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I wouldn't bother even trying to question the logic of that particular choice. It's utter garbage, and is only there because each zone must have a light / dark side option apparently.
There's quit a few like that sprinkled throughout the game and it's quite jarring to come across them because they are so obviously completely bloody stupid.
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How in god's name do I get dark side points for shooting at the aggressors?
You instigate open hostilities with political 'superpower' entity you have truce with and who isn't attacking you (the planet isn't part of the Empire) effectively providing a potential pretext for starting Star Wars equivalent of world war 3 (where it can be avoided) For what's worth, it's viewed the same if you do it on the republic side.
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kildorn
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How in god's name do I get dark side points for shooting at the aggressors?
You instigate open hostilities with political 'superpower' entity you have truce with, effectively providing a potential pretext for starting Star Wars equivalent of world war 3 (where it can be avoided) For what's worth, it's viewed the same if you do it on the republic side. By that point in the story on both sides I believe the truce has been broken by the "other" side. They actually really get strange about the truce, since it shows up and leaves completely at random. I know at one point in my plot line someone offhandedly remarks "oh guess what, we just declared war again" and does something, and this is never ever mentioned again. In the next scene everyone is acting really worried that their actions will violate the truce that I was just told was gone.
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I have been Dark Side V since level 22ish. I can not bring myself to ever select a light side option now. I AM IN TOO DEEP! I just keep adding to the body count and someday, the Council will know my name is the Lord! You must run a lot of flashpoints or something? At 31 my Shadow is only Dark III and I've taken all dark options every time it's an option. I farmed Esseles for 250 dark side points a run... for a lot of runs.
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tmp
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By that point in the story on both sides I believe the truce has been broken by the "other" side. It comes at roughly the same time the start of consular act 2 happens and i'm not sure, it generally feels like there's hostilities here and there but when they break out the officials on the top on both sides insist it's been some 'rebel offshots' and whatnot -- neither side seems keen to actually declare "to hell with it and now you die", which can make some sense given the Republic situation but for the Empire i dunno. But then the farthest i followed their storylines so far was agent landing on Balmorra.
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Soln
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Without reading the thread, can someone reassure me that Corso Riggs becomes useful or interesting at SOME POINT? Or can I look forward to better companions?
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Sjofn
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Oh, I think you need to read the thread with regards to Corso Riggs. In fact, spoilery-ish crap that is NON-romance related: If you don't mind Goddamn Wookiee Speak, Bowdaar isn't bad, though. I still haven't managed to claw along to get Companion Three, but she seems pretty awesome (as I've talked her a couple of times, she just isnt a COMPANION yet). Soloing as a gunslinger sucks.
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Soloing as a gunslinger sucks.
Soloing as sniper with Kaliyo is on the other hand At least at the early levels, literally headshotting regular mobs on the spot from full health to zero just doesn't get old. And my rifle is as long as my sniper is tall
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Ingmar
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Hmm, should be about the same, you both have a tank companion and are both the pure DPS AC.
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Sjofn
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It didn't start to really suck until mid-20's for me. It's also possible I am simply terrible.
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Yeah mechanically i suspect it's similar but dunno, maybe it's just something about the sniper that makes it awesome. Like not having Corso Riggs.
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kildorn
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Hmm, should be about the same, you both have a tank companion and are both the pure DPS AC. It may have to do with the mobs in question, too. I found the BH starter planet a lot easier than the Trooper starter. Gunslinger shouldn't have issues until 30+ though imo. I can't think of anything I was struggling to heal through before Voss. Voss is what made me think "gunslingers are supposed to deal with this fight.. how?"
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Sjofn
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The last fight on Tatooine, I had to call in my sister to help (two gold stars, although one was CC'd for most of the fight). I just could not kill the sith gold star before she killed Corso, and then whelp, too fucking bad for me.
EDIT: And even on the stuff where I'm not technically having "trouble," I have a lot more damn downtime because I have to "drink" after most fights.
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kildorn
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The last fight on Tatooine, I had to call in my sister to help (two gold stars, although one was CC'd for most of the fight). I just could not kill the sith gold star before she killed Corso, and then whelp, too fucking bad for me.
EDIT: And even on the stuff where I'm not technically having "trouble," I have a lot more damn downtime because I have to "drink" after most fights.
My scoundrel enlisted help for that fight as well. Healing doesn't help, it's just a really crazy fight. I hear the soloing trick is to actually passive your companion and let the jedi get some crazy threat lead and "tank" for you.
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tmp
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I find in quite a few fights it's better to switch off the auto from companion's taunt ability and handle that manually. Can spread the incoming damage better that way and the companion doesn't just keep taunting until it literally kills them (taking out the dps that'd otherwise win the fight)
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Oh CORSO.
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« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 02:20:55 PM by kildorn »
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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End of Chapter 3 for the Consular, although I'm mostly avoiding talking in specifics:
Consular companion nattering:
I SHOULD do my smuggler next in order to continue the Corso Chronicles, but I think my trooper (who is the same level as her now) is going to be next.
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Consular companion nattering:
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(minor consular act 2 spoilers)
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« Last Edit: January 08, 2012, 12:35:20 PM by Zetor »
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Sjofn
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Consular companion nattering:
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(minor consular act 2 spoilers)
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01101010
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Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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Act 1 end for the Agent broke any motivation I had to play her. I'm now playing a trooper and beeing a good little soldier picking all the light side choices, even when dark side is the obvious one
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As a matter of fact I swallowed one of these about two hours ago and the explanation is that it is, in fact, my hand.
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The last fight on Tatooine is pretty much impossible for any smuggler no matter what the spec. Nobody I know has been able to solo it: there's a constant stream of smugglers asking for help with it in chat.
As for later smuggler fun, maybe some of you have noticed the non-interactable green character in your XS medical bay? The one who has been there pretty much since Nar Shaddaa? Named "Ivory"? Well, eventually he shows up in the plot...at Belsavis. But not on your ship. Wow, that's a silly bug.
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Tyrnan
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The last fight on Tatooine is pretty much impossible for any smuggler no matter what the spec. Nobody I know has been able to solo it: there's a constant stream of smugglers asking for help with it in chat.
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Since I couldn't talk with Sjofn last night in the game...
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Khaldun
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By Belsavis, I'm very happy to be a smuggler with loose ties to the Republic, because holy shit are they fuckups. Every single planet I've been to, it's:
a) We lost sensitive intel because, um, well, Lieutenant Freckles had to wipe his ass in the commode and he used the papers from the briefcase that have all our troop emplacements and then we forgot about them before we had to run away. Could you go fish them out of the toilet? Because we, um, have a manpower shortage. Yes, that's it.
b) Every planet builds its own superweapon. It's like a state flower or a community art project: you're supposed to build superweapons that threaten your own existence and then complain when someone might use them. Actually, this one hits a bit too close to home: it's like superweapons are Senatorial pork.
c) The Republic builds weapon prototypes and then does things like store them on a prison planet right next to the supermax cells. Weapon prototypes which happen to destroy security forcefields.
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kildorn
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The last fight on Tatooine is pretty much impossible for any smuggler no matter what the spec. Nobody I know has been able to solo it: there's a constant stream of smugglers asking for help with it in chat.
As for later smuggler fun, maybe some of you have noticed the non-interactable green character in your XS medical bay? The one who has been there pretty much since Nar Shaddaa? Named "Ivory"? Well, eventually he shows up in the plot...at Belsavis. But not on your ship. Wow, that's a silly bug.
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Khaldun
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Oh yeah, I just got some help and got it done a long time ago. With a Jedi pal, it really did last about fifteen seconds.
Some companions are really hard to predict in terms of negative/positive reactions. Risha particularly is all over the place. She tends not to like things that make me seem too obedient to the Republic and she likes when I get my money, but what's really hard to tell is how she'll react to a get-my-money but also get-dark-side-points decision. She seems like she's really cold-hearted and then suddenly you'll get a big hit for doing something only mildly cold. Akaavi is also a bit hard to pin down.
I was kind of amazed in the early going how often [flirt] responses lead to your scoundrel going offscreen with your conversation partner. My character definitely should have space STD by now.
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Jedi Knight post-storyline romance tidbit spoilers:
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Since I couldn't talk with Sjofn last night in the game...
Also, people getting letters from their sweeties, I'm not getting letters from Lt. Boyfriend. I assume because I denied his promotion to Lt. Husband. EDIT: OH, and I also love how the Republic builds superweapons and stores them on a prison planet, in the same place where some of their really horrible prisoners are stores. It made my consular really think about the choices she's made in life. Perhaps that Hob girl has the right idea after all?
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Khaldun
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The prison planet in general is full of WTF-REALLY? Republic stuff.
Though the whole prison thing is consistent with the Republic throughout--they're short on manpower because they're a bunch of wasteful asshats. They're spending bazillions of credits cleaning up Taris (and wasting the lives of troops and mercenaries) when their own CAPITAL is a fucking mess anywhere but near the Senate building.
About the main reason the Republic is still in business from what I can see is that the Sith are such an over-the-top murderous and treacherous bunch of nutjobs.
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