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Reply #2380 on: December 12, 2011, 06:27:33 PM

The "buttons" are touch sensitive pads, not actual buttons. I did try messing around with them a bit but to no effect.

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Reply #2381 on: December 12, 2011, 06:37:18 PM

Hit them with a hammer. Then replace your monitor.

Or try to clean them with a cloth first, my samsung kept turning on and off when there was some gunk on the touch button.
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Reply #2382 on: December 18, 2011, 08:51:01 AM

Anyone remember when I was looking to buy a UPS?

Well, it got here last week. I go to plug it into my transformer when I see a problem - the plug is...weird. Turns out it's a NEMA 5-20 spec plug, which I've never seen before, and my transformer only accepts "normal" 5-15 plugs. It looks like I could buy something like this (http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-1F515520-1-Foot-15-Amp-Adapter/dp/B00439KIF6/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1324226943&sr=8-8) to get the right plug configuration...but does anyone thing that'd be a problem? Doesn't seem to me that giving the UPS 15 amps when it can accept 20 amps should hurt anything, but what do I know?

My maintenance guys were ready to perform surgery on the plug to "convert" it to a 15 amp plug, but I'd like to avoid cutting up my expensive UPS if at all possible.

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Reply #2383 on: December 18, 2011, 10:39:18 AM

Likely not a big deal, a few of the UPS manufacturers seem to sell adapters that do exactly that.  Probably will recharge the battery backup slowly though.
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Reply #2384 on: December 18, 2011, 10:46:31 AM

You need to make sure that the UPS you bought can actually handle input current at or below 15A before you go adapting things or changing plugs. You could very easily start a fire if you pull too many amps through a 5-15P (which is why there are different plug types for different amperages).


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Reply #2385 on: December 18, 2011, 12:47:29 PM

Good to know - how would I actually determine that? The UPS is this model: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842102090 I see frequency measured in hz, but nothing about amperage.


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Reply #2386 on: December 18, 2011, 03:34:39 PM

Check the label on the side of the ups all electronic/electrical devices say what their electricity use is on that panel.

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Reply #2387 on: December 18, 2011, 06:41:27 PM

Anyone have experience using a mini amp to power good-sized speakers for computer audio? Maybe something along the lines of these two?

Scythe's Kama Bay Amp
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Reply #2388 on: December 18, 2011, 07:01:15 PM

Anyone have experience using a mini amp to power good-sized speakers for computer audio? Maybe something along the lines of these two?

Scythe's Kama Bay Amp
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How big are the speakers? You need to make sure you have an amp powerful enough to drive them. Just as many speakers are blown from being underpowered than are blown from being overpowered.

I used to use a mini-bookshelf stereo as my "speakers" for my computer, used one of the line ins and always got great sound.

For the price of that Nu-Force you could just buy a pair of M-Audio AV40 powered monitors which will probably give you a lot better sound. Or, for less than $100 you could do the Alesis M1Active320USB monitors. I love my M-Audio BX-5s but those are "used" for my turntables so I bought the M1Actives for my PC speakers and am very happy with them, especially for the price (they have the same wattage amp built in as the one you linked). One big advantage to using monitors is that they are always shielded so you can use them close to other equipment and not have magnetism issues, though unless you are using a CRT still you probably would not notice the lack of shielding.

Of course, the whole "some people don't like studio monitor sound" argument Ingmar will bring up comes into play if you go with monitors.

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Reply #2389 on: December 18, 2011, 07:55:21 PM

They are floor speakers from Bose, 7-8 years old. Just found the manual for them online, and it says they are compatible with 10-200 watt/channel receivers, 4-8 ohms. I believe they are 100 watts.

I got rid of my old 100lb receiver and though I'd hook these up to the comp for playing music through.

The speakers you mention below look interesting though, will look some more ..
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Reply #2390 on: December 18, 2011, 10:23:08 PM

I went from $100 Bose PC speakers to M-Audio AV40s about a year ago.  I didn't like their 'boomyness' for the first few days, so I returned them and tried a few other pairs.  I ended up returning them all and went back to the AV40s.  After about a week of use, the AV40s just 'clicked' with me and they are without question the best PC speakers I have owned.  Buy them. 
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Reply #2391 on: December 18, 2011, 11:42:36 PM

Note that M-Audio is now selling newer gimped versions of the AV40 that are cheaper but have less power per channel (15 watts vs 20 watts).
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Reply #2392 on: December 19, 2011, 12:02:41 AM

Wow, that's shady.  I've got the 20s and they're worth it.  Can't comment on the 15s.
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Reply #2393 on: December 19, 2011, 04:17:11 AM

I had AV-30's  and they just did not last and truthfully I was never really happy with them.  When they did die I decided to move away from the integrated amplifier.  I looked at the NuForce but thought they were pricey.  I ended up with a DTA-100a from Parts Express and a set of somewhat inexpensive bookshelf speakers.  For the price I've been much happier with this combo than any PC speakers I've owned in the past.
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Reply #2394 on: December 19, 2011, 06:08:09 AM

Wow, that's shady.  I've got the 20s and they're worth it.  Can't comment on the 15s.

You don't necessarily need a big amp when the amp is integrated. You lose a lot of that power over cable runs which you don't have to worry about when the amp is inside there.


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Reply #2395 on: December 19, 2011, 08:50:36 AM

I ended up with a DTA-100a from Parts Express and a set of somewhat inexpensive bookshelf speakers.

Oo that might be a good option. The M-Audio speakers look nice, but they are bit big to fit on my desk and a bit small to sit on the floor. I'll mockup a box that fits their size and see if I can get them to sit on my desk somehow ..

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Reply #2396 on: December 19, 2011, 09:31:21 AM

Get some monitor speaker stands that are height adjustable (they really dhould be at ear level) and put them behind your desk.
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Reply #2397 on: December 19, 2011, 02:58:20 PM

You need to make sure that the UPS you bought can actually handle input current at or below 15A before you go adapting things or changing plugs. You could very easily start a fire if you pull too many amps through a 5-15P (which is why there are different plug types for different amperages).

The cord he intends to buy is purpose-built to do the conversion, it shouldn't ignite.  Just like those dollar store extension cords shouldn't ignite.  How well the transformer or UPS likes it is a question for the manufacturer.
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Reply #2398 on: December 19, 2011, 04:35:45 PM

I'd be more worried about the wires in the walls igniting from too heavy a draw.
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Reply #2399 on: December 20, 2011, 11:15:02 AM

Well, the transformer is converting from 220 down to 110.

I asked my maintenance folks at work as well. They didn't seem concerned, for whatever that's worth.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #2400 on: December 20, 2011, 11:56:41 AM

I've never seen a maintenance guy get concerned over anything. Ever.
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Reply #2401 on: December 20, 2011, 01:21:39 PM

I've never seen a maintenance guy get concerned over anything. Ever.

This. Most maintenance guys don't know much about electricity beyond how to change a lightbulb.

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Reply #2402 on: December 29, 2011, 12:08:23 PM

I am looking to upgrade my monitor from a 20.1" Dell 2005 into a 24" or 27".  Any recommendations?  Usage will be about 50% gaming, 50% web dev/schoolwork.  I'm looking for a good balance between price and quality, if possible. 
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Reply #2403 on: December 29, 2011, 12:12:18 PM

What does "web dev" mean? If you are doing any graphic design work involving color I would strongly recommend staying as far away from TN panels as possible.
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Reply #2404 on: December 29, 2011, 12:16:20 PM

Yeah, I'm in school for design, but just starting to get into my graphics classes now.  What other options are there from TN panels?  CRTs, or something I'm less familiar with?

Upon reading further, is IPS the way to go, then?
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Reply #2405 on: December 29, 2011, 12:28:25 PM

There are different panel technologies used in LCD displays -- the main ones for desktop computer displays being TN, MVA/PVA, and IPS. If you are doing graphic design work I would get a low end IPS display. Those have the best color reproduction everything else being equal. TN panels are almost always 6 bits per color instead of the normal 8 bits so they have to "dither" the missing colors. The down sides with IPS are that they are more expensive and their refresh rates aren't as good.
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Reply #2406 on: December 29, 2011, 12:30:55 PM

Thanks, reading on that tech now.  It narrows things down a bit.  Any brands stick out as general winners/losers?  Samsung and Dell were both decent when I bought four years ago.
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Reply #2407 on: December 29, 2011, 12:31:06 PM

Upon reading further, is IPS the way to go, then?
Yes get something like a Dell U2412M.
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Reply #2408 on: December 29, 2011, 12:33:44 PM

Thanks, reading on that tech now.  It narrows things down a bit.  Any brands stick out as general winners/losers?  Samsung and Dell were both decent when I bought four years ago.
At the low end it doesn't matter much. If you were doing this professionally there are special monitors you can get which cost a lot that have features that make the colors they produce even more accurate.
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Reply #2409 on: December 29, 2011, 12:36:22 PM

Thanks a ton, that's a great start.  Much appreciated.
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Reply #2410 on: December 29, 2011, 01:05:36 PM

Being a monitor nut myself, what Trippy said.

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Reply #2411 on: December 29, 2011, 05:32:08 PM

It is too bad we can't sticky inside of a thread. I swear I knew exactly what Trippy was going to say about LCD panels based on the seven or eight other times the topic has come up in this thread.

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Reply #2412 on: December 29, 2011, 09:29:52 PM

I hate Dell with an irrational fiery passion, but their monitors are pretty sweet.
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Reply #2413 on: December 30, 2011, 02:03:35 AM

I just read a review of a Dell 23" e-IPS monitor with a 6-bit display Facepalm Fucking marketing people. If you want to get an IPS display you'll need to verify that it's an 8-bit display.
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Reply #2414 on: December 30, 2011, 08:11:02 AM

I tell you, they're cutting corners these days. Wait till IPS becomes a 'buzz word' and they'll be selling any ole crap with the term IPS shoved in there somehow.

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