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There are quite a few threads related to music or stuff about particular bands or particular aspects of music on f13, but no active general music thread. Now there is.

I'll start off with something to listen to. This is a Japanese band called Koenjihyakkei (http://www.skingraftrecords.com/bandhtmlpages/koenjipg.html). You could probably call them avant-garde - excessively anal category bores might call them Zeuhl.

Here's a track called Grembo Zavia (http://www.skingraftrecords.com/mp3/LP_MP3/koenjihyakkei2.mp3) from their second album Viva Koenji!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-n-jjLibeXw

Maximum the Hormone is a band I've been listening to almost exclusively for the last few months. I think they're the only band in Japan that's listenable from the first track to the last track on every album they've released.

They do shit with pop and metal that American bands only wish they could do.

That was okay.


Nah... the Japanese underground has a lot of good and way-out-there bands.

I'd have to listen to more, but it seems inspired by Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Edit: listened to some more tracks, and they do rock. They have many types of sounds; Minute Men, Primus, even some Disturbed in there. Hard to really pigeon hole them.

I shuffle a lot of music, but I'll mention someone from Texas: Scott H. Biram (http://www.chimehosting.com/bsr/scotthbiram/private/file_xfer/GraveyardShift/NoWay.mp3). If you like old/alt country and garage-y shit, then check him out.

On the non-Texas note, I guess that anytime is a good time to mention Ted Leo and Pharmacists (http://homepage.mac.com/straykat627/misc/05%20Little%20Dawn.m4a). Kind of feelgood pop punk with a sort of soulfulness to it. Uhh.. Like old Elvis Costello or somethin'.

Repetitive and the vocals just sucked.
Neg. That's Mars Volta: http://youtube.com/watch?v=v2ayKK8E7gc Great live clip from MV: http://youtube.com/watch?v=X6hz_k4xua0 For my money Mars Volta is the best new band to come along in a long time.

You can't really compare the bands; they're trying to do very different things.

Does this thread have any rules?  I'd love to discuss music, but I'm not very current on new acts. 

You're wrong and your taste has moved from reasonable to questionable.

That Maximum reminded me of Limp Bizkit before Bizkit started to suck, mixed with a little bit of someone who can sing. Not bad.

If I wasn't at work, I'd link to a lot of their other shit. Quite literally, having listened to nearly every band that ever hailed from Japan, Maximum is absolutely, no questions, by far, the best one.

I lasted about 12s with those vocals.  I'm not saying the band isn't good, I'm just saying that the singing vocal style isn't my thing. 

:roll:

Because there is a right and wrong when it comes to opinion, now. It's fine you think they're great. I think they suck. You should know by now that rarely do our opinions match up.

And I'm definitely with Nebu. If someone is going to do some screechy yell, it's instantly turned off. Shut the fuck up and learn how to sing. I did try to check out some of their other stuff. Sampled four different songs, all repetetive, all with shitty vocals.

Of course, Nebu and I wouldn't have qualified opinions.  :-P

Neg.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R9dWMhSJq0c

Band fight!

Posting YouTube links is not fair during working hours, I would assume most of us have YouTube blocked.

That looked like some awesome fun there.  Goes to show that even if I can't understand a word of what was said (except the 1-2-3 part, LOL! counting in English) the music is completely universal. 

That seems unlikely, or you wouldn't have picked a nu-metal band. :) Yellow Magic Orchestra, Acid Mothers Temple and the Melting Paraiso UFO, Ruins, KBB, Ars Nova?

Rules? It has to be related to music. There's a thread for guitar players, and a thread for live music, but this is anything goes... provided its about music.


Edit: The Scott H. Biram was cool, thanks.

Sky: TMV are indeed one of the better recents bands 'over here'. When their music isn't being mastered hot and flat by idiots.

My current indie pet favorite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakalope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakalope) described as a Canadian Industrial/Pop act.

Thier myspace has a couple songs on it: http://www.myspace.com/jakalope (http://www.myspace.com/jakalope)

So that's where Phil Caivano went (I like me some Monster Magnet). You can hear Reznor all over that sound. Pretty good.

Keep it coming peoples.  I need new music.  So damn tired of what I have.

Although, I can listen to Sleater Kinney (http://www.sleater-kinney.com/) all fucking day.

I can't give anyone any new music except perhaps Muse, if that counts.  Most of the stuff I listen to is Bowie, but since Father's Day I have an iPod Nano and have branched out to some other stuff.  That includes Muse's Black Holes and Beck's Odelay.  I tend to listen to complete albums in repeat for weeks at a time, and the one I am listening to now is ...And Justice For All.  I think that after this one, I will possibly switch off to Bowie's Low as a cooldown in a few weeks, but Low never lasts long before I have to move up to Lodger or something.

Although listening to early Metallica after all this time makes me consider finding other metal favorites and really going off into it again.

I bought Mars Volta's first album because I loved the single that I'm not even going to bother trying to spell right now.  I remember the first two tracks making one good song, and something like track 12 also being a song, and everything in the middle being little more than a jumble of sounds.

Also, the Maximum the Hormone guy stops yelling and starts singing eventually.  And at least three of the band members have good singing voices.  Did you even get to the part where the drummer sings?  Granted, I don't like the yelling either, but they do great things with hooks that would make some of America's pop songwriters jealous.

Cool :) He kicks even more ass live.. The guy's a one man band.

My current favourites include:

Porcupine Tree (http://www.porcupinetree.com/) sophisticated rock: mixes mainstream rock, pop, progressive rock
LCD Soundsystem (http://www.lcdsoundsystem.com/) clever dance-rock mix, with influences all over the art rock world
Spoon (http://www.spoontheband.com/) one of the best pop bands in the US
Pure Reason Revolution (http://www.myspace.com/purereasonrevolution) ... live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud4TfkYVs0I) prog rock with a new sound and great vocals
Burnt Friedman & Jaki Liebezeit (http://nonplace.de/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8&Itemid=72) ... live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiLJKFA3gdU) Jaki has been the greatest drummer in the world (IMO) for a long time - this recent pairing is superb - sometimes jazzy, sometimes ambient, sometime hypnotic
Isis (http://www.isistheband.com/Home.aspx) ... live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x7Ez7yCyA8) heavy, mixes drones and grooves to produce something different (some people call it 'post metal': weak)

In an effort to get my collection out of the distant past, I'm really searching for something that combines the Joy Division sound with older Sonic Youth (Daydream Nation or earlier) and maybe really early Bauhaus (Telegram Sam > Bella Lugosi's Dead).

I'm not looking for goth crap. Today, I heard something on the local alt rock station that sounded pretty cool, but the band name sounded like "Pretentious Goth Band."

Is it so hard to find that stuff? I kind of get an MC5-inspired fix from stuff like Jet, but damn.

I'm fully admitting here that I'm a codger who has a massive LP/cassette/CD collection and am at a loss for new stuff to get.

Franz Ferdinand?

Have you tried She Wants Revenge (http://www.shewantsrevenge.com/)? Definitely both Joy Division and Bauhaus influences there. You should listen to LCD Soundsystem linked above - they've covered Joy Division in their live shows... and while they don't sound like that, their fusion of influences may interest you, since they have that post-punk sound going on. Also perhaps Bloc Party (http://www.blocparty.com/), TV On The Radio (http://www.tvontheradio.com/) and The Warlocks (http://www.myspace.com/thewarlocks) (the current band by that name).

On the poppier side, sure. Along with Hot Hot Heat, Kaiser Chiefs, The Strokes, etc.

Hey guys.

It's all about the Passion of Lovers.

Also, Peter Murphy's Cascade.

Oh, and She Wants Revenge only has two good tracks. And they're both on their first single. ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

I've been on a Giant Drag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkgIek73vGU) kick lately.

I enjoyed that album. I go back to his early Dali's Car effort more, but then I adore Mick Karn's distinctive fretless bass playing.

They were boring as shit live.  Sure, the one guy was climbing the stageworks 10-15ft in the air and singing, but the songs were still boring and some goofy stage antics do not make up for that.  I do find it funny they decided to release a song where the chorus is Fucking Tear You Apart.  The rest of the album wasn't great.

I've been listening to the new Bad Religion album and Patti Smith alot lately.  I completed most of my Frank Zappa album collection, so now it's hard to find anything of his at the stores when I go to look that I don't already have.  I'm old and jaded regarding music so it is hard to find things that interest me that I don't listen to and think "done in 1985, better" or "ripped off from a 1974 release" which is kind of a dickhead thing to do.

I still can't tolerate screaming angst or cookie monster vocals.  Those get turned off any time I hear them in a song (with the exception of Carcass).

Isn't She Wants Revenge the one where every single song has a repetitive two-minute intro before anything really happens?

The new Gym Class Heroes album is great, considering it's hip-hop.  I've hated every hip-hop album I've listened to in the last 7 years, but I can listen to their whole album and enjoy myself.

Rush just released another album, for you old-timers, but I personally haven't enjoyed any of their new stuff since Test for Echo in the mid-90s.

Mike Doughty is pretty awesome too, former front-man for Soul Coughing.

How does any of that get you out of the past?  (http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/confused0014.gif)

Not really what you're looking for, but there's this band I like from NYC called A Place to Bury Strangers (http://www.box.net/shared/static/7m05s6i1mg.mp3) (no, that sound file isn't fucked up. They just intentionally try to deafen people with reverb). Real shoegaze-y and Joy Division like, but Sonic Youth? Not so much.

I don't know, check out their myspace page (http://www.myspace.com/aplacetoburystrangers). More tracks there. Might be up your alley actually.

Speaking of Joy Division, there's another great band...that umm...isn't really what you're looking for either. Haha. GVSB (Girls Against Boys). Kind of hard to categorize when you put all of their albums together, but they did do a cover of She's Lost Control (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgsCmekHUIg) that was cool. Otherwise, they sound like a cross between the Jesus Lizard, Revolting Cocks, except poppier and with two bass players.

===Random Shit===

Lets see...

The Von Bondies. Why they never got popular, I don't know. They had publicity (err....kinda...Jack White kicked the singer's ass not long ago), and they even had that catchy title track on Rescue Me. That being said, I just like them because the guy can scream his ass off (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/25/1209654/01%20Pawn%20Shoppe%20Heart.mp3). And sounds like he means it. It's typical Detroit garage rock, but one of the better bands, I think.

Neko Case. Since I posted Scott Biram, I might as well post an Alt Country chick. If You Knew (http://media.anti.com/neko_case/the_tigers_have_spoken/If_You_Knew.mp3), Blacklisted (http://www.taoofcoffee.com/blacklist.mp3)

===New Albums===

Shannon Wright. If you like chicks with pianos. Hinterland (http://www.knowwave.com/shannonwright/hinterland.mp3), Everybody's Got Their Own Part to Play (http://www.touchandgorecords.com/media/3779.mp3)

I already spazzed out about Mike Patton in that other thread, but Tomahawk came out with a new album this month. Not very accessible really, but it's interesting. Mainly because I think it may be the first time someone's actually merged Native American music with rock/metal correctly (yes, there have been native american "flavored" bands...But they've all been really blues heavy. Either that, or they sound like new age crap).

Example: Red Fox (http://kradradio.com/04%20Red%20Fox.mp3)

And if you haven't heard Tomahawk's older stuff, they sound like this: Rape This Day (http://www.ipecac.com/archives/previews/tomahawk-rape_this_day.mp3), Mayday (http://homepage.mac.com/straykat627/mike_patton_samples/mayday.mp3)

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K, enough band pimping from me for now :)

Snakes And Arrows. Its a great album. Signals/Grace Under Pressure great. Beats everything they did between then and now.

These kids do some seriously fucked up shit. Ministry meets Chili Peppers meets Primus doing Metallica covers with Gwen Stefani and Pink doing cameos/producing. On every song!

That's like 1 album of original material and 1 cover album.  Probably just easier to say no one likes Vapor Trails since Snakes & Arrows is one of two since 1996.

Power Windows and Hold Your Fire were far far better than Grace Under Pressure.

By hopefully including albums made in the last five years as opposed to twenty? 

We can agree to disagree on what constitutes a good singing voice, then. Yes, I endured a few entire songs. I don't believe their hooks are that great, either. I found it pretty bland and repetitive. Anyway, that's it for my commentary on that. I obviously don't like it at all.

I also wish Mars Volta would put less atmospheric stuff in their albums. So does anyone not on large amounts of narcotics.

Franz is good. I like My Morning Jacket, Cafe Tacuba, The Slackers, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy for newer poppier bands.
I always try to keep an open mind toward music. If someone can bring something new to a song, I love it. You certainly shouldn't bag on someone for ripping off old music. Listening to the blues is a great perspective builder. Not only does everyone jam on a lot of classics, but you learn that as shocking as Robert Plant was in the sixties with juice running down his leg, how much more shocking it must've been in the 30s when Robert Johnson, a black man in Mississippi, did it. But, Zep brought something new to the table. George Thorogood also does a great Kind Hearted Woman Blues, a Robert Johnson song.

I have a playlist in iTunes called Same Tunes. I put in all the duplicate versions of songs from different bands. It's pretty cool, one of my fiancee's favorite. Born Under A Bad Sign done by Albert King (original, imo best) then Cream (who I don't care for much) then Hendrix (which is a great version but more repetitive with Band of Gypsies iirc). Or a blues classic like Dust My Broom: Robert Johnson, Sonny Boy II, Elmore James, Earl Hooker, Howlin' Wolf, Taj Mahal.

I just got a phenomenal version of The Weight. I don't even have the original. This one is the Allman Brothers Band (maybe the best touring band in the world right now) from Jazzfest this year in New Orleans, with Chuck Leavell and Susan Tedeschi. Nice thing about the Allman's shows is that you can get a mixed cd of the gig after the show, and it's worth getting because they change things up every night. Another version of The Weight is from the State Fair a couple years ago (ABB); and Aretha; and Derek Trucks Band doing it live.

Oh yeah, Susan Tedeschi. She fucking rocks. Derek Trucks Band is very interesting. I like Los Lonely Boys, they have some great chops (and can sing). I just got an incredible Kenny Wayne Sheppard album where he spends ten days in the south recording with old blues acts, Ten Days Out. Guy Davis is doing some great acoustic work. Otis Taylor has some pretty interesting stuff. Zen Guerrilla was a great mid-90s band, don't know if they're still around. Tomahawk is a pretty good band, more accessible than most of what Patton's been up to, not quite as accessible as most Faith No More (which was an incredible band). Can't mention mid-90s and Patton without mentioning the Melvins (not that Patton was in the Melvins!). Can't mention mid-90s without mentioning Kyuss. Also been listening to more Tom Waits, thanks to Stray for turning me onto him.

For heavier stuff, you of course have Black Label Society. System of a Down is still pretty good. Even though their vocals are shouty, I like High on Fire (and Sleep, from whence HoF came).

About shouty vs non shouty lyrics, I think there's a developmental cut off point after which you'll just simply not really be able to stomach shouty stuff if you've not enjoyed at least a little bit of it by the time you're 25 or so. If your ideas of what 'hard rock' are were formed listening exclusively to Iron Maiden, chances are Rage Against the Machine is going to sound like so much rancid hollering. I can respect that, since in the punk/headbanger musical continuum, you're simply going to favor clean sounding vocalists.

I consider myself lucky enough that I can enjoy 'classic' vocalists such as Chris Cornell while still flipping a switch in my brain and listening to Ministry.

I didn't particularly enjoy what people are calling shouty UNTIL Maximum the Hormone. I'm 25.

Also, I enjoy Bella Morte. But I don't think they count as "shouty" except for like 2 or 3 old tracks and one newer one.

Well, it was a theory pulled out my linty arse crack at 7:30 in the morning with only 1/2 cup of coffee in my system. Like so many other of my illuminating posts at this time of day. Seriously, I floated that theory based purely on personal experience; I used to be a 'hard rock' 'heavy metal' guy through my teens and it took a while of adjustment for me to appreciate the 'punk' side of hard rock. I was in my early 20s before I could even stand the Pixies, but now I acknowledge them as revolutionary talent the likes of which we're not likely to see again in our life time.

This discussion is ridiculous, we're discussing music with people who ACTUALLY listen to The Mars Volta, it's like discussing which place makes the best hamburger with vegans.

Wow, ok, that makes the second time I've heard The Slackers described as "newer" or "popp[y]." When I did the punk & ska show at U of A back in the mid-90s, there was a ska band called The Slackers, but they weren't even the poppier third wave ska or skacore/ska fusion stuff.

Maybe this is one of those "same name as" situations.

That might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen you write here.
I just slipped that name in there while typing later. No, they aren't new nor particularly poppy, though I consider them more pop than a lot of stuff I listen to. I'd like to cover The Mummy. I've got three or four of their discs, got turned onto them by the (excellent) Give 'Em The Boot compilations. Also got into some King Django from those discs, but he's not as good as The Slackers imo. The one disc with Information Error is phenomenal.

(Includes MySpace links, for those allergic to peanuts and stupid.)

My favorite new band of the last two years is Hammock (http://www.hammockmusic.com/), a kind-of shoegazer band from Tennessee.

Ulrich Schnauss (http://www.myspace.com/ulrichschnauss) is what happens when you filter shoegazer through electronic dance.

Manual  (http://www.myspace.com/jonasmunk) is what happens when you filter shoegazer through IDM (see a trend?) Jonas Munk is also one of the most prolific artists I listen to, releasing at least one album under his own name every year, plus collaborations with like-minded fellow Danes.

Solar Fields (http://profile.myspace.com/solarfields), my favorite brand of space music. Or really anything off the Ultimae label.

Wait... are we making the hamburger out of the vegans?

Goddamn you got me: it's like discussing WITH vegans WHICH place makes the best hamburgers.

There are few opinions someone can harbor which give you carte blanche in any argument they bring up, one of these is they listen to 'The Mars Volta' (works best for musical arguments, doesn't work so well in other situations).

Actually, it works shitty in musical "arguments", because Mars Volta is an extremely talented band. Just because they like to put a lot of atmospheric crap between their songs doesn't alter that fact. The rhythym section alone is godlike, and the singer is Geddy Lee reborn.

Between Grace Under Pressure and Snake And Arrows. Everything Rush did in the 90s and much of what they did in the 80s.

I disagree, but then I don't have a problem with FM synth sounds. Power Windows was the last album prior to Snakes And Arrows to be decent overall, but it didn't hold up to anything before it. After Power Windows their songwriting got patchy, and they failed to put out albums worth listening to without the aid of the track skip button.

This from the guy who watched the first two seasons of the OC in a week?  Yes, I'm revisiting this argument.  And now I'm using it against you.  Hah!

Here we go (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWTLgBkw5fI). The great bass playing that I was talking about.

I've got it and all of their work.  The new cd reminds me of the vapor trails era which was solid but not their peak.  While they were at their height of popularity during the Spirit of Radio - Moving Pictures - Signals - Grace under pressure, I've always held Circumstances as my favorite.  I need to check out some fresh stuff.  Lately it's been Dylan, Neil Young, Zepplin, Rush, and Triumph that I've been stuck on.  Yes, I have a soft spot for Canadian power trios.  

If you enjoy great fretless bass, I encourage you to give THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Jaco-Pastorius/dp/B000MQ55NE/ref=sr_1_1/002-7436150-9492000?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185917939&sr=8-1) a try.  I can't think of any bassist that has done more to evolve the fretless bass than Jaco. 

Pino Palladino has also done some outstanding fretless work, but usually for other people.  Find some gems by looking over his discography. 

I'll check that to see if there's anything I don't have on it. I have most of his albums with Weather Report and his solo albums. The most recent Pastorius related album I got was this one (http://www.amazon.com/Word-Mouth-Revisited-Jaco-Pastorius/dp/B0000ALFYE/ref=sr_1_7/103-7464113-3575037?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185918286&sr=1-7). Lots of great bassists celebrating Pastorius.

I'm actually more of a Bootsy Collins or Stanley Clarke fan, but if anyone mentions fretless Jaco always jumps to mind.  I have to confess that I don't own nearly as much Weather Report stuff as I'd like to.  That will give me something to work on. 

Oh, have you listened to much Dream Theater?  While not fretless, they have an outstanding technical bassist.  The song "Caught in a Web" is a solid example.

Jaco is one of my favorites, along with Mick Karn (ex Japan), Percy Jones (ex Brand X), Victor Wooten (Bela Fleck & The Flecktones), Holger Czukay (ex CAN), Jah Wobble (ex PIL), Bill Laswell (Material) ... but Bootsy & Stanley Clarke are up there too. :)

John Myung of Dream Theater is pretty spectacular - as are all the people in band. Their music tends to be a bit too self-indulgent for me though.

No worries, I used it last week.

Mars Volta is still Terrible.

I stand by their first two tracks on the first album.

Oh I never have a problem with new music, even if it is an homage to the past considering a good majority of Led Zeppelin was covers of previously done bluesworks along with most other artists of the day doing the same thing.  I just get annoyed when I hear a band or artist use a piece of music from the past and either the artist or all of their fans go apeshit about how "new" and "fresh" it is when it was done by some guy 30-70 years ago (and better in some\most cases).  There are plenty of bands out there I can get into that are new, my tastes just change and not much that was "popular" was anything I cared about (Slipknot, Korn, Mudvayne, Maroon 5, Matchbox 20, etc).  I've been subjected to the local jazz station in the waiting room a while and yes I can respect the talent of some of the artists and how interesting their works sound from the 1930s and 1940s all the way to today, I just am not into that scene so I won't go out of my way to listen to it.  Alot of blues is the same way, amazing talent that I can only dream of even if some of it is simplistic at times, but it just doesn't do that much for me on record (live concerts are a different issue entirely though).

As far as screamy goes, I can listen to most punk and hardcore and not be offended at all despite the lack of vocal talents.  Rage Against the Machine was great on their first 2 albums as well.  I get annoyed when I hear a band like Cannibal Corpse or Six Feet Under "growling" and all I can make out is "gruntgruntwooofwoofwoofgrunt."  Why even bother with a fucking "singer" if you can't understand anything he says.  99% of black metal is the same way (Emperor, etc) but they also have their own problems where they deem shitty production as being KVLT when in reality it is just shitty production.  Some bands\singers just have "it" when it comes to their vocals and being angry or violent.  In my opinion, Rage Against the Machine had it, W.A.S.P. had it, Cowboys From Hell era Pantera had it, Slayer has it, Arch Enemy (pre Angela) had it.  Bands like Emperor, Amon Amarth, Nile, Cannibal Corpse, and Hatebreed just don't.  Music is a very personal thing you know ;-)

Two Hours Traffic: (Canadian powerpop)

Jezebel:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZHamTXys0

Stuck For The Summer:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JF_SKOomJU


Schneider TM: German Electronica

Reality Check:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyyogSmyxto

Frogtoise:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r42LB1heL8


The Bird and The Bee: Jazzy Electronica

Again and Again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDlEXQaMBpk


Mark Ronson: Britpop


Stop Me:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4kBr5WWiBM

 

Also, this is quite a classic:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od5inlXSSp4

While I might put Hold Your Fire on the same plane as Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows was most definitely not a better album than Grace. The only weak album I think Rush has done since their first was Counterparts.

That was some decent bass. Vocals were ok, if a bit 80s new wavey for me. I thought the rest of the track was pretty crappy, but I'm not a big fan of synths or those 'drums'.

I can appreciate most of the bassists you guys are talking about. I'm more from the Geezer (http://youtube.com/watch?v=EvuI8d57N9I&mode=related&search=) Butler (http://youtube.com/watch?v=E9gokjOjf6g&mode=related&search=), Steve (http://youtube.com/watch?v=e6AvHAdXz3A&mode=related&search=) Harris (http://youtube.com/watch?v=kCEfqDadlyo), Cliff Burton (http://youtube.com/watch?v=cK2hruTkUVA) school. Coming from a rock/metal/blues place, I place a good jam over technicality every time.

Bootsy is cool, of course, but for that era I'd lean more toward Duck Dunn or some of the less-famous bass players from the early funk/r&b era like Alphonso "Country" Kellum who played on my favorite James Brown disc, Say It Live and Loud.

Selby: Phil Anselmo, despite being an apparent douchebag, has one of the very best metal voices. have you checked out any of the Superjoint stuff, or Down? Good stuff.

You know I love Duck Dunn and I agree that there are some fantastic bassists that have gone under the radar.  What's funny is that I often tell people that John Paul Jones is possibly my favorite bass player of all time and they look at me oddly.  Talk about technical skill, innovation, and feel all in one package.   

*cough* At the Drive In (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_the_Drive-In)

Apparently this is the band that spawned The Mars Volta, so I find them guilty by association.

The new rhythym section is crushing. ATDI was cool, though. Different vibe entirely.

Check out Michael Manring for more fretless bass. 

Damn you, Sky.  Now I just spent almost an hour watching Maiden videos on YouTube instead of doing work.   :inluv:  Steve Harris made me realize that bass players could be just as cool as guitar players. 

Nick Black Band (http://www.myspace.com/nickblackband) - from Detroit, found them through a GitS AMV some guy made using their music. That's their myspace page link.

My 2c on screaming vocals - I just like to be able to understand that words are being said, to be honest.  I don't have to understand the words at all (which means other languages are fine), but it should sound like something more than long winded primal scream therapy gone wrong.  Which reminds me, back to Maiden, Bruce Dickinson's got some damn good breathing control.  Some singers couldn't hold a long note to save their lives, or they sound like they are out of breath while singing. 

Screamo is for the emotionally crippled.

Just passing the time wasting along. Making that post took about two hours as in between actually working I was watching Maiden and Sabbath videos. Not many good Cliff videos :( I was going to split his name into two links, too, with the second being Call of Ktulu or Orion. My band didn't really do covers, but we covered a couple Cliff-era songs, Orion, Master of Puppets, and Fade to Black for our first bass player who died at 16.

Watching Cliff inspired me to go home and play bass, the results of which are over in the guitar thread if you're into that.

On Dickinson, he was a fencer and soccer player (as was at least Steve Harris). My singer worshipped Bruce, vocally, and used to do a sporty stuff (he jogged and we used to spar) for lung capacity. You really have to work hard to get even close to that level of power and sustain, and even Bruce would get winded at shows quite often.

Last time I saw them live (2003) Bruce still had amazing control, especially considering he was running all around the stage and jumping off of the risers.  It was a sight to behold.  I can only dream of ever having that kind of control.

About shouty music, to me Rage Against the Machine is not shouty at all. I consider shouty something like the band Death.

Iron Maiden rules. I love bands where I can listen to a single instrument for the entire song and really fixate on it. The bass is like that in some IM songs, as are the drums in Dream Theater songs.

Rage Against The Machine is like the most influential band of the 90s.  Of Course they rule.  I just saw them in NYC for Rock The Bells.  It was so intense, and then they called Bush and Cheney and Fox News fascists.  It was so rock and roll.

How much of that is green?

I love bands where the entire band is playing something interesting enough to listen to for the whole song. That's why I don't get the Mars Volta hate. They fucking rock. You people are weird. You might as well say early Rush sucks.

http://www.moceanworker.com/

OK, i just like the video.

Were there DJs involved in that? It sounded very synthetic, there wasn't a good natural groove to it. It wasn't awful, I did like a few of the horn lines, but again, it sounded fake. Cool video.

Heh, edit after my post ftw!

I've heard this one somewhere before.. I like the music fine, but that video was cooler than the music :)

http://www.moceanworker.com/videos/right-now

You're right about the synthetic sound. There isn't a lot of groove.

Hey, I didn't say anything about Mars Volta, I have no idea what they sound like. And yes, obviously I like songs where the whole song is great, I was just making the point that it's extra special to be able to zone in a single instrument for the entire song.

Yes - I heard some Michael Manring recently, and I need to get some more. Quite different from the wacky slippery style of Mick Karn or Percy Jones, but pretty brilliant playing. Butler, Harris & Burton. Good stuff. I've seen them all live. 8-)

Which is my entire thought process for music.  If I like the song, who cares who wrote it and whatnot?  A good song to me is still a good song.  Some bands just don't get to be "good" song writers or performers.

As far as not liking music because it is hip or cool not to, I was like that when I was 15 too.  I got over what other people thought of my musical tastes a long time ago (I got enough questions asking when I was going to carve "Slayer" into my arms it almost became their signature greeting to me with most people).

I would counter with "knowing stuff is cool." I really enjoy learning about the history of different bands and performers and what links them, and it has a practical advantage of helping you find similar stuff you might like.

Since you all seem to know WAY more about music than I do, I've a question.  I don't like buying albums without knowing I'll like the material within, so how the hell do you find out about all these other bands?

  Given that the only radio I can listen to locally is Clear-Channel owned and run, their playlist is maybe 100 songs. Given that it's also a hard rock station, most of those songs are 20+ years old.  It's certainly widened my appreciation for stuff I ignored when I was younger (because the only stations I listened to then played 80's pop)  like Zep and AC/DC, but it sure as hell doesn't broaden my musical horizons.

Also, anyone got some stuff similar to Monster Magnet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxnpmvuRo8E)?  That's a live version of one of my favorite songs, but most folks know them for Space Lord (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6iPi2aauu0) which I've heard pop-up in a few different movies.  Great vocals, awesome riffs without being too damn repetitive and lyrics I dig - which is usually important, since if I can't understand the song I usually can't enjoy it.

I was referencing other posters, sorry.

Righ: I've seen 'em all, too. So glad I got to see Burton, especially.

Merusk: I use a combination of tools. Allmusic.com is a good start. LIke say I'm digging some Buddy Guy, I'll go look at people he's jammed with. He jammed heavily with Junior Wells, who I hit up some previews (on allmusic or amazon), and he's incredible. So I grab some Wells albums. Then I hit up the Credits tab and I can see who played on the album.

A lot of time they'll tell you about former bands that band members come from or bands they splinter into. Or they'll list some influences or similar artists. Finally, they also list stuff they think is similar through their algorithm. Amazon also starts to get decent about recommending things, but it takes them a long time and it's a bit work intensive to 'train' their site imo.

Finally, there are some great streaming music apps out there. Pandora alone got me several dozen albums. You enter an artist or song name, and it plays stuff it thinks is similar. You then give each track a thumbs up or thumbs down and train it on what you like.

Monster Magnet. Have you checked out the Melvins or Kyuss? Two of my favorite heavier bands. Demon Cleaner is sick. I need to go listen to some Kyuss right now, I think.

Merusk, I would also recommend playing with pandora. It manages to expose you to stuff you'd not heard of before based on your prior tastes. Its a little hit or miss, but on the whole, you get a good selection of stuff you've not heard of.

So do you guys play with Pandora at work then? Kinda kills it for me, since our internet is locked down from any sort of streaming.  Hell, I've gotten the "stay off the internet" warning just for posting on F13 at lunch.

Thanks for the heads up tho, I'll check out those bands and add Pandora to my bookmarks so I actually remember to play around with it this time.  I know it's been mentioned here before, I just forgot about it.

Well, considering its my first week at my new job, nope, I will not be pulling up Pandora at work. Heh.

Yeah, I have quite a lot of stuff that sounds akin to Monster Magnet. They were significantly influenced (and covered a few songs by) the kings of the heavy acid space rock sound: Hawkwind. You may well like Fu Manchu, Orange Goblin, and (the related) Atomic Bitchwax. Kyuss was a good call too. There's a nice online store that specializes is 'stoner' / 'doom' rock:

http://www.stonerrock.com/store/ath.asp

I do this religiously about a band I get interested in.  I want to know all about the members, lineups, and history.  Mostly because I don't want to be seen as a moron who only likes one song from them.  Finding out who influenced a band is the quickest way to discover other music that you may like.

As for finding new music, I've used this site (http://www.bnrmetal.com/) for almost 10 years to locate different bands and track members of their various projects and get an idea of what others out there in the field are listening to.

http://www.rockdetector.com/ is pretty good for mainstream rock and metal
http://www.progarchives.com/ is great for all things arty

We just got this album (http://www.amazon.com/Back-Black-Amy-Winehouse/dp/B000N2G3RY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-1888116-1361200?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1186250180&sr=8-1) in the mail. After you get past the first track ("Rehab," which is WAY overplayed on local radio), the rest of the album is quite good. There are a couple of tracks that rely on a very minimal instrumental track, which doesn't work as well as it could -- she's not an Aretha or a Nina Simone. But yeah, a darn good album.

It came with the soundtrack to The Harder They Come (http://www.amazon.com/Harder-They-Come-Jimmy-Cliff/dp/B00005LZWR/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-1888116-1361200?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1186250356&sr=1-1), which is also quite good if you like reggae/first wave ska.

Personally, I just make it a point to hang out with people who have diverse tastes in music.  Most of the bands I listen to now are groups that friends have recommended, played in their car, etc.

Also, CMJ magazine is great.  Every month they send you a CD with songs from brand new albums, and a lot of the artists are groups you would never hear of otherwise.

Another fun band in my opinion.

BLOC PARTY

Kinda hard to categorize. Sometimes upbeat and ska-punk like, sometimes Morrisey-ish, sometimes as dance poppy as Pink (lol).

Helicopter (http://www.gigarock.com/music/helicopter.mp3)

The Prayer (http://music-versity.typepad.com/musicversity_hub/files/01_the_prayer.mp3)

Positive Tension (http://www.pharaohweb.com/blog/audio/03PositiveTension.mp3)

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I only say that because the singer is British and can hit high notes. And I'm just being silly. He's really nothing like Morrissey. For one, he's Black.... :)

[EDIT] What really got me to say that is some of the song structure with their ballads (so to speak). To be serious though, they're like a strange cross between Coldplay and Gang of Four. With a lot of Bush bashing inbetween.


ANYWAYS...

I've been trying to think of more abrasive or "experimental" stuff to post, but I give up. I'm just going to keep posting these poppy bands. I've come to the conclusion that catchy tunes are the truly experimental ones -- because the easiest, least experimental thing to do as a musician is sound like shit and not write any hooks at all.

Amen.  I need music with a healthy pop sensibility. 

None of it.

I can agree with this. I love bands that jam, I tend not to like jam bands. I mean, I can listen to them and dig the instrumentation, but I just can't get into them or buy an album or anything. There's no framework. There's no good songwriting. Someone like Moe or String Cheese Incident, they jam. But they're boring imo. On the other hand, I can watch a twelve minute song by the Allman Brothers Band (modern or classic) and be into it the whole time. Same with Mars Volta, they have interesting hooks in their music to go back to and ground the jammy parts.

I was referring mostly to "Rage Against The Machine is like the most influential band of the 90s." Although giving it more thought that might be more accurate than I first thought. It doesn't seem like grunge bands have had a lasting influence compared to shouty rap-metal.

Slacker Rock?   I think that's what it's called, the 20-somethings in the office listen to lots of it.  Foo Fighters & Cake & White Stripes & other such bands whose names escape my Rock-N-Roll memory.

"Slacker rock"? Do you just say that because the young guys working for you are simply just slackers? :)


I don't really think there's any style or sound that had heavy influence from the 90's. Musicially, people are tapping into all kinds of things these days. Though I'll say that the whole lo-fi/garage thing that was happening in the 90's (Pavement, JSBX/Pussy Galore, whatever Steve Albini engineered, etc..) inspired a lot of new bands to go in that direction, production wise. For some reason, having a more stripped down sound finally got popular.

Metal wise: the Melvins, Helmet, Tool, and Prong spawned a thousand imitators.

I like RATM and all, but I really don't see their "impact". Just like I don't see Nirvana's. Hell, I think Radiohead changed more things than they did.

Of all the big bands from the early 90's,  Nirvana and Pearl Jam probably had the least impact despite garnering the most critical and popular acclaim.  Unless you date pop-punk to emerging with Nirvana rather than Green Day.  Pearl Jam was/is just too much of a good 70's hard rock/guitar band,  rather then a new take.  Nirvana was too idiosyncratic.  Just doesn't work without the same people and bizarre artistic taste.

RATM finished up the establishment of rap-rock that Anthrax and Rollins and Ice T spearheaded,  which lead to everything churned out in the late 90's in that genre. 

Metal wise,  I'd put Soundgarden and Alice-in-Chains at the top of the modern metal influences,  outside of the massively heavy stuff. 

I'm not talking just musically but politically.  Specifically, the 2000 DNC.  Nobody as big as they are really has the balls to do and say what they say.  And to say RATM wasn't musically influential is pretty dimwitted imo, but whatever.  I think they're the forerunner for most influential band of the 90s.  And I'm not the biggest Nirvana guy ever, but they weren't exactly nonentities.  Grunge was popular for like a decade.  I mean Jesus.

Nope, that's what the burned CD of songs is labeled. Then there's "Emo songs for Emo Kids" and "I don't know, a bunch of crap"

I've always seen Faith No More listed as one of the rap-rock spear-headers. First time I've seen Anthrax or Rollins listed that way.

If you don't mean musically, then it's a pretty meaningless subject for me to talk about here. It has nothing to do with taking anything away from them. They were good bands. But musically speaking, there just aren't that many people taking their cues from them. Besides that, no one else is going to sound like Tom Morello even if they tried.

Tom Morello is a good guitar player who intentionally plays bad.

There is no most influential rock band in the 90s. Everything is evolution in that period, still is. The 80s was the last revolutionaty period of metal, imo.

The only influential music in the 90s was fucking rap. When is that goddamned trend going to die and Lay-Z going to finally go away? What the fuck does Diddy do, anyway?

Merusk: I'm the Man. Started it all.

That's because the U.S. Department of Retro (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29830) has been putting limits on recent-past using.

Oops, I meant Bring the Noise (http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoLkaGcpJFA). That really set the shit alight. The Anthrax/Public Enemy crossover.

The Nina The Pinta The Santa Maria!

I figured that's where he was going with Anthrax, but Faith No More's first 'big' (Which included "We Care A Lot" - featured in the Mike Rowe "Dirty Jobs" commercials) album predates "Bring The Noise" by almost over 4 years.  "Epic," which was their biggest single, was a hit in 1990, but the album (iirc) was 1989.   The Antrax/ Public Enemy version of Bring The Noise came out in 1991.

Clearly, you're all wrong. It was the Aerosmith-RunDMC version of Walk This Way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8A0rhVG91U) that kicked it all off.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. And I'm the Man came out in the 80s.

No way y'all. This is the first rap/rock crossover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srgi2DkDbPU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srgi2DkDbPU)

Seriously though.. Here's a cool one from umm.. '88, I think. Bad Brains -- With the Quickness (http://home.comcast.net/~dick_fitzwell/WiththeQuickness.mp3) More like a Rasta/Funk/Rap/Metal/Punk crossover though ;)

Seeing that video gave me a bad flashback to MTV when it had videos. There was an INXS video where they used that "cards with words" theme.

This has really turned into the "a bunch of guys in their early to mid 30's reliving highschool music"-thread.  Next thing you know,  we'll be talking about who would win in a fight:  Chris Cornell or Danzig.

Actually, the correct question is Henry Rollins or Danzig. ;)


Anywho.. Fuck highschool music. The only thing I can still stand from then is Slick Rick. Haha. Just about everything I've posted here is local or new though :)

True, but I'll always like RATM.  And I don't think the emphasis should be on "who was first."  The emphasis should be on who did it well enough to get other people to notice.

I agree with you Duse. RATM deserves a lot of props in their little domain. There were hints of all of that rap rock shit going on long ago, but I still remember a time when me and my bro were driving around one day, way back in the early 90's (I wasn't even 16 I think, and he was already in his 20's), "Know Your Enemy" popped on the radio and we just about shit. Someone finally made it all click. We went to buy an album right away.

[EDIT] Still don't think they were influential though, sonically speaking ;)

Trick question... Lemmy IS god?

Oh, I didn't know we were talking about Slayer, Maiden and Mercyful Fate. I'm apparently older than the majority of the thread.

Most of the music I listen to nowadays spans all recorded music, I have a lot of discs from the 20s-00s. The advent of CDs has really opened up the past in a way that wasn't really possible when I was younger.

RUSH... Nuff' said!

Not sure if this qualifes as big news, or even the right thread, but a tour announcement is being made Monday regarding a Van Halen reunion tour sans Michael Anthony, who is being sub'd by Wolfgang Van Halen.  So, sort of a reunion tour.

Anyway, Eddie is back out of rehab. 

After / Before picture
(http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/3/2/9/0/14270923-14270925-large.jpg)

Had to be a combination of alcohol, and especially crystal meth.  His teeth were about to fall out of his head.

Good to see you back looking healthy, Eddie.  You were a god back when I was a teenager.

Yeah Eddie is a sad story. Not just in looks either. Last interview I read, his mind was totally whacked. I have a confession to make though: I think Van Halen sucks. All the elements were amazing, especially Dave and Eddie... But IMHO, they never made one solid album. Each of their albums would have one or two cool tracks, and the rest would just be 80's prom shit like Jamie's Cryin. I wish they had just made one hard rock album full of tracks like Atomic Punk and On Fire.

I guess I have a gripe like that with a lot of bands though. Like...For example... Danzig. The Misfits were and still the best thing he did.. But why the fuck couldn't he just save up more than $20 and crank out ONE well produced Misfits album? They would have been on cereal boxes and bubble gum wrappers, and had their own Saturday morning cartoon specials. Like Kiss. Except way fucking scarier and better than kiss. And then they would have done something infamous for the whole world to see.

...But instead, all most people remembers as far as black and white makeup and bubble gum wrappers goes IS Kiss. And Kiss deserves to be put through a fucking spaghetti machine.

/rantoff

Sorry! Just a little "What if?"

BLASPHEMY!!!!

Actually, as big a VH fan as I am, it's due entirely to EVH.  I never have been a Diamond Dave fan. I thought the songwriting (lyrics) were horrible; the guitar is what does it for me.  Once Hagar got on board, the songwriting improved dramatically - even if a bit too poppy at times.  5150 and OU812 are staples in my CD changer.  I can never get enough of the Brown Sound. 

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I saw Van Halen with the dude from Extreme singing. Live. I got very inebriated beforehand, and was glad of it.

We were front row, it was at the state fair, there were maybe 200 people there and my buddy knew security. Eddie played well, it's what he does, not matter how much of an asshole he is. And he is. But then Gary whatshisface comes bopping onto stage and we both loudly and drunkenly said "Who the fuck is that guy?" It wasn't pretty.

I think I love you.  I've never heard anyone else other than me admit to thinking Diamond Dave was a bit overrated.  A good showman, yes.  Good quality songs, no.  Most of the early albums I've heard and have usually consist of one or two godly tracks and the rest is just filler\fluff material (like Janie's Crying and You Really Got Me).  A good singles band, but not a good album band (kind of like Tom Petty).  I am a big fan of Sammy Hagar though, because he was in a previous band and carried himself solo before going to Van Halen, which shows me he does have talent outside of a good guitarist to make the songs sound good (unlike Dave's dreadful solo album).  Eddie looks like the crypt keeper now.  Years of hard partying and drinking are not good for you if you can't keep it in moderation!

I guess if we're going to talk about music from high school, for me it was Slayer, Type O Negative, and a host of other bands in similar veins.  I was the only one in my high school not listening to George Strait, Tim McGraw or the Dixie Chicks (small western towns for the win!).  Rage Against the Machine was cool when their first album came out in 1992 (Killing In The Name was awesome when I was 14 and hell, it still is) and Evil Empire was all right, but after that they lost me because I didn't see them growing or progressing much beyond those two albums (and in my opinion they really didn't).

Lots of talk of Mars Volta and ATDI but no love for Sparta? They are the other 2 members from ATDI that didn't join Mars Volta. Their first album was crap but the newer one is decent and MUCH more main stream and listenable than TMV. Deloused was genious, Frances was decent, Amputecthure is just pure crap and reminded me of Kid-A where they had some decent stuff but just put so much pure shit in between the music that it kills the whole thing.

Lately I've been listening to:

TV on the Radio:
http://www.purevolume.com/tvontheradio - Listen to Wolf Like Me

The Postal Service - Same front man as Death Cab for Cutie
http://www.purevolume.com/thepostalservicewa

The Decemberists - Gotta be much love for the Decemberists here...
http://www.purevolume.com/thedecemberistsor

I've also been digging the new songs I've heard from The Used, The Bravery and Finger Eleven but haven't gotten any of their full cds yet. Any reviews?

http://www.purevolume.com/thebravery - Time won't let me go, An honest mistake
http://www.purevolume.com/fingereleven - Paralyzer
http://www.purevolume.com/theused - The Bird and the Worm

We're lucky here in Upstate NY, Type O has played all over extensively. When the best metal club outside of NYC closed down, it sucked hard. Little place called the Lost Horizon in Syracuse. I've seen almost everyone who is anyone there, usually when they are still underground, from punk to metal. Best pit in the world, I've talked about it here before (a physical concrete pit with steel rails). Anyway, I've seen Type O there several times, including some sick Halloween shows. Great band.

Killing in the Name was one of the best songs for bands to cover in the 90s, been kicked out of clubs for that one.

Van Halen took a massive dump on vinyl when Roth got booted for Hagar. I love Sammy Hagar, I just never thought his sound meshed well with Van Halen. All the songs were so goddamn poppy it hurt. They sounded like formula radio hits with great guitars. Hagar's solo and Montrose work before, during and after Van Halen are all better than the stuff he did with Van Halen.

Diamond Dave was a retard of the highest order, but at least the songs sounded great. They had more feeling, more grit than anything that came after Jump.

http://www.amnesty.org/noise/language.html (http://www.amnesty.org/noise/language.html)

Wish all the tracks were on the CD's. Who knew that A-ha was still together? (Your mention of the postal service made me think of it.)

Anybody like Malkmus, former lead for Pavement?  I love his solo stuff.


Baby C'mon:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_obEe6kpY



Discreton Grove:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-JLyySaDIA


JoJo's Jacket:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XwLxNT8svk


Basically all the songs are good off all three of his solo albums.

Do you get bombarded with as much Tragically Hip in western NY as we do in northern NY?  For a few years,  you'd think that the Hip was the biggest band in the world from the amount of radio play they got here.

I got to see them in Dallas on the Life Is Killing Me tour in 2003.  I loved them opening with the whole Unsuccessfully Coping With The Natural Beauty Of Infidelity (the whole club singing along to "I know you're fucking someone else" is awesome).  I've been a fan since Bloody Kisses came out and was very pleased that they still played some of the older material.  Dimebag got on stage and sang along with Black #1, which was pretty nifty itself and I got to walk right by him on the way out (like 3 months before he died).  Even their new album I enjoy.  They are one band who hasn't ever disappointed with an album so far.

What's a radio?

Yes, the name Tragically Hip is familiar and I probably had a few of their songs drilled in my head from the unescapable idiot box.

Has anyone listened to Crowded House's new album yet?

If you were to venture north of the border you wouldn't even need a radio to have the Hip drilled in to your head. I'll admit I am a fan though. Here's a link to a live rendition of what is probably thier best known song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZwm_OKh6bw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZwm_OKh6bw)

They have a tendancy to take 4 minute songs and to turn them in to 8 - 10 minute songs live.

One of my favourite music magazines is this British thing called "Classic Rock", edited by Geoff Barton, whose words I grew up reading first in Sounds then in Kerrang! Fairly often they throw CDs on the cover, and this month (in the US, its last month's issue in the UK) there's a disc called "Bone Rattlin' Blues" which as you might guess is slanted towards more up-tempo blues-related tunes. There are some familiar names on there - Peter Green, John Mayall, Paul Rogders and Gary Moore among them - but there are some cuts from newcomers too - and a couple of the more interesting ones were from bands called Pig Irön (http://pigironmc.com/) (UK) and Rose Hill Drive (http://www.rosehilldrive.com/) (US). People into bluesy heavy rock may want to check them out via their sites - or grab the magazine - its good reading (feature stories on The Doors, Scorpions, Dinosaur Jr. and others this month). Both are due to be releasing debut albums soon, and both have one prior studio EP to their names.

So like Jon Spencer/Blues Explosion or not in that vein?

Just taking a quick gander, but it doesn't sound anything like the Explosion to me. Pig Iron sounds like 70's hard rock ala Skynrd/Motorhead or whatever. I've heard Rose Hill Drive before... Not really my thing, but not a bad band. Sounds more like a stoner rock band (i.e. Kyuss) than a retro one though.

As for JSBX, they barely qualify as blues-y in my opinion, and definitely not "classic rock". Even if they have the word "Blues" in their name. They're more like a Retarded Elvis and a Fuzz Pedal if you ask me.

Wait.. That would be the Cramps. :)

[EDIT] Speaking of that, this performance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCQ4QLFl01g) still cracks me up (there's a Devo one from the same show that's even funnier, but I can't find it).

Not just for those fucked up pants either. I love Poison Ivy. She looks like a white trash diner waitress. And I just like people who chew bubble gum in general.

Oh come the fuck on! 12 hours and not a reply? Did that vid leave a bad taste in your mouths or what?  :-P

I thought it was funny personally, but then I like weird stuff like that.  Some of us have to work all day and can't sit around posting ;-)

Pig Irön...grätüitöüs ümlaut included! Song started out ok but in the verse got very bland and local band sounding, nothing hooky about it. I wouldn't call it blues at all, just bar rock. I agree with Stray's take on Rose Hill, they're a good stoner rock band. They cook up a good jam. Not blues, though.

Seems like an odd cd mix. Peter Green is one of the greatest guitarists evar, and jams from Fleetwood in that period are amazing. Listening to Danny Kirwin and him go back and forth (http://youtube.com/watch?v=HQ8AcEYTEFY) is something that all guitarists should check out (look for Danny to break his E string around 1:50 :)). Actually, listening to Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks recently reminds me of that era. Otis Taylor is pretty under the radar, but he's great. I've only got one of his albums (When Negroes Walked the Earth), but I plan on getting more. Gary Moore (http://youtube.com/watch?v=XXYjEMTQRm0) is very talented, but lacks soul..his vocals remind me of every local white blues band you've ever seen. Talking cats from Ireland, I'll mention Rory Gallagher (http://youtube.com/watch?v=kGlz6PtNsbc). I think Rory's got the better voice, but they're both phenomenal guitarists.

The Cramps. Man, I used to dig those guys, great skate music. I guess sometimes style trumps talent, I'd listen to the Cramps all day before I'd listen to a single Dream Theater song.

Heh in fact I just bought a new board. I suck now, but I need to start blasting that shit. Maybe it'll help get my mojo back.  8-)

If you like the Cramps though, my comparison to the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion really isn't that off. JSBX (or any of it's parent bands with Spencer on vox) is just more noisy and scuzz driven..with some hip hop influence to boot. Totally different acts and all that, but I kinda like both bands for the same reasons.

JSBX Clip.....just in case (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9y0uezjIQI)


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Rory Gallagher is the shit.

Dude I've posted like 10 songs and received nary a reply.  Get over yourself.

Heard this while taking the woman shopping at penneys I think it was. Was so annoying I asked her if we could come back later. Wiki here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Noodle_Soup_(Song))
Have we sunk so low? Really?

Dude. That was.. Like... a week ago. Why are trying to talk about it now?

Besides, it was never about myself. It was about Lux's funny ass pants.

I've been busy all of last week, but I figured any video involving Lux should be watched when NOT working.

When I saw the Cramps in B'ham several years ago, Lux "simulated" masturbation on top of a stack of speakers.

Just to good fuck with you in a good natured fashion.

Got a gift cert to Barnes & Noble for Sysadmin appreciation day (actually won it in a contest, but the contest entries were staff appreciation forms and I had the highest stack, so same difference). No music books enticed me (I've got a great selection I'm working out of right now), so I hit the music section. I love having the allmusic info available in the store, I go over the entire blues section (and sometimes soul, country, rock, etc) Anything on my amazon list was way overpriced, but I did find three gems:

T-Bone Walker: T-Bone Blues. I've been working on rhythym guitar, and T-Bone chords are essential learning. Been toying with his pentatonic/mixolydian hybrid to flavor my pentatonic playing, and this later era album has a ton of smoking lead work for examples in action. Oh, and a GREAT cd.

Classic Blues from Smithsonian Folkways Recordings. Good mix cd of old blues. I'd say almost on par with the Lomax stuff for variety, but more commercial in areas. Artists read like a who's who of blues: Big Bill, Roosevelt Sykes, Champion Jack Dupree, Lonnie Johnson. I have a few of the tracks elsewhere, but the bulk is new stuff. I've got a ton of guitar blues and I think I'm going to start getting piano blues now, some of the piano tracks really knocked me out (as they did on Lomax's stuff): Joggie Boogie by Memphis Slim (with a nice slappy bass solo by Willie Dixon), Ran the Blues Out of my Window by Roosevelt Sykes. Nice acapella piece by Vera Hall, Candy Man by Rev Gary Davis. Just an amazing collection, 26 tracks.

The Complete Blind Willie Johnson. Wow. Two-disc set of gospel blues. Phenomenal slide guitar and a voice that has to be heard to be believed. As I try to sort out a way to make my voice palatable :) it's essential listening of how to use a not-very melodic voice in a powerful way. His wife accompanies nicely on a few tracks, but the slide guitar work is really the star of these discs.

I've been listening to their album at work since this post was made. It's fucking fantastic. I hear so many different artists in them, from Beck to Sonic Youth to Blur. It's such an eclectic mix that goes together perfectly. Fan-fucking-tastic.

Yeah, LCD is pretty cool..


Anyways /bump!



The Bronx (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNKa3l9R3ZI). I usually don't like "hardcore" styled vocals, but this band really fucking clicks (another track here (http://www.thebronxxx.com/mp3/the_bronx-historys_stranglers-192.mp3)).



Girl in a Coma (http://web.abqtrib.com/audio/musicreviews/01%20Clumsy%20Sky.mp3) (yeah, after the Morrisey song). One of the better things I've seen from my city in awhile. The girl can sing. Don't let the Morrisey thing turn you off from listening either. He's much better as a girl.

(http://niralimagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/mia-2.jpg)

M.I.A. -- Paper Planes (http://republik.is/arni/musik/11%20Paper%20Planes.mp3)

Hot Sri Lankan hip hop chick sampling the Clash. I'm in love.



[EDIT] Also, post more. I'll listen. This thread shouldn't have sunk down like it did.

I'm digging the new (at least new to me) Eddie Vedder cover. I haven't liked much of Pearl Jam since Versus but this goes back to more of the sound from Ten where it show cases the emotional range of his voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZaxrhtgltI


Edit: video is from a movie sound track so there's movie crap thrown in...

Yeah, it's a good cover. The Into the Wild soundtrack is a good album in general, if you don't already have it.

I like post-Ten Pearl Jam though... They changed mainly because Eddie started playing and writing guitar parts. And he sucks. But that's a good thing! Takes out the big Arena Rock feel, makes it more garage-y. :)

I don't bother posting any music stuff here because there don't seem to be to many people into the stuff I'm into, despite a pretty wide swath of tastes.

Is that girl squatting to take a dump?

I like her. I'll listen to more :)

I've been looking for new music for a while. And I somehow missed this thread. I've been listening to Belleruche (http://myspace.com/belleruche) lately and I really like them.

Cool link. Basically, the UK has made Hip Hop interesting again (Myah's from there too, though she's Sri Lankan by birth, I think). Fair warning though -- she's all over the place. Some of her stuff sounds like a mix between club music and something out of Bollywood, some sounds like Jungle. Still cool though.

Have you listened to Ceza? He's from Turkey and is probably the best thing that happened to hip-hop lately. Here's a clip (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yfyufGLNh-I) from The Sound of Istanbul (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0459242/) (it's where I heard of him for the first time) where he's performing his most famous song - Holocaust. Words are kind of not enough when talking about this guy, just check it out :)

For those in the know, I just saw Bruce Swedien on an intimate panel discussion at my school.  He's the recording engineer for Thriller and also worked with Count Basie and a whole slew of famous acts.  Anyway, the guy is awesome.  And he bears a passing resemblance to Wilford Brimley.