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Everyone link their armories so we can drool at how awesome you are, or more likely tell you how you're an idiot.

Naturally I'll go first: My paladin. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&cn=Grimthorpe&gn=Novaku)

Gear is standard battlegrounder stuff, gems are blue quality, enchants are from a "nice ones to get if you're not made of money" list Azaroth posted here months ago, except for the weapon enchant I shelled out for. Oh and the shoulder enchant, because I'd rather just use the Wintergrasp one than grind Sons of Hodir rep.

Spec is, I think, pretty cookie cutter for the most part. I think the recent number-cruncher talk is that Seal of Command is ghey and Improved Hammer of Justice overrated, but I could be wrong and that's arena noise anyway. As far as battlegrounds go, hitting multiple people/pets with SoC's new multi-hit effect happens all the time, and I wouldn't trade Imp HoJ for the world.

My holy spec is just the same 20 points in prot from my ret spec, with the holy tree stuff mostly copied from something I found on a blog. It could probably use tweaking, but in practice it's more of an excuse to collect holy gear than anything else. I rarely ever actually use that spec. My holy gear is the blue crafted 78 stuff, slowly being upgraded with Wintergrasp purples. I'm sure my holy glyphs aren't what they ought to be, and my holy gear enchants would probably seem pretty random if you saw them, but I don't care.

My statistics page is a total mess and I'm pretty sure completely WTF WRONG in many places, not that anyone would care.

I think I'm more or less in order, but here are my questions to the peanut gallery:

* Should I be gemming differently? Maybe some of those off-color gems that give some stam+whatever instead of pure stam gems?

* How are my ret glyphs?

* Anything blatantly wrong that I'm not aware of?

Bear in mind that battlegrounds and Wintergrasp are what I do, and I don't give a damn for PVE. Also, I showed you mine, now show me yours.  :pedobear:

(logged out in my stupid tux like a tard, fixed)

My three highest: (the first one is currently getting the most attention, and they're all pretty sad).

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Mortissya (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Mortissya)
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Deadelsie (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Deadelsie)
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Durotan&n=Thanosa (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Durotan&n=Thanosa)

Laugh away.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eredar&n=Divinefury

God has seen fit not to let me get Bracers, Shoulders, or a Cloak from Ulduar.  But soon, soon I shall have enough badges!

My three highest as well...

Mage (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Magra)
Druid (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Ithora)
Priest (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Selby)

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&n=Delily

Can't decide if I want Demonic Brutality or Improved Succubus for the destro.

My druid:
http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&n=Greenspire (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&n=Greenspire)

Though I prefer the following to the official armory, since it can display your armor for both your talent-specs:
http://www.wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone=eu&server=Azjol-Nerub&name=Greenspire (http://www.wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone=eu&server=Azjol-Nerub&name=Greenspire)

My warrior I am currently playing (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Velen&n=Sendayen)
My ret noob. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Velen&n=Banur)
My DK I used to raid with. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Velen&n=Inshalla)

WUA, do you really need the Seal of Command glyph?  I don't really notice mana problems on my pally.  Exorcism seems like a more "useful" glyph in the search for exploding people.  And on your geming.  I thought the general rule of thumb was to ignore most socket bonuses for +str gem and only take what you have to to activate the meta.  

My badly geared, badly glyphed, serious fucked up main -- my level 69 hunter (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&cn=Kalan).

I'm about to go to Northend, though. Maybe. :)

My badly equipped dudes!  Weee (I'll be fixing my goggles at least soon on Traunk.   Just as soon as a friend sends me the borean leather she owes me)

My warrior
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Traunk

My shaman
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Ygg

Matching socket boni isn't always worth it, and I'm doubtful of the value of stam gems for a DPS class doing nothing but BGs and WG. I'd probably regem for straight strength and crit everywhere tbh. Also, you probably have a lot of spare honour, and epic gems can be bought for 10K honour a pop, might be worth upgrading to some of those as you get new pieces.

Everything else looks pretty sane though. Have you considered trying prot/holy as your offspec? It is rumoured to be the OP spec of the month, and you'd probably find it more to your style that straight holy.


Talisman of resurgence  :uhrr:

Me

PRIEST (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Kyai)
SHAMAN (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Nerfed)

Leve 80 Hunter (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Rexxar&n=Pelton)

I have 2 other level 80 toons, but the hunter's the only one that's done any raiding.

Hi. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=The+Venture+Co&n=Soulfire)

... logged out in prot gear.  Oops.  My holy gear is even better.

If anyone really cares, wow-heroes still has the holy gear cached.  Soulfire, The Venture Co

Warlock (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Delat).  I tend to finish the day in my PVP set.  My PVE spec/gear is based on the fact that I don't think I'll ever raid again (can probably redistribute the improved soul leech then). Will regem when I feel this set is complete as my early gem choices were mainly to make me less of a free kill.

Shaman (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Rasix). Crushes greens and lately has been doing some direbrew healing.  Logged out in my incomplete and so-so gemmed resto set. I raided with this character a long time ago.

DK.  (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Glaaki) Isn't played much outside of gems and the odd Wintergrasp.

Heh, every character has a lame ass titansteel weapon.  Put someone honor weapons up already, asshole Blizz.

My Warrior, who I intentionally gave a really boring real-life name. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&n=Bryce)

I need to gem out of defense/expertise since I was actually pretty close to going under cap several upgrades ago.

And no, I cannot fucking get rid of the naxx10 shield. Shields, they evade me. 23 Auriya kills in 10-man and NO DROP. Just as many Hodir-25 kills and ONE drop which I lost. One drop from Anub-10 which I lost. No drops from Beasts-25. I cannot get a fucking shield.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Non - My warrior, I hit people with stuff
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Nonentity - My shaman, slightly less geared, I shoot lightning bolts at people
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Start - Haven't played my druid in a while, still decently geared

Rogue (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Hellscream&cn=Tonberry) Priest (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Hellscream&n=Surly) Deathknight (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Black+Dragonflight&n=Zweihander)

I let my account lapse, having no interest in the game until cataclysm unfucks azeroth so I can level my alts.

Lazy c&p from the sticky thread. I typically use a fair bit of pvp gear for pve [and gem it as such] because I'm too cheap to enchant+gem 3-4 sets of gear at the same time [not to mention the alternative would be using some level80 blue]

Alliance side for srs bsns (ie heroics, some BGing, and pug raids once in a blue moon):
Ranagol (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Crushridge&n=Ranagol) - main, priest. My shadow 'gear' is mostly the same as healing stuff, so yeah. I also cbf getting proper glyphs for shadow.
Zaphiir (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Crushridge&n=Zaphiir) - dk who's been getting more airtime recently and still hasn't respecced out of blood for that little 5-man tanking I do occasionally
Solarion (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Crushridge&n=Solarion) - retired shaman that occasionally crafts gems

Horde side for screwing around:
Zaphir (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Crushridge&n=Zaphir) - DEFINITELY NOT A DIRTY ALLIANCE SPY. Crappy gear, but at least I did 2.3k dps right after hitting 80. Buff Blood Fury!  :awesome_for_real:

I'm still waiting for someone to mock the crap out of my hunter, his pets, his talents, or his gear.

I mean, come ON. He was badly geared back when I was playing him. The only toon I have geared worse is a feral druid sitting around geared in a bunch of spirit/int stuff because I geared her back when feral was pointless, and I keep putting off regearing her.

I felt like it'd be kind of redundant, him being a Hunter and all.

Haven't played a hunter past 26 and that was all pre-TBC.  Plus, you're leveling.  It's pointless to make fun of someone's spec that's still leveling.  Now if you show up in a 80 heroic with strength gems, SP gear, and a 71/0/0 spec, then we can talk.

Mocking gear is extra silly to direct at someone still leveling!

These are more or less in order of me caring about them, although the tie breaker was "how recently they hit 80." So my warrior came in last. I KNOW she sucks, she's not even at 540 defense yet. :(

My DK. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Sofi)
My druid. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Jassan)
My hunter. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Tandara)
My poor unloved paladin. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Tritana)
My EXTREMELY redundant warrior. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Sjofn)


EDIT: I looked at Morat's spec to make him feel more loved, then realised I have always ignored the fuck out of beast spec and have no idea what is good or bad for them. So um. You probably could drop hawkeye pretty safely. Other than that, I dunno.  :awesome_for_real:

You may now mock my played yesterday for the first time in seven months shaman (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=Kathliene).

Eh the spec is fine for leveling. Beast falls behind in the srs business raiding stuff right now but it maybe the best leveling spec in the game. Also you were smart enough to not spec spirit bond so you're not really giving us anything to work with here.  :-P


So, gem-wise, the main thing is you are matching socket colors to get stuff like +4 crit rating. Typically from a pure damage perspective it would be better to just throw more +16 strength gems in those slots. For PVP I'm not quite as sure about that; my warrior has a lot of resil/stam gems in his pvp suit for the yellow and blue slots. You might also consider hit gems in the yellows, since you're not at the pvp hit cap of 5%.

Talent-wise divine sacrifice/guardian seems a little odd in a BG hero type build, seems more of a PVE raid saver or an arena trick to me - I would consider moving those 3 points over to the holy deep wounds thing at the top of the ret tree or something.

Glyph-wise, SoC isn't a great glyph. I'm not 100% sure what the best choice to run instead for pvp is though. Hand of salv glyph would give you another defensive cooldown, that might be nice?


That is some bad shield luck. I have 2 of those Auriaya ones, I put titanium plating on one for pvp.  :grin: I wouldn't gem out of any expertise, you're at 26 which is exactly on the dodge cap.

How are you liking the shield wall glyph/talent? I'm not using it right now personally because there's really not much call for it outside of hard modes on the stuff we're doing (and we aren't doing hard modes) and I am having a hard time finding talent points I'd want to use on that. I see you skipped Armored to the Teeth to get it - that's a pretty big threat hit, does it seem worth it?

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Also: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Thorgrim

I need to get rid of my +defense trinket somehow, so I can put another stamina trinket on (I have the Black Heart and the other brewfest trinket lying around, waiting for the math to finally settle on one of those theorycrafting-wise.) The easiest thing will be to pick up some pants that actually have +def on them, but I lost the roll on T8.10 pants last night again, and the ones I'm using have a lot to recommend them over any of the alternatives I have banked.

My next badge buy is the conquest belt I think, the badge pants don't strike me as very good and I don't want to have to wear T8 gloves to get to the 4 piece (eventually). I'm not getting enough triumph badges to worry about that stuff since we're not running ToC and I have been lazy about the dungeon daily. My first buy will probably be the thrown weapon or the ring on those.

Well, I can't promise not showing up 71/0/0......but even I know what Hunter gear should look like, even if I'm still a bit iffy on the resliance, crit, to hit and all those other changes. I quit right before they added resiliance.....but agility, to-hit, and crit should be pretty high. Stamina's nice for dealing with AoE, but Hunters wear mail and simply can't survive an elite meleeing them for long. If I'm being attacked directly, I'm doing something wrong....

Even then, I think I have like one more talent point I want in BM, and then the rest probably in marksman. I'm still debating on whether to drop the survival talent that extends range to go a bit deeper in Marksman.....

I dunno. I could probably have a slightly more efficient BM spec, but I like evil kitties of DPS doom.

Also, having just got this a few days ago, I LOVE SNAKE TRAP. IT IS THE BEST TRAP EVER.

Skipping armored to the teeth hasn't really hurt me yet, and for the two classes that can catch me on threat (well equipped druids and warlocks), I doubt it'd save me. It hurts not having your shield wall completely trivialize the damage some bosses do, but having a CD up every two minutes between last stand and shield wall is fucking awesome. I always bust last stand with my trinkets and enraged regeneration; it's almost as good as a flat out damage reduction. It also lets you cheese some fights like general vezax since between a priest with pain suppression you can just eat his soft-enrages forever.

Also, all of the T9 gear has fucking ridiculous amounts of expertise on it. When I get a couple more upgrades I want I'll be able to totally dump all expertise gems and still be way the fuck over 26 skill.

Well, its not terrible to be sitting high on expertise - points past 26 are still as good as hit, mostly, and it gives some minor reduction to incoming damage by reducing parry haste on the boss. (And I'm totally not saying that just because I'm at 37 expertise, ungemmed...)

Wait so you mean I can stick a red gem in a blue socket? I didn't even know I could do that. When I get a gem and it says "fits a yellow socket" it would never occur to me to try to cram it into a blue one.  :uhrr:

Says "matches" not "fits".  :uhrr: :uhrr: :awesome_for_real:

And that's one to grow on!

Yeah.  Most tanks ignore them completely and put Stam gems in every socket.  I'm 75% there, if the bonus is Stam I make some effort to put a matching something+Stam gem in there.  But I have Jewelcrafting+BlackSmithing, so I have a bit of leeway.

Try not to hurt yourselves laughing too much:  Kalindriel the Druid (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Kalindriel)

Currently in her Oomkin outfit for Brewfest.  I think it's actually better than her feral even though I'm running around as that most of the time.  Um, guildies, maybe you shouldn't look.

I figure there's no point in linking my plethora of sub-40 alts.

Apparently Talisman of Resurgence is actually quite good for arcane spec mages. Its wacky, but I was reading something about that on EJ recently.

You noob.  :heart:

Regemmed for all strength, keeping the two blue gems required for my meta in my belt and legs, where the socket bonus they generate is more strength. Replaced Command glyph with Exorcism one.


I know, right? I actually learned something from this thread.  :why_so_serious:

God loves him some retnoobs.

 :ye_gods:   :heart:

Priest (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Kildi&gn=Slap+in+the+Face)

For like, that game I used to play and such.

No rush, but you can also replace your Stam gems with the STR+STAM gems.  Purple gems still should count as blues for the meta.

I only figured that out last week, when I tried to find a blue gem (I think) and couldn't find one on the AH that was worth shit, and replaced it with a purple and saw I got the meta bonus.

Yeah, by "kept blues" I mean "replaced them with off-color gems that maintain the socket bonus". I don't think stam + str gems exist though. I went with some stam + attack power ones.

Yeah, hybrid gems count for both of their base colors for socket bonuses and meta gem activation, so Purple (red and blue) etc. for green and orange.

Also, the special prismatic gems that give +all stats, count as all 3 colors, Enchanted Pearl (+4) , Enchanted Tear (+6) , Nightmare Tear (+10) but you can only have one in your entire set of gear at any given time.


They do, they are purple with the Sovereign prefix so Sovereign Shadow Crystal, Sovereign Twilight Opal, Sovereign Dreadstone.

Oh hey, I bet I logged out my druid as resto, didn't I.  :drill:

He's feral most of the time and that suit is better. It is also not mostly cloth. ><

Hrm. No sov gems on the AH.

edit: Had some made.

Time for my list I guess, and it is a list.   :ye_gods:  :why_so_serious:

Horde:

Paladin (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=Broli) New main character, just hit 80 less than 2 weeks ago.
Priest (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=Exequias) Former main, put to pasture because 6+ raiding priests in guild is a bit overkill.
Druid (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=Fubaro)  Mostly just a herbing and flask making machine, don't play him much.
Hunter (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=Futhulu) Skinning and Mining gatherer, will probably hit 80 soon, fun in pvp.

Alliance:

DK (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=Blueday) lol DK and lol Spy
Warrior (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&n=Muffins) My main for a short bit at WoTLK launch, caught up with some old TBC friends before predictable guild implosion and most of them transfered.
Mage (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&n=Hiyu) Alt on the warrior's server.

I always play a mage for at least a short while in every expansion due to Nostalgia since this guy (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Black+Dragonflight&n=Frezaheim) was my main for all of classic WoW, but I haven't touched him since.

My only defense/excuse for having this many 80's is I pretty much despise achievements and thus keep myself busy with extreme altitis and pvp.

Edit: Also, I can usually tell when it's time for a new expansion when I'm close to having a max level character in every class.   :why_so_serious:

Hey, someone with more 80s than me!

O Hai, my e-peen is HUGE (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Icecrown&n=Sooth)!

Poop sock ahoy!  :awesome_for_real: 

I just got a new robe.  Yay, my fear is .2 seconds faster.  :oh_i_see:

Grats on the mace!  :grin:  My paladin would kill for one.

My guild's GM and MT has the same affliction; he's praying for the shield of Anub currently.


Teldrassil Protector (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45076) and Titanweave would get you most of the way, for not much loss.

Clutch of Fortification  (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47731) might be another option.

None are ideal though, it's a pretty iffy juggling act to get them in.

Grats on the mace!

Feh.  Improved my DPS by over 100 compared to what I had there before.

Fair enough; I wasn't really aware of it's benefits for Arcane mages. In all other regards it screams healer trinket to me. I'll maintain that any other caster spec would have to be a little crazy to take it.

I acknowledge that getting trinket upgrades sucks balls.

The DK  (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&n=Merusk)

Fucking weapons don't drop for our raid.  I've been running Ulduar since week one and I've seen only 4 2h weapons drop, they all went to Pugs with the old guild or People who no longer play with the current one.  Goddamn assholes.  Relearning Unholy spec for the 4th time in a year is also less than fun. Damn you, Blizzard.

The Priest (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&n=Sabilene)  It doesn't get much play so the gear is shit.  I hate healing but I hate shadow spec even more.   It's the only other 80 I've got and I'm not entirely sure why I leveled it instead of one of the other 3 70s I had, a Hunter a Lock and a Pally.

 They're going to languish at 70 for a good while because Northrend was fun the first time, but only tolerable the 2nd and I'm just not interested in doing it again, even on Horde side. Which is sad because I enjoyed playing all 3 in BC.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Sturmvogel

I need a new staff, when are we doing ToC Thorgrim?

My priest (http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aggramar&n=Xentho), complete with slightly wacky, experimental 10 man holy build.

I kind of need a new cloak but seeing as I only do 10 man raids, the only one that seems available is an ulduar trash drop, so not farmable in the slightest.

My Paladin (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Lender)
My Death Knight (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Frostscythe) (Oh, wow, I must have logged him in his Plaguelands armor, yeah, I don't normally tank in that)

Yes, I was in a raiding guild for almost a whole month!  Then it died :(

Sorry I missed all this, I was drinking with my old man all day. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stonemaul&n=Mcgarnagle

My gear is not great, I admit, but it's not the worst either.

My DK: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Ratadmb

My warrior I played during Vanilla wow but haven't bothered with sense I came back except for one night I leveled him twice : http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Ratadm

You could go for the cloak of Ignis; that would be the most available upgrade I think.

Holy builds are a piece of shit to get right, my feelings with holy is that you never need more than 1/2 Surge of Light, and Blessed Resilience offers you more throughput than empowered healing. With a renew-centric build like yours I would personally take BR over EH, although I would debate the merits of the Renew Glyph over the GS glyph. GS with a 1min cooldown is amazing in 10s, where you are often lacking cooldowns.

Yup I do miss the GS glyph, I'm probably going to swap out CoH for it though as healing 6 people instead of 5 in a 10 man raid isn't all that significant usually.

The renew build is kind of a test but has been working out pretty well, bearing in mind that 90% of the time I'm dual healing with a holy pally.  My previous spec hardly used renew at all but with every available talent dumped into it as well as the glyph it does start to tick for a significant amount.  But really it's almost impossible to tell which one performs best, unless I do something silly like using healing meters as a measurement.

True, if you're clearing the content not much else matters.

In case anyone couldn't wait to view yet another run-of-the-mill prot warrior leveling through Northrend...

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sargeras&n=Fenjay

Ok, gems fixed to all +str except for two +stam/str, placed in items where they activate +str socket bonuses to enable the meta. Thank you for the tips guys.

My new warlock main:http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Elitist


Apparently warlocks in my guild like to emo suicide every couple of months.

Say hello to Gorgeous (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowsong&n=Gorgeous).

That's what you get when you can only play for ~1 hour/day.  And yeah, I know, missing enchants, crappy gems, whatever  :why_so_serious:

Not bad for an hour a day. That hit rating, though, ouch.

Yeah I know, heh, good job most of the people I seem to end up pugging with are totally over-geared for heroics. I regularly get out-dps'd by the tank  :why_so_serious:

Sup, thou? (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&n=Beladar)

Living ice crystals? I am so, so sorry.

... mp5 gems?  Really?

 :facepalm:

IED is really the only meta gem for healers, sorry.

Blood in the water.

5/5 Ancestral Knowledge and Elemental Focus.

I'm pretty sure the gem he has isn't active, either.

(also it's a TBC cut)

His talents are OK. Mine are a touch different, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong. However, I wouldn't take elemental focus. With a one minute shamanistic rage, you simply don't need it. I'd ditch elemental warding for improved shields, though--especially with t8 or t9 bonuses.

The reason tanks are beating his dps is the hit rating. Not having this soft capped is pure death on enhance dps. Even at the horde soft cap (368), hit is still a very good stat to stack (comparable with crit), especially with the high haste and ArP found on the t8/t9 sets and their equivalents. High haste will also make lightning shield and everyting associated with it a much greater comtribution to dps as well.

I know, I know :p  Playing ~1hr/day really makes you aware of just how much time people sink into this game.

Hit rating a constant struggle for enhance shaman. Personally, being a JC helps hugely--and keeps the expense down (sorta).

Right now I'm wanting to switch my t8 chest for the t9, but I simply can't do it because I can't make up the huge hit rating loss when you remove the t8 chest. There simply aren't enough sockets for gems and the dps cost is enormous, despite the t9 superiority in (other) basic stats. I have to have both the t9 helm and chest, or I simply can't make the switch. Also, losing my offhand--say, to a certain axe from Onyxia--would cause some gemming issues with hit--and expertise--as well. It never ends. Never.

Still, your chief aim is to get hit to 368 and expertise to 140. This take priority over anything else. Once you hit those numbers, then you have some room to play around with gemming/enchants to optimize dps.

SPriest (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Catakin)

Only recently been putting out enough DPS to be worth taking to Uld, and since then I have come to reside in the 3-3.5k dps mark. I am pretty much the only raiding SPriest in the guild though, and we're low on Priests in general, so I took Disc as a second spec but I am neither geared for it nor have settled on a spec, so nyer.

PS I am totally ready for a decent staff now plzkthx. Hate 1H/offhand so so much. Fuck you, Ony, for no staff drops. :heartbreak:

I am really disappointed by this thread's contents. Title had such a promise.

It's not. I've been only logging in for raids and thus don't have a ton of cash to keep my gems updated. Although I just got laid off last thursday, so I can play more!  :uhrr:

Gah. Between enchants, gems and repairs, raiding downtime is a huge time gobbler.

It's not a huge time gobbler. It's 250G a day just running Argent Crusade, and that should only take you 30 mins or so to get the easy ones done. (Things like "Krull is at it again" and "Stop the Aggressors," Kill 15 cultists and the daily "Kill this dude."  OFten you can get some of the longer flight ones done at the same time.   If you want to extend it out to an hour to an hour and a half you can get all the Argent Crusade quests AND the ones on your Faction's skyship done.

Unless you're on a PVP server.. then I can see it taking forever.

Just delete the one that has you harpoon the sea monster guy.  God that quest makes me crabby. 

Really? Why? That's one of the easiest ones, imo.

Yes, it IS a little bit of a pain if the Kraken keeps spawning in front of you. The solution is target it as soon as you can see it and spam your harpoon key.  You'll fire off at least 2-3 shots before he goes under.  There's enough passes around the area that you can get your 8 shots in even if this is the case.

Embrace of the spider is a horrible trinket for spriests, the haste is just not worth it.  you're much better off with the crit/spellpower badge trinket than anything with haste.  Also you're about 19 points under the hit cap which may not seem like much but can hurt you over long fights. Actually, just put icewalker on your poots, that should be all the hit you need plus a little crit. it's a really cheap enchant being one of the early northrend ones.  Run heroic toc as much as you can for the dagger as well, much better than your weapon and probably a lot easier to get than any other upgrade.

Your spec is fine, that's pretty much the only real pve spriest spec anyways.

Do this with another person, and you can get another 13g if you kill the kraken.  One of my more favorite quests out of that mess.

God! I put an IED in there! ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW?  :why_so_serious:

No!

Embrace of the Spider is there mostly for the big fat 98 spellpower - I could swap it out for a passive hit trinket, though that's got a haste proc too. I used to be massively over the hit-cap (we're talking hit in the 400s) but since Ulduar gear upgrades are bizarrely missing hit, it's slowly leeched out of my build. I wear a heroic ToC drop hat during raids to cap hit, though. Thanks for the ideas and the tip on Icewalker, might save me having to use a hit trinket at this rate!

Hmm, My server is PVP, and i can usually do all of the Argent tournament dailys in about 45 minutes.  I often skip the joust 4 champions one, but i do all the rest, never seems to take that long (also depends on if you have to do Snobolds or Jormungar eggs for the "keep the Beasts happy" daily.

While I know I could find this out for myself, I thought I'd ask it anyways.  Is it possible to do the valiant and champion quests at the same time?  I opened up the champion quests via the Undercity, but it seems to open up the heirloom vendor in the AT, I need to the remaining cities.   I want to do dailies to try and drum  up cash for 300 riding skill, as well as get some heirloom items, and if I can do both quest lines, it would be great.

Re: Valiant and Champs.

Yes, there's no overlap in the quests although they are done in roughly the same area. The Valiant quests are city specific, while the Champs are not.

Zam, zee mage (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Zam)

Currently in the middle of regemming/building, but close to getting my T8 hat, so i stopped for that moment. It's fine to replace gems that cost 15-30g, but when you start thinking of replacing the epic gems it starts to make me double and triple rethink  things.

I don't get the attitudes here. "Omg I play an hour a day so I'm too poor to buy decent gear. And yeah I know I'm missing enchants, but fuck that shit, I don't play enough".

I'm also fairly positive tons of you are sitting on boatloads of money. How many of you actually can't afford the 5-600g required to gem and enchant your junk and how many don't want to because you never do PvE where anyone gives a shit about that?

There's a pretty fundamental psychological aversion in most humans to avoid half-assing shit which is probably why so many of the explanations aren't "I'm too lazy/cheap/don't care enough" but instead "I don't have enough time".

Epic gems can be bought with heroism tokens you bunch of wankers. VoA, Naxx, Ulduar, ToC 10 man all net you tokens enough to buy tons of gems.

Not to mention 10k honor nets you tokens as well.  Twenty minutes in WG often nets me 20k honor.  Plus you can turn in stone shards for honor as well.

Not to defend the bads, but when you play on a truly limited basis, there's not a lot you can get done.

Heroism tokens buying epic gems doesn't mean much if you don't play enough to run a heroic.  WG will net you 20k honor once, maybe twice a week (the quest resetting is a bit wonky) and sometimes doesn't fall within windows people can play (I've had this happen a few times).  Stoneshards require the previous two.

As for me, I have plenty of money for what I do.  I could deck a chosen toon in the best BOE money could buy.  I choose not to: heroics don't require it.  I don't raid.  Gemming/enchanting is easy for me because I have toons that can do it.

edit: now, if there were a lovely, expensive BOE 2handed axe, I'd be there.

Grinding faction to buy quartermaster loot, playing BG's and WG, and leveling alts.  That's about the options when you have a life that doesn't allow for scheduled play. 

I pve in honor/WG gear because that's the best I'll ever be able to have.  It's sufficient. 

My new main (got sick of my paladin and healing in general) - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ysondre&n=Afflux (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ysondre&n=Afflux)

For a character that has only been 80 for 8 days I'm quite happy with my current gear.


I also like showing off this page - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Ysondre&cn=Wejas&gn=Wake+of+Destruction (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Ysondre&cn=Wejas&gn=Wake+of+Destruction)

For lazy people it is -

Latest Updated Statistics
Items disenchanted - 3117
Materials produced from disenchanting - 6992

 :awesome_for_real:

This.

Now that this has been posted I'll even post my solo toon: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Drenden&n=Waalber (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Drenden&n=Waalber) Fitted by faction and honor gear - I don't think he's ever been in a dungeon - forget heroics. I'm about to hit exalted on KT >>with daily questing alone<<. There should be an Achievement for that...

That's a lot of cooking, fishing, and JC dailies.   :awesome_for_real:

He does herbing and alchemy. No JC. And yes, yes it is a lot of dailies.  :drillf: He's exalted with the walrus' too. Lubs that fishin' pole.

p.s. the cooking hat is >>verra<< nice. Insta cook. Now what to do with all those extra tokens?

I consider catching Ironjaw, all of the fountain coins, and my chef's hat to be my most significant achievements to date!

Coins: talk about your hardcore casual! That's even too grindy for >>Me<<!!

Well played sir, well played.

I seem to have slid down the path of fishing... mainly because Salty Gorgeous would just be too good  :why_so_serious:

I am not to sure how accurate the Armory stats thing is.  Checking my DK, I see:

Most deadly Lich King dungeon boss - Lavanthor (9)

I can't recall every dying to the dog boss in VH, much less 9 times.  Really, how does anyone die to the dog boss in VH?

And I have died many times in Ulduar, but not a single death listed.

My shaman did revered->exalted on with KT only through doing fishing and cooking dailies. Mostly just on fishing really.  Didn't even know I was close when it dinged.  :awesome_for_real:

How do you expect people to reach 450 fishing?

I was extremely baffled when I saw that the cooking daily was going to reward more tokens.  I'd already bought every cooking recipe, and the hat... what the hell else is there to buy with them?  Spices?  I've got easily 300+ kicking around, I can't picture burning through just the spices I have kicking around in the mail and bank... ever.

Between the lag and the small area to fish in it's way too hardcore for me. I was at max fishing way before I got to 80 just doing the dailies.

Oh, and always get at least one skillup when you're doing 'em even if you have the quest reward on cast #2.

If you are going to fish anywhere just for skilling - do it in Wintergrasp. All the fish there are used for Fish Feast http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43015 (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43015).

Armory stats are just flat out broken and have been since they added them. I think it might still technically be a 'beta'.

How the hell am I supposed to wag my epeen if the damn thing doesn't work?

This is a bad investment if you don't have tons of heroism tokens lying around, since the upgrades are always better point for point by spending the current tokens on gear instead for most casual players.

Likewise, if you actually pvp you typically want to spend your honor on gear rather than epic gems unless you're already decked out with the best stuff.

Amateur!

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Malithod&gn=Slap+in+the+Face (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Malithod&gn=Slap+in+the+Face)

Items disenchanted - 6678
Materials produced from disenchanting - 14,922

I've been slackin' lately actually on that.  Too much time fussing with alts.

In my meager defense Ysondre is a very low-pop server and I only started playing WoW again a few months ago.  :ye_gods:

Ha - I should look up some of the big enchanting AH names on the server for some real scary numbers.

Edit: Ah yes, this fine lady: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Thierry&gn=Exiled+Legion (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Thierry&gn=Exiled+Legion)
 
She's ALWAYS on, ALWAYS in the AH.  I dunno how she got to 80 in the AH.  17k disenchanted to 41k materials.  I wish it still showed gold on the armory, I'm sure it's like eleventy bazillion for her (she sells basically everything, not just DE stuff).

Some anti-derailing, EXPOSING my flock of dudes:

The aforementioned "main" (rogue): http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Malithod (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Malithod)
My first character, but latest to 80, mage:  http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Metcalf (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Metcalf)
Paladin, plan was to prot, but his ret gear is better:  http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Yegor (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Yegor)
Warrior, plan was to fury, but now I like prot:  http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Nar (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Nar)
Healy priest:  http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Jalago (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Jalago)

Some of my favorite WoW nights were drinking beer and fishing for Old Crafty while hiding in Orgrimmar with my Alliance druid.  Nat Pagle has a point about fishing being good for drinking heavily.

Thrawn, either your sig is wrong or your armory link is wrong.  Weejas or Wejas?

Guess I never updated it, it was Weejas before I transfered the character to a different server and had to change it.

(http://cdn.sheknows.com/graphics/emoticons/flasher.gif)

I'm 45 and I have two blue things.  That sounds like it belongs in the Curt the baseball guy's A/S/L thread.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khadgar&n=Kirth

O hai, fellow Ysondrite: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ysondre&n=Laeoretha

My main character is on Norgannon though: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&n=Larsy

My main... and only 80, is Shinrai (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Caelestrasz&n=Shinrai) who accidentally admitted to being willing to heal and since then has had to leave the axes at home. We mainly do 10 man stuff (I prefer it, the smaller the raid the more varied the gameplay) so not in danger of being uber-geared.

Depends on your definition of half-assed. I play how much I want to, and if that means I don't have my Enchanting maxxed or have more purps than Casual McCasual, so be it.

I recently resubbed after some months away.

My Healer:
http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=The+Maelstrom&n=Konfucius
(My "main", although the Warrior below is a much older character, stacked haste on this resto shaman)

My Tank:
http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=The+Maelstrom&n=Krummi
(some really weird gems on him, I had change some since the 3.2 gem change, and I'm cheap)

Helm graphic: off. Also usually mutilate spec so I can run fast and be cool. I am so cool.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Area+52&cn=Zev&gn=Sick+Burn

You should put that other point into Combat Expertise so you can stand in front of the boss. :awesome_for_real:

Its 52 total expertise to remove parry, so no he can't.

You can't tell me what to do!

Did you have to kill the joke?

FOR THE POWER OF THE HORDE! (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azuremyst&cn=Irrukai)

Needs music. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_cZk7FrB_Q)

EDIT: That's just my latest.  Under 10 days /played without RAF.

Fucking dungeon system getting me to PVE...

As a ret pally in PVE, hit > crit yes? How many points of hit rating does it take before one doesn't want any more?

Edit: Or maybe not? Stuff I'm turning up says crit. I dunno why I give a fuck, I'm never going past heroics and I can DPS those just fine in my fucking BG PVP gear.

Edit2: Oh yeah, someone ran a meter today to yell at some mage who was fucking off and not doing anything. (I don't even have the meter addon currently.) Is 2.5k DPS in all 213/226 PVP gear okay? (All the shit you can buy with honor and that's it.) Or should I be doing more? I mean I know it's enough for heroics in any case, but I'm curious. I don't follow this sorta shit normally.

If you really care get Rawr (http://www.codeplex.com/Rawr), but 2.5k DPS is plenty fine, plenty plenty. Anyone who bitches at you about 2.5k DPS in heroics needs to fuck off frankly  :awesome_for_real:

2.5K DPS in that gear is pretty good, and I wouldn't kick anyone doing 2.5K in most heroics. It's not stellar, but it won't really hinder a group for anything. It's a tad low for Halls of Reflection, but that's about it.

You want hit up to about 5% for physical attacks after that don't worry about it if you're just PVPing/ running Heroics.   If you're worried about your spells hitting, it's about 12%, but I wouldn't worry about it.

For heroics, I think the cap is 7% for bosses.  2.5k dps is fine for any heroic, with the possible exception being HHoR.

If you're looking to gem, then str > all.  If you are looking at how stats rank, then a quick perusal of the EJ thread for ret paladins is probably in order.

Hmm.  A quick look at EJ (link (http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t68951-retribution_updated_3_3_a/#Stats)) says, in order of importance:
- Stack hit to 8% (except that's for nominally level 83 bosses, and you are going after level 82 bosses, so 7% should be, in theory, fine.)
- Gem str unless you have 2T9, in which case use str/crit gems to activate sockets with 4 str or more.
- Expertise
- Crit
- Agility (if you want to use leather/mail/jewelry, sometimes agil+attack power is better than str)
- Haste
- Attack power
- Armor penetration

In short, you're looking for gear with some combination of expertise/crit/hit/haste.  Avoid Armor pen if you can.

Thanks all, I'll keep it in mind. I probably won't bother with the new heroics until I've put together a little PVE gear anyway. I've done so little PVE up to this point that the old ones aren't burned-out to me. I'm still popping "first time you beat this dungeon" achievements left and right.

Was looking at the loot lists and even the NORMAL versions of the new dungeons give out stuff people had to raid to get two patches ago. Oh the splendid times we live in.

WUA, if you're curious get Rawr (http://rawr.codeplex.com/), point it to your armory profile, check the talents, buffs, and fight tabs to see that all the info is correct.  Then you should have a realistic account of what your character can do and how each piece of gear, talent, glyph, enchant, gem, and buff contributes to the total under the circumstances in a nice little .Net framework GUI.

This is my non-raiding - semi casual (meaning = I spend all my playing time in group heroics and grinding faction dailies) Rogue:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Caelestrasz&n=Jaquet (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Caelestrasz&n=Jaquet)

Hat is chef's hat (decorative achievement hat only) atm which I just got, but will change it back to Garona's (T9) when I log back in. Almost everything is vendor bought (grinding random LFG heroics for emblem of Triumph badges - the Garona T9 stuff), loot from the new ICC 5 man heroics (daggers) and epic tradeskill items (belt and cape) bought at a discount from the guild or AH. Almost all the gear (except the trinkets) have been upgraded from the ilevel 213-219 stuff from 1 patch back.

My gear now I think would only just qualify for the new "entry level raider" (ilevel 232) these days - as it is I would think I would have been badass 2 patches back.

My healer and enchantment bot:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Caelestrasz&n=Katyuzha (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Caelestrasz&n=Katyuzha)

The plan for this toon is this: grind out heroics as Shadowpriest DPS (a lot less stressful life). Collect Emblem of Triumphs/Frost for T9 healer gear; use the gear  dropped in heroics (the new ICC5 stuff) for the shadow spec.

The thing is with gear for healers - you can't skimp on the gear. You have got to GET THE BEST THAT YOU CAN GET. As DPS you can slack off and put out
2.5k dps while everyone else is doing 3.5k dps - you can get away with it (and won't wipe the raid) - blame it on "had to stop dps and step away from pool of green shat". A healer slacking off, with deficient gear or lagging bad will almost always wipe a raid (or have plenty of people mad at him/her - hence the stress).


  

You need to learn how to tell people to fuck themselves with a rusty spoon.  Heroics are not serious at all, and gear doesn't actually make that much difference compared to a tank that isn't shit for brains and DPS you don't need to babysit.

If your tank is well geared, you don't have to have the bestest best best healer gear. Unless you're doing crazy bleeding edge shit, but that's not a LFD thing.

Some of those well geared tanks can really fuck up an undergeared healer though.  Lately I've been getting uber geared tanks that just chain pull nonstop.  One I had spent most of UP getting hit by nothing, but then something got through.  He went from 45k hp to 20 what could not have been but looked like 1 hit.  I was hard pressed to fix that in a timely fashion for his chain pulling ways.

Yes well, that's the tank being super confident/totally oblivious. Also, if you mean 20k HP left, that's more than enough HP. My fresh 80 tanks had about 22k.  :why_so_serious:

Yea, 20k is about what you'll get from the first crafted tank suit, which is what 90% of the player base started tanking heroics in once they hit 80.

My main: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zangarmarsh&n=Elgrash (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zangarmarsh&n=Elgrash)
Any criticisms and suggestions would be quite welcome.

You are missing a helm enchant.

Go buy the Ebon Blade one. You've got the rep and I do believe it's the best around for melee DPS.

Build advice. (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LA0b0fhZGx00E0uReRVzAo:Gomz0o)

The two points in Imp. Berserker Rage are free to go anywhere except one place: DO NOT PUT THEM IN IMPROVED CLEAVE.



14.8 damage per target hit per point.

Sheepherder, you are an illiterate fucktard.  The ability actually says 'increases it by 120%'.  Just to make sure, I logged in my warrior and respecced improved cleave.  Guess what?  The bonus damage now says "488-489".

Oh, okay, I misread the tooltip and threw 222 x 1.2 into Calc rather than 222 x 2.2.  Throwing numbers into Rawr it's still worth 51 DPS per point when Cleave is glyphed, fighting three simulated trash targets from behind.

EDIT: And I still laugh at people proposing the "It does less threat!" theory, because it's actually less threat efficient per bonus damage than heroic strike on single targets.

EDIT2: Now I get it, I hit x1.2 because I was just looking for the bonus bonus damage, but then repeated the step.  Am drinking battery acid now.

thanks for the help guys. picked up my helm enchant, quite dumb of me to forget it.

Here are my two 80s:

Cauthrien (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Wildhammer&n=Cauthrien), my mostly Disc Priest, in a mix of great-stuff-from-two-patches-ago and Emblem of Triumph gear.

Caladein (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Wildhammer&n=Caladein), my Holy Paladin and tank project.

Since I don't really need a second T10-raid-capable healer (as they're both on the same server again), I've been using my badges, and "Hey, can I need that for off-spec?", on my Paladin to get tank gear to try my hand at Protection.  We'll see how poorly that goes in a week or so...

So I'm gonna end up hit capped on gear alone soon. Should I just gem str to infinity at that point or what?

Yes, except for decent socket bonuses and meta gem requirements.  Congratulations, you just won the gemming minigame.

This is my character Tazzle (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zul%27jin&n=Tazzle).

So after 5 years I finally got a toon to 80 on the day of the last patch.  I haven't done so bad as far as gearing up in that time.  I pretty much did all of this through random heroics and the new lfg system.  

And yes, I know that the guild name is spelled wrong.

WUA:

Gem all strength except one nightmare tear in your best blue/yellow socket bonus. That will cover your metagem requirements for the relentless earthstorm diamond, which is what you should be using. (21 agility +3% bigger crits.) You might be tempted by the 21 crit rating + 3% bigger crits one that casters use (chaotic skyflare diamond) but don't be, it requires 2 blues and you'll more than make up for the difference between 21 crit rating and 21 agility by carrying one less blue gem.

Mind you there are the occasional socket bonuses that are high enough you should try to actually match color for them, keep an eye out for really good ones.

Hey, you're on my server!

If you don't mind me asking, why are you gemming for stam? I don't know rogue gearing, but I'd assume you gem assuming you won't get hit?

As a healer all I can say is HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAH.... *rez*


Talking of which, why do rogues say "Ress plz" when they die? Do they think they healer won't think of it unless they demand it?

Anyway... sorry... /derail

Is the stam gemming for pvp?

I love getting this from warlocks and rogues in the middle of a raid on my druid.  No, I will not battle res your dumb ass for dying unless the raid leader specifically instructs me to!

So am I better off downgrading triumph badges to conquest to fill a given slot, or using the next wave of battleground PVP shit? Because if I just go around randomly filling slots with badge gear, I'm gonna end up way the hell over the hit cap. And wasted hit can't be any better than irrelevant resilience.

I'm not up to speed on all the gems, I was just looking for attack power.  I just chose stam as the second because hp's are good imo.  

Also, while pugging heroics... I found that even if I try my hardest I will get aggro and get squished.

And WUA, after I got all my triumph stuff I went down to the next vendor to fill out what was missing that I could upgrade.  It's not like those are triumph's are gonna be useful for anything else.

WUA, you could look into the crafted rewards for your class and see if they're upgrades; if so, use your triumphs for the Crusader Orbs and get those made. IIRC you're a ret pally, so you'd be looking at Titanium Razorplate (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47644) and Titanium Spikeguards (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47645).

Even more exposure!

3D model viewer (http://www.wowhead.com/?blog=139950)

You can now view your toons in the 3D model viewer on the Armory.
Also, they've provided RSS feeds for your activity log.

I really enjoy the little 'save your pose' feature.

Paladin (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&cn=Morvant).
Death Knight (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&cn=Vaunt)

Now with DRAMATIC POSING ACTION. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Thorgrim)

Dammit, Armory maintenance!


Now I'll never know what Thorgrim did :(

Your pose was so dramatic it took down the armory.

Stofan master of fashion!

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Stofan (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Stofan)

 :ye_gods:

The recent activity tab is also pretty neat.  22 kills of Mal'ganis  :oh_i_see:

I think what that means is you just got your 22nd one, it just increments the count every time.

Yep, that's what it means.

I'm leet, I guess. (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&cn=Merusk)

Yes, I know that.  I was going "gee" at the fact that I've had to sit through the 10 minute opener 22 times (and actually, 23 now since my daily was CoS).

:ye_gods:

I would like to thank you for rectifying my weakening disdain for gnomes.  You have single-handedly made me wish to wipe them all out once more.  (I am so lucky I was feral on my Druid and had mostly matching gear on my DK all throughout BC.)

Wow, bugs.  I promise, Fenjay is NOT a girl.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zul%27jin&n=Fenjay

tree dr00d http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&cn=Terrormind
prot war (unique name!) http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ysondre&cn=Laeoretha
mut rogue http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&cn=Lassiria
destro lock http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&cn=Larsy

@ post above - armory is showing your char a different gender than it actually is? That's weird.

Hm, I'm logged off in that village in Storm Peaks that makes you a Vrykul female. I wonder if that's it.

That'll do it.

Notice that if you have the Children's Week meta achievement and you switch genders in the Vrykul village (or use an Iron Boot Flask if I remember correctly) you'll get a title gained/lost message.

Yeah, if you use the boot flask it switches you to the male title.

Any transformation effect that changes your character's gender, changes their Matron / Patron title to match appropriately.

You can't beat my armory pose (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&cn=Non). You just can't.

You lack the proper 'equipment'.

Either one of them (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&cn=Start).

orc is win

Don't I? (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Windrunner&cn=Tarkah) DON'T I?! (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Sjofn)

This (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Sofi) is my actual favorite, it's very "Look, I've told you a hundred times, FIRE BAD."

Yes, very much in the style of my Paladin's pose (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Wildhammer&cn=Caladein).

Which is in turn like my druid (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Jassan)!

Fuck, Sjofn brings the fire with the dwarftits. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN I WOULD BE TRUMPED.

But turn your orc girl around - gotta show off that ghetto booty.

Nope! (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Kylantha)

(And just to refresh the finally 80 and much less neglected now Kali's profile (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Kalindriel)...)

Psh, get out of here with your NIGHT ELVES and DRAENEI.

COOL KIDS ONLY.  :heartbreak:

My Hordelings are all low level and not very impressive.

Also I love Draenei.  You make me :sad:.

You can't tell me some draenei (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Bort) aren't awesome.

Sup, mon.  (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&cn=Rasix)

I knew Sjofn the Warrior would trump.  :heart:  The only reason I didn't turn my orc around is because I didn't want to totally copy YOUR orc.


Edit: Also, just for Lantyssa, my token draenei shaman (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&cn=Siala).  :heart:

Hahaha, I finally went to look at Rasix's. That's totally awesome.

I've got another high level (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Morinagra)?  I can't believe I've actually healed raids in that gear.  People laugh and point.  Keeps people alive though!

Orcs (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&cn=Traunk) 4 Life! (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&cn=Ygg)

Where are the poses! Fail.

Oh fine!  Made some poses for you!

 :heart:

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sporeggar&cn=Itzena

My Rogue (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&cn=Aryshtarix) and my Death Knight (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&cn=Aryx). Now with poses!

Also, showing some fem troll love with my warrior (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&cn=Yhbt).

Screw Armory poses.. I didn't realize the print shop had gone live.  (Printwarcraft.com) That thing's awesome and much more affordable than those $130 resin figures.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/704172/Senjadra.png)  (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/704172/Merusk%20-%20Scourgeborn.png)

These are my main toons

Brellium, Echo Isles (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Echo+Isles&cn=Brellium)
Lerawr, Echo Isles (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Echo+Isles&cn=Lerawr)