'll send you cupcakes in jail with tiny little files baked in each one! Awesome, my nails will be well kept then! ;) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: armorbuilder on June 29, 2006, 02:14:16 PM Hello, all,
I as a former long time lurker wish to join the guild. Sadly i'm betwwen games...on a WOW burn out right now. and as always cursing SOE for killing SWG Be gentle with me...:) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: tazelbain on June 29, 2006, 02:38:49 PM I am unwilling to wade through the crazy. I'd perfer to watch from a far.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Cheddar on June 29, 2006, 03:09:32 PM I may sign up. Or not. Depends on if I remember tomorrow. Someone remind me?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 29, 2006, 04:17:34 PM I will if I remember. I used to miss you but you're beginning to fade from my memory. :|
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Hoax on June 29, 2006, 05:29:43 PM Will there be beta blogs like there were for WoW? I thought the cow one was funny.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on June 29, 2006, 05:34:08 PM Odds are, if there's enough content (and if someone wants to blog it), we'll add a category for it. In fact, that's a fairly good idea. A game|blog tag that would feed into a Blog folder. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Cheddar on June 29, 2006, 05:35:18 PM If I am around for more than two weeks (in the game) I will help provide some coverage. I do not want a blue name though. I will get violent.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Surlyboi on June 29, 2006, 06:45:57 PM You mean, you're not violent normally?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on June 29, 2006, 07:16:54 PM Odds are, if there's enough content (and if someone wants to blog it), we'll add a category for it. In fact, that's a fairly good idea. A game|blog tag that would feed into a Blog folder. Hmmm. Blizzard dropped WoW's NDA very early on though so unless Turbine does a similar thing access to those blogs will have to be restricted.Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on June 29, 2006, 07:22:12 PM Oh. Lol @ obvious. I completely forgot about the whole NDA thing. Trippy 1, Schild 0.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Hoax on June 29, 2006, 08:39:10 PM I've seen that games where the NDA is maintained after the beta goes relatively public suck, its not 100% error-proof but close.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Righ on June 29, 2006, 08:46:54 PM As a member of this community, it is my duty to point out that all games suck, some just suck less than others. Therefore your hypothesis is entirely true.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on June 30, 2006, 07:14:11 AM I think the Auto Assault NDA should still be in effect. They might get more than 10k subscriptions then.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on June 30, 2006, 07:40:58 AM Hello, all, I as a former long time lurker wish to join the guild. Sadly i'm betwwen games...on a WOW burn out right now. and as always cursing SOE for killing SWG Be gentle with me...:) Of course you can join the guild... ESPECIALLY if you curse! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: FatuousTwat on July 05, 2006, 02:30:57 AM I just signed up, guild name f10.org, thats what I'm supposed to do right?
Also, sorry for being a mega lurker, I had a waterthread account like 3 years ago and have had one on f13 for a while... I think my total post-count is about 3. (when you hit spellcheck with a .org in the message, it tries to change it to orgy :evil: ) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on July 05, 2006, 02:40:27 AM "f10.org"? You've somehow managed to mangle over half the characters. I'm surprised you even made it to these forums.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: FatuousTwat on July 05, 2006, 03:37:16 AM I was trying to be witty, and failed horribly I guess... Unless you are trying to bamboozle me? That's it isn't it?! Oh you.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Xerapis on July 05, 2006, 03:52:09 AM See, to be witty, you have to move the orgy commment up closer to the f10.org.
And why 10? It has to be one of the least witty numbers out there. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on July 05, 2006, 03:56:22 AM What's wrong with 10? I think it's a very nice number. I entered f13.orgy on purpose.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: FatuousTwat on July 05, 2006, 04:06:04 AM 10 is great imo. It's 2x my favorite number in fact. But I suppose a nice 11 or 58 (or dare I say 69) would have been better.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on July 05, 2006, 04:08:23 AM Twat.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Xerapis on July 05, 2006, 04:08:56 AM Well, f69.orgy would be entirely too obvious, of course.
But I still don't like 10. Not sure why. But it doesn't feel right. Maybe 11. At least it's odd too. You see, Mr Fatuous War Against Terrorism? Learn from the Signe. You could have typed it in as f13.orgy and then gone back and edited the post to explain how the spell checker changes while leaving it as f13.orgy. That would have been cool too. Still...you lost me at 10. Feel free to keep trying, I'm here for about 13 more hours. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Xerapis on July 05, 2006, 04:11:57 AM Oh, and in the future?
Never post while I am still typing up my advice. Ever. This is your only warning. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on July 05, 2006, 04:27:49 AM I lol'ed at f10.org.
But I hate the word "lol'ed." Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Xerapis on July 05, 2006, 04:31:28 AM That's cause it should be l'edol.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: sigil on July 05, 2006, 05:16:03 AM I added myself to the fray. I haven't touched a turbine game since Asheron's Call, so I'll be surprised with turbine if I see that my character has opposable thumbs.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Xerapis on July 05, 2006, 05:19:00 AM Welcome to the fray!
Did you spell our name correctly? Or at least spell it Signely, which is far more humorous? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on July 13, 2006, 06:07:50 AM I'm in.
That's about all I'm allowed to say at this point. :nda: Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on July 13, 2006, 07:11:01 AM In what?
(and is my name so horrible that we have to make fun of it in numerous threads? IT'S MY NAME!) DAMMIT. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: edlavallee on July 13, 2006, 07:20:15 AM In what? (and is my name so horrible that we have to make fun of it in numerous threads? IT'S MY NAME!) DAMMIT. I have been dying to ask this.... how do you pronounce that anyway? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on July 13, 2006, 07:34:32 AM Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Merusk on July 13, 2006, 07:52:27 AM I'm in. That's about all I'm allowed to say at this point. :nda: Ooh they started going out.. How did you list the guild name? I went back and made it match most of the folks here, but I dunno if it was in time. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on July 13, 2006, 08:02:21 AM I'm in. That's about all I'm allowed to say at this point. :nda: Ooh they started going out.. How did you list the guild name? I went back and made it match most of the folks here, but I dunno if it was in time. Err.. perhaps i should have prefaced that by mentioning I haven't read this thread, just the title. no idea what you're talking about re. guild names. I meant "I'm in" the beta. Didn't think that would cause so much confusion! :-o Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Hoax on July 13, 2006, 08:03:07 AM I've decided that there really needs to be a smiley of a panda asleep on the toilet, so I can use it any time I need to refer to LTRO. Of course I'm not sure that would really count as a smiley any more but whatever.
Signe, can you help me out with that? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Merusk on July 13, 2006, 08:06:39 AM I'm in. That's about all I'm allowed to say at this point. :nda: Ooh they started going out.. How did you list the guild name? I went back and made it match most of the folks here, but I dunno if it was in time. Err.. perhaps i should have prefaced that by mentioning I haven't read this thread, just the title. no idea what you're talking about re. guild names. I meant "I'm in" the beta. Didn't think that would cause so much confusion! :-o No, I followed that you were in the Beta. I asked about guild names because the app had a slot asking what guilds, if any, you were affiliated with and several of us listed F13.net Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on July 13, 2006, 08:07:51 AM Oh... gee... didn't even see that part. Well if you see me in game just holler.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Broughden on July 23, 2006, 02:04:44 PM Oh... gee... didn't even see that part. Well if you see me in game just holler. Is Kenrick the only one who got in? Damnit I want front row seats to the train wreck too! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on July 24, 2006, 06:16:28 PM I've decided that there really needs to be a smiley of a panda asleep on the toilet, so I can use it any time I need to refer to LTRO. Of course I'm not sure that would really count as a smiley any more but whatever. Signe, can you help me out with that? Sorry. I'm hardly around lately. If I get 10 minutes or so a day on the computer, I'm lucky. I've decided to try and get this new house in shape and it's taking all my time up. Then I had a birthday to sleep through. Oh, and I died for a short time but I'm better now. Anyway, I know this isn't what you asked for but it's the best I can do right now. How to make a Panda toilet roll holder: Materials: bullet toilet paper roll bullet a printer bullet something to colour with bullet scissors bullet glue bullet and paper (I prefer construction paper). Instructions: bullet Print out the template. bullet Colour (where appropriate) and cut out the template pieces. bullet Glue the large rectangular piece on first to cover the tube. Toilet paper rolls come in different sizes, so if you find the rectangle is a bit too big, just trim it down. If you find it's a bit too small, just cut out another small piece to fill in the gap. bullet Glue the smaller rectangular piece the same way (towards the top of the panda bear)... take a look at a picture of a panda to give you an idea of where he's white and where he's black bullet Glue on the head, arms, and legs. (http://www.dltk-kids.com/animals/image/bpanda.gif) Now just fall asleep on the crapper and it'll be kind of sort of almost like a panda sleeping on the toilet smiley face. Mostly. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on July 25, 2006, 05:29:53 AM Looks like LOTRO is coming on well, it sounds virtually identical to the books. :roll:
Linky (http://www.thelordoftheringsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=133152#post133152) Quote from: Mithril_Miser Re: Champions useless in a group?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We just did a playthrough of one of our instances, and the champion was pretty key. He's not just about damage, he's specifically about AoE damage. When an Uruk sends a bunch of his pesky goblin buddies in at the party, it's the Champion who gets to go to town. When things have gone pear-shaped and there's baddies everywhere, the Champion can gather their attention in a hurry. And when the loremaster carefully distracts and confuses key enemies during a big fight, the Champion is there to break each and every mez - after all, what fun is fighting foes one at a time? :-) At one point in the playtest, the guy playing the champion said something along the lines of "You know, this would be easier if we were mezzing." I swear, there was almost a brawl. Heh. __________________ Nik Davidson Lead Game Systems Designer Turbine, Inc. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on July 25, 2006, 06:23:05 AM Oh... gee... didn't even see that part. Well if you see me in game just holler. Is Kenrick the only one who got in? Damnit I want front row seats to the train wreck too! It actually isn't/wasn't beta yet, it was a closed Alpha 1. Very limited participation so far -- I think it's just employees and people lucky enough to get VIP access codes from employees. So the traditional "beta" is probably still a ways off. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on July 25, 2006, 09:37:14 AM Quote At one point in the playtest, the guy playing the champion said something along the lines of "You know, this would be easier if we were mezzing." I think I played with that douche in every other pick up group I had in EQ. Chanter rage! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: HaemishM on July 25, 2006, 09:42:11 AM Quote At one point in the playtest, the guy playing the champion said something along the lines of "You know, this would be easier if we were mezzing." I think I played with that douche in every other pick up group I had in EQ. Chanter rage! I am saddened to hear the word "Mez" in any discussion of LOTR combat. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: shiznitz on July 25, 2006, 10:05:09 AM Crowd control should never again appear in an MMOG. While I have quibbles with EQ2 encounter system, I do like the fact that mezz is never needed against the appropriate encounter levels for your group. Mezz is just "nice to have" in case something goes to shit but it is usually a waste of time to mezz a multiple mob encounter in EQ2.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on July 25, 2006, 11:11:56 AM I thought crowd control was about the only interesting mechanic in EQ combat. I may be prejudiced, however.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: HaemishM on July 25, 2006, 11:23:14 AM I thought crowd control was about the only interesting mechanic in EQ combat. I may be prejudiced, however. And thus my problem with it. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Morfiend on July 25, 2006, 12:41:19 PM Im fully behind CoX combat. With huge groups of monsters. Tank and spank is so boring. So is massive CC combat. Tank and spank is ok for huge boss fights, but I wish more people would focus combat on AE and large groups. It feels so much more epic.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: NiX on July 25, 2006, 03:47:14 PM Does this (http://lorimages.turbine.com/files/44/90/11/93/323.jpg) remind anyone else of DAoC?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Soln on July 25, 2006, 05:24:22 PM Does this (http://lorimages.turbine.com/files/44/90/11/93/323.jpg) remind anyone else of DAoC? the old AOE Stun/Mez/DOT was awful -- that killed DAoC for me. That and Hibbie turrets Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Hoax on July 25, 2006, 05:51:20 PM LoL, who is making this pile again? Turbine? :thumbs_up:
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Soukyan on July 25, 2006, 06:43:09 PM Does this (http://lorimages.turbine.com/files/44/90/11/93/323.jpg) remind anyone else of DAoC? Yes and no. It certainly looks like Hibernia at a glance, but the water effects are distinctly AC2, as is the plethora of long wavy grass on the terrain nearby. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: vex on July 25, 2006, 07:07:28 PM Does this (http://lorimages.turbine.com/files/44/90/11/93/323.jpg) remind anyone else of DAoC? The scene itself reminds me a lot of Prydwyn Bridge Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: NiX on July 25, 2006, 09:36:13 PM Does this (http://lorimages.turbine.com/files/44/90/11/93/323.jpg) remind anyone else of DAoC? The scene itself reminds me a lot of Prydwyn Bridge That's exactly what it reminded me of. Also, it reminded me of the horrid ride up to the marsh. Fuck you, DAoC. Fuck you LOTRO for reminding me. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on July 26, 2006, 10:52:51 AM Turbine started out designing MMOs with absolutely no crowd control.
As best I've seen, DDO doesn't really have "hard" crowd control (mezzes, roots, and stuns, as opposed to just hits that draw aggro) to speak of either. They had a good streak there of not adding crowd control and making interesting combat systems as a result. A blissful change from all the stupid stuff other MMO companies are doing. And now, what do they do? They take LoTR, a setting which by nature is not crowd-control oriented, and shove it in. Sigh. Crowd control means predictability, and with predictability it's impossible to make combat truly interesting. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Miasma on July 26, 2006, 01:29:02 PM Aside from raid encounters the only memorable battles I have been in come from EQ, and they usually involved a crowd control guy. It could be quite intense worrying about wether or not his mezz would land and when it would wear off. Playing a secondary healer in charge of keeping him alive when mezz broke and his HP bar instantly went to 7% was also interesting. Not to mention if he had charmed a pet into the party - knowing that one of your own group is going to snap at some point and start attacking you always kept you on your toes. I don't think I remember a single PvE battle in most of the other MMOs I have played.
Not that I want crowd control either, it makes forming groups so much harder. Usually all you need is a healer and a tank and even just getting those two can be tough in pick up groups. If crowd control is essential you need to find the holy trinity of tank/healer/chanter before even getting started. It is a pain in the ass. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Xilren's Twin on July 26, 2006, 02:32:22 PM As best I've seen, DDO doesn't really have "hard" crowd control (mezzes, roots, and stuns, as opposed to just hits that draw aggro) to speak of either. Crowd control means predictability, and with predictability it's impossible to make combat truly interesting. No hard crowd control in DDO? You do know what the single most overused spell in DDO is right? Web. Plus the Holds, Charms, Sleeps, Cloud spells and assorted other CC tools like the Initimidate and Negotiation skills, DDO has actually quite a lot of CC, its just harder to use well b/c of the general pace of combat. D&D in general has lots of CC as well, but usually it's mitigated by the fact that a human is controlling the opposition and can react intelligently when called for. It surprises me not at all the LOTRO will have CC. It's become a staple of diku style MMO combat Xilren Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Miasma on July 26, 2006, 02:54:45 PM As best I've seen, DDO doesn't really have "hard" crowd control (mezzes, roots, and stuns, as opposed to just hits that draw aggro) to speak of either. Crowd control means predictability, and with predictability it's impossible to make combat truly interesting. No hard crowd control in DDO? You do know what the single most overused spell in DDO is right? Web. Plus the Holds, Charms, Sleeps, Cloud spells and assorted other CC tools like the Initimidate and Negotiation skills, DDO has actually quite a lot of CC, its just harder to use well b/c of the general pace of combat. D&D in general has lots of CC as well, but usually it's mitigated by the fact that a human is controlling the opposition and can react intelligently when called for. It surprises me not at all the LOTRO will have CC. It's become a staple of diku style MMO combat Xilren Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on July 26, 2006, 04:11:40 PM I'm sure LOTRO will be a perfectly lovely game.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: NiX on July 26, 2006, 09:25:56 PM You only say that cause you have a thing for hobbit sex.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on July 26, 2006, 09:50:57 PM I'm guessing Tele is still talking about DDO without bothering to subscribe/play it. Hey, I played it up until level 4. :p I stand corrected on the crowd control - I just didn't see any of it when I played, maybe because they were usually pickup groups with few spellcasters. I'll play it again when AC1 runs out of content for me, which should hit sometime in 2008. Quote from: Xilren's Twin It surprises me not at all the LOTRO will have CC. It's become a staple of diku style MMO combat Xilren That's just the thing - Turbine's strength has always been in doing the things that aren't the staple of other MMOs. When they try to imitate the more generic MMOs, it always comes out awful. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Yegolev on August 02, 2006, 06:23:40 AM That's just the thing - Turbine's strength has always been in doing the things that aren't the staple of other MMOs. Like succeeding. When's this thing going to open up? I want to roll up a valewalker. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: jpark on August 02, 2006, 08:55:38 PM I want to cause outrage by signing up for this thing when it goes live - claiming every spelling variant of "Legollas" on every server - and then cancel my subscription :evil:
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on August 03, 2006, 08:30:01 AM LOTRO Alpha begins today (http://tinyurl.com/mk5ff)
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on August 03, 2006, 10:12:34 AM How come Cal doesn't come around and announce things any more? It's you lot, it is! You've chased him off with your hobbit bashing and elf dissing! Bah to you!
Come back, Cal. I'll protect you from the hobbit hating hordes! Also... there seems to be some contests for beta slots around. I saw one at MMORPG.com earlier. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on August 03, 2006, 10:59:05 AM How come Cal doesn't come around and announce things any more? It's you lot, it is! You've chased him off with your hobbit bashing and elf dissing! Bah to you! It's because Arthur is too fast! Plus I was out of the country until recently so I am kinda still catching up. Anyway, um, LOTRO is officially in Alpha!! :)Come back, Cal. I'll protect you from the hobbit hating hordes! Also... there seems to be some contests for beta slots around. I saw one at MMORPG.com earlier. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on August 03, 2006, 11:35:49 AM I have heard that Arthur is not only fast, but loose.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Venkman on August 03, 2006, 11:40:37 AM I am sure you all knew about this already, but it was news to me that =article&pagebuilder[display_item]=130]traditional raiding was coming to LoTRO (http://lotro.turbine.com/index.php?page_id=20&pagebuilder[module).
All the staples really. Haven't seen anything in there that isn't like Raiding in the traditional sense. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Righ on August 03, 2006, 12:44:54 PM Let me see if I can fix that link.
Traditional raiding is coming to LOTRO. (http://lotro.turbine.com/index.php?page_id=20&pagebuilder%5bmodule%5d=article&pagebuilder%5bdisplay_item%5d=130) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: tazelbain on August 03, 2006, 12:53:14 PM Didn't we see this coming? They already said they are taking WoW head on.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: shiznitz on August 03, 2006, 01:05:38 PM So will Sauron be on a timer? If you have a female character, can you solo the Witch King raid?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on August 03, 2006, 01:36:25 PM I have heard that Arthur is not only fast, but loose. Sadly, I don't think it's possible to be loose when growing up in Armagh in the 70's. It's just been confirmed that LOTRO will have monster play (most likely for pvp) in addition to raiding. Exact details of monster play are unknown but I'd guess it's a cheap Evil faction without all the effort of starter areas, zones, quests, character development and itemisation. *Prediction ahead* one of the top 5 complaints at the release of LOTRO will be lack of character advancement features when playing a monster. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: tazelbain on August 03, 2006, 01:42:15 PM Finally, a reason to care about this game.
EDIT: does this put LOTRO on a simular time-table as WAR? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on August 03, 2006, 01:46:51 PM LOTRO is meant to be released this year but I suspect it's going to be delayed a few months.
Edit to add. WAR is meant to be released late next year, but I have no idea how the EA takeover next year will affect that. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Signe on August 03, 2006, 02:09:53 PM I hope something interesting comes out this year. I SO BORED.
PS You Irish are always trying to pretend you're so virginal. You think God doesn't see what goes on behind that observatory! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: edlavallee on August 03, 2006, 05:25:30 PM It was Col. Mustard in the Observatory with the candlestick.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Velorath on August 03, 2006, 11:15:35 PM I hope something interesting comes out this year. I SO BORED. Only MMO I've been looking forward to is Age of Conan and it looks like we won't be seeing it until March '07 at the earliest (http://funcom.com/wsp/funcom/frontend.cgi?session=48b0abfbe99cea4817894c09b65ac1&func=publish.show&func_id=1141&table=CONTENT&item=1004). Oh, and Pirates of the Burning Sea, which will apparently have it's release date announced at PAX near the end of the month (http://www.burningsea.com/). Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on August 04, 2006, 03:12:19 AM New LOTRO gameplay video (http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/lordringsonline/lotro_gameplay_b-roll_8.06.wmv.html)
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on August 04, 2006, 05:14:28 AM That looked really bad.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Venkman on August 04, 2006, 05:53:57 AM For me it's AoC, TR and PotBS, for, of course, different reasons :)
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Miasma on August 04, 2006, 07:17:34 AM New LOTRO gameplay video (http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/lordringsonline/lotro_gameplay_b-roll_8.06.wmv.html) That was some of the slowest and most boring combat I have seen in a long, long time. It is rather scary to think that someone probably scanned hours worth of footage to find the most exciting bits and could only scrape that up.I did like the backgrounds and environments a lot though. At least I will be able to look at pretty trees and buildings while I wait for auto attack to fire every five seconds. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on August 04, 2006, 10:51:48 AM That was some of the slowest and most boring combat I have seen in a long, long time. It is rather scary to think that someone probably scanned hours worth of footage to find the most exciting bits and could only scrape that up. Perhaps the best saving grace I can offer is that given that this is Turbine, that probably wasn't the most exciting bits culled from hours of footage. Turbine, much as I love them, are a bit notorious for a laissez-faire attitude toward the promo material they put out; Asheron's Call releases monthly teaser screenshots of their content updates before they come out, and many times the screenshots aren't even taken using the highest graphics settings. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Rasix on August 04, 2006, 11:43:13 AM That was some of the slowest and most boring combat I have seen in a long, long time. It is rather scary to think that someone probably scanned hours worth of footage to find the most exciting bits and could only scrape that up. Perhaps the best saving grace I can offer is that given that this is Turbine, that probably wasn't the most exciting bits culled from hours of footage. Turbine, much as I love them, are a bit notorious for a laissez-faire attitude toward the promo material they put out; Asheron's Call releases monthly teaser screenshots of their content updates before they come out, and many times the screenshots aren't even taken using the highest graphics settings. That's probably not a good thing for a company that wants people to buy and subscribe to its games. Also, just a quibble, but AC monthly releases are targetted toward existing customers. They should probably drop that sort of approach for people that aren't already forking over their 15 a month. People like the shiney. They like to be blown away by the promo material they watch. Really, I'm available for consulting Turbine.. I come cheap and am full of wonderful ideas. For example, did you know that a working chat server is a crucial part of your game? I just watched the video. It was a shiney, stiff-looking WoW on tranquilizers. The character models kind of had that EQ2 "carrot-in-the-butt" syndrome. Somewhat pretty but about as exciting as watching Progress Quest. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Miasma on August 04, 2006, 11:48:46 AM You know I just realized that the title of that file has "B-roll" in it, maybe there is a much better "A-roll" somewhere?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on August 04, 2006, 12:01:04 PM You know I just realized that the title of that file has "B-roll" in it, maybe there is a much better "A-roll" somewhere? B-roll in this context is the term used to describe film/video given to news organizations in hopes of getting some publicity.Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: shiznitz on August 04, 2006, 12:29:50 PM Perhaps the best saving grace I can offer is that given that this is Turbine, that probably wasn't the most exciting bits culled from hours of footage. Turbine, much as I love them, are a bit notorious for a laissez-faire attitude toward the promo material they put out; Asheron's Call releases monthly teaser screenshots of their content updates before they come out, and many times the screenshots aren't even taken using the highest graphics settings. I don't want to see the most exciting parts anyway. I want to see what I will be doing during my 2-3 hour evening play sessions. That said, I am not waiting 17 minutes for the download to start so I will have to rely on everyone's comments. Turbine is going to have to do a lot to get me ecited about this title, though, and it has ZERO buzz among my MMORPG guildmates who are 50% rabid LotR fans. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on August 04, 2006, 12:35:01 PM Sigh. That video is old footage. It's out of date (taken from pre alpha build from months ago) and was never meant for public use. It's b-roll. Basically we record a bunch of video and then use clips when creating a release video.
Time to do some investigating. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Arthur_Parker on August 04, 2006, 01:51:57 PM The website dated the video as from yesterday, if I knew it was old footage I would have said so.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on August 04, 2006, 01:58:58 PM Cal, do you know if we're going to have to re-register on the official forums for Alpha 2? Won't recognize my Alpha 1 login info anymore. :oops:
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on August 04, 2006, 01:59:39 PM The website dated the video as from yesterday, if I knew it was old footage I would have said so. Not your fault at all. And yes, the video is dated today. But I can assure you it was recorded months ago.Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Rasix on August 04, 2006, 02:01:26 PM Cal, do you know if we're going to have to re-register on the official forums for Alpha 2? Won't recognize my Alpha 1 login info anymore. :oops: By acknowledging that you're in alpha, you have violated your NDA. You have been removed. :evil: Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Calandryll on August 04, 2006, 02:01:53 PM Cal, do you know if we're going to have to re-register on the official forums for Alpha 2? Won't recognize my Alpha 1 login info anymore. :oops: :nda:Check your PMs. :) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on August 04, 2006, 02:05:22 PM Cal, do you know if we're going to have to re-register on the official forums for Alpha 2? Won't recognize my Alpha 1 login info anymore. :oops: By acknowledging that you're in alpha, you have violated your NDA. You have been removed. :evil: (http://jeweledplatypus.org/pixels/other/nowai.jpg) Hey, what's an alpha anyway? What are you guys talking about? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Rasix on August 04, 2006, 02:10:48 PM Hey, what's an alpha anyway? What are you guys talking about? (http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/a/alfaflit.jpg) Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on August 04, 2006, 02:12:12 PM (http://www.painstick.com/Graphics/Cereal/Classic/alpha%20bits.gif)
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: JoeTF on August 04, 2006, 05:22:03 PM Cal, do you know if we're going to have to re-register on the official forums for Alpha 2? Won't recognize my Alpha 1 login info anymore. :oops: By acknowledging that you're in alpha, you have violated your NDA. You have been removed. :evil: Yay! One more slot for the rest of us. :evil: BTW, how well did we go as a ekhm, "guild"? Have we CRUSHED and DOMINATED? :D Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on August 04, 2006, 06:02:02 PM Stickied Thread of Minor Importance (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=7822.0)
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Righ on August 04, 2006, 08:57:44 PM Finally watched the vids.
That was some of the slowest and most boring combat I have seen in a long, long time. Looked like that was deliberate. That's about as fast as somebody would swing a heavy melee weapon, though I understand that video game junkies hopped up on caffeine will find that tedious. Perhaps they could put a minigame in where you have to click the mouse thirty or forty times between each swing to keep you occupied. I found the camera more annoying, but the character movement, and the graphics were visually appealing. Which is good. I never even tried the brown sludgefest that was DDO. Okay, I fiddled with it for a minute. Maybe 90 seconds tops. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Kenrick on August 04, 2006, 09:18:38 PM Stickied Thread of Minor Importance (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=7822.0) It's a trap! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Lantyssa on August 04, 2006, 09:40:14 PM Northstar looks really upset he isn't the one hanging off Vindicator.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on August 07, 2006, 10:16:02 AM Quote Looked like that was deliberate. That's about as fast as somebody would swing a heavy melee weapon, though I understand that video game junkies hopped up on caffeine will find that tedious. Perhaps they could put a minigame in where you have to click the mouse thirty or forty times between each swing to keep you occupied. :-D :-D :-D :-D Well played, sir. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Der Helm on August 14, 2006, 01:14:50 AM Stickied Thread of Minor Importance (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=7822.0) It's a trap! Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Lord Beta on August 20, 2006, 10:46:10 PM For those of you that have sent me PMs, I will be making a list - in the order the names were received and submitting them. For those of you that responded that told me you are in the beta - if something magical and exciting (that's a bit of a stretch....) hasn't happened, send me another PM.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: squirrel on August 21, 2006, 07:03:10 PM Edited by schild. Send that to my PM box.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Trippy on August 21, 2006, 07:11:38 PM Well it used to be right at the top of the email.
Quote Creating your Account Where "LOTRO Beta Account" is the link to the sign up page.To create your Alpha 2 account, please go to the LOTRO Beta Account page and follow the onscreen signup prompts. When you are prompted to enter your product key, please enter the Alpha 2 product key below: If schild isn't able to help me let me know and I'll send you the link. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: squirrel on August 21, 2006, 07:26:05 PM Well it used to be right at the top of the email. Quote Creating your Account Where "LOTRO Beta Account" is the link to the sign up page.To create your Alpha 2 account, please go to the LOTRO Beta Account page and follow the onscreen signup prompts. When you are prompted to enter your product key, please enter the Alpha 2 product key below: If schild isn't able to help me let me know and I'll send you the link. Thanks - resolved :D Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Soln on August 22, 2006, 05:06:11 PM signed up first day, still nothing. Exact same thing happened with DDO Beta.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Nija on August 23, 2006, 10:18:25 AM Turbine will never, ever learn.
I know at least two red name dudes read this board, SO TAKE THIS NEXT LINE TO HEART. Never let anyone, ANYONE, play your game until you have 2 hours of solid, functional gameplay. I don't care if you call it Pre-Alpha Phase Negative 6. First impressions really are everything. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: LC on August 25, 2006, 07:44:30 AM LOTRO will be another turd from the ass of turbine. Did you guys learn nothing from AC2?
Lord of the Rings Online Features: Crappy Art Lack of Content An exciting leveling grind that will have you clawing out your eyes. Promises of an uninteresting crippled pvp system. No housing. Instancing (Why even bother making a mmo?) I didn't sign up as f13.net, but put me in the beta anyways! All dupes I find during beta get reported if I get my own account! Limited time offer! More exclamation points!!! "I'll suck your dick if you let me be in the beta hehehe" What has happened to you? Bring back the old Nija. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on August 25, 2006, 07:45:53 AM I'd say you're breaking the NDA, but I'm pretty sure you're just being a dick.
Less of that, thx. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Chenghiz on August 25, 2006, 10:23:13 AM Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Nija on August 25, 2006, 10:58:12 AM He's just mad because I left IRC.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Cheddar on August 25, 2006, 04:52:42 PM So did all the people from F13 who got invited to the Beta already receive notice? Can I give up hope now?
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on August 25, 2006, 05:48:04 PM It's been 3 weeks. It's still in alpha.
Patience, jackass. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: LC on August 25, 2006, 07:30:30 PM He's just mad because I left IRC. Your "immy" is totally unrelated to my opinion of LOTRO. It's only a matter of time before (almost) everyone agrees with me. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on August 25, 2006, 11:00:38 PM If LOTRO can pull off "DDO-esque gameplay in an actual world", I'll bite.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: stray on August 26, 2006, 01:29:50 AM If LOTRO can pull off "DDO-esque gameplay in an actual world", I'll bite. Maybe I would too. IF said "DDO esque gameplay" has a control scheme and/or decent interface to interact with it. A world would have made DDO more interesting, but a world still isn't that interesting if all you can do is trudge along in it like a cripple. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on August 26, 2006, 01:41:14 AM DDO's control scheme always struck me as middling. Maybe it's because I played a rogue, but I never had a problem with it. For some reason, though, the game made me feel compelled to roll everywhere.
I don't understand why Turbine, of all companies, should have trouble creating fluid avatar control. AC1 is still the gold standard in that department - anyone who played AC as their first MMO usually has a really hard time finding the control other games give you over your avatar to be acceptable. Charge-up jumping and giving everyone an uber runspeed should be commonplace in MMOs - if Turbine hasn't figured out by now how to rip off the best parts of their own previous work, perhaps they deserve a drubbing in the market. :/ Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: synthetic on August 29, 2006, 11:31:25 AM pvp info is starting to come out of pax. looks like everyone gets a prerolled monster with a chance to get a better prerolled monster by completeing quests.
:heartbreak: Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: stray on August 29, 2006, 11:36:23 AM Translation:
http://lotro.turbine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7797 Quote Originally Posted by Linnuial In a nutshell, this is the impression I got from what Nik said: At the character selection screen, you can select "Monster Play". This lets you play as a monster, such as a goblin. This is not a persistent character--it is a pre-made goblin, already set up with equipment, skills, hotkeys, etc. As a goblin, you will have monster quests. Some will involve killing good NPC's. Some will involve patrolling special PvP zones and killing players. Either way, player-controlled monsters will be restricted to certain areas. By completing your quests and/or killing good guys, you get points--let's call them "Monster Points" (MP's). MP's can be used to buy long-lasting (but non-permanent) buffs for your good-folk character, or they can be used to buy a Monster Play session that will let you play something more powerful, like an Uruk-hai or troll. You are only paying for a single such session though--in order to continue playing as a bigger, badder monster, you will have to earn more MP's. Of course, the quests for bigger monsters will also yield MP's (perhaps enough to keep playing that monster). I asked Nik if all playable monsters will be humanoid in shape, or whether there will be more exotic monsters (after all, we can play orcs and trolls in WoW ). He said there are definitely more exotic choices, but he would not go into detail (he's so miserly!). This, of course, is all from my hazy memory of listening to Nik in a very crowded and loud exhibition hall, so believe at your own risk! One other thing: I believe I recall that Nik confirmed that there will be group monster missions. So you and your friends could form a merry band of spiderlings if you were so inclined. :heartbreak: Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: stray on August 29, 2006, 11:56:33 AM Btw, that's someone else's heart breaking. Not mine.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: edlavallee on August 29, 2006, 12:21:06 PM Ok, now that could be really cool.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: synthetic on August 29, 2006, 12:47:59 PM Thx for fetching that quote Stray. I have to see how it plays but trading in monsters and playing carbon copies of them feels boring out of the box.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: edlavallee on August 29, 2006, 01:49:54 PM I can agree that not being able to buff them a little with items/armor is a bit weak, but one of my biggest gripe is the repetitive and predictable AI in mobs. Can you imagine if you came up to a goblin camp and started your pulling only to notice that one of them didn't act in the typical predictable way? hung back and healed, or refused to be kited? Or how about 2 of them? Do you think it could turn the tide of the skirmish enough so that you (as a PC) always have that little thought in the back of your mind that some of the mobs in the game are not preprogrammed? Could it raise the danger quotient a little?
Not that I would want to spend full time playing a mob, but it could be entertaining... Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: WayAbvPar on August 29, 2006, 02:12:35 PM It would be more fun if I could spawn as a low to mid level mob and then go rampaging anywhere. Surprising some n00bs and then getting chased all over hell's half acre by some higher level characters would make for some fun game play :evil:
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: stray on August 29, 2006, 02:21:37 PM Like I said, my heart isn't broken. I have very little interest in this game to begin with.
But....I Don't mind the idea. Except the NPC quests. What's that all about? Who wants to play PvE quests with a non-persistant, non-upgradeable, virtually meaningless character, in secluded pvp zones? Just make playable monsters the option for people who want a modest PvP diversion from the main game, and be done with it. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: synthetic on August 29, 2006, 02:31:32 PM Who wants to play PvE quests with a non-persistant, non-upgradeable, virtually meaningless character, in secluded pvp zones? Agreed and the same could be asked of PvP under those circumstances. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Tmon on August 29, 2006, 03:39:07 PM ...Just make playable monsters the option for people who want a modest PvP diversion from the main game, and be done with it. Because all fun must be earned by grinding or it isn't satisfying. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: tazelbain on August 29, 2006, 04:15:29 PM This sounds good to me. I just don't give a crap about playing xp bag puncher and item scavenger hunter. Just warp me to the actual game.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on August 29, 2006, 04:29:30 PM Assuming the quests are actually good enough to be something you'd have fun playing even if it weren't in an MMO, like in DDO, this could be an incredible 'limited PvP' setup. Not sure I'd prefer it to a 100% PvP-on world, but it sure beats battlegrounds/duelling/arenas.
Say what you will about Turbine, but they always come up with something really new out of left field. Edit: I know that some people want 'advancement' to be a primary facet of their MMO, but haven't the "Kill 5,000 mobs in order to start playing the game" crowd gotten enough MMOs "their way" already? Advancement can be accomplished in a variety of ways, and taking the view that "if you're not upgrading your armor and stats by killing a bunch of shit in a row, it's not really advancement" is sort of narrow. EVE and until recently AC1 offered up advancement based on the passage of RL time, regardless of what you did. AC, WoW, DDO, and maybe a couple others have all experimented with quest-based advancement. Puzzle Pirates has you puzzling your way to victory. If the non-persistence of your LOTRO orc doesn't work for you, don't you already have a million other games to PvP in that follow the 'traditional path'? Isn't that the audience that Vanguard is already going for? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Tmon on August 29, 2006, 04:57:01 PM Heck the more I think about this monster thing the more I think I might buy the game just to play one. My playstyle runs more to dinking around than trying to level or become uber so just being able to log in and play a goblin for an hour might be right down my alley. It would be nice to have a way to access the higher level mobs that didn't involve pve grinding. Hell just give me a 100 gold every week and charge 1 to play goblin #699 and 100 to play the lord high Uruk Hai muckety muck.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: hal on August 30, 2006, 05:53:32 PM Ya, I gotta chime in. If being a mob in a group of npc mobs is an option. This could be a riot. and be a challenge for the PC attacking. This has a lot of merit.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: LC on August 30, 2006, 11:15:00 PM Say what you will about Turbine, but they always come up with something really new out of left field. This is NOT an original idea turbine came up with. It has been discussed in the mmo community for years. I have an irc log from a year ago when I discussed the same (but not crippled like turbines) system with Nija. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on August 31, 2006, 12:37:00 AM LC, I think we have it all clear at this point that Turbine raped your firstborn (To be fair, I'd probably let them rape mine - so long as our biases are all clear ;p) - but that's a pretty weak line of thinking. A million and one ideas have been discussed for possible MMO mechanics, monster-play being among them. We've talked a lot about perma-death virtual worlds, too. So? Very few companies have even attempted such a thing - and attempting something most companies don't try, even if it's been discussed plenty around the 'net as a possibility, qualifies as innovation in my book.
We've talked about more interactive quests - with puzzles, traps, platformer action, and the like - for years, too. As of yet, Turbine is still the only company to make a serious effort in this regard, so IMHO that still wins them points for originality. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Rasix on August 31, 2006, 12:40:11 AM Say what you will about Turbine, but they always come up with something really new out of left field. This is NOT an original idea turbine came up with. It has been discussed in the mmo community for years. I have an irc log from a year ago when I discussed the same (but not crippled like turbines) system with Nija. How'd your implementation turn out? :-P Anyhow, EQ has had "monster missions" for a while now I think. But it's a lot different than what Turbine has proposed here. Those were basically PVE missions you did as a monster but in no way was it attached to any PVP. My ex-roommate and his brother would use the EQ monster missions to get easy levels. Apparently they were a cakewalk and netted disgusting amounts of exp. Heh, but they did have a system for a while where people could control various monsters in the game world. I don't think that lasted long. So yah, this really isn't a new idea, but it's a different spin on it from what we've seen. Quote LC, I think we have it all clear at this point that Turbine raped your firstborn He played AC2 Darktide at launch.. close enough. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: LC on August 31, 2006, 02:16:45 AM How'd your implementation turn out? :-P There was no implementation. Occasionally the "wouldn't it be cool if we made our own mmorpg" topic will pop up. It never goes beyond the "we should have this feature" stage. Probably because nobody wants to be the next The Regulators (http://theregulators.org/) Studios (http://web.archive.org/web/20021123171439/http://www.dominusonline.com/). Anyhow, EQ has had "monster missions" for a while now I think. But it's a lot different than what Turbine has proposed here. Those were basically PVE missions you did as a monster but in no way was it attached to any PVP. My ex-roommate and his brother would use the EQ monster missions to get easy levels. Apparently they were a cakewalk and netted disgusting amounts of exp. Heh, but they did have a system for a while where people could control various monsters in the game world. I don't think that lasted long. So yah, this really isn't a new idea, but it's a different spin on it from what we've seen. I think the whole idea originated in UO. They made a halloween server that allowed you to play as a monster one time. It was fun for a few days. Like every other PVP "solution" it won't hold anyone's interest for very long. Quote LC, I think we have it all clear at this point that Turbine raped your firstborn He played AC2 Darktide at launch.. close enough. I still want a refund. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Simond on August 31, 2006, 07:35:30 AM Heh, but they did have a system for a while where people could control various monsters in the game world. I don't think that lasted long. Similar in concept to LOTRO's PvP idea, only with SOE/Verant's trademarked half-assedness and lack of attention to detail: "Let's give people the ability to corpse-camp newbies in starting zones with anonymous mobs, while simultaneously letting the mobs level up off of the newbies" Result: Orc centurions and shaman camping the elf respawn spots in Gfay. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on August 31, 2006, 07:40:32 AM I still want a refund. Functional chat servers are for bitches. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: shiznitz on August 31, 2006, 08:43:51 AM If you are going to make the monster-PCs grind, then that grind should only complement the regular PvE game and not compete against it with its own quest lines. Monster-PCs are a great way to spice up PvE. If I ever designed a MMO, this would be an integral part of the game. Glad to see someone trying it. Turbine will likely screw it up somehow, but that just means the next dev team will do it better.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Toast on August 31, 2006, 02:48:25 PM Playing as a monster in Everquest was incredibly fun. It was cool to be randomly spawned somewhere in the game world, be it deep in a dungeon or in a newbie hunting ground.
I remember playing as a fire beetle stalking level 2 newbie characters. Eventually, death squads of higher level characters began grouping up to exterminate the player controlled monsters. You had to be very subtle and show no signs of being human to avoid getting nailed. Fun times. It was so refreshing to play. Then, it was gone. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Nija on August 31, 2006, 03:37:27 PM LC and I could make a MMORPG over this upcoming long weekend that would be more fun than anything Turbine has put out in 6 years.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on August 31, 2006, 04:59:25 PM Nija, you're more hateful than me. Just putting that out there, Mr. Eve avatar.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Telemediocrity on August 31, 2006, 06:42:22 PM LC and I could make a MMORPG over this upcoming long weekend that would be more fun than anything Turbine has put out in 6 years. Can we please stop pretending that ideas mean jack shit without execution? Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Nija on August 31, 2006, 10:36:09 PM Can we please stop pretending that ideas mean jack shit without execution? Yeah but if that happens this board ceases to exist. Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Simond on September 01, 2006, 04:18:02 AM Can we please stop pretending that ideas mean jack shit without execution? Certainly - right after most devs do.Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: Margalis on September 01, 2006, 05:54:11 AM Zing.
Title: Re: Lord of the Rings - Beta Signups Post by: schild on September 01, 2006, 03:04:41 PM Can we please stop pretending that ideas mean jack shit without execution? Yeah but if that happens this board ceases to exist.Which I stopped doing (for the most part) a _long_ time ago. |