Music Wibble

[Righ]

There are quite a few threads related to music or stuff about particular bands or particular aspects of music on f13, but no active general music thread. Now there is.

I'll start off with something to listen to. This is a Japanese band called Koenjihyakkei. You could probably call them avant-garde - excessively anal category bores might call them Zeuhl.

Here's a track called Grembo Zavia from their second album Viva Koenji!

[schild]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-n-jjLibeXw

Maximum the Hormone is a band I've been listening to almost exclusively for the last few months. I think they're the only band in Japan that's listenable from the first track to the last track on every album they've released.

They do shit with pop and metal that American bands only wish they could do.

[Righ]

That was okay.

I think they're the only band in Japan that's listenable from the first track to the last track on every album they've released.

Nah... the Japanese underground has a lot of good and way-out-there bands.

[Engels]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-n-jjLibeXw

Maximum the Hormone is a band I've been listening to almost exclusively for the last few months. I think they're the only band in Japan that's listenable from the first track to the last track on every album they've released.

They do shit with pop and metal that American bands only wish they could do.

I'd have to listen to more, but it seems inspired by Rage Against the Machine and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Edit: listened to some more tracks, and they do rock. They have many types of sounds; Minute Men, Primus, even some Disturbed in there. Hard to really pigeon hole them.

[stray]

I shuffle a lot of music, but I'll mention someone from Texas: Scott H. Biram. If you like old/alt country and garage-y shit, then check him out.

On the non-Texas note, I guess that anytime is a good time to mention Ted Leo and Pharmacists. Kind of feelgood pop punk with a sort of soulfulness to it. Uhh.. Like old Elvis Costello or somethin'.

[Sky]

Maximum the Hormone

Repetitive and the vocals just sucked.

They do shit with pop and metal that American bands only wish they could do.

Neg. That's Mars Volta: http://youtube.com/watch?v=v2ayKK8E7gc Great live clip from MV: http://youtube.com/watch?v=X6hz_k4xua0 For my money Mars Volta is the best new band to come along in a long time.

[Engels]

You can't really compare the bands; they're trying to do very different things.

[Nebu]

Does this thread have any rules?  I'd love to discuss music, but I'm not very current on new acts. 

[schild]

Maximum the Hormone

Repetitive and the vocals just sucked.

You're wrong and your taste has moved from reasonable to questionable.

[HaemishM]

That Maximum reminded me of Limp Bizkit before Bizkit started to suck, mixed with a little bit of someone who can sing. Not bad.

[schild]

If I wasn't at work, I'd link to a lot of their other shit. Quite literally, having listened to nearly every band that ever hailed from Japan, Maximum is absolutely, no questions, by far, the best one.

[Nebu]

I lasted about 12s with those vocals.  I'm not saying the band isn't good, I'm just saying that the singing vocal style isn't my thing. 

[Sky]

You're wrong and your taste has moved from reasonable to questionable.

Because there is a right and wrong when it comes to opinion, now. It's fine you think they're great. I think they suck. You should know by now that rarely do our opinions match up.

And I'm definitely with Nebu. If someone is going to do some screechy yell, it's instantly turned off. Shut the fuck up and learn how to sing. I did try to check out some of their other stuff. Sampled four different songs, all repetetive, all with shitty vocals.

Of course, Nebu and I wouldn't have qualified opinions. 

[Sky]

If I wasn't at work, I'd link to a lot of their other shit. Quite literally, having listened to nearly every band that ever hailed from Japan, Maximum is absolutely, no questions, by far, the best one.

Neg.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R9dWMhSJq0c

[Ookii]

Band fight!

Posting YouTube links is not fair during working hours, I would assume most of us have YouTube blocked.

[RhyssaFireheart]

Neg.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R9dWMhSJq0c

That looked like some awesome fun there.  Goes to show that even if I can't understand a word of what was said (except the 1-2-3 part, LOL! counting in English) the music is completely universal. 

[Righ]

If I wasn't at work, I'd link to a lot of their other shit. Quite literally, having listened to nearly every band that ever hailed from Japan, Maximum is absolutely, no questions, by far, the best one.

That seems unlikely, or you wouldn't have picked a nu-metal band. :) Yellow Magic Orchestra, Acid Mothers Temple and the Melting Paraiso UFO, Ruins, KBB, Ars Nova?

[Righ]

Does this thread have any rules?  I'd love to discuss music, but I'm not very current on new acts. 

Rules? It has to be related to music. There's a thread for guitar players, and a thread for live music, but this is anything goes... provided its about music.


Edit: The Scott H. Biram was cool, thanks.

Sky: TMV are indeed one of the better recents bands 'over here'. When their music isn't being mastered hot and flat by idiots.

[Bunk]

My current indie pet favorite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakalope described as a Canadian Industrial/Pop act.

Thier myspace has a couple songs on it: http://www.myspace.com/jakalope

[Righ]

My current indie pet favorite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakalope described as a Canadian Industrial/Pop act.

So that's where Phil Caivano went (I like me some Monster Magnet). You can hear Reznor all over that sound. Pretty good.

[MrHat]

Keep it coming peoples.  I need new music.  So damn tired of what I have.

Although, I can listen to Sleater Kinney all fucking day.

[Yegolev]

I can't give anyone any new music except perhaps Muse, if that counts.  Most of the stuff I listen to is Bowie, but since Father's Day I have an iPod Nano and have branched out to some other stuff.  That includes Muse's Black Holes and Beck's Odelay.  I tend to listen to complete albums in repeat for weeks at a time, and the one I am listening to now is ...And Justice For All.  I think that after this one, I will possibly switch off to Bowie's Low as a cooldown in a few weeks, but Low never lasts long before I have to move up to Lodger or something.

Although listening to early Metallica after all this time makes me consider finding other metal favorites and really going off into it again.

[Phildo]

I bought Mars Volta's first album because I loved the single that I'm not even going to bother trying to spell right now.  I remember the first two tracks making one good song, and something like track 12 also being a song, and everything in the middle being little more than a jumble of sounds.

Also, the Maximum the Hormone guy stops yelling and starts singing eventually.  And at least three of the band members have good singing voices.  Did you even get to the part where the drummer sings?  Granted, I don't like the yelling either, but they do great things with hooks that would make some of America's pop songwriters jealous.

[stray]

Edit: The Scott H. Biram was cool, thanks.

Cool :) He kicks even more ass live.. The guy's a one man band.

[Righ]

Keep it coming peoples.  I need new music.  So damn tired of what I have.

My current favourites include:

Porcupine Tree sophisticated rock: mixes mainstream rock, pop, progressive rock
LCD Soundsystem clever dance-rock mix, with influences all over the art rock world
Spoon one of the best pop bands in the US
Pure Reason Revolution ... live prog rock with a new sound and great vocals
Burnt Friedman & Jaki Liebezeit ... live Jaki has been the greatest drummer in the world (IMO) for a long time - this recent pairing is superb - sometimes jazzy, sometimes ambient, sometime hypnotic
Isis ... live heavy, mixes drones and grooves to produce something different (some people call it 'post metal': weak)

[CmdrSlack]

In an effort to get my collection out of the distant past, I'm really searching for something that combines the Joy Division sound with older Sonic Youth (Daydream Nation or earlier) and maybe really early Bauhaus (Telegram Sam > Bella Lugosi's Dead).

I'm not looking for goth crap. Today, I heard something on the local alt rock station that sounded pretty cool, but the band name sounded like "Pretentious Goth Band."

Is it so hard to find that stuff? I kind of get an MC5-inspired fix from stuff like Jet, but damn.

I'm fully admitting here that I'm a codger who has a massive LP/cassette/CD collection and am at a loss for new stuff to get.

[Phildo]

Franz Ferdinand?

[Righ]

Have you tried She Wants Revenge? Definitely both Joy Division and Bauhaus influences there. You should listen to LCD Soundsystem linked above - they've covered Joy Division in their live shows... and while they don't sound like that, their fusion of influences may interest you, since they have that post-punk sound going on. Also perhaps Bloc Party, TV On The Radio and The Warlocks (the current band by that name).

[Righ]

Franz Ferdinand?

On the poppier side, sure. Along with Hot Hot Heat, Kaiser Chiefs, The Strokes, etc.

[schild]

Hey guys.

It's all about the Passion of Lovers.

Also, Peter Murphy's Cascade.

Oh, and She Wants Revenge only has two good tracks. And they're both on their first single. ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

[Nevermore]

I've been on a Giant Drag kick lately.

[Righ]

Also, Peter Murphy's Cascade.

I enjoyed that album. I go back to his early Dali's Car effort more, but then I adore Mick Karn's distinctive fretless bass playing.

[Selby]

Oh, and She Wants Revenge only has two good tracks.

They were boring as shit live.  Sure, the one guy was climbing the stageworks 10-15ft in the air and singing, but the songs were still boring and some goofy stage antics do not make up for that.  I do find it funny they decided to release a song where the chorus is Fucking Tear You Apart.  The rest of the album wasn't great.

I've been listening to the new Bad Religion album and Patti Smith alot lately.  I completed most of my Frank Zappa album collection, so now it's hard to find anything of his at the stores when I go to look that I don't already have.  I'm old and jaded regarding music so it is hard to find things that interest me that I don't listen to and think "done in 1985, better" or "ripped off from a 1974 release" which is kind of a dickhead thing to do.

I still can't tolerate screaming angst or cookie monster vocals.  Those get turned off any time I hear them in a song (with the exception of Carcass).

[Phildo]

Isn't She Wants Revenge the one where every single song has a repetitive two-minute intro before anything really happens?

The new Gym Class Heroes album is great, considering it's hip-hop.  I've hated every hip-hop album I've listened to in the last 7 years, but I can listen to their whole album and enjoy myself.

Rush just released another album, for you old-timers, but I personally haven't enjoyed any of their new stuff since Test for Echo in the mid-90s.

Mike Doughty is pretty awesome too, former front-man for Soul Coughing.

[Signe]

In an effort to get my collection out of the distant past, I'm really searching for something that combines the Joy Division sound with older Sonic Youth (Daydream Nation or earlier) and maybe really early Bauhaus (Telegram Sam > Bella Lugosi's Dead).

I'm not looking for goth crap. Today, I heard something on the local alt rock station that sounded pretty cool, but the band name sounded like "Pretentious Goth Band."

Is it so hard to find that stuff? I kind of get an MC5-inspired fix from stuff like Jet, but damn.

I'm fully admitting here that I'm a codger who has a massive LP/cassette/CD collection and am at a loss for new stuff to get.

How does any of that get you out of the past?