War

[Hoax]

Large but useless drone region alliance who had done something to annoy the Russians.

Basically they had either:
-A few good moons.
-A decent place to build supercaps.

Since its drone regions I would guess the latter, but I don't know anyone in Ka-Tet and there hasn't been much noise about their destruction beyond a general "meh" on the boards.  Propoganda that RSF is just removing those unworthy of holding space from 0.0 continues unabaited I'm sure, in fact I bet there are plenty of goons dumb enough to believe it.  While the great red satan continues to gobble up more and more of the high end 0.0 infrastructure that is only really needed to make more supercaps..

As I have long predicted, only BoB can save the eve universe from a truly awful fate, being run by fucking Russians.

Plus side, at least they have the redeeming quality of playing great futbol these days.

[Endie]

Welcome to Eve.

[lac]

As I have long predicted, only BoB can save the eve universe from a truly awful fate, being run by fucking Russians.

Just wait until they reveal max tomorrow. A quarterpounder with cheese will pale in comparison.

[bhodi]

When BoB gets bored, they do it in style.

There's a 200 man BoB gang flying solely assault frigates spotted in e8-y.

The entire gang. In AFs.

[Slayerik]

So you mean bored of doing that in motherships? :)

[Endie]

When BoB gets bored, they do it in style.

There's a 200 man BoB gang flying solely assault frigates spotted in e8-y.

The entire gang. In AFs.

They did that against us during (I think - it all blurs a bit) the Querious campaign, on a cynojammer op.  It was a failure, but a gloriously hilarious one, to be fair.

[Phildo]

From UNL's killboard today:

http://kb.unl.su/?a=kill_related&kll_id=58086

[bhodi]

This just in:



Stay tuned; there will be a formal announcement on Friday.

[lac]

Poor carebears

[Dallan]

When BoB gets bored, they do it in style.

There's a 200 man BoB gang flying solely assault frigates spotted in e8-y.

The entire gang. In AFs.

They did that against us during (I think - it all blurs a bit) the Querious campaign, on a cynojammer op.  It was a failure, but a gloriously hilarious one, to be fair.

Wasn't that actually against MC's TPAR jammer during the first Period Basis campaign? Though I suppose they might well have done it twice.

Also: MAX unveiled.

At the barbecue Mr. Molen unveiled a new strategy called Max, for Maximum Damage. While most Eve campaigns center on taking and controlling regions of space, BOB’s new Maximum Damage doctrine focuses on simply pillaging and destroying the territories of others.

“Our goal is to control all of Eve,” Mr. Molen said in an interview over an Internet voice chat program. “It’s totally impossible to claim all of Eve physically. But it’s possible to control the people. It’s possible to control the alliances, be it by economic means or fighting means or political means. That was the goal and that is the goal.”

Given everything they were saying about it pre-BBQ, I was expecting something a bit more novel than making a global doctrine out of EC-P8R style "lockdown, purge the system, leave, trust fear to keep them in line" attacks. Not to mention that the dplomatic situation that let EC-P8R actually succeed at the time doesn't really exist anymore.

[JoeTF]

It wasn't TPAR, but it was against MC. We didn't took cynojammer down that time due to people not having enough assault frigs, but it was spectacularly fun and quite successful (we won like 4 battles against MC and died to doomsday that came literally in last second (it went boom same second as large bubble:D).

Regarding MAX, is more like "that will make those pussies finally give us cap fights" idea than galaxy domination plan. If you don't like someone and happen to know where (s)he is building titan(s)/mothership(s), PM me;-)

[Endie]

The Max thing isn't a bad idea.  Bob and the Goons both discovered in the last 18 months that long, grinding wars of occupation drive off members and lower participation amongst the remainder.  why not just turn up, force engagements by finding what the enemy cannot afford to lose, and then go in search of the next fight?

[Pezzle]

Yeah, exploding outposts are a GREAT idea......   

[Endie]

Yeah, exploding outposts are a GREAT idea......   

This isn't the exploding outposts thread, Pezzle.  That's over there (and Jade got knocked back by the devs on that one anyway  ).

I'm no fan of Bob, as everyone here knows, but forcing an angagement by attacking what your target cannot afford not to defend is smart: it's also a classic counter-insurgency tactic in asymmetric warfare (though it doesn't always work: viz. Bannockburn...).

[Slayerik]

The Max thing isn't a bad idea.  Bob and the Goons both discovered in the last 18 months that long, grinding wars of occupation drive off members and lower participation amongst the remainder.  why not just turn up, force engagements by finding what the enemy cannot afford to lose, and then go in search of the next fight?

That was the TRI way, we were called paper tigers for doing this.

At the same time, the only thing our guys really cared to commit to was roaming and fucking people up. POS warfare wasn't our gig, and it showed (though when you got to meet a real TRI sniper fleet you probably were coming back in a pod).

I'm glad to see more groups are realizing this.

[LC]

I hope they do some house cleaning before this thing kicks off. The GBC has gotten fat. Certain alliances (I won't name) have been mass recruiting carebears during the break.

[Phred]

How is this any different from how Bob conducted most of the war? Ignoring strategic targets for killboard stats is what it boils down to.

[lac]

How is this any different from how Bob conducted most of the war? Ignoring strategic targets for billboard stats is what it boils down to.

I think they are trying to aim at 'ignoring everything but strategic targets'.
What it boils down to is that they want to spend most their time shooting people instead of posses. Can't blame them.

[Phildo]

dead titan

Edit: fixed link, I hope

[Comstar]

Who are  The Requiem and does this mean every 2 bit alliance now has a Titan these days?

[Simond]

The Requiem are some of the remnants of Triumverate, MC and Insurgency (I think) who decided that hotdropping TCF in Curse with a titan was a good plan

[LC]

Game-Over are ex-shinra guys who's only claim to fame is that they were directors back when everyone in shinra was a director. They couldn't be directors in RKK so they formed GAME-OVER just before shinra unmerged. (The whole RKK merger was Nebba Kenezzers idea though.) After Shinra was reformed they told us that they had become big time eve celebrities, and couldn't be bothered to come back.

In GAME-OVER there is a guy named Tusal who runs some shitty company and likes to purchase ETCs. He bought Agmar (CEO of Game-Over) a mothership with ETC sales. We laughed at them for purchasing supercaps with RL money, and they reacted by trying to poach our members. A few of our shitty guys like Crice fell for their promises of free motherships/isk and signed up.   

Nebba Kenezzer also joined them after Tusal gave him a job with his company. Tusal quickly bought Nebba a titan with his ETC sales. Something happened after that though, and Tusal told them that he wouldn't give them anything else. So Nebba went to everyone he knew trying to borrow money. He even asked Shinra members for money. I think he managed to borrow some from a few BoB members, but didn't get enough to fully fit the titan. I guess he just decided to tech 2 fit it in the end. 

It must have been funny when Agmar called Nebba to let him know that he lost the titan.

[Thrawn]

We had a RA carrier in Providence this morning. 

[LC]

We had a RA carrier in Providence this morning. 

They are coming for your moons.

[Endie]

We had a RA carrier in Providence this morning. 

They are coming for your moons.

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In Providence?  Frankly, they only have to ask.  If Cobalt and Atmospheric Gases really matter that much to them then they are in dire straits indeed.

[ajax34i]

For our moons?  Hahahahahahahahaha.  Yeah, ok.  Cobalt, Silicates, Atmospherics, good luck.

[Simond]

Roadkill are supposed to have reset SMASH and stolen Peoke's titan, but it looks suspiciously like a prank to me.

[Phildo]

Apparently three of the major corps in The Requiem have left the alliance today.

[Endie]

Apparently three of the major corps in The Requiem have left the alliance today.

Yeah well, our five-hour scamper round their territory must have broken the back of their morale... 

[bhodi]

So, Stain Empire (SE), a merry band of poopsocking russians, recently upgraded their annoying "let's camp goonswarm's travel pipes 24/7" campaign while we've been in geminate and has been reinforcing PoSes around the southern stain area. A few days ago, they brought 20 caps and an 80 man BS fleet to reinforce one of our jumpbridge PoSes.

Needless to say, if this jump bridge went down it would cut the "Jewper Highway", our jumpbridge network, in half - seriously messing up our logistics. We *had* to save this PoS, we expected SE to bring everything they had, and so we formed up to defend it this afternoon.

We get a fleet of around 100 versus stain's 150. Things are looking good, when suddenly...  A CHALLENGER APPEARS!



We now know the target of BoB's new "MAX" campaign - us. BoB and friends (Exceed) bring 150 battleships and 50 support to bolster SE's 150 battleships. We're heavily outnumbered and things are looking grim... and then TCF appears with their own fleet and caps!



We're still outnumbered in subcapitals by 2:1 but we now have capitals on grid and the PoS defense advantage.

The battle is joined when they warp on grid. The fighters and the PoS guns get a majority of the kills as everyone has 4 minute module lag. We lose a few ships but the battle does not go well for the attacker. They withdrawl and regroup leaving a mass of wrecks. They come back in several minutes later before retreating a second time.

We manage to rep the PoS shields above 50% and restront it just as they come in with a third wave. The lag is much more manageable at this point, and their fleet is severely diminished - they have no more than 50-60 battleships on grid and they are about 250km out. Because of the wrecks everywhere, our dictors have an easy time warping into them and they are quickly bubbled. Fighters, drones, and PoS guns quickly make short work of them and only a handful get out alive.

The remnants of the attacking fleet flees the system to cries of "fofofo" in local, leaving only slowly twisting wreckage...

[Sparky]

Nice writeup.

[LC]

We now know the target of BoB's new "MAX" campaign - us. BoB and friends (Exceed) bring 150 battleships and 50 support to bolster SE's 150 battleships.

MAX hasn't even kicked off yet. How could you know the target?


I know who the target is though!

[bhodi]

Well, Stain Empire suddenly going on the offensive and trying to break our jump bridge network 3 days before your kick off, plus a 200 man BoB fleet on-site could just be coincidental...

[Slayerik]

Well, Stain Empire suddenly going on the offensive and trying to break our jump bridge network 3 days before your kick off, plus a 200 man BoB fleet on-site could just be coincidental...

 

[lac]

BoB going on a tour of the south would be funny considering PL has been making preparation to GTFO of Fountain at the first sign of trouble.