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Title: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: caladein on November 27, 2011, 01:39:43 PM
Pretty sure we can just run one of these for all LOLSTORY discussions.  Onward to page 2... of the thread list!




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 27, 2011, 03:38:03 PM



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on November 28, 2011, 09:42:02 AM
I kept hearing the Consular story was poor, but I kind of like it. It's hard to make a proper jedi interesting (they're basically shit happens let's all try and be calm types. Boooring. Every movie plot jedi was a SHIT jedi, order rules wise), but I think they did a great job of letting me be both humble and compassionate.

Smuggler line is goddamned AWESOME though. It's just the right mix of hilarious and serious/pissed off.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on November 28, 2011, 10:11:54 AM
Bounty Hunter - one of those class quest lines...



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on November 28, 2011, 10:14:53 AM
Sith inquisitor starter planet spoilers, near the end:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on November 28, 2011, 12:03:48 PM
I played the agent story line up to getting to the fleet. For a secret undercover agent picked for your ability to be autonomous, you had your hand held tighter than a mother leading her toddler across a parking lot.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 28, 2011, 05:25:34 PM
This isn't particularly spoily, because I am going to be vague:

The inquisitor starting companion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consular starting companion. Also everything that comes out of my inquisitor's mouth is solid fucking gold.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on November 28, 2011, 08:23:45 PM
This isn't particularly spoily, because I am going to be vague:

The inquisitor starting companion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consular starting companion. Also everything that comes out of my inquisitor's mouth is solid fucking gold.

FemInquisitor is indeed the best. In the first fifteen seconds she's goddamned awesome/hilarious.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 28, 2011, 11:24:07 PM
Manquisitor for life, baby. He is (also) a huge snarky bitch, and I lurve him.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Azuredream on November 29, 2011, 12:30:41 AM
I made it up to Nar Shaddaa on an Imperial Agent and up to getting my ship on my Inquisitor. I liked the Inquisitor story a lot more.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 29, 2011, 12:43:18 AM
Speaking of Nar Shadda, I really enjoyed that planet. I'm ... not entirely sure why. But I did!

Vague Nar Shadda Consular Spoilers, I guess:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on November 29, 2011, 06:16:33 AM
Adding another BH one to the mix since I just finished the class line on Kaas:


edit: fail spoiler, -50 dkp.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Pezzle on November 29, 2011, 06:52:33 AM
This isn't particularly spoily, because I am going to be vague:

The inquisitor starting companion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consular starting companion. Also everything that comes out of my inquisitor's mouth is solid fucking gold.

Funny, I hated Khem and found him an much weaker tank than Qyzen.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Wolf on November 29, 2011, 06:57:53 AM
Hey, back off of Khem. You try to tank in a loincloth, see how that goes for you.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Pezzle on November 29, 2011, 07:02:57 AM
I will not.  If you are going to act all badass and talk about eating masters and shit you better back it up.  Oh, you are weakened right now?  How about you shut your cake hole then?  Also, the real problem with both is the jibberspeak while you are out smashing stuff. 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on November 29, 2011, 08:22:08 AM
Khem rocks out force armor. Of course, I called him Crackle since that is all he seems to do. Updating his armor with some drops helps tremendously as well as giving him a new weapon. I outfitted him with DK comms gear and he worked much better. Still, there was that bug with tanking companions having no armor bonuses or something to that effect.

and...


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on November 29, 2011, 12:51:58 PM
Khem seems stoic and pissy, which is okay for his theme.

Qyzen is just really fucking annoying with his constant scorekeeper nonsense, and the entire reason he's with you seems reaaaaallly sketchy for a jedi to go along with to me.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: VainEldritch on November 29, 2011, 01:17:50 PM
This isn't particularly spoily, because I am going to be vague:

The inquisitor starting companion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consular starting companion. Also everything that comes out of my inquisitor's mouth is solid fucking gold.

FemInquisitor is indeed the best. In the first fifteen seconds she's goddamned awesome/hilarious.


"I still pretty much don't care." is another great, Saharan-dry delivery, one liner to that twat of a soldier who begs for  her help. Utterky impassive evil. I love it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: VainEldritch on November 29, 2011, 01:18:34 PM
Double-post delete

 :facepalm:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Pezzle on November 29, 2011, 01:19:23 PM
I am not sure you can consider either companions reason for hanging around with you especially compelling.  You beat Khem in a fight and he spends the rest of the game screaming about eating people AND he swears revenge on you?  Qyzen lost his honor and considers you the herald of his deity because you rescue him?



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: VainEldritch on November 29, 2011, 01:22:15 PM
I am not sure you can consider either companions reason for hanging around with you especially compelling.  You beat Khem in a fight and he spends the rest of the game screaming about eating people AND he swears revenge on you?  Qyzen lost his honor and considers you the herald of his deity because you rescue him?



That is nut-sack simple but accurate.

I think Khem finds you interesting - and convenient. He's in a new world, and maybe he sees more of his old Master in you that he lets on, either to you or to himself.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on November 29, 2011, 01:31:43 PM
Companion motivation chatter:

So for which is better mechanically, Qyzen seems to outdamage Khem. Khem gets some life drain stuff going on, but I'm not sure how much it really matters.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Pezzle on November 29, 2011, 01:33:05 PM
The point being that saying one of those stories is somehow superior and the other nonsense is baffling.  Why would you travel with a thing THAT WANTS TO EAT YOU?  The intention in this system is having companions with ideas and motivations that might not jive with what your own character believes, that's why.  


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on November 29, 2011, 01:33:57 PM
I kept hearing the Consular story was poor, but I kind of like it. It's hard to make a proper jedi interesting (they're basically shit happens let's all try and be calm types. Boooring. Every movie plot jedi was a SHIT jedi, order rules wise), but I think they did a great job of letting me be both humble and compassionate.
The male voice actor is so good in that role, at least following the light side path. And for release, I'll have to use the same avatard as I did in the 367 weekend, since that's what the voice is connected to in mah brain.

I liked Qyzen, he reminds me of my SWG character Sarsippius. Pez, not because you rescue him, but because you show him the path to return to honor and rack up a good score. I thought it was pretty well done.

I hope the Knight at some point gets a companion who is down with the dark side. T7 just didn't like me, and Kira likes my snarky replies, but not my habit of chopping people up and being generally unhelpful on unimportant (as I see them) missions. If it doesn't have anything to do with destroying the Sith Empire, it's a waste of his time!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Pezzle on November 29, 2011, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: Sky

I hope the Knight at some point gets a companion who is down with the dark side. T7 just didn't like me, and Kira likes my snarky replies, but not my habit of chopping people up and being generally unhelpful on unimportant (as I see them) missions. If it doesn't have anything to do with destroying the Sith Empire, it's a waste of his time!



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Furiously on November 29, 2011, 02:13:27 PM
Adding another BH one to the mix since I just finished the class line on Kaas:


edit: fail spoiler, -50 dkp.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 29, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
The point being that saying one of those stories is somehow superior and the other nonsense is baffling.  Why would you travel with a thing THAT WANTS TO EAT YOU?  The intention in this system is having companions with ideas and motivations that might not jive with what your own character believes, that's why.  

Because for now, he'll eat other people for me. In theory. Really, I just like that I can go "fuck it, Khem, could you eat this motherfucker?" in exasperation. Qyzen doesn't even have that going for him.


And put me down for liking the consular story (what I saw, anyway). The male voice actor is very good. Fordel hates the lady one, I am hoping he's just being too hard on her, the little I played of a female consular didn't put me off, though. He hears "bored," I hear "mellow." They're just mellow in general, both of them. Which makes spiking a huge rock off someone's face all the more satisfying.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 29, 2011, 05:59:12 PM
Trooper Companion Overview (In order of Appearance!) :

STOP READING SJOFN, GO AWAY! SHOO!

The First -

The Second -

The Third -

The Fourth -

The Fifth -


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 29, 2011, 06:02:51 PM
FINE BE THAT WAY


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 29, 2011, 06:19:24 PM
FINE BE THAT WAY

GO AHEAD, ROOOOOIIIN THE STORY FOR YOUR SELF. I WASH MY HANDS OF IT!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 29, 2011, 06:30:36 PM
I might, just because I know trooper is going to be one of my last classes to play through, and it seems rude to expect people to maintain radio silence on stories THAT long.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on November 29, 2011, 07:12:47 PM
I eagerly await the first fake story spoiler in the guild motd.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 29, 2011, 07:13:37 PM
Satele kills Dumbledore?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 29, 2011, 07:13:45 PM
I eagerly await the first fake story spoiler in the guild motd.

I await the one people think is fake but is actually 100% legit.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on November 29, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
Satele is your father.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on November 29, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
The male trooper romance is your secret sister?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 29, 2011, 09:02:01 PM
No?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 29, 2011, 09:02:24 PM
Oh, Fordel.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on November 29, 2011, 10:01:21 PM
Is Darth Jadus a romance option for the agents? My gender choice is riding on that :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 30, 2011, 02:35:24 AM
I eagerly await the first fake story spoiler in the guild motd.

I await the one people think is fake but is actually 100% legit.

(http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=5816;type=avatar)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 30, 2011, 02:35:59 AM
God I can't stop laughing at that.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Maledict on November 30, 2011, 06:08:25 AM
Perplexed by how they will add gay romance options as a post launch feature. Do you continue to adventure, meet new companions etcat level 50 or will you have to go back to earlier zones? I know its not hugely relevant to most but purely in terms of mechanics I wonder how they plan on doing that.

It's nota proper bio ware game without also fulfilling my dating sim requirements!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 30, 2011, 07:07:20 AM
Just ask yourself "what would warcraft do?".

In this case, increase the cap to level 60, insert companion at level 51.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Amaron on November 30, 2011, 07:58:05 AM
Adding another BH one to the mix since I just finished the class line on Kaas:


edit: fail spoiler, -50 dkp.  :uhrr:


Agreed.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: luckton on November 30, 2011, 08:04:33 AM

Play Republic then.  Even with the LS/DS choices, you have to accept the general vibe that Rep = LS and Emp = DS, with the overall story progression being sided respectively for either.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on November 30, 2011, 08:16:21 AM
Yeah, but


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Amaron on November 30, 2011, 08:16:56 AM
Quote
Play Republic then.

It wasn't a dark/ls thing at all.  It was just totally out of character for a bounty hunter evil or not evil.   Why care about money if that's the way you do things?

Yeah, but

I didn't know that but it still makes little sense.  I guess I see where they got it from.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on November 30, 2011, 08:52:16 AM
Bleeding hearts... all of you.


edit: fix'd.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on November 30, 2011, 08:54:22 AM
Ok, I'll just stop reading this thread.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 30, 2011, 12:59:22 PM
Perplexed by how they will add gay romance options as a post launch feature. Do you continue to adventure, meet new companions etcat level 50 or will you have to go back to earlier zones? I know its not hugely relevant to most but purely in terms of mechanics I wonder how they plan on doing that.

It's nota proper bio ware game without also fulfilling my dating sim requirements!

They will almost certainly add new companions at some point. That's one way they could handle it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 30, 2011, 03:20:38 PM
The Romance convo's all happen on your ship basically, it wouldn't be hard at all to add in another that makes your potential gay love interest go "I've never thought of you that way, TILL NOW!", then you just go through them as normal.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Amaron on November 30, 2011, 03:25:59 PM
The Romance convo's all happen on your ship basically

Can't you have them in the Cantina?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on November 30, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
Someone want to jump on the sword and romance Khem?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Pezzle on November 30, 2011, 03:28:48 PM
No?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 30, 2011, 03:32:40 PM
Don't think he's an option for that.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 30, 2011, 03:58:59 PM
The Romance convo's all happen on your ship basically

Can't you have them in the Cantina?


Not the specific Romance ones for the most part. A few other personal and story driven convo's, require you to be on your ship. The companion will tell you specifically, "I need to talk to you on the ship" instead of the usual "We need somewhere private".

The convo's will make use of your ships holo terminal, or specific rooms on the ship etc.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Furiously on November 30, 2011, 04:43:24 PM
I need a bigger bed....


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Der Helm on November 30, 2011, 04:47:03 PM
I need a bigger bed....
For Khem ?  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 30, 2011, 05:01:00 PM
He DOES keep talking about how much he loves eating force users, maybe he meant ...


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on November 30, 2011, 05:16:53 PM
He DOES keep talking about how much he loves eating force users, maybe he meant ...

K bai!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 30, 2011, 05:17:33 PM
He DOES keep talking about how much he loves eating force users, maybe he meant ...

(http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=5816;type=avatar)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on December 04, 2011, 11:54:31 AM
Internet wisdom seems to suggest:

Awesome plotlines:
 - Inquistor
 - Smuggler
 - Agent

Good plotlines:
 - Warrior
 - Trooper

Mediocre plotlines:
 - Bounty Hunter
 - Consular
 - Knight


Is this about right?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: SnakeCharmer on December 04, 2011, 11:55:48 AM
Someone want to jump on the sword and romance Khem?

well, he does have plenty of holes to..

oh God....

 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on December 04, 2011, 06:17:54 PM
If the Consular's plot is mediocre, I'm psyched. I've heard BH was good, too. People's opinions and variable mileage and whatnot. I've heard a lot of people like the agent plot, though.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 04, 2011, 06:44:56 PM
Of the stories I played anything like a decent amount of time with:

Inquisitor - Probably my favorite. This is entirely because of the pure goddamn camp factor for me. The inquisitor knows exactly what sort of universe s/he is in, and both voice actors are hilarious. I like this because it makes being a 'bad' Sith (that is, someone who mostly picks light side) make more sense, really. S/he's just fucking with everyone. The actual PLOT plot, though, might not actually grab everyone, but who cares your character is hilarious.

Agent - Also really good, and also a class where picking light side shit is going to make sense (sometimes, anyway). Gives you a good sense of what being Empire is like for non-force users (which is to say, you might still be a Space Nazi if that's how you want to roll, but at least you're not crazy). Also, you sleep with half the galaxy, as far as I can tell, so that's always nice.

Consular - Played this the most. I can see how people might not like it, because the whole thing just feels very ... zen. The story also feels more personal, in that while what you're doing can affect a lot of people, it's not like, say, the Agent. Everything the Agent is doing is for THE EMPIRE. The consular is doing stuff on a smaller scale (though it has the potential to blow up into something bigger, and I have no idea if it ever does, since I only hit 23-ish). At the same time, it's not personal like the inquisitor's, where everything the inquisitor is doing is basically for his/her personal gain and/or amusement.

Smuggler - I played this to level 2. By level 2, I had all the motivation I needed to play a smuggler. It has the best hook for sure.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: murdoc on December 04, 2011, 06:57:07 PM
Of the chars I got to level 10, I thought the Bounty Hunter plot was ok and the Trooper one was weak. Sith Inquisitor was decent and the Warrior one had it's moments. The Smuggler one was really good for the 5 levels I played it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on December 04, 2011, 07:06:52 PM
The smuggler indeed has the best "why should I give a shit about this"


I like the consular storyline. It's kind of cliche-ish, and very very "hey, Jedi are supposed to be pretty chill folks in tune with everything", but I think the idea and acting are top notch for what it's supposed to be portraying.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 04, 2011, 08:01:46 PM
I only had a chance to really play two classes, since I was away for most of Thanksgiving.  The Inquisitor was awesome, but I think at least 50% of that might have been because of the awesome dialog choices and voice acting.  The Trooper was kind of weak though, to be honest.

Sounds like I'll like the Consular, because serene is mostly how I figure a force focused Jedi should be.  Sort of a young Qui Gon-ish I would assume.  And I heard (not just here) that the IA can really slut it up, which could be entertaining for a change.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on December 05, 2011, 02:48:13 AM
The trooper thing didn't hook me until the end of the first planet, after that I quite liked it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: murdoc on December 05, 2011, 10:05:10 AM
The trooper thing didn't hook me until the end of the first planet, after that I quite liked it.

The Trooper story seems like the first planet was just a set up for the next 40 levels, where most of the other stories got things going right away. I can see the Trooper getting better as you go.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on December 05, 2011, 11:01:46 AM
The trooper thing didn't hook me until the end of the first planet, after that I quite liked it.

Yeah, I was initially down on them but everyone saying the story was pretty cool forced me through.  The end of the first planet did indeed have me hooked.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 05, 2011, 03:16:55 PM
Regards to the Trooper Story (and some BH story)

Going to ruin like 30 levels of Trooper plot here:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on December 05, 2011, 03:22:24 PM
Shit, I *knew* I recognized Needles' voice.  That's awesome.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on December 05, 2011, 03:32:00 PM
(http://scottrubin.net/thisismymanhattan/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/needlesbttf.jpg)

?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: SnakeCharmer on December 05, 2011, 03:48:12 PM
The Imperial Agent story is, IMHO, the best in the game.  The gameplay is ok, not the best, but the story is really well done.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: murdoc on December 05, 2011, 04:02:10 PM
Regards to the Trooper Story (and some BH story)

Going to ruin like 30 levels of Trooper plot here:


The problem I had with the Trooper story was:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 05, 2011, 04:17:33 PM
Regards to the Trooper Story (and some BH story)

Going to ruin like 30 levels of Trooper plot here:


The problem I had with the Trooper story was:



That's fair enough, but there's always going to be that factor in these kinds of games. Especially if you've played a few Bioware games in your time, you'll be able to recognize the setups and tricks well in advance. I totally gamed more then one story choice with "CONSEQUENCES" because I was familiar with that particular story device. 'Oh I've danced to THIS song before, you can't fool me!'


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Pezzle on December 05, 2011, 06:12:04 PM
Yeah, I had the Consular story nailed on the second planet.  You can still get entertainment (and hilarious one liners) out of it though.  Bioware games, try not to overthink. 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on December 06, 2011, 09:08:36 AM
Regards to the Trooper Story (and some BH story)

Going to ruin like 30 levels of Trooper plot here:


The problem I had with the Trooper story was:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on December 06, 2011, 09:39:57 AM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: murdoc on December 06, 2011, 10:02:35 AM



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 06, 2011, 03:53:13 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: calapine on December 07, 2011, 06:18:56 PM
This isn't particularly spoily, because I am going to be vague:

The inquisitor starting companion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consular starting companion. Also everything that comes out of my inquisitor's mouth is solid fucking gold.

Does Sith Inquistor force you to be a douche-bag? I only played mine to level 4, but all dialog choices were various ways of showing the finger verbally. Oh and there was a lot of bullying going on at a Sith Academy...

Edit: Thinking now that maybe I am not cut out for Sith? All I wanted to do is please my master, and if I have to kill hordes of innocent people for the empire at least be professional about it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on December 07, 2011, 06:22:59 PM
I don't think showing verbal fingers really counts as being a douchebag for the sith. More like par for the course.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 07, 2011, 06:27:25 PM
This isn't particularly spoily, because I am going to be vague:

The inquisitor starting companion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consular starting companion. Also everything that comes out of my inquisitor's mouth is solid fucking gold.

Does Sith Inquistor force you to be a douche-bag? I only played mine to level 4, but all dialog choices were various ways of showing the finger verbally. Oh and there was a lot of bullying going on at a Sith Academy...

Edit: Thinking now that maybe I am not cut out for Sith? All I wanted to do is please my master, and if I have to kill hordes of innocent people for the empire at least be professional about it.

As far as I can tell, being a sith involves being a douchebag, it's just a matter of what KIND of douchebag you want to be. My manquisitor decided he wanted to be the "fuck all y'all" kind of douchebag, where he sassed the shit out of his asshole instructor and picked light side choices just to fuck people over. I didn't feel like a douchebag (I am terrible at being evil or even just renegade in the case of the Mass Effects, if that helps you at all) as much as I felt like a troll. But given I was trolling crazy evil people, it was a good kind of trolling, if that makes sense.


EDIT: All that said, if you want to play Empire but not be a huge douchebag, you might be better off with the IA. All of Empire is some degree of douchebag, but the IA seemed like the least douchey of the douchebags. Which is saying something, seeing as how s/he is basically the secret police for the Space Nazis. But I didn't play the BH at all, so they might be even less douchey.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: calapine on December 07, 2011, 06:32:05 PM
As far as I can tell, being a sith involves being a douchebag, it's just a matter of what KIND of douchebag you want to be. My manquisitor decided he wanted to be the "fuck all y'all" kind of douchebag, where he sassed the shit out of his asshole instructor and picked light side choices just to fuck people over. I didn't feel like a douchebag (I am terrible at being evil or even just renegade in the case of the Mass Effects, if that helps you at all) as much as I felt like a troll. But given I was trolling crazy evil people, it was a good kind of trolling, if that makes sense.

Yes, that helps, thank you.

I have a hard time immersing myself with evil characters as well. At least as long as there is no way to justify the deed. (as in "Rachni are evil and dangerous. Of course you die! *pushes exterminate button*).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 07, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
The BH can be a enormous douche if you so choose, but it's mostly "Man, these fucking empire bastards are all crazy as shit, but their money is good so whatever".


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Jherad on December 07, 2011, 07:12:15 PM
Well, you get bottlenecked through some shared quest areas with conversations that essentially boil down to 'asshole? : yes/no' no matter what your class.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on December 07, 2011, 08:09:35 PM
I didn't feel particularly evil on my Inquisitor.  Manipulative, better than everyone, not willing to take crap, and fairly snarky, but not evil.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on December 14, 2011, 02:21:06 AM
Trooper spoiler as I complain a bit:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 02:42:55 AM
Trooper spoiler as I complain a bit:


a) You're playing a trooper?
b) Fordel is going to fistfight you for saying that.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 14, 2011, 02:48:48 AM
Trooper spoiler as I complain a bit:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 14, 2011, 02:49:07 AM
Kild is a known retard, so it's not surprising at all that's his reaction to the knowledge.  :why_so_serious:



Hey Kild:

Sjofn Don't Read This:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 02:52:55 AM
I appreciate your dedication to "SJOFN DON'T READ THIS" spoiler tags, Fordel.  :heart:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on December 14, 2011, 09:06:36 AM
Trooper spoiler as I complain a bit:


a) You're playing a trooper?
b) Fordel is going to fistfight you for saying that.

At the moment yes. SO MANY JEDI. SO MANY. And like, 3 smugglers in total.

b) screw him! I DON'T CARE WHAT SOCIETY THINKS!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2011, 09:10:18 AM
I didn't feel particularly evil on my Inquisitor.  Manipulative, better than everyone, not willing to take crap, and fairly snarky, but not evil.

Sigh, I have plans for my (possibly female) Inquisitor: a total babbling, cackling MUHAHAHA idiot. Hopefully I'll be able to play her like that  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 09:43:12 AM
Rasix started a BH, Chorulle is playing an Agent. I think everyone else is a Sith  :why_so_serious:

My favorite thing about BH (not really a story spoiler)



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on December 14, 2011, 11:17:19 AM
Rasix started a BH, Chorulle is playing an Agent. I think everyone else is a Sith  :why_so_serious:

I'll be a BH as well, just haven't gotten to get online yet... only another 5 hours.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2011, 04:20:30 PM
I didn't feel particularly evil on my Inquisitor.  Manipulative, better than everyone, not willing to take crap, and fairly snarky, but not evil.

Sigh, I have plans for my (possibly female) Inquisitor: a total babbling, cackling MUHAHAHA idiot. Hopefully I'll be able to play her like that  :why_so_serious:

You can, I am pretty sure, my inquisitor just elected not to be most of the time.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on December 14, 2011, 04:36:25 PM
just haven't gotten to get online yet...
Yet you're online RIGHT NOW!

 :drill:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on December 14, 2011, 05:36:58 PM
No that was posted with neutrino (FTL) speed.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 14, 2011, 05:40:05 PM
Tachyons!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Mazakiel on December 15, 2011, 01:55:08 AM
I don't think it's a spoiler really, but with the Inquisitor: 



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 15, 2011, 07:48:03 AM
I don't even know if this is really anything remotely spoily, but first smuggler companion spoilers, maybe, kinda?



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 18, 2011, 03:15:14 AM
More Corso nonsense:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on December 19, 2011, 10:28:44 AM
Smuggler act 1 spoilers, DO NOT CLICK:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on December 19, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
JK Spoilers, sort of:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on December 19, 2011, 01:13:58 PM
JK Spoilers, sort of:


That applies to the trooper as well.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Thrawn on December 19, 2011, 01:23:34 PM
Jedi Consular storyline comment -



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on December 19, 2011, 02:43:20 PM
Jedi Consular storyline comment -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7XVcqZodAM 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 19, 2011, 03:25:57 PM
EVEN MORE Corso Romance Nonsense, I should start my own "Sjofn bitches about Corso" thread so I can just post at myself:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 19, 2011, 04:24:51 PM
It sounds like you'd have better luck with Qyzen.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 19, 2011, 04:50:09 PM
Qyzen at least doesn't do any ridiculous white knight bullshit, it's true.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on December 19, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
OK, got to the point in consular story where you get the spaceship. Something got me curious in the part right before...



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 19, 2011, 06:09:57 PM
OK, got to the point in consular story where you get the spaceship. Something got me curious in the part right before...


I didn't have trouble, but I went in probably two levels HIGHER than recommended for that, as I did all the heroic quests in a duo with Ingmar before getting to that point. Plus she's a sage. Sages don't have trouble with much.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 19, 2011, 06:12:33 PM
The games damage/hit is very level dependent. You'll take considerably more damage and deal out considerably less if you are enough levels behind a mob. 3-4 levels if I remember right.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on December 19, 2011, 06:13:53 PM
I didn't have trouble, but I went in probably two levels HIGHER than recommended for that, as I did all the heroic quests in a duo with Ingmar before getting to that point. Plus she's a sage. Sages don't have trouble with much.  :why_so_serious:
Yeah, if i had any sort of heal for the lizard guy to keep him up just a little longer it'd be trivial i reckon. But as it was, it was just our combined dps and health pool vs the other guy, and he had advantage in both fields :grin:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 21, 2011, 04:24:01 PM
Corso companion quest shit:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on December 21, 2011, 05:25:30 PM
Gameplay-related question about the final mission of the Trooper second storyline (assault on the gauntlet or sommat):


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 21, 2011, 05:30:32 PM
Zetor:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on December 21, 2011, 06:03:10 PM
Thxinfo! (moar spoilers regarding the trooper storyline inside)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 21, 2011, 08:47:40 PM
Thxinfo! (moar spoilers regarding the trooper storyline inside)




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Threash on December 24, 2011, 09:40:41 PM
End of inquisitor act 1 stuff:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Azuredream on December 25, 2011, 07:36:06 AM
End of inquisitor act 1 stuff:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Threash on December 25, 2011, 08:12:57 AM
I interrupted on cd, wasn't enough to beat her without a companion though. I got her easily once Khem got back though.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Thrawn on December 26, 2011, 11:25:35 AM
This is kinda storyline I guess.  Does anyone else find it amusing that on Tatooine you have a lot of missions that involve killing Sand People, tons of bonus missions that are killing Sand People, quests about Sand People attacking people etc...

But really, it's the Republic pretty much invading the Sand Peoples homes and they are just defending their land?  :uhrr:

Or am I missing something in the story?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on December 26, 2011, 11:59:13 AM
The Republic has acquired Tatooine for 24 credits.

Filthy natives just don't know how to honour their deals.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on December 26, 2011, 12:02:04 PM
This is kinda storyline I guess.  Does anyone else find it amusing that on Tatooine you have a lot of missions that involve killing Sand People, tons of bonus missions that are killing Sand People, quests about Sand People attacking people etc...

But really, it's the Republic pretty much invading the Sand Peoples homes and they are just defending their land?  :uhrr:

Or am I missing something in the story?

There are some funnier ones where you look at the republic and go "uh, guys? this is TOTALLY NOT COOL"


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 01, 2012, 12:04:01 PM
More Corso romance, because I hate myself and can't keep myself from seeing how deep this rabbit hole goes:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 01, 2012, 12:22:37 PM
It definitely sounds like Kalah would be better off dating pigeons (or for that matter, partridges)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 01, 2012, 12:23:27 PM
Oh man, tell me about it. At least Fatbird knew what he wanted, and knew how to get it, baby.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 01, 2012, 12:24:33 PM
And he kept her head!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 01, 2012, 12:26:28 PM
He's a sentimental old fool, that Fatbird.  :heart:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 01, 2012, 01:15:43 PM
I must admit... the jedi consular act 1 ending class quest was pretty epic. Really felt like a hero doing it and after. Kudos for the good story telling/playing. However, the zone is buggy as shit.

Not really any spoilers since I don't feel like writing down the run through, but wanted to note the quest was inspiring.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on January 01, 2012, 01:22:40 PM
Yeah, the trooper end-of-storyline missions (all 3 acts) were pretty nifty so far as well, made me feel like I was playing Mass Effect for a bit. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on January 01, 2012, 01:55:46 PM
I must admit... the jedi consular act 1 ending class quest was pretty epic. Really felt like a hero doing it and after. Kudos for the good story telling/playing. However, the zone is buggy as shit.

Not really any spoilers since I don't feel like writing down the run through, but wanted to note the quest was inspiring.

So then it makes up for the Knight, which was ok but uninspiring in any way.  I mean, I get what the Knight was trying to do but meh.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 01, 2012, 01:59:12 PM
Act 2 to Act 3 transition for the knight is WAY more interesting than the consular's though. In my opinion, anyway.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Azuredream on January 01, 2012, 02:03:39 PM
Inquisitor storyline:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 01, 2012, 04:22:47 PM
Curious about consular act 1...



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Trippy on January 01, 2012, 04:27:51 PM
This is kinda storyline I guess.  Does anyone else find it amusing that on Tatooine you have a lot of missions that involve killing Sand People, tons of bonus missions that are killing Sand People, quests about Sand People attacking people etc...

But really, it's the Republic pretty much invading the Sand Peoples homes and they are just defending their land?  :uhrr:

Or am I missing something in the story?
Tyhon is the same way to me. As a Jedi the first thing you are tasked to do is crush an indigenous sentient species.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 01, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
Curious about consular act 1...




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 01, 2012, 04:51:45 PM



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 01, 2012, 04:54:53 PM



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on January 01, 2012, 08:59:51 PM
BH Continuity fail on Belsalvis:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on January 01, 2012, 09:46:55 PM
BH Continuity fail on Belsalvis:


Maybe he just says that to piss you off (you meaning your BH).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 01, 2012, 11:36:00 PM



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 02, 2012, 12:26:51 PM
BH Continuity fail on Belsalvis:


Smugglers on Voss fail harder, imo:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: rattran on January 02, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
Voss has issues:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 02, 2012, 05:49:50 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 03, 2012, 04:11:29 PM
So I am beginning to see why people were all "the consular story is sort of meh."

Act 1 nattering:


Act 2 nattering:


Partial Act 3 nattering:


In case you're wondering where your dose of Corso Riggs hate is, I've been slacking on playing Kalah because I am apparently terrible at being a gunslinger and it's got me down. Hopefully Ingmar will allow Kalah to piggyback on his trooper once he catches up. Because I know you all need to know what Corso will do next to make me pull an eye-rolling muscle.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 03, 2012, 04:35:05 PM
Act 1 nattering:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 03, 2012, 04:41:14 PM



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 03, 2012, 04:47:50 PM


 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on January 03, 2012, 06:20:31 PM
The ending (I think? Didn't quite finish Act 3 yet) of the Vette romance arc had one of the funniest lines in the game. Didn't expect... that. :grin:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on January 03, 2012, 09:36:07 PM
So I am beginning to see why people were all "the consular story is sort of meh."

Act 1 nattering:


Act 2 nattering:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: rattran on January 04, 2012, 01:53:08 AM
Nattering about BH act 3:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 04, 2012, 02:23:58 AM
So I am beginning to see why people were all "the consular story is sort of meh."

Act 1 nattering:


Act 2 nattering:




More Act 3 Consular nattering:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Wolf on January 04, 2012, 02:55:39 AM
I'm going to start a duo republic side alt that I'll play on and off with a friend, which one should I choose between JK and Trooper story wise?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on January 04, 2012, 12:08:27 PM
Trooper is always the correct choice.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Pezzle on January 04, 2012, 12:42:46 PM
Trooper


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 04, 2012, 01:01:17 PM
Depends whether you enjoy kicking Darth ass or kicking stormtrooper ass, really.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on January 04, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
Depends whether you enjoy kicking Darth ass or kicking stormtrooper ass, really.

I've probably killed more Darth's then you have  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 04, 2012, 01:05:28 PM
I dunno, I fight at least one every planet it seems like. I guess technically some of those are Lords and not Darths.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on January 04, 2012, 01:06:36 PM
What's your friend playing?  You don't have to have two of the same base class.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 04, 2012, 01:12:16 PM
I strongly suspect you kill more sith as a sith than as a jedi.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on January 04, 2012, 01:13:47 PM
I strongly suspect you kill more sith as a sith than as a jedi.


This is true!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 04, 2012, 03:38:47 PM
My body count knows no boundaries. I tell you what though... any mention of the words "airlock" and "decision" in a cutscene makes me giddy...


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 04, 2012, 10:00:31 PM
I strongly suspect you kill more sith as a sith than as a jedi.

This is true!
The reverse also seems to be true, for consulars at least :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 04, 2012, 11:47:29 PM
You dark side consulars give my light side consular a headache.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 05, 2012, 02:33:49 AM
I was speaking purely theoretically and basing on 01101010's report! My consular is actually shamefully nice and can't quite seem to find good motivation to really slip to the dark side -- she's ~1k short from light 3 overall and the meter keeps growing :uhrr:

Qyzen still loves her, though.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 05, 2012, 06:23:24 AM
By the middle of act 2 I think my assassin has only killed 3 jedi who actually had a name.

Only 1 of those was my fault, the other 2 have themselves entirely to blame.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on January 05, 2012, 06:40:20 AM
I'm only level 11 on my Marauder and he killed 6 people before he was even off of Korriban and was instrumental in the death or maiming of 3 others.  I've been on Dromund Kaas ~1 hour and I've killed 2 that weren't combat encounters, ~15 if you include the combat encounters. All these ares just STORYLINE deaths, not side-quests.

 :drill:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 05, 2012, 07:43:14 AM
I was speaking purely theoretically and basing on 01101010's report! My consular is actually shamefully nice and can't quite seem to find good motivation to really slip to the dark side -- she's ~1k short from light 3 overall and the meter keeps growing :uhrr:

Qyzen still loves her, though.

I have been Dark Side V since level 22ish. I can not bring myself to ever select a light side option now. I AM IN TOO DEEP! I just keep adding to the body count and someday, the Council will know my name is the Lord!  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 05, 2012, 11:45:37 AM
Cademimu dark/light side irritation:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Thrawn on January 05, 2012, 11:57:52 AM
I have been Dark Side V since level 22ish. I can not bring myself to ever select a light side option now. I AM IN TOO DEEP! I just keep adding to the body count and someday, the Council will know my name is the Lord!  :why_so_serious:

You must run a lot of flashpoints or something?  At 31 my Shadow is only Dark III and I've taken all dark options every time it's an option.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Maledict on January 05, 2012, 12:06:40 PM
I wouldn't bother even trying to question the logic of that particular choice. It's utter garbage, and is only there because each zone must have a light / dark side option apparently.

There's quit a few like that sprinkled throughout the game and it's quite jarring to come across them because they are so obviously completely bloody stupid.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 05, 2012, 12:34:57 PM
How in god's name do I get dark side points for shooting at the aggressors?
You instigate open hostilities with political 'superpower' entity you have truce with and who isn't attacking you (the planet isn't part of the Empire) effectively providing a potential pretext for starting Star Wars equivalent of world war 3 (where it can be avoided) For what's worth, it's viewed the same if you do it on the republic side.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 05, 2012, 12:38:08 PM
How in god's name do I get dark side points for shooting at the aggressors?
You instigate open hostilities with political 'superpower' entity you have truce with, effectively providing a potential pretext for starting Star Wars equivalent of world war 3 (where it can be avoided) For what's worth, it's viewed the same if you do it on the republic side.

By that point in the story on both sides I believe the truce has been broken by the "other" side. They actually really get strange about the truce, since it shows up and leaves completely at random. I know at one point in my plot line someone offhandedly remarks "oh guess what, we just declared war again" and does something, and this is never ever mentioned again. In the next scene everyone is acting really worried that their actions will violate the truce that I was just told was gone.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 05, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
I have been Dark Side V since level 22ish. I can not bring myself to ever select a light side option now. I AM IN TOO DEEP! I just keep adding to the body count and someday, the Council will know my name is the Lord!  :why_so_serious:

You must run a lot of flashpoints or something?  At 31 my Shadow is only Dark III and I've taken all dark options every time it's an option.

I farmed Esseles for 250 dark side points a run... for a lot of runs.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 05, 2012, 06:07:35 PM
By that point in the story on both sides I believe the truce has been broken by the "other" side.
It comes at roughly the same time the start of consular act 2 happens and i'm not sure, it generally feels like there's hostilities here and there but when they break out the officials on the top on both sides insist it's been some 'rebel offshots' and whatnot -- neither side seems keen to actually declare "to hell with it and now you die", which can make some sense given the Republic situation but for the Empire i dunno. But then the farthest i followed their storylines so far was agent landing on Balmorra.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Soln on January 06, 2012, 02:24:22 PM
Without reading the thread, can someone reassure me that Corso Riggs becomes useful or interesting at SOME POINT?  Or can I look forward to better companions? 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 06, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Oh, I think you need to read the thread with regards to Corso Riggs.  :why_so_serious:

In fact, spoilery-ish crap that is NON-romance related:


If you don't mind Goddamn Wookiee Speak, Bowdaar isn't bad, though. I still haven't managed to claw along to get Companion Three, but she seems pretty awesome (as I've talked her a couple of times, she just isnt a COMPANION yet). Soloing as a gunslinger sucks.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 06, 2012, 02:46:32 PM
Soloing as a gunslinger sucks.
Soloing as sniper with Kaliyo is on the other hand :heart:  At least at the early levels, literally headshotting regular mobs on the spot from full health to zero just doesn't get old.

And my rifle is as long as my sniper is tall :grin:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 06, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
Hmm, should be about the same, you both have a tank companion and are both the pure DPS AC.  :headscratch:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 06, 2012, 02:52:03 PM
It didn't start to really suck until mid-20's for me. It's also possible I am simply terrible.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 06, 2012, 02:54:16 PM
Yeah mechanically i suspect it's similar but dunno, maybe it's just something about the sniper that makes it awesome.

Like not having Corso Riggs. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 06, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
Hmm, should be about the same, you both have a tank companion and are both the pure DPS AC.  :headscratch:

It may have to do with the mobs in question, too. I found the BH starter planet a lot easier than the Trooper starter.

Gunslinger shouldn't have issues until 30+ though imo. I can't think of anything I was struggling to heal through before Voss. Voss is what made me think "gunslingers are supposed to deal with this fight.. how?"


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 06, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
The last fight on Tatooine, I had to call in my sister to help (two gold stars, although one was CC'd for most of the fight). I just could not kill the sith gold star before she killed Corso, and then whelp, too fucking bad for me.

EDIT: And even on the stuff where I'm not technically having "trouble," I have a lot more damn downtime because I have to "drink" after most fights.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 06, 2012, 03:09:54 PM
The last fight on Tatooine, I had to call in my sister to help (two gold stars, although one was CC'd for most of the fight). I just could not kill the sith gold star before she killed Corso, and then whelp, too fucking bad for me.

EDIT: And even on the stuff where I'm not technically having "trouble," I have a lot more damn downtime because I have to "drink" after most fights.

My scoundrel enlisted help for that fight as well. Healing doesn't help, it's just a really crazy fight. I hear the soloing trick is to actually passive your companion and let the jedi get some crazy threat lead and "tank" for you.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 06, 2012, 03:12:35 PM
I find in quite a few fights it's better to switch off the auto from companion's taunt ability and handle that manually. Can spread the incoming damage better that way and the companion doesn't just keep taunting until it literally kills them (taking out the dps that'd otherwise win the fight)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 06, 2012, 04:06:47 PM
Oh CORSO.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 06, 2012, 04:15:14 PM
Oh CORSO.




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 06, 2012, 04:18:09 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on January 06, 2012, 08:51:57 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 07, 2012, 03:01:34 AM
End of Chapter 3 for the Consular, although I'm mostly avoiding talking in specifics:


Consular companion nattering:


I SHOULD do my smuggler next in order to continue the Corso Chronicles, but I think my trooper (who is the same level as her now) is going to be next.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on January 08, 2012, 02:32:56 PM
Consular companion nattering:

[snip]
(minor consular act 2 spoilers)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 08, 2012, 03:39:10 PM
Consular companion nattering:

[snip]
(minor consular act 2 spoilers)



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 08, 2012, 04:10:32 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Wolf on January 09, 2012, 04:42:09 AM
Act 1 end for the Agent broke any motivation I had to play her. I'm now playing a trooper and beeing a good little soldier picking all the light side choices, even when dark side is the obvious one  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 09, 2012, 06:45:23 AM
The last fight on Tatooine is pretty much impossible for any smuggler no matter what the spec. Nobody I know has been able to solo it: there's a constant stream of smugglers asking for help with it in chat.

As for later smuggler fun, maybe some of you have noticed the non-interactable green character in your XS medical bay? The one who has been there pretty much since Nar Shaddaa? Named "Ivory"? Well, eventually he shows up in the plot...at Belsavis. But not on your ship. Wow, that's a silly bug.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Tyrnan on January 09, 2012, 06:54:54 AM
The last fight on Tatooine is pretty much impossible for any smuggler no matter what the spec. Nobody I know has been able to solo it: there's a constant stream of smugglers asking for help with it in chat.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 09, 2012, 07:02:37 AM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 09, 2012, 08:18:35 AM
Since I couldn't talk with Sjofn last night in the game...



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 09, 2012, 08:25:21 AM
By Belsavis, I'm very happy to be a smuggler with loose ties to the Republic, because holy shit are they fuckups. Every single planet I've been to, it's:

a) We lost sensitive intel because, um, well, Lieutenant Freckles had to wipe his ass in the commode and he used the papers from the briefcase that have all our troop emplacements and then we forgot about them before we had to run away. Could you go fish them out of the toilet? Because we, um, have a manpower shortage. Yes, that's it.

b) Every planet builds its own superweapon. It's like a state flower or a community art project: you're supposed to build superweapons that threaten your own existence and then complain when someone might use them. Actually, this one hits a bit too close to home: it's like superweapons are Senatorial pork.

c) The Republic builds weapon prototypes and then does things like store them on a prison planet right next to the supermax cells. Weapon prototypes which happen to destroy security forcefields.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 09, 2012, 09:35:15 AM
The last fight on Tatooine is pretty much impossible for any smuggler no matter what the spec. Nobody I know has been able to solo it: there's a constant stream of smugglers asking for help with it in chat.

As for later smuggler fun, maybe some of you have noticed the non-interactable green character in your XS medical bay? The one who has been there pretty much since Nar Shaddaa? Named "Ivory"? Well, eventually he shows up in the plot...at Belsavis. But not on your ship. Wow, that's a silly bug.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 09, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
Oh yeah, I just got some help and got it done a long time ago. With a Jedi pal, it really did last about fifteen seconds.

Some companions are really hard to predict in terms of negative/positive reactions. Risha particularly is all over the place. She tends not to like things that make me seem too obedient to the Republic and she likes when I get my money, but what's really hard to tell is how she'll react to a get-my-money but also get-dark-side-points decision. She seems like she's really cold-hearted and then suddenly you'll get a big hit for doing something only mildly cold. Akaavi is also a bit hard to pin down.

I was kind of amazed in the early going how often [flirt] responses lead to your scoundrel going offscreen with your conversation partner. My character definitely should have space STD by now.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 09, 2012, 12:47:44 PM
Jedi Knight post-storyline romance tidbit spoilers:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on January 09, 2012, 12:53:37 PM
BH Romance Tidbit response



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 09, 2012, 12:54:40 PM
Since I couldn't talk with Sjofn last night in the game...




Also, people getting letters from their sweeties, I'm not getting letters from Lt. Boyfriend. I assume because I denied his promotion to Lt. Husband.  :why_so_serious:


EDIT: OH, and I also love how the Republic builds superweapons and stores them on a prison planet, in the same place where some of their really horrible prisoners are stores. It made my consular really think about the choices she's made in life. Perhaps that Hob girl has the right idea after all?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 09, 2012, 02:08:21 PM
The prison planet in general is full of WTF-REALLY? Republic stuff.


Though the whole prison thing is consistent with the Republic throughout--they're short on manpower because they're a bunch of wasteful asshats. They're spending bazillions of credits cleaning up Taris (and wasting the lives of troops and mercenaries) when their own CAPITAL is a fucking mess anywhere but near the Senate building.

About the main reason the Republic is still in business from what I can see is that the Sith are such an over-the-top murderous and treacherous bunch of nutjobs.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 09, 2012, 02:11:11 PM
Yeah Belsavis was just thing after thing after thing of "are you ... are you serious? Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?" I basically took every "wat" conversation option I could (and so did Ingmar, I suspect). Voss is a crazy feverdream of a planet, but Belsavis managed to come away with the biggest WTFs for me.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 09, 2012, 02:22:45 PM





Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on January 09, 2012, 03:05:09 PM
Wait.  So by not getting in a relationship, I'm not getting free blues and purples?

NOW it's gone from annoyance to... well, major annoyance.  Kind of depressed resignation really.  That's pretty unfair though.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 09, 2012, 03:08:55 PM
To clarify they're blue/purple companion gifts only for me so far.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 09, 2012, 03:13:05 PM
I guess she's finally returning the favor?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 09, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
Wait.  So by not getting in a relationship, I'm not getting free blues and purples?

NOW it's gone from annoyance to... well, major annoyance.  Kind of depressed resignation really.  That's pretty unfair though.

See what happens when you don't put out. Have we learned nothing?!  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 09, 2012, 03:22:53 PM
I did put out, and I'm not getting letters either. All because I didn't want Siala to marry Lt. Boyfriend!

rabblerabblemarriageisn'ttheonlywinconditionofrelationshipsrabble


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 09, 2012, 03:32:49 PM
Lt.Dan was just way too creepy for me. I put his shit in check.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 09, 2012, 03:38:14 PM
The prison planet in general is full of WTF-REALLY? Republic stuff.


Though the whole prison thing is consistent with the Republic throughout--they're short on manpower because they're a bunch of wasteful asshats. They're spending bazillions of credits cleaning up Taris (and wasting the lives of troops and mercenaries) when their own CAPITAL is a fucking mess anywhere but near the Senate building.

About the main reason the Republic is still in business from what I can see is that the Sith are such an over-the-top murderous and treacherous bunch of nutjobs.
Smuggler random spoily chatter line


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 09, 2012, 03:43:09 PM
After Jedi Knight Act 1 it all kind of feels like business as usual on Belsavis.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: rattran on January 09, 2012, 04:15:05 PM
On the Imp side, there were a few 'Why would they do that? Are they stupid?' dialogue choices about some of the Republic's design ideas.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Azuredream on January 09, 2012, 04:46:35 PM
Companion crossover  :grin:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 09, 2012, 05:48:17 PM
Ha, the companion crossover I experienced wasn't as fun:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on January 09, 2012, 06:46:45 PM
Maybe not as fun, but funny as hell.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 09, 2012, 06:48:10 PM
Ha, the companion crossover I experienced wasn't as fun:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 09, 2012, 07:26:26 PM
I don't know if it was the quantity that caused the writers to go crazy, but both the Empire and Republic act in such a colossally stupid and unsustainable manner that it actually starts to cause issues.


I get that the Star Wars world was never properly filled out in the films, and that the empire and republic in the EU is literally this retarded, but the situation in game prevents the opposing faction from ever feeling like a threat. Mortal peril only ever comes about as a result of your own side being galactically stupid or pointlessly malicious.


Also, on Hoth:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 09, 2012, 07:34:35 PM
In other news, Andronekus or whatever he is called is really starting to piss me off...


I'm guessing they were all out of florrid prose after they wrote Corso.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 09, 2012, 07:51:22 PM
Ahh, that's like half my conversations with Zenith.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on January 10, 2012, 04:07:55 AM
Some of the conversations must have been written just to annoy the player. Like this one conversation with Quinn. (de-spoilered paraphrase)

Quinn: So, the empire is in danger and so we must grab this particular piece of information.
Me: Huh, all right I guess.
Quinn: It's highly secured. We'd need to get a disguise, bypass 4 security stations, seduce the guard lady to grab her access code, sneak past a hundred security droids, then break the safe combination while hanging upside down from the ceiling.
Me: OMG, that sounds awesome! Let's do that!
Quinn: I'll get to it right away, my Lord. I'll contact you as soon as I'm done.
<fade to black>
Me: What!?
<fade in>
Quinn: I'm done. Nothing I couldn't handle.
Me: But... But *I* wanted to do that mission! :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on January 10, 2012, 04:10:18 AM
Same thing with Liberty PrimeForex for troopers and the random missions of asskickery he decides to do occasionally. Though the over-the-top way he narrates the events afterwards (and the general HAM FACTOR) makes it a lot more  :awesome_for_real: than  :oh_i_see:.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 10, 2012, 04:27:48 AM
Andronikus followup, the mysterious funny noise has been resolved...


Starting to think inquistors get seriously gypped on the companion front. Not least as it also seems Ashara is a sexist cow and refuses to gain affection for gifts from female characters.

At least we have Talos.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on January 10, 2012, 05:39:58 AM
Wait.  So by not getting in a relationship, I'm not getting free blues and purples?

Ingmar clarified it was only comp. gifts.  I guess to make-up for ignoring your other companions?   I didn't get one yesterday so it could be you only get 2, or maybe it's triggered by additional +companion status.  I don't know.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 10, 2012, 08:15:01 AM
Gee, I love Risha and Akaavi's dialogues for the most part. I haven't talked with Bowdaar in ages, and the last time was just some short thing about how slavery is bad.

Guss was hilarious on Hoth, I have no idea what he'll be like in companion dialogues as I haven't really used him yet and he's had almost no affection gains. I should take him out soon and shower him with gifts to see what he's on about. He's a healer, so not too helpful for a sawbones.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 10, 2012, 09:12:36 AM
Lt. Boyfriend must've felt my RAEG, because suddenly I have a letter from him! Not sure why he took longer to write me than Kira took to write Ingmar, as I was up in what I assume is the letter zone a while ago. Maybe he just needed time to get over my cruel rejection of his proposal?  :why_so_serious:

The gift was just a level 1 purple gift, which will be nice for an alt, but not much use for Siala. The important thing was the letter, though, that was the part I was pissy about. SO. Marriage is not the "win condition" of the romances after all, which makes me happy.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on January 10, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
I am about ready to get access to Tanno Vik and I hope he is interesting because MX (despite having a great VA) is not and both Dorne and Jorgan are even more boring.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 10, 2012, 12:54:26 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 10, 2012, 01:37:14 PM
Lt. Boyfriend must've felt my RAEG, because suddenly I have a letter from him! Not sure why he took longer to write me than Kira took to write Ingmar, as I was up in what I assume is the letter zone a while ago. Maybe he just needed time to get over my cruel rejection of his proposal?  :why_so_serious:

The gift was just a level 1 purple gift, which will be nice for an alt, but not much use for Siala. The important thing was the letter, though, that was the part I was pissy about. SO. Marriage is not the "win condition" of the romances after all, which makes me happy.

He's a dude, of course it takes forever for him to think "maybe she wants a letter, but why? I mean she sees me EVERY FREAKING DAY" <3


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 10, 2012, 02:50:10 PM

There's stuff like this that I think to myself, that HAS to be on purpose, right? RIGHT?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 10, 2012, 05:19:18 PM
A simple thing that shows exactly what's wrong with the Republic...

... no single vendor in Quesh sells breathing masks :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Azuredream on January 10, 2012, 11:10:13 PM
JK Act 3 spoilers



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 10, 2012, 11:11:24 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 11, 2012, 01:25:44 AM
Also JK Act 3:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on January 11, 2012, 04:19:19 AM
Adding some SW Act 3 spoilers to the JK one: (as the two are related)



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on January 11, 2012, 06:36:17 AM
They did do a good job of sort of intertwining a lot of story threads between classes and factions.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 11, 2012, 08:31:10 AM
More on Belsavis:

 



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 11, 2012, 09:00:34 AM
More on Belsavis:

 



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on January 11, 2012, 09:06:55 AM
(Alderaan spoilers)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on January 11, 2012, 10:47:27 AM
Also JK Act 3:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 11, 2012, 10:51:40 AM



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 11, 2012, 08:49:27 PM
Jovian IS: the Worst Sith.

Balmorra and Inquisitor Act 1 stuff:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: rattran on January 12, 2012, 01:44:46 AM
Re: That Dark Side Lady


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on January 12, 2012, 10:50:22 AM
Just a note, I hit a spot where Mako's quest took me to Nar Shaddaa for a level 48 companion quest...the mob was a level 38 gold. So you might want to try it early just in case.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on January 12, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
Just a note, I hit a spot where Mako's quest took me to Nar Shaddaa for a level 48 companion quest...the mob was a level 38 gold. So you might want to try it early just in case.

At least some of the companion quests are also entirely noncombat. So, yeah, just try it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 12, 2012, 11:35:42 AM
Jovian IS: the Worst Sith.

Balmorra and Inquisitor Act 1 stuff:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on January 12, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
At least some of the companion quests are also entirely noncombat. So, yeah, just try it.

I started taking level seriously when her previous mission got me jumped by two +8 mobs, both strong or better.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on January 12, 2012, 02:07:33 PM
Jovian IS: the Worst Sith.
Jovian needs to meet Kylantha.  She's not nice but does things similarly.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Mazakiel on January 12, 2012, 02:29:39 PM
I've actually felt a bit guilty at times at some of the stuff my evil Inquisitor(s) have done.  That being said, this is the first Bioware game in a long time that I've had fun playing an evil bastard. 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on January 12, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
Yeah, I gotta say some of the stuff my agent does is just  :ye_gods: :why_so_serious:.

It's amusing how dark side choices on the republic side are "take this uberweapon for the republic instead of destroying it" / "kill my longtime nemesis instead of taking him prisoner" while on the sith side they are "perform genocide on this planet's natives, then take this stray puppy, bite its head off, shrug, and walk away".


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: CmdrSlack on January 12, 2012, 02:56:47 PM
As my inquisitor would say, "Yawwwwwn."


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 12, 2012, 02:58:45 PM
Re: That Dark Side Lady

Yeah, I figured as much, since she wasn't a class-specific lady.

Jovian IS: the Worst Sith.
Jovian needs to meet Kylantha.  She's not nice but does things similarly.

Someday, maybe!  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on January 12, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
As my inquisitor would say, "Yawwwwwn."

 :heart:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 12, 2012, 06:11:37 PM
Yeah, seriously,  the Sith storylines are not just the old Bioware, "Evil is being kind of a dick." They are "Evil is trying to make Hitler look like a little girly amateur."


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: CmdrSlack on January 12, 2012, 07:47:04 PM
Unless I have Ashoka Ashara in my party, I pretty much play full-on douche canoe with my sorc.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 12, 2012, 08:24:24 PM
What I enjoy is I have been called out several times for not being a douche canoe so far. I love that even the NPCs are like "What is wrong with you?" It's like they spent a bunch of time stressing out about what an asshole I was going to be to them, and are annoyed they wasted the energy.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 13, 2012, 04:08:40 AM
Man, I got 150 dark side points on my manquisitor for sleeping with someone. What am I, a Jedi here?!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 13, 2012, 04:46:30 AM
Maybe your character has a space STD he spreads around :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on January 13, 2012, 05:16:39 AM
They also call that "Sith Corruption".


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 13, 2012, 04:12:26 PM
I know you can turn the visual off and all but it's kind of dumb to have a smuggler who is Light Side III get some varicose veins just because he's also got 1k dark side points. I'm not Sith-y, I don't have Force powers, etc.: surely not everyone in the SW universe who does something bad gets glowy red eyes and a skin condition. Jango Fett looked pretty clean-cut to me.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 13, 2012, 04:29:47 PM
My understanding has always been that sith corruption is based on net alignment.

Corruption on my dark side guys has always occurred exactly as they crossed the dark I/II/III alignment levels.

I agree it makes no sense outside of force users - but don't see the problem if you see it as a customisation option.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 13, 2012, 06:56:15 PM
My understanding has always been that sith corruption is based on net alignment.
Same; my consular has 1850 dark side points at the moment but you'd never know, because she's at net +3650 and could easily do the "after" cosmetics commercials.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 13, 2012, 09:35:42 PM
My understanding has always been that sith corruption is based on net alignment.
Same; my consular has 1850 dark side points at the moment but you'd never know, because she's at net +3650 and could easily do the "after" cosmetics commercials.

I started seeing varicose veins when my smuggler was at Light Side III in net alignment, so I wonder if it's not net, but just on X number of dark side points. He's got cybernetic eyes so it's hard to tell whether he was getting any glowiness.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 13, 2012, 09:51:20 PM
My understanding has always been that sith corruption is based on net alignment.
Same; my consular has 1850 dark side points at the moment but you'd never know, because she's at net +3650 and could easily do the "after" cosmetics commercials.

I started seeing varicose veins when my smuggler was at Light Side III in net alignment, so I wonder if it's not net, but just on X number of dark side points. He's got cybernetic eyes so it's hard to tell whether he was getting any glowiness.


Sadly, the eyes do not glow. Just turn blood red.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on January 13, 2012, 10:05:20 PM
Maybe he just needs more sleep.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on January 15, 2012, 08:35:10 AM
(Consular act2/3 spoilers)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 15, 2012, 09:12:51 AM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 15, 2012, 01:19:45 PM
Not spoilering this because it's not really a spoiler:

The order you get your companions, and how long you go before getting them all, is fucking retarded for some classes. There is zero reason the inquisitor should wait as long as it does for its second companion, let alone how long they wait for their healer, for example. I love the companions, but they could've done them way better in this regard. ><


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 15, 2012, 01:58:56 PM
Do they wait longer than consulars for the healer?

(and well, the ship robot is technically ghetto healer, i guess :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 15, 2012, 02:06:21 PM
They wait much longer, yes.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 15, 2012, 02:14:57 PM
Ouch. That's.... much longer, alright.

Guess it doesn't matter too much for the sorcerers but their stabby cousins... probably going FML.

Although on the other hand when i think about it, i pretty much rolled with Qyzen all way to Hoth and through it. The combined dps was generally more than enough to get stuff dead, and faster kills made up for the downtime afterwards.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 15, 2012, 02:21:59 PM
It's not as if his backstory is making that necessary either.

Also, not that impressed with the end of act 2


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 15, 2012, 02:37:45 PM
My manquisitor would definitely like his healer sooner rather than later. I picked up biochem on him to help ease the pain. :P

Speaking of Jovian:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Azuredream on January 15, 2012, 03:52:07 PM
Also, not that impressed with the end of act 2



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on January 15, 2012, 04:24:48 PM
I think the real problem with the companions is simply that their combat roles are not balanced at all, so for most builds the heal companion is easymode and everyone else is useless. If that weren't the case, the odd distribution of companions wouldn't bother people as much.

Best idea I heard so far: Allow the players to "respec" any companion we have into any of the 3 main combat roles. I doubt it would break the RP aspect if your DPS companion learned how to sling medkits and got a lower damage output to compensate.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 15, 2012, 04:29:15 PM
I think the real problem with the companions is simply that their combat roles are not balanced at all, so for most builds the heal companion is easymode and everyone else is useless. If that weren't the case, the odd distribution of companions wouldn't bother people as much.

Best idea I heard so far: Allow the players to "respec" any companion we have into any of the 3 main combat roles. I doubt it would break the RP aspect if your DPS companion learned how to sling medkits and got a lower damage output to compensate.

In my opinion, SW and JK classes should have a healbot as the first pet, then a ranged damage dealer. JC and SI should have the tank pet then a damage dealer pet. IA and Smug you can flip a coin with but I'd guess a tank pet then a healbot, and the BH / Trooper should get the tank then healbot. Though, seeing a Jawa that early in the game for BH might be a little breaking and way OP.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 15, 2012, 04:38:20 PM
JC and SI should have the tank pet then a damage dealer pet.
Except, you know, half of them can do damage and/or tank themselves, but can't heal.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 15, 2012, 04:52:37 PM
Yeah I'd do tank -> healer -> ranged DPS for consular/inquisitor, personally, although healer -> tank -> deepz works too, of course.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on January 15, 2012, 05:16:00 PM
I dunno, DPS -> Healer for Marauder has worked pretty well.  I don't even pull out Malvai because his healing is < the output of most mobs so the extra DPS from Vette is better to use.  I was getting swarmed and things were taking too long to kill when I had him out.

Some segment of it has to be personal playstyle; which is another argument in favor of 'let me spec my companions'


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Reg on January 15, 2012, 07:18:30 PM
Yeah I didn't realize how much I was depending on Vette's DPS skills until I took Quinn out a couple of times. The healing was nice but it was taking me absolutely forever to kill anything. Better to end up at a quarter health and need to use my self-heal than to take that long to finish a fight.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Malakili on January 16, 2012, 12:11:07 PM
Lt. Boyfriend must've felt my RAEG, because suddenly I have a letter from him! Not sure why he took longer to write me than Kira took to write Ingmar, as I was up in what I assume is the letter zone a while ago. Maybe he just needed time to get over my cruel rejection of his proposal?  :why_so_serious:

The gift was just a level 1 purple gift, which will be nice for an alt, but not much use for Siala. The important thing was the letter, though, that was the part I was pissy about. SO. Marriage is not the "win condition" of the romances after all, which makes me happy.

(http://penny-arcade.smugmug.com/photos/i-3vkFbxG/0/L/i-3vkFbxG-XL.jpg)

Source: http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/01/16


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ratman_tf on January 16, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
So far, the sith warrior story has been *YAWN!* but I must say,



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Reg on January 16, 2012, 03:06:45 PM
For me, the Sith Warrior story has been entirely awesome so far.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 16, 2012, 04:26:58 PM
End of inquisitor Belavis had me a bit confused.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Reg on January 16, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
That's really odd. Maybe Bioware just typed it backwards?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 16, 2012, 06:00:03 PM
The obvious conculsion would seem to be that


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Azuredream on January 16, 2012, 06:17:55 PM
SI Belsavis



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 16, 2012, 07:37:59 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 17, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
Just starting out on my manwhore gunslinger...



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 17, 2012, 01:42:47 PM
I am really enjoying the smuggler storyline so far (just started Nar Shaddaa). It doesn't have the 'important shit is happening to the galaxy' impact of the JK line, but that's OK.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on January 17, 2012, 01:50:12 PM
Best idea I heard so far: Allow the players to "respec" any companion we have into any of the 3 main combat roles. I doubt it would break the RP aspect if your DPS companion learned how to sling medkits and got a lower damage output to compensate.
Great idea.

So great it was the system that was in last year when I first started playing close attention to development. I really wish they had kept some semblence, though I can imagine why they changed it (gearing would get even more convoluted...) Would've been nice to have shared the story with someone besides Mako, I barely know any of the characters on my ship and they all have their starter gear.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 17, 2012, 01:53:06 PM
I am really enjoying the smuggler storyline so far (just started Nar Shaddaa). It doesn't have the 'important shit is happening to the galaxy' impact of the JK line, but that's OK.

EXACTLY. That is why it is fun as hell... I just got to Taris and I still get the old "SAVE US!! YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE!" quests... but the story arc is much more "internal." I like that.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 17, 2012, 02:00:58 PM
SI Belsavis




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on January 17, 2012, 02:09:11 PM
I am really enjoying the smuggler storyline so far (just started Nar Shaddaa). It doesn't have the 'important shit is happening to the galaxy' impact of the JK line, but that's OK.

EXACTLY. That is why it is fun as hell... I just got to Taris and I still get the old "SAVE US!! YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE!" quests... but the story arc is much more "internal." I like that.
One of the nice things with the BH line is a lot of "Woah, I'm not an Imperial, buddy. Can you afford me?" stuff.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 17, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
I am really enjoying the smuggler storyline so far (just started Nar Shaddaa). It doesn't have the 'important shit is happening to the galaxy' impact of the JK line, but that's OK.

EXACTLY. That is why it is fun as hell... I just got to Taris and I still get the old "SAVE US!! YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE!" quests... but the story arc is much more "internal." I like that.
One of the nice things with the BH line is a lot of "Woah, I'm not an Imperial, buddy. Can you afford me?" stuff.

Yeah, that was really appealing. Really made it "feel" as though you were truly a hired gun getting mixed up in shit along with your own god damn worries.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 17, 2012, 06:04:28 PM
Plus a lot of the smuggler dialogue choices are  :awesome_for_real:, and let you keep that sense of "Republic, I guess I'll help these schmucks, but I got my own shit to deal with too."


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Merusk on January 19, 2012, 06:35:55 AM
I got Jaesa Williams last night - (Thanks again for the help with that!)

She's quite the little psycho.  Fits the dark side Sith Warrior quite nicely but.. my god she's crazy.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on January 19, 2012, 08:08:24 AM
I completely skipped Taris and went straight to Nar Shaddaa last night and did only the class line to grab Bowdarr, seeing as I only seem to want to stab Corso in the eyes every chance I get. Interestingly, the fights were actually fights given that I was a level below or even with the mobs and it was for the most part quite enjoyable, rather than the facerolling through stuff I am out leveled for. That said, now I have to go back and do Taris with my wookie. That should be a hoot.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on January 19, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
Trooper Storyline:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on January 19, 2012, 09:01:28 AM
Plus a lot of the smuggler dialogue choices are  :awesome_for_real:, and let you keep that sense of "Republic, I guess I'll help these schmucks, but I got my own shit to deal with too."



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on January 19, 2012, 09:07:46 AM
Trooper Storyline:

(also see some earlier posts (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=21576.msg1022058#msg1022058) about this)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Khaldun on January 19, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
Plus a lot of the smuggler dialogue choices are  :awesome_for_real:, and let you keep that sense of "Republic, I guess I'll help these schmucks, but I got my own shit to deal with too."




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Mazakiel on January 19, 2012, 04:00:48 PM
I got Jaesa Williams last night - (Thanks again for the help with that!)

She's quite the little psycho.  Fits the dark side Sith Warrior quite nicely but.. my god she's crazy.

Yeah, I have Apprentice Envy now.  Ashara doesn't seem to fit into my happy band of psychos too well.  I know they need options for light side leaning Inquisitors, but...I was hoping to corrupt a Jedi and turn them into a psychopath.  Oh well, can look forward to it when I level a Warrior alt. 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 23, 2012, 03:09:08 PM
Hmm, ran into an oddity in the consular storyline, in act 3 on Voss. Wondering if that's a bug or cut content?



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 23, 2012, 03:10:46 PM
It is a narrative 'oops' but you didn't get shut out of anything.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 23, 2012, 03:31:17 PM
Ahh cool; i'll take a break with the storyline then and see if i can get them done, pretending the story update doesn't happen until then :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 23, 2012, 03:32:12 PM
They're a total trip and worth doing for sure.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on January 23, 2012, 05:21:32 PM
Best part of the whole planet.  And I liked Voss overall, actually.  Although the end was a little flat.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 27, 2012, 05:38:38 AM
IA/consular crossover?! (IA Balmorra story, late consular companion)



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on January 27, 2012, 02:50:43 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: tmp on January 27, 2012, 03:09:18 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 31, 2012, 05:26:39 PM
Jovian finally got his healing companion!

General companiony crap about him and Jovian's sort-of girlfriend, and act 2 shit:


He's about to start Belsavis but. Nngh. I hate Belsavis. I want to fast forward to Voss.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on February 01, 2012, 01:24:03 PM
Jovian finally got his healing companion!

General companiony crap about him and Jovian's sort-of girlfriend, and act 2 shit:


He's about to start Belsavis but. Nngh. I hate Belsavis. I want to fast forward to Voss.  :heartbreak:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on February 01, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
Hmph!

Inquisitor shit:


Jedi Knight Lady Romance Shit:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ratman_tf on February 02, 2012, 01:48:18 AM
Sith Warrior gets mind numbingly boring on Hoth. I'm back to skipping all the dialogue so I won't fall asleep.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on February 02, 2012, 04:23:29 AM
Yeah, but hang in there. Once you are done with Hoth the dull part of your story is over.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on February 11, 2012, 11:04:19 PM
Act Two Imperial Agent, with teeny mentions of Inquisitor Act 2:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on February 12, 2012, 04:33:33 AM
Yes, I am spamming this thread today.

Lollerskates @ Ashara (relationship crap):


In other news, Jovian's TRUE love, Talos, continues to be so fucking adorable I could scream. They should run away together.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on February 14, 2012, 11:44:08 PM
FINALLY.

Doc romance blah blah:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on February 29, 2012, 10:37:42 AM
Sith Warrior storyline, Chapter 3, Corellia:  MASSIVE SPOILERS -- DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU WANT TO KNOW



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on February 29, 2012, 10:57:11 AM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Threash on February 29, 2012, 11:18:23 AM
Sith Warrior storyline, Chapter 3, Corellia:  MASSIVE SPOILERS -- DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU WANT TO KNOW


It's a holdover from when you could permanently kill companions.  At the very very least they should have let you put Vette's old shock collar on him to keep him in line.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Jherad on February 29, 2012, 11:22:09 AM
I leveled my SW before the responsiveness fix, so it may be easier now, but some of the later fights were... frustrating. I made Sky sad with a bit of a rant about one in particular.


Completely agree with your last point though Lantyssa.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on February 29, 2012, 11:22:18 AM
That I'd be okay with.  As it stands?  No.  I'll resent it every time I'm reminded of it, which will be several times a play session.

I guessed at the reasoning, but because of those design changes, it takes a dramatic moment near the end of your story and makes it stupid and aggravating.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on February 29, 2012, 12:55:42 PM
There are a number of spots like that in various storylines - Jedi Knight has a couple spots where it is obvious you could lose a companion at one point - you can tell it was pretty late in the game that they had to remove that.

Players in the beta cried up a storm apparently when they realized they couldn't replace companions they killed. Maybe once they add more companions they can go back and put permanent companion loss back in or something.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on February 29, 2012, 01:32:10 PM
At the very very least they should have let you put Vette's old shock collar on him to keep him in line.
Slave keeps its collar and shuts its damned mouth.

Hell, I slap her when she does her area commentary.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on February 29, 2012, 06:46:38 PM
Sith Warrior storyline, Chapter 3, Corellia:  MASSIVE SPOILERS -- DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU WANT TO KNOW




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on February 29, 2012, 09:23:12 PM
There are a number of spots like that in various storylines - Jedi Knight has a couple spots where it is obvious you could lose a companion at one point - you can tell it was pretty late in the game that they had to remove that.

Players in the beta cried up a storm apparently when they realized they couldn't replace companions they killed. Maybe once they add more companions they can go back and put permanent companion loss back in or something.

Trooper and consular have spots like that too, yeah. Although not really as "zomg" as the SW one.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on March 05, 2012, 03:52:44 PM
I'm bored, so I am going to do a COMPANION RUN DOWN of my lady jedi knight and my gentleman trooper companions. I would do the IA and inquisitor too, but they're both still one companion shy because the pace at which they get companions is fucking retarded, and my dudes are still stuck on Belsavis (although my IA is close to the end, finally).

JEDI KNIGHT COMPANIONS


TROOPER COMPANIONS



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: proudft on March 05, 2012, 04:00:48 PM
Those are the same two classes I have with all their companions, and I agree with your findings.  Though I haven't really done any romance stuff.... YET.  Thus my Jedi ranking is slightly different:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on March 05, 2012, 04:38:36 PM
I think part of the reason T7 ranked so "low" for me is because I hauled around Kira until I got Doc, so he wound up being sort of forgotten in the hold of my ship. I liked talking to him, and he is totally adorable, but he didn't have much to add on his own once he got shackled to my crafting table. And Lord Spoiler is just such a huge, hilarious bitch sometimes if you're hauling him around on Corellia, I found myself pretty fond of him.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on March 05, 2012, 06:03:30 PM
While we are on companions, Xalek doesn't get enough press for the inquisitor.

Kind of like a less annoying version of Sten.

Almost all his responses are one word or less, but with every word you can feel him seething at the idiocy of everyone around him, and after 40+ levels of Imperial strategy & the incessant bullshit of Khem, Andro, and Ashara you can kind of see his point, so he comes across as entirely the most grounded individual you will meet no matter how much he likes kicking puppies.

Talos remains femquisitor's one true love, but Xalek easily supplants Ashara as first alternate companion.

Oh btw, you don't get him till the end of...  .... seriously...


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: 01101010 on March 05, 2012, 06:30:03 PM
I like all the comps for BH. Blizz is hilarious - always sounds like he has something urgent to say, then I click the chat box over and it's "Boss need Blizz, YAY!" or something. Gault is me in a character. His tone, his one liners, his flippant attitude. If he was a healer, I'd have him out all the time. Skag is your typical bouncer type *yawn*. Torian is cool for the "honorable one" but his lack of using nouns to construct a sentence grates on my nerves at times. IT IS "I AM GOING TO GO ON A HUNT. I'LL SEE YOU IN A MINUTE" not 'going on a hunt. back soon.'  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on March 05, 2012, 08:40:40 PM
Talos remains femquisitor's one true love, but Xalek easily supplants Ashara as first alternate companion.

Oh btw, you don't get him till the end of...  .... seriously...

Yeah, I knew that, it's just ridiculous. I don't understand wtf they were thinking with that.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on March 06, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
Pacing for the Inquisitor is all wrong, throughout the game, compared to the Warrior.  It was a stark contrast running through everything with one.




There were others, but those three stood out the most.  I can't think of any instance in which the Warrior had it worse than the Inquisitor.

When you get Xalek is just stupidly late, too.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on March 06, 2012, 01:45:37 PM

My Jugg, on the other hand, is slower but just plods through stuff...and he zipped ahead a bit and got his healing companion around level 20.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on March 06, 2012, 07:13:46 PM
If it helps, once my manquisitor got his second companion, things picked up considerably. And while I wanted my healer earlier even so, I didn't need him as much as I was afraid I would. I specced tanky, though, a DPS assassin might just be fucked.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on March 07, 2012, 05:17:44 AM
So I started my Jedi Knight, and reached Coruscant.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on March 07, 2012, 05:35:47 AM
If it helps, once my manquisitor got his second companion, things picked up considerably. And while I wanted my healer earlier even so, I didn't need him as much as I was afraid I would. I specced tanky, though, a DPS assassin might just be fucked.

Khem is ok, its a headache on the major boss fights, but get within a couple of levels of the boss and you are fine.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on March 07, 2012, 06:35:50 AM
I played so long ago I don't remember, unfortunately, but I did have her in orange pants eventually.  You may just have to keep using green ones till you find a pair on the AH (crafted).  I think Nar Shadaa has the orange shirt and headband (for cash), and the Alderaan Noble social armor has good looking orange pants (though you may have to un-mod it to bring it down to equippable at 14).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on March 07, 2012, 06:42:53 AM
If green pants exist that might not be a disaster, they don't on the empire side.

This is my first republic dude so I have no cash for trade network oranges.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on March 07, 2012, 09:06:16 AM
So much for annotating spoilers.  :oh_i_see:

You can get orange space pants easily. That's what my Shadow is wearing.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on March 07, 2012, 09:08:35 AM
I spoilered it to save others, but honestly....


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on March 07, 2012, 09:50:04 AM
Suck it up until you get your spaceship, buy orange pants off the ship upgrades yahoo with commendations, the end. I'm not sure if there are green pants Republic side, but there are some oj options.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on March 07, 2012, 10:12:12 AM
I spoilered it to save others, but honestly....
Honestly what? My Inq is level 18. For some people, playing alts and the class story lines are important. Until everyone (not just Nebu) has all 8 classes to 50, is it that difficult in the storylines (annotate your spoilers!) thread to slap a spoiler tag on things?

Maybe the first 20 levels isn't so bad, but I'd guess most people here have been to Hoth on a single class, maybe a couple at most.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on March 07, 2012, 11:03:51 AM
I have no issue with spoiler tags - companion back chat themes just seems to be a pretty low priority for them, but ok.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sky on March 07, 2012, 11:08:38 AM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 24, 2012, 08:15:31 PM
Sjofn just hit level 50 on a new class, time for some SPOILERS!

I'd go into more detail about the Imperial Agent class storyline, but frankly this trip through had long gaps between me playing it, so I don't quite remember everything with the clarity I would like. I will, however, say that this was probably my favorite storyline so far, and that I am glad I did the bulk of it after doing most of the Republic side stories, because there are about a gazillion throwaway references to them that I would have missed otherwise.

Even though I am of the opinion the Empire is stupid, I went into this planning on playing Joshua the Imperial Agent as a patriot, who would do whatever was best for the Empire, dark side or light side be damned. However, for my own sanity, he would not be ruthless in his dedication. If there was a kinder, gentler way to protect the Empire's interests, he would take that way, even if it was a gigantic pain in the ass. He was harder for me to roleplay than I expected!

PROLOGUE/ACT ONE NATTERING:


ACT TWO NATTERING:


ACT THREE NATTERING:


IMPERIAL AGENT COMPANIONS:



Christ, that was a lot longer than I intended. <cough>

Next up: Almost certainly my manquisitor, although I am finally on the Kalah train again as well.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Evildrider on April 25, 2012, 02:41:53 AM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 25, 2012, 03:34:38 AM
Kaliyo:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Evildrider on April 25, 2012, 03:37:29 AM
Kaliyo:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 26, 2012, 02:07:57 AM
Bwahahaha, Corso.


Operation: Fuck With Corso is turning out to be fun!  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 27, 2012, 02:06:49 AM
End of Smuggler Chapter One:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on April 27, 2012, 05:45:38 AM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: DraconianOne on April 27, 2012, 06:40:11 AM
End of Smuggler Chapter One:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on April 27, 2012, 09:17:24 AM
That bit of his personality was probably modeled on Sledge Hammer.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on April 27, 2012, 09:20:55 AM
Now if only the rest were too.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on April 27, 2012, 01:07:28 PM

You should have seen it before they nerfed it.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on April 27, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
End of Smuggler Chapter One:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on April 27, 2012, 01:12:22 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 27, 2012, 03:00:05 PM

And I am supposed to find this man appealing somehow.


Once it happened I KNEW that was the thing you needed me to see so you could talk about it, because seriously wtf. Ingmar sounded slightly disappointed I didn't go with it for SCIENCE but my devotion to doing terrible things in the romance department to see what happens has its limits.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: proudft on April 27, 2012, 04:51:29 PM
Re: Smuggler booty calls:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 27, 2012, 05:15:03 PM
That was essentially my impression too, even by the end of the chapter. So unless she has some bomb to drop on me later, LET US GO WITH THAT.

Because seriously, iew.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 28, 2012, 02:45:25 AM
What the goddamn hell, Corso.


I have a conversation queued up with him now that I am pretty sure will end in a fade to black, and I think I need a day or two to mentally prepare myself for inflicting that on my character.

MEANWHILE...



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on April 28, 2012, 07:35:51 AM
I just realized a bunch of my characters are pining for someone they cannot actually romance. What is wrong with me?
Welcome to my world! :drillf:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on April 28, 2012, 10:59:43 AM
My male smuggler is basically a sucker for lost causes/charity cases, but utterly despicable and ruthless to ANYONE that fucks with his friends or business partners that do him square.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 28, 2012, 02:48:11 PM
I just realized a bunch of my characters are pining for someone they cannot actually romance. What is wrong with me?
Welcome to my world! :drillf:

Thing is, I am perfectly happy to play dudes in order to get ladies or whatever, I just have managed to pick the "wrong" gender for a slew of my classes. :P

But yeah, the gay patch could not possibly happen soon enough for me.



(And the gay patch should add Talos as a romance option. <cough>)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on April 29, 2012, 05:19:23 AM
Talos as a romance option

Seconded by my femquisitor. Andronikos can go right out the airlock.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 29, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
Talos has so much more personality, it's insane.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on April 29, 2012, 01:09:46 PM
He's also not a cold-blooded killer.  (Ignoring the MMO convention of genocide.)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: DraconianOne on April 29, 2012, 03:24:52 PM
MEANWHILE...


Hmmmm



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on April 30, 2012, 08:50:00 PM
ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh


ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on May 02, 2012, 09:28:35 AM
You are such a masochist.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Furiously on May 02, 2012, 12:35:03 PM
Which Corso face are you using?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 02, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
Hmm, I'll have to look up which number it is, but I'm currently using the white boy with short brown hair and freckles look. Seemed most farmboyish. Default Corso just does not look like how Corso sounds to me at all. :P

And I know, Lantyssa. I know! The things I do for science.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on May 02, 2012, 10:50:33 PM
Well everyone should fuck their everyone silly.

Corso can go fuck himself though. Silly or not doesn't really matter.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 09, 2012, 07:05:28 PM
Sith warrior is soooooo borrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing compared to the SI and the IA (and the JK and the smuggler and so far even the trooper and consular). I'm only on Tattooine but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. If I didn't have Ingmar for company (and delicious SI story breaks) I think I'd be having a hard time getting through it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on May 09, 2012, 11:06:35 PM
Agreed. I keep trying to go back, but all I want to do is


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 09, 2012, 11:15:05 PM
I like his voice actor but yeah, it's just all so dull.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on May 10, 2012, 08:35:13 AM
I made it through so I feel for you.

Having Quinn did not help matters.  I kept trying to kick him off my ship but the game wouldn't let me.  Thankfully I have Zombie Quinn now, so he's barely tolerable in that I like to pretend I killed him then kept his force-animated corpse around to amuse myself.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on May 10, 2012, 09:55:27 AM
I'm still on Corusant on my Smuggler, but


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 10, 2012, 03:36:39 PM
I made it through so I feel for you.

Having Quinn did not help matters.  I kept trying to kick him off my ship but the game wouldn't let me.  Thankfully I have Zombie Quinn now, so he's barely tolerable in that I like to pretend I killed him then kept his force-animated corpse around to amuse myself.

I find Quinn far too dull to have strong feelings about one way or another. Yeah, he's a suck up, but Livia sort of expects that (she's an AWESOME SITH PURE BLOOD, of course losers are going to suck up to her!), and someone being all WOO EMPIRE doesn't really bother me (I love Talos as hard as I can, and he loves the Empire, after all). He's just sort of there. Soooo ... so far, I find that people having strong feelings for him (he seems pretty divisive on the SWTOR forums, much like Corso, in that people either really love him or really hate him) is kinda surprising.

I ... I think I started the romance? Possibly? I honestly can't tell. Which ... well, we'll see, I guess. For SCIENCE. He can't be worse than Corso. It is impossible. But I can't say I especially go for dudes who are that submissive, so I am pretty sure it's not going to do much for me. :P

Jaessa stuff, I guess:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on May 10, 2012, 03:38:01 PM
I'm still on Corusant on my Smuggler, but



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 11, 2012, 11:13:43 PM
Corso, possibly the FINAL CHAPTER, I'm not sure:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 11, 2012, 11:19:22 PM
OH FUCK I WAS WRONG



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 12, 2012, 08:06:47 PM
FINISHED


THE END


EDIT: Also, I finally remembered to look, I am using Corso #5. And Risha #6. And Bowdaar #3, for silly puffy wookiee vest action.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Minvaren on May 12, 2012, 09:43:35 PM
Not reading Sjofn's tale of Corso yet, as my FemSmuggler is only 1/3rd into Belsavius (and only 5k with Corso).   :oh_i_see:

The storylines have really impressed me.  In order of favoriteness thus far...

- Agent (lightside)
- Smuggler (lightside)
- Inquisitor (darkside)
- Trooper (?)
- Bounty Hunter (neutral)
- Jedi Knight (lightside)

Need to play:

- Agent (darkside)
- Trooper (darkside)
- Warrior (TBD)
- Consular (darkside)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 13, 2012, 02:13:57 AM
Agent (light side!) is probably my favorite thus far too. I also really, really like the SI one (also light side... ish) that I keep putting off finishing for no good reason. BH is the only one left I've done basically nothing of, no idea when I'll actually get around to it.  :why_so_serious:

I like being Republic better than Empire, even though I like the IA and SI stories better than anything on the Republic side, because the planet quest dark side/light side is usually less ... I don't know. Doofy? Empire side it's too often dark side = twirl mustache versus light side = twirl mustache less vigorously for my tastes, while Republic feels more often pragmatic (DS) versus idealist (LS).

Does that make sense?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on May 13, 2012, 02:39:12 AM
Makes sense to me.


I find I just start to roll my eyes whenever I have to deal with large amounts of Jedi Bullshit, Sith Stupidity or General Empire vindictiveness. The only redeeming part about the Empire for me, is it's at least HONEST with itself... but I am constantly wishing I could say, skip everything BUT my Agents class story. I have just run out of fucks to give with the Empire shared story.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 13, 2012, 02:48:15 AM
I mean, there is some "kick puppy y/n" for the Republic too, of course, but generally the LS choice is "hug puppy" instead of "give puppy a light tap with your toe."


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on May 13, 2012, 03:24:03 AM
That was my experience too [republic trooper/consular, imperial agent]. Republic LS/DS choices are more like paragon/renegade (with some 'doing this bad thing for The Greater Good' sprinkled in), while imperial LS/DS choices are about murdering people quickly vs. torturing them to death.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on May 13, 2012, 07:49:50 AM
Sith Warrior story had some of the better dialogue one-liners sprinkled throughout, but the plot was somewhat bland I thought.  I played light-side, which made Vette like me.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on May 13, 2012, 09:06:43 AM
Vette kinda likes my SW, but she balks whenever Threnody talks about herself like she's the shit. Which she obviously is, so I don't know what Vette's getting so upset about.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 13, 2012, 12:50:30 PM
Ha, I have the same relationship with Vette. She mostly likes Livia, but she doesn't seem to appreciate when Livia lets everyone know how awesome she is. But Livia is awesome, so suck it up, Vette.

Livia also has a "give them one chance to surrender/leave/rethink the error of their ways" policy. If they don't take the one chance, Livia kills them. So far she's only had one NPC realize they should probably take that chance and run with it. Why don't they learn? Whyyyyyy?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on May 13, 2012, 10:43:26 PM
They don't learn because you kill them.  :grin:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 13, 2012, 11:01:54 PM
Shhhhh, don't point out the flaw in her plan!


Also one last Corso thing I totally swear. It is one of his letters. It's ... here:


GET OFF MY SHIP


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on May 13, 2012, 11:04:58 PM
Shhhhh, don't point out the flaw in her plan!


Also one last Corso thing I totally swear. It is one of his letters. It's ... here:


GET OFF MY SHIP

Awww, that's really sweet.  That's from Corso's 6 year old nephew, right?   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 13, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
He's really SUCH a DORK. And I normally love dorks. But he is the BAD KIND of dork.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: kildorn on May 15, 2012, 03:59:12 PM
That poem was just lame until the end. He knows he's a parody of himself, right?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 15, 2012, 04:12:03 PM
I wish Kalah could go back in time and set him up with (mid-way Smuggler Act 1)



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 31, 2012, 04:32:52 PM
So I made a man smuggler and my GOODNESS is it way more fun than being a lady smuggler, and it is entirely because I don't have Corso interested in getting into my pants. I still hate him (he gives me +15s for flirting with women until I sleep with them, then I get a minus, I assume because I am treating them like a whooooooore because LADIES don't want to have SEX just for FUN. And my dude smuggler NEVER EVER pretends it's more than just for fun to get these ladies into bed!) but at least I won't have a romance with him.

I did realize at one point that when I am playing this dude smuggler, I am essentially playing Doc. And I love Doc. So that probably ups the Man Smuggler score too.  :heart:

AND I get to flirt with ~Risha~. Did I mention I love Risha? I love Risha.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Evildrider on May 31, 2012, 04:34:39 PM
I have a female Jugg I am working on and I wish I could burn all of Quinn's files from my game.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 31, 2012, 04:54:52 PM
Like I said earlier, I find Quinn just way too bland to hate. Same reason I don't hate Andronikos. He's just way too boring for me to care about one way or the other.

But we've only just finished Tatooine, so maybe he ramps up to something on Alderaan or something. But right now? Zzzzzz. I almost hope he becomes hateful (but not like ... Corso-level hateful) just for something interesting to exist for my poor sith warrior.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on May 31, 2012, 06:11:31 PM
I have a female Jugg I am working on and I wish I could burn all of Quinn's files from my game.
Zombie Quinn is tolerable.  I'd still like to burn him though.  Or put a saber through his head.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Minvaren on May 31, 2012, 06:55:42 PM
AND I get to flirt with ~Risha~. Did I mention I love Risha? I love Risha.

I just wrapped her story with a female smuggler - she's a card.  And I was wondering how her story would change if there was the male romance element involved too...


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on May 31, 2012, 07:06:45 PM
I totally wondered that myself. I will find out.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on May 31, 2012, 10:02:17 PM
I'm enjoying playing a Male Smuggler but Corso getting mad when I act like a smuggler when he worked for you know, a smuggler for years kinda chaps my ass.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: DraconianOne on June 01, 2012, 04:12:21 AM
Trooper Chapter 3, post Belsavis interlude, major light/dark decision.

Oh. My. Gods. I neither saw that coming nor knew how to handle it. I feel emotionally manipulated. Well played Bioware, well played.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on June 01, 2012, 08:30:07 AM
I'm enjoying playing a Male Smuggler but Corso getting mad when I act like a smuggler when he worked for you know, a smuggler for years kinda chaps my ass.

His old boss knew the power of gifts.

"What? How dare you speak rudely to the woman who just shot at you? I can't allow-- Oooh, shinies!"


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on June 01, 2012, 09:37:11 AM
I liked how:


I'm not up on my feminist dialectic but what would you call a misogynist who infantilizes women but doesn't treat them like shit?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 01, 2012, 09:43:40 AM
I'm not sure if there's an Official Term for that specific type of sexist fuckwit (the closest I can think of is the Nice Guy, but that's not precisely what Corso is), but in my heart they will be called "Corsos" from now on.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on June 01, 2012, 10:14:11 AM
Pedestal-pusher?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 01, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
I'm also not entirely convinced Corso wouldn't whip around and treat a woman like shit once they prove once and for all they're not a "lady." I mean, obviously he wouldn't because who the fuck would write that and actually put it in the game, but he definitely gives off a vibe of "nice pedestal you got there, be a shame if something were to happen to it" in some of his lines reacting to you shutting him down. Like the whole "you'll never find anyone who loves you like I do" scene was hugely creepy and vaguely threatening, and I can't decide if the writer realized it (it's the same woman who wrote DA2's Anders, who also takes rejection REALLY BADLY).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on June 01, 2012, 06:06:02 PM
Corso seems like he'd never treat a woman like shit.  He'd just snap and murder her while loudly lamenting how she made him do it by disappointing him.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 01, 2012, 06:15:23 PM
Baby, I had to stop you from degrading yourself further, don't you know you're a lady?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 01, 2012, 06:17:30 PM
Also, I meant to reply to this:

Trooper Chapter 3, post Belsavis interlude, major light/dark decision.

Oh. My. Gods. I neither saw that coming nor knew how to handle it. I feel emotionally manipulated. Well played Bioware, well played.


I was so glad something like that happened because holy shit was I starting to get tired of the trooper storyline by then. Belsavis in particular is hugely boring.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on June 03, 2012, 12:24:26 AM
Speaking of the Trooper storyline:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on June 03, 2012, 09:36:41 PM
You would be surprised at how many darkside options the other trooper companions happily sign off on.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Jherad on June 03, 2012, 11:09:50 PM
Yeah, often light side appears to be 'whichever option results in greatest number of survivors no matter their affiliation'. Some of the trooper companions rate personal/team loyalty a lot higher - particularly that cop from Psych.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on June 04, 2012, 03:59:02 AM
4X is pretty into following orders, too.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 04, 2012, 04:08:00 AM
Yeah 4X is basically "is this good for the republic yes/no" and awards his rep accordingly. The rest of them are varying degrees of that (Yuun is probably the most light-side idealist of them, then Dorne, then Aric). Vik's thing is more "whatever, Republic."


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on June 04, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
That's the thing in general with Trooper Light/Dark choices, MOST of them aren't simple "kick puppy off cliff for the giggles", there usually a debate of doing the 'Right' thing vs. doing the 'Smart' thing.




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on June 07, 2012, 03:19:35 PM
Tanno Vik goes to Belsavis:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 09, 2012, 04:25:54 PM
Another day, another finished character for Sjofn! This time it is Jovian, the sith inquisitor. I will spare you all the giant run down that I gave the IA, because that was way too damn wordy for something I don't think anyone actually reads. :why_so_serious:

Jovian's main motivation was "fuck the Empire," which resulted in him being mainly light side, although he certainly picked his fair share of dark side shit (but one of his tradeskills was diplomacy, so he's Light V anyway). I really, really enjoyed the story though, although if you prefer your class storyline to have anything at all to do with the game's overall plot, the sith inquisitor is not for you. The sith inquisitor is too busy dealing with Sith Bullshit to worry about the Republic.

I WILL do a companion run down:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on June 09, 2012, 10:17:29 PM
I read them!

Mostly agree with your rankings, but Khem is down there with Andronikos for me.  Maybe I should get his affection up to see that story, but you make me think I'll actually hate where it ends up.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on June 09, 2012, 10:18:08 PM
Khem is awesome and I  :heart: him but I'm not very far along.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on June 09, 2012, 10:27:26 PM
I read them too. And I liked that one.

I've got to stop playing this damn zombie game and get back into TOR.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 10, 2012, 12:09:14 AM
Maybe I should get his affection up to see that story, but you make me think I'll actually hate where it ends up.

You won't.


EDIT: Also maybe I'll do a chapter run down later then, since I have been REASSURED I am LOVED.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on June 10, 2012, 12:28:07 AM
I don't read them, so nyah!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 10, 2012, 01:14:35 AM
You hear my storyline rambling in real time, though.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 10, 2012, 05:46:20 AM
Warning: I am pretty sure I have the first two chunks safely squared away time-line-wise (I even have some of chapter one actually in the chapter two section to make ABSOLUTE CERTAIN), but chapters two and three kind of blur together, as they have the same issue the consular has, in that it feels less like OKAY CHAPTER THREE NOW and more like OKAY ON TO CHAPTER 2-B. I may be fucking some of it up, especially since, like Joshua before him, Jovian had a two month break between landing on Belsavis and actually doing Belsavis. Then I took yet another break before digging into Voss. So um. Sorry if I ruin anything.


Prologue:


Chapter One:


Chapter Two:


Chapter Three:


And in case you're wondering, this is how Khem's thing shook out, don't read unless you finished chapter 1 completely, although it's not possible to actually finish before you finish the class story completely:



God, that was even longer than the IA one, I think.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on June 10, 2012, 08:57:50 AM
Too many awesome bits to quote, so I'll sum it up:

;D


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 10, 2012, 01:04:28 PM
Aw, thanks.  :heart:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: DraconianOne on June 11, 2012, 04:46:59 AM
Must get back to playing my Inquisitor. What's killing me is the gameplay - I just don't think I like lightsabers much.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on June 11, 2012, 11:53:57 AM
Second the love for Talos, he had that chipper British explorer vibe going. I really disliked Ashara's recruitment, as nothing that happened really seemed to prevent her from going back to the order even though they set her up as as prideful hothead. As a darkside sorc, Khem was fun, cheering on all my be mean to everyone choices. Andronikus was meh and Xalek just comes so late there wasn't much time to do anything with him. There's only like two dailies that even give him affection and I was eager to move on to another character and they only now got around to getting +shield to work on the light armor "tank".



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 11, 2012, 05:22:48 PM
With Ashara, her recruitment definitely could've been done better, but I think deep down she just didn't want to go back. She's definitely trying to have her cake and eat it too.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 11, 2012, 08:59:39 PM
So hey! Remember how I leveled a jedi consular first? And I had a companion named Qyzen I didn't get along with very well, because he hates orphans? I finally decided to finish off his story, five months later.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: CmdrSlack on June 11, 2012, 10:41:35 PM
Your joy of roleplaying your characters gives me a Gene-Wilder-esque Wonka-grin. But not as creepy. Just happily bemused.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Surlyboi on June 11, 2012, 11:00:45 PM
Your joy of roleplaying your characters gives me a Gene-Wilder-esque Wonka-grin. But not as creepy. Just happily bemused.

This.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 12, 2012, 12:03:05 AM
Thanks! It makes it more fun to play, and then later more fun to write about. Why I feel compelled to write about it is anyone's guess, but I'm glad people like to read it!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: cironian on June 14, 2012, 05:41:34 AM
The SI storyline is just crammed with fun details. A favorite of mine that Sjofn didn't mention is that you get your own

And finishing the Khem storyline makes for a really good epilogue to the main plot.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on June 14, 2012, 03:20:07 PM
Finished Trooper off last night - probably overall the least impressive of the stories I've done. It is very straightforward and predictable, just a lot of hoo-rah let's go on a mission stuff for the most part.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on June 14, 2012, 03:34:39 PM
The best thing about the trooper story is Mr. Roboto and his various escapades.  :awesome_for_real:

What's definitely NOT awesome is having to lug Elara around everywhere (if you're a vanguard).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on June 14, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
I was a healing commando, so I mostly used 4X and Vik. And yeah 4X's conversations are indeed great.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Minvaren on June 16, 2012, 09:26:08 AM
Working on my trooper as well, 4X is a trip.  If I could get him saying "filthy Imps," he'd replace Elara in a heartbeat.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 16, 2012, 04:22:02 PM
His battlecries are delightful. <3


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on June 20, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
Finished my agent's story the other night. Female agent, mostly took light choices since my previous chars went dark. Tried to play her like Bond. Decent enough person for the profession, but I'll kill you if I have to, and overcoming problems with 1. sex, 2. talk, 3. violence

spoilers

I'm hoping to finally do a republic char before my sub runs out. Started a trooper, but it's femshep's voice. I'm still disappointed in you ME3, why you gotta be in my star wars?










Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on June 20, 2012, 05:35:05 PM
On the Agent:




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on June 21, 2012, 10:41:45 AM

One thing I forgot to mention about the agent story that I didn't like. Everyone comes up with plans but you. For someone chosen for their independence and quick thinking, you're kinda dull. Instead of Keeper saying "here's the plan" and you getting the lame "but that's crazy" line before you go off they should've switched that around. You come up with the plan, then the keeper raises the objections which you wave away. Would've made the agent so much more forceful and heroic.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on June 21, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
Didn't you listen to keeper, your not a hero, your sanitation worker.  :grin:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on June 24, 2012, 11:19:49 AM
Agent stuffs:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on June 26, 2012, 12:26:49 AM
Finally finished the agent story. If you haven't actually made your Agent yet, I really suggest making him a dude instead of a lady.

The Lady version of the story is by no means bad (and her voice is delicious) , but there are just so many parts where you can just SEE that they clearly wrote this with a male lead in mind and your missing out as a lady.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on July 06, 2012, 04:23:12 PM
Sjofn hit 50 on her MAN SMUGGLER, time for her to vomit forth pointless thoughts on the subject. I have to go pick up a friend soon, though, so you only get the traditional companion run down for now:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Minvaren on July 13, 2012, 07:03:41 PM
Holy crap, Doc storyline.   :awesome_for_real:

(farms gifts on his 50s to see what's up with Rusk and Scourge)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on July 20, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
Right, so. Smugglers. I'm mostly going to report on Captain Dorvin the Dude Smuggler, because most of the stuff that was different for Captain Kalah has already mostly been written about! As a result, there's not going to be as much Corso hate as he deserves. I basically played Dorvin as God intended: Greedy manwhore with a heart of gold. The main difference between him and Kalah (who also had a heart of gold, was greedy, and slept with many, many people) is Kalah will sometimes forgive people for stabbing her in the back. Dorvin shoots them, if he's allowed.

Prologue/Act 1:


Chapter Two:


EVENTUALLY I will do Chapter Three, but not tonight.  :heart:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on July 26, 2012, 12:03:18 PM
Finished the trooper story last night. I went female miralian (the green ones) vanguard tank and was all light side and proper military, i.e. paragon femshep. Overall it was ok. Not great but not bad either. I took armormech. Worked out well as the whole squad is heavy armor, main stat aim. Never had to buy gear and they all matched.

Here's some rambling thoughts:

Since my last two guys were light, next up is darkside smuggler. I will not only smuggle spice to children, I will smuggle it inside children, and the spice will be made of children.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on July 26, 2012, 01:03:05 PM
My feeling is the trooper is the weakest of the stories. I suspect you'll like the smuggler a lot more.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on July 26, 2012, 05:28:55 PM
Not really relevant, but Jaxo isn't SIS, she's military like you, works for Garza.



There aren't many Jedi because the Jedi fucked off to their old forgotten planet once the temple got sacked 50 years ago or whatever. It's why you even exist, the Republic decided it couldn't rely on the Jedi anymore. It's also why whenever you play a Jedi and go do a quest, everyone on Courscant is like "Haven't seen one of you guys in years!"



The Murder Pistol is because of Commandos and their Assault Canons.



Interrupt, AE stun, Interrupt, Storm, Interrupt, Cryo, Interrupt, Heroic Moment Cryo, Interrupt, Storm and one healer will be dead.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on July 26, 2012, 08:19:35 PM
Not really relevant, but Jaxo isn't SIS, she's military like you, works for Garza.



There aren't many Jedi because the Jedi fucked off to their old forgotten planet once the temple got sacked 50 years ago or whatever. It's why you even exist, the Republic decided it couldn't rely on the Jedi anymore. It's also why whenever you play a Jedi and go do a quest, everyone on Courscant is like "Haven't seen one of you guys in years!"



The Murder Pistol is because of Commandos and their Assault Canons.



Interrupt, AE stun, Interrupt, Storm, Interrupt, Cryo, Interrupt, Heroic Moment Cryo, Interrupt, Storm and one healer will be dead.

Haven't done any jedi yet, so was not aware. Never any shortage of jedi when you play Imperial though.

AE stun took a second for me to remember. One of those abilities you get late and I forget I have because it's relegated to the side hotbar. Totally never realized heroic moment refreshed cryo. Makes sense since it refreshes the sorc stun. Never bothered reading the description and used heroic maybe once my entire time leveling. Backing up from interrupt to storm range, just another thing I never bothered with as all my best stuff is short range. (Just making excuses for being bad at this.)




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on July 26, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
I didn't actually notice much in the way of Jedi as my IA. It was all Sith being a pain in the ass and normal Republic people, very few Jedi. And I think they were all planet-quest Jedi, not personal-story-quest.

Smuggler has a low Jedi count as well, although I think s/he runs into more than the trooper does.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on July 26, 2012, 08:49:03 PM
Where the double healer sucks, is when you're a commando. I eventually wore them down but it takes forever.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on July 26, 2012, 08:55:16 PM
Smuggler has a low Jedi count as well, although I think s/he runs into more than the trooper does.

Smuggler has the most awesomest Jedi, though!  :grin:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on July 26, 2012, 10:27:16 PM
Not really relevant, but Jaxo isn't SIS, she's military like you, works for Garza.



There aren't many Jedi because the Jedi fucked off to their old forgotten planet once the temple got sacked 50 years ago or whatever. It's why you even exist, the Republic decided it couldn't rely on the Jedi anymore. It's also why whenever you play a Jedi and go do a quest, everyone on Courscant is like "Haven't seen one of you guys in years!"



The Murder Pistol is because of Commandos and their Assault Canons.



Interrupt, AE stun, Interrupt, Storm, Interrupt, Cryo, Interrupt, Heroic Moment Cryo, Interrupt, Storm and one healer will be dead.

Haven't done any jedi yet, so was not aware. Never any shortage of jedi when you play Imperial though.

AE stun took a second for me to remember. One of those abilities you get late and I forget I have because it's relegated to the side hotbar. Totally never realized heroic moment refreshed cryo. Makes sense since it refreshes the sorc stun. Never bothered reading the description and used heroic maybe once my entire time leveling. Backing up from interrupt to storm range, just another thing I never bothered with as all my best stuff is short range. (Just making excuses for being bad at this.)





I want to say they knock you back quite a bit too, but I haven't done that fight in months now so maybe they changed that. If you took Elara with you, you have her CC thing too to use. It's roughly the only time that's actually useful  :why_so_serious:


In General, the Trooper storyline suffered the most from only having 1 companion with you at a time. The times when it worked, are those set pieces where you have your whole squad with you, giving their feedback and whatnot.

Other wise there are too many times when the Player is like "FORM UP HAVOC SQUAD!" and it's just Jorgan beside you going 'err... yes sir!'


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on July 26, 2012, 10:42:03 PM
Smuggler has a low Jedi count as well, although I think s/he runs into more than the trooper does.

Smuggler has the most awesomest Jedi, though!  :grin:

This is true! Although I have a fondness for the JK's master dude too, he actually does stuff once in a while. Unlike some other masters I could name, Syo.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on July 26, 2012, 11:25:31 PM
I added chapter two of the smuggler to my smuggler post. Eventually I'll add chapter three as well. I want them all in that one post BECAUSE I WANT THEM ALL IN THAT ONE POST OKAY.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on July 27, 2012, 08:22:33 AM
Then at least link to it! :-P

Both Sith classes have Jedi in their stories, but mostly they're bumbling, dogmatic, idiots.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lucida on July 27, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
Not Master Jedi Timmns... he was always a step or two ahead of my SW.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on July 27, 2012, 11:53:34 AM

I want to say they knock you back quite a bit too, but I haven't done that fight in months now so maybe they changed that. If you took Elara with you, you have her CC thing too to use. It's roughly the only time that's actually useful  :why_so_serious:

Oh, they still do. Very much so in fact. They knocked me high enough (like 3 or 4 body lengths in the air) I landed on top of one of the really tall machines.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on July 27, 2012, 01:03:14 PM
Then at least link to it! :-P

Both Sith classes have Jedi in their stories, but mostly they're bumbling, dogmatic, idiots.

It's right up the page! But here: http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=21576.msg1090810#msg1090810

And yeah, I've run into Jedi on both my Sith already. The one for the SI quest on Alderaan was the biggest cockbag ever (although you don't see just how big an asshole he is unless you do that quest the LS way).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Mattemeo on August 28, 2012, 09:52:29 PM
So, approximately 6 months after everyone else did it or stopped playing, my JK Sentinel finally achieved the title of Master.

Do we still need spoilers? Just in case...


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on August 29, 2012, 12:09:11 AM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Mattemeo on August 29, 2012, 04:00:37 AM
I would never have been able to tell. I'm guessing it's either horribly broken or I'm being punished for going with an ATI card...


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Minvaren on August 29, 2012, 04:51:49 PM
There was one ATI driver update (12.6 beta?) which horribly broke a chunk of the graphics in TOR, especially the holos.

Rolling one back or to the newest should take care of that.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on August 29, 2012, 10:57:29 PM
So if I had to choose between trooper or smuggler, I should go smuggler? Although I hate to waste a slot on repub side  :-P


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on August 30, 2012, 01:36:35 AM
I like the smuggler story much better than the trooper one; trooper is probably the most predictable/straightforward one in the game.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on August 30, 2012, 02:06:29 AM
MAN SMUGGLER

If you play a smuggler, BE A MAN.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Mattemeo on August 30, 2012, 09:52:23 AM
Trooper story is pretty cathartic in that you really aren't ever required to do more than 'go here, shoot those guys, rescue those guys, receive medal'. It's not particularly political, it requires absolutely no thought and the only thing it asks of you is to provide the appropriate ammount of ordnance to the appropriate faces. I think the only taxing part is deciding to light side or dark side at any given moment because it's usually a case of 'my personal moral judgement' or 'I do what the fuck I'm told FOR TEH REPUBLAAAHK'. You will find yourself Ooh-rahing. A lot. Also I'm told 4X is an awesome companion, but I played Vanguard so never used him to date. Yuun, on the other hand, is a zen ninja and is very cool. Your romance choices are CATMAN for girl chars and RULESNAZI for boy chars, but there's a few fuckbuddies thrown in during the storyline.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on August 30, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
MAN SMUGGLER

If you play a smuggler, BE A MAN.

well that much is obvious  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on August 30, 2012, 12:28:32 PM
To be fair, lady smuggler is really fun too, except for the Corso Issue.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: proudft on August 30, 2012, 02:42:06 PM
Isn't that like saying 'that Burger King meal was really good, except for the rat in my milkshake'?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on August 30, 2012, 04:20:04 PM
I've heard worse analogies.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on September 27, 2012, 01:37:05 PM
Sjofn just hit level 50 on a new class, time for some SPOILERS!

I'd go into more detail about the Imperial Agent class storyline, but frankly this trip through had long gaps between me playing it, so I don't quite remember everything with the clarity I would like. I will, however, say that this was probably my favorite storyline so far, and that I am glad I did the bulk of it after doing most of the Republic side stories, because there are about a gazillion throwaway references to them that I would have missed otherwise.

Even though I am of the opinion the Empire is stupid, I went into this planning on playing Joshua the Imperial Agent as a patriot, who would do whatever was best for the Empire, dark side or light side be damned. However, for my own sanity, he would not be ruthless in his dedication. If there was a kinder, gentler way to protect the Empire's interests, he would take that way, even if it was a gigantic pain in the ass. He was harder for me to roleplay than I expected!

PROLOGUE/ACT ONE NATTERING:


ACT TWO NATTERING:


ACT THREE NATTERING:


IMPERIAL AGENT COMPANIONS:



Christ, that was a lot longer than I intended. <cough>

Next up: Almost certainly my manquisitor, although I am finally on the Kalah train again as well.

Ok I finished this awhile ago but didn't read the thread. My Act 3 was a bit different, I assume because I was mostly dark side until Act 2


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 05, 2012, 03:27:11 AM
Rocked Quinn's world tonight, mostly as a reward for getting something at least vaguely resembling a backbone. Still find him incredibly boring, though. But still light years better than fuckin' Corso Riggs. :P

wtb Lt. Pierce romance pst


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on November 05, 2012, 03:44:57 AM
Isn't Lt. Boring (consular) enough Lt. for you? :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on November 05, 2012, 05:59:41 AM
wtb Lt. Pierce romance pst

Well you're in for a treat then.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 05, 2012, 01:59:42 PM
Lt. Boyfriend is a nice enough dude, but he had zero chemistry with my consular. I wanted to airlift him out and put him in some other storyline, the poor dope.

And Lt. Pierce is just a TEASE, the game is going to insist Quinn+Yulla is the One True Pairing. On the upside, it's been a while since I've told someone NO I WILL NOT MARRY YOU ARE YOU FUCKING MAD, so I look forward to that.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 05, 2012, 02:24:29 PM
Lt. Boyfriend is a nice enough dude, but he had zero chemistry with my consular. I wanted to airlift him out and put him in some other storyline, the poor dope.

And Lt. Pierce is just a TEASE, the game is going to insist Quinn+Yulla is the One True Pairing. On the upside, it's been a while since I've told someone NO I WILL NOT MARRY YOU ARE YOU FUCKING MAD, so I look forward to that.

I'm glad a hetero female agrees with me re: Quinn, although I must admit I'd rather have  a gay patch asap so I can sex up Vette.

eta: where are you now in the warrior storyline?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on November 05, 2012, 02:44:44 PM
A corpse is preferable to Quinn.  Heck, he's preferable as a corpse to himself.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 05, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
So anyway I recently finished the warrior storyline (incoming female sith trooper  :why_so_serious:) and I can't say it was all that great. I do enjoy killing both jedi and sith, mainly because they have to know what's coming to them, but they keep talking ish. The ending just felt anti climatic for some reason


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 05, 2012, 07:08:57 PM
I'm about to go to Voss (yay Voss, it's almost always hilariously bizarre class-quest-wise), so technically not TOO far from the end, but given Ingmar and I spent all of yesterday slogging through Belsavis, it's hard to say when he will be emotionally ready to play his manquisitor again.

His manquisitor has the stupidest hat I have ever seen, by the way, and he insists on displaying it.

I WILL say that act 3 for SW is considerably more interesting than the previous two acts, but I don't think it was worth the wait. :P


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 05, 2012, 07:09:30 PM
Empire Belsavis didn't feel like a slog at all to me for whatever reason.

And my hat is awesome.

Not me, but the right hat:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 05, 2012, 07:10:47 PM
I think it's because we only killed 5,000 Eshka instead of 100,000.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 05, 2012, 07:32:43 PM
I'm about to go to Voss (yay Voss, it's almost always hilariously bizarre class-quest-wise), so technically not TOO far from the end, but given Ingmar and I spent all of yesterday slogging through Belsavis, it's hard to say when he will be emotionally ready to play his manquisitor again.

His manquisitor has the stupidest hat I have ever seen, by the way, and he insists on displaying it.

I WILL say that act 3 for SW is considerably more interesting than the previous two acts, but I don't think it was worth the wait. :P

Since my experience with other classes has been a bit different than yours on occasion (consular and IA) I'm wondering if you get something different like
Also I may be horribly broken, but I find the prologue to be more interesting part of most of these class storylines (IA being the exception). I could do Korriban all day every day. I do hate Ord Mantrell for some reason though.


Quote
And my hat is awesome

Where's Triumph when you need him?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 05, 2012, 07:34:31 PM
The only way it could be improved would be if the little electrical posts had moving lights or lightning or something. They already glow pink, so there's that.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 05, 2012, 07:42:26 PM
Oh if it had lightning I'd definitely want one.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 05, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Also I may be horribly broken, but I find the prologue to be more interesting part of most of these class storylines (IA being the exception). I could do Korriban all day every day. I do hate Ord Mantrell for some reason though.

Depends on the class for me. Almost all of them, I prefer the Prologue+Act 1 over whatever their Act 2 is, though. The various Act 3's are pretty uneven. I am enjoying the SW act 3, the consular act 3 was pretty okay, but the trooper act 3 put me to sleep, for some examples. JK has the best End Boss, but I think I secretly got the most satisfaction from the boss of the end of the smuggler's Act 1.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Minvaren on November 05, 2012, 08:52:22 PM
Empire Belsavis didn't feel like a slog at all to me for whatever reason.

Not a slog at all, it's just that Rep-side felt like it was on rails by comparison.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 05, 2012, 11:28:52 PM
Empire Belsavis didn't feel like a slog at all to me for whatever reason.

Not a slog at all, it's just that Rep-side felt like it was on rails by comparison.

Which reminds me: does anyone have a handle on the chronological order of the Planet storylines? For example, I'd say E-Balmorra is earlier than R-Balmorra, and the reverse is true for Taris. R-Belsavis is before E-Belsavis. I have a feeling Voss is supposed to be simultaneous, but alternate paths. I don't have a handle on Correllia. Alderaan almost certainly is simultaneous but alternate, given the climax in each.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 05, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
Empire Corellia is before-but-overlapping-a-little-with Republic Corellia. Empire people leave it as them "winning," but ultimately the Republic wins that planet (which Republic players have a part in).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 06, 2012, 01:23:29 AM
Empire Corellia is before-but-overlapping-a-little-with Republic Corellia. Empire people leave it as them "winning," but ultimately the Republic wins that planet (which Republic players have a part in).

Cool. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever finished Correllia on either side. I pretty much just get to the end of the class storyline and I'm off to the next char.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 06, 2012, 05:22:55 AM
It's worth doing once, I think, but opinions probably vary. :P


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on November 06, 2012, 06:41:20 AM
Sjofn's correct on Corellia.  The Black Hole (?) lead-in has the PC chewing out the messenger because they are informed the Empire pretty much abandoned it after having a hard-fought victory there, and they weren't happy about this at all.  Something along the lines of "then why did I fucking bother helping you clowns out?"

I really didn't like Belsavis.  I'm not sure why.  Maybe the lack of trees or the flow of the story.

His manquisitor has the stupidest hat I have ever seen, by the way, and he insists on displaying it.
My condolences.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 06, 2012, 12:12:06 PM
Belsavis would be a fine planet, if it just stayed within the "this is a fucked up republic prison planet and the empire let everyone out!" sphere of story and ended like 15 sub zones earlier.


But no, it keeps on going and you have to kill the same fucking mobs 50,000 times for the same fucking reason over and over and over and I just want off this horrible fucking planet!




It felt particularly dumb on my Trooper, where his class story motivation for going to Belsavis is utterly mundane compared to the weird mysticism the last 2/3rds of the planet revolve around.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on November 06, 2012, 01:18:04 PM
Wait, I meant Balmora.  Belsavis would have been fine if the last half of the planet story was cut out.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 06, 2012, 01:48:53 PM
Belsavis (Republic side) is about 30% too big, that's really the only issue IMO. Most planets go through 4 'sections' but for whatever reason the last section on Belsavis is basically 2-3 sections. Messes with the pacing and there's more travel because of it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 06, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
Wait, I meant Balmora.  Belsavis would have been fine if the last half of the planet story was cut out.


Balmora can be pretty shitty too. But Belsavis takes the cake for me.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 06, 2012, 02:04:58 PM

IMO E-Bal was pretty epic (once I got over the whole armpit-of-the-galaxy bit). I don't remember finishing on Republic side but I doubt it could be a more fitting end than the consular bits.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on November 06, 2012, 02:10:33 PM
Yea, I did Belsavis as a trooper, and it was a neverending chain of "that just happened". In a way it's ok, since it underlined the Republic's inherent incompetence  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 06, 2012, 03:33:55 PM
Belsavis as a trooper is the worst, it is the most fillery chunk of class quest ever.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on November 06, 2012, 03:59:55 PM
Yeah, I was duoing my Vanguard with the lady's Sage and Belsavis was one of the only planets where we went "Well, the Consular bit sure was better than the Trooper's."

I don't even remember what the Trooper does on the planet. Some kind of  or something wasn't it?

At least it was a good place for my light side Vanguard to be all "What the fuck is wrong with you people?!" all the time.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 06, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Trooper Belsavis was, as I recall,


or something along those lines.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 06, 2012, 04:20:03 PM
Close!


INCREDIBLY BORING. Most of trooper act 3 was lame, though, as you're clearly treading water until you can go to Corellia and be awesome again.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 06, 2012, 04:33:10 PM
Why were any of them on Belsavis. Why does it even EXIST.  :why_so_serious:


"You were born here and commited no crimes, have fun spending life in prison!" You have a Entire fucking PLANET! Even, EVEN IF you MUST KEEP TOTAL SECRECY, YOU CAN MOVE THEM TO A PROPER TOWN SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE FUCKING PLANET ARRRRGH!!!


 :tantrum:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 06, 2012, 04:33:55 PM
That was only the one group, the rest of the criminals are obviously there for good reason.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 06, 2012, 05:02:15 PM
I do love that air of "haha, what is this shit the Republic's done, this is HILARIOUS" on the Empire side of Belsavis.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 06, 2012, 05:13:47 PM
I do love that air of "haha, what is this shit the Republic's done, this is HILARIOUS" on the Empire side of Belsavis.

IIRC There's a conversation on Empire side between npcs that had to do with xenophobia and species-based weapons that just cracks me up for some reason.

I love how I personally react differently to these things depending on my character. With my jedi I'm all :facepalm: :ye_gods:  :heartbreak: but with my sith   :grin: :why_so_serious: :Love_Letters:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 06, 2012, 05:15:19 PM
Seriously. It's so nice to be back in a story environment that actually makes me give a shit about it after GW2.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 06, 2012, 05:17:28 PM
IIRC There's a conversation on Empire side between npcs that had to do with xenophobia and species-based weapons that just cracks me up for some reason.

Yeah there's an empire scientist who is all "man what the fuck" to his buddy and his buddy is like "man seriously, I had this idea YEARS ago and I could never get the funding  :heartbreak:"

I love that exchange.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on November 06, 2012, 07:40:01 PM
I did a search yesterday about the Sith Emperor's Plan, and found the results very interesting.  Not sure what their sources are, but the retcon is pretty strong, with both Kotor games featured into the plot (the Exile in Kotor 2 finally has a name!! - didn't know that) and the class stories for JK, SW, and IA giving different clues about what's going on.

Baras is not a bad guy, apparently.

I love good one-liners, and it's too bad that I forget them pretty fast.  A recent one is:  "He just said 'You're all going to die buried under rocks' and your first reaction is 'You can't predict that, because only Mystics can make prophecies'?  Really?"  All-time best, of course, are "I don't need to spell my name, all I need to know is how to spell 'kill':  k y y y l" and the "blind, deaf, comatose lobotomy patient can feel my anger" one.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 06, 2012, 08:41:54 PM
I am interested to see what the SW learns about the Emperor's plan, given what I know about it from the JK one (the IA one is also sort of different, but it doesn't contradict the JK's version imo). Because right now I am thinking "oh ... oh dear."




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on November 07, 2012, 09:41:08 PM


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 07, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
IA/JK blah blah:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 11, 2012, 06:04:10 PM
My femssassin finally finished the plot.

Felt the second and third act really needed more connection to the the first. Also rent a crowds in this universe are decidedly sparse.

Bad guy's mob on corellia and my horde on Dromund Kaas both looked like low budget TV shows wanting to avoid paying union rates for more than a dozen dudes.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 14, 2012, 03:50:14 AM
For some reason I feel I should finish the 'plots' associated with companions.

Is there any not stupid way to raise affection or do I still have to buy a shit load of gifts?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on November 14, 2012, 09:39:39 AM
As soon as you get the companion, buy 50? (100? I forget the number) of the cheapest gifts from the starter city vendor, to raise his/her standing to 5000.  It's cheapest if you do this while they have 0 or low affection.

After than, just the on-ship talks should raise to about 7000, and then alternately bring the each companion in for just the talks when you grab or hand in quests.  They don't have to be there for the fighting, but if you have them there for the talking, they'll gain points.  The later you get the companion to join your team, the more points they get per convo option (15, 32, 40, 64, and 108? are the numbers, I think).

I have Kalyio and Temple maxed at 10,000, Vector at 9600, Doc at 8300, and Scorpio at 6500 and I'm 49.

As far as who fights with me, I'm DPS, and Doc is very good against bosses cause he heals me, whereas Temple or Vector are very good against regular and silver NPCs (the additional DPS they do means we kill things fast and it doesn't take ages to progress through the trash).  Kalyio and Scorpio as tanks are good for situations where a boss would keep interrupting me with CC, or if it's glass cannon).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 14, 2012, 01:52:43 PM
That is Lokin, not Doc. Doc is a very specific other dude. I totally would've loved Doc for hanging out with my IA.


Anyway, the rep bonus does increase the later you get a companion, but it varies more than you realize, Ajax. The first one is always 15, because everyone gets that companion at the same time, but after that it can vary pretty aggressively.

I prefer using gifts over gaming my conversations with companions, because I prefer ~roleplaying~ my conversations. I'm always swimming in gifts anyway, that's generally how I raise my treasure hunter/underworld trading/etc skill.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on November 15, 2012, 11:00:11 AM
I've been playing my lady smuggler again recently and wtf how can they let a codex unlock spoil the damn story like that?!



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on November 15, 2012, 12:16:58 PM
Bioware's commented a few times on erroneous/spoiler-filled codex entries, mainly to say that they're aware of them and they'll be looked at/fixed... some time. Basically it's so low of a priority (I suspect they have metrics that show that few to no people actually read the things) that I imagine they won't get looked at for another year or more.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on November 15, 2012, 02:21:15 PM
I'm always swimming in gifts anyway, that's generally how I raise my treasure hunter/underworld trading/etc skill.

Are those skills good money-makers on the AH?  I usually grab 3 gathering skills and sell mats, which is sufficient for levelling purposes (getting gear every 5 levels).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 15, 2012, 02:27:38 PM
Not sure, you generally want one if you're crafting and all my people craft. The gifts do sell reasonably well last I checked though.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 15, 2012, 02:42:05 PM
Is there a way to only get the gift types you want? Kinda getting swamped by courting and trophies. Maybe I need more alts.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 15, 2012, 02:44:59 PM
The mission gifts are totally random, yeah. You could always auction the ones you don't need, they typically sell for more than the mission costs to run last I noticed. Maybe that will go up with F2P and the restricted crew skills.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 15, 2012, 04:32:44 PM
If you take treasure hunting, the gift missions will, most of the time, bring you fragments that you can trade in at the curator (they're standing next to the gift vendor on the fleet) for whatever level 5 you want, in all three rarities (12 green thingies for a green, 8 blue thingies for a blue, and I don't remember, something like 6 purple thingies for the purple ones).

Gifts sell OK but I don't think that's a path to riches or anything. Also depends on the category, some categories are used way more often than others (or it seems like, anyway).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 17, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
Completed the HK51 stuff tonight. Was fun, a lot of intelligent reuse and some neat new sections, but suspect the treasure hunt will be a lot less fun when you can't easily find a team of half a dozen people to help search for the thingys.

Most of all, I just liked that it encourages people working together at each stage.

Femssassin & HK now look forward to liquidating large numbers of high and low threat undesirables together. Plus as he is ranged DPS, I never have to take Revel or Asoka off the ship ever again.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on November 17, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
My only problem with the HK questline is the extremely common bug that has him join you with no equipment whatsoever.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 17, 2012, 11:59:29 PM
My only problem with the HK questline is the extremely common bug that has him join you with no equipment whatsoever.

is that at level 50 or on your other chars? Also is that acct wide or just legacy?

My main problem is that the rare times I've actually gotten a FP/Heroic group lately I've run into some serious jerks so I'm really upset that I now have to group with potential a-holes if I want HK.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Amaron on November 18, 2012, 12:34:54 AM
I haven't even looked at HK yet.  Is it possible to make him available to low level alts without paying?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 18, 2012, 01:40:11 AM
1 million credit or 350 cartel coins.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 18, 2012, 08:02:16 AM
1 million credit or 350 cartel coins.

But remember it is per character and his gear is not effective till level 50, also good luck finding ranged DPS droid parts in the 1-49 game.

Might be you can craft gear yourself - not sure.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on November 18, 2012, 08:35:27 AM
My only problem with the HK questline is the extremely common bug that has him join you with no equipment whatsoever.

is that at level 50 or on your other chars?

On my level 50, but I've heard of it happening to lower level folks who unlock it with credits or coins.

1 million credit or 350 cartel coins.

But remember it is per character and his gear is not effective till level 50, also good luck finding ranged DPS droid parts in the 1-49 game.

Might be you can craft gear yourself - not sure.

His gear is all orange moddable stuff, so you can just rip the mods out of it until 50 and replace it with your own crafted mods. It's a bit of a pain, but any given Cybertech can keep him going quite well; he's a far sight better than any other DPS companion, even in green mods and armorings.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 18, 2012, 12:13:07 PM
I keep forgetting that practically everything is effectively orange now. This plus unify colours makes everything feel a little more polished - not least as it means I can ignore 90% of the horrific equipment art.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nebu on November 18, 2012, 01:01:56 PM
Can you rip set bonuses out of purple endgame gear yet to make orange sets that look better?  I hated the look of most of the rakata stuff. 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 18, 2012, 02:15:32 PM
Can you rip set bonuses out of purple endgame gear yet to make orange sets that look better?  I hated the look of most of the rakata stuff. 

Yes. All the endgame stuff I'm aware of still has nothing but vanilla stats and most it seems to be removable now.

The cash store also has a half decent range of outfits with slots to put the mods into.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 18, 2012, 05:03:50 PM
My HK51 ran into HK47 this evening. There is *additional dialog*.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Amaron on November 18, 2012, 06:05:20 PM
Can you rip set bonuses out of purple endgame gear yet to make orange sets that look better?  I hated the look of most of the rakata stuff. 

It depends on the set.  The original sets still have their set bonus tied to the armor.  Everything past that though you can rip out set bonuses and move them.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fabricated on November 18, 2012, 07:41:53 PM
I can't believe I bothered to install the game again to check out F2P. Like the whole game is behind the paywall. Also, am I supposed to get the supposedly 600 cartel coins I had coming from my previous sub time?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on November 18, 2012, 07:54:02 PM
I can't believe I bothered to install the game again to check out F2P. Like the whole game is behind the paywall. Also, am I supposed to get the supposedly 600 cartel coins I had coming from my previous sub time?

You only get those coins if you resub before something like December 20th. If you don't resub you can't get them, and if you don't resub by that time, they disappear altogether.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 20, 2012, 02:05:32 PM
My only problem with the HK questline is the extremely common bug that has him join you with no equipment whatsoever.

is that at level 50 or on your other chars?

On my level 50, but I've heard of it happening to lower level folks who unlock it with credits or coins.

1 million credit or 350 cartel coins.

But remember it is per character and his gear is not effective till level 50, also good luck finding ranged DPS droid parts in the 1-49 game.

Might be you can craft gear yourself - not sure.

His gear is all orange moddable stuff, so you can just rip the mods out of it until 50 and replace it with your own crafted mods. It's a bit of a pain, but any given Cybertech can keep him going quite well; he's a far sight better than any other DPS companion, even in green mods and armorings.

I finally finished the HK-51 stuff and he didn't have any gear, as opposed to the guy who grouped with me, who got full gear.


I must confess that I empathize with those who spent real money on cartel coins. I wanted that stupid throne but didn't get it, and now I don't have enough cartel coins to get HK-51 on any but one of my alts. Can I make it another 30 days w/o buying coins? I won't admit to it if I can't.  :oops:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 22, 2012, 03:09:00 AM
Whoopsiedoodle, my dude sith warrior is TOO light side.

Jaesa crap:



EDIT: Also Vette has some adorable chemistry going on with my dude, it is delightful and way better than borin' ol' Quinn. Also also, my dude's voice is delicious. <3


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 22, 2012, 03:36:10 AM
This is why my male warrior is DS and my female LS  :awesome_for_real:

Awhile back I wondered what would happen if I tried to woo two companions at once:


edit: I'm an idiot sorry  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 27, 2012, 04:54:16 AM
Finished the prologue on my warrior. Hmmm, whereas the other empire stories have enough winks and snarks to ground your character as a sane guy in the nuthouse, this just seems to be playing gratuitous sadism straight. Kinda gets dull.

Hoping act 1 is better.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on November 27, 2012, 06:07:34 AM
Empire stories are more interesting if you go light side.  Otherwise it's all puppy kicking from what I saw.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 27, 2012, 09:54:14 AM
Empire stories are more interesting if you go light side.  Otherwise it's all puppy kicking from what I saw.

Murder and Mayhem await!  But trolling Baras is also amusing.  :why_so_serious:

I'm tempted to go DS on my baby Jedi but that would make most of my fem chars DS.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 27, 2012, 01:03:38 PM
Man, no way, all the stuff with the  is totally entertaining at a level way beyond puppy kicking if you go DS on a SI.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on November 27, 2012, 03:40:07 PM
My agent is an awesome puppy kicker (though like I said before, even LS choices on the empire side tend to be ... not very high on the morality scale in a lot of cases). I keep telling myself I just kick puppies so Kaliyo doesn't get mad at me... honest!  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 27, 2012, 04:10:41 PM
At first I thought it may be a mistake to go IA first (since it's supposed to have the best story, and so far I have to agree) but doing that just informs all my decisions as a Dark Lord of the Sith. KNEEL BEFORE ZOD (AND/) OR DIE! :grin:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 27, 2012, 05:08:07 PM
Empire stories are more interesting if you go light side.  Otherwise it's all puppy kicking from what I saw.

Murder and Mayhem await!  But trolling Baras is also amusing.  :why_so_serious:

I'm tempted to go DS on my baby Jedi but that would make most of my fem chars DS.

Trolling Baras on my man warrior after being relatively down with everything Baras says on my woman warrior is fucking great. Although some dark side choices in the SW's storyline are immensely satisfying (I'm looking at you, certain dark side decisions on Voss), being light side is funnier, and therefore more interesting to me.

I do agree with Ingmar, now that I've seen both ways, the stuff in his spoiler is way more amusing if you're dark side. But he missed some awesome stuff (particularly on Alderaan) as a result of his lightning first, everything else later policies too, so ... clearly the SI storyline is just awesome no matter what, provided you are okay with completely ignoring anything going on in the Overall Game Storyline. Which I totally was!

I may eventually wind up doing a dark side consular to see if that makes that story more interesting (it's certainly ... REALLY DARK, just from knowing the choices you can make). The one I'm very slowly leveling with three other people is looking like he's probably going to be mostly light side, because I'm playing him as one of those obnoxious By The Book Jedi (complete with condescending jerkfaceness, which means the voice acting is not 100% blandly zen ... more like 80% blandly zen). We'll see if I actually want to go through the story a third time one day. :P


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 28, 2012, 01:41:21 PM
I do agree with Ingmar, now that I've seen both ways, the stuff in his spoiler is way more amusing if you're dark side. But he missed some awesome stuff (particularly on Alderaan) as a result of his lightning first, everything else later policies too, so ... clearly the SI storyline is just awesome no matter what, provided you are okay with completely ignoring anything going on in the Overall Game Storyline. Which I totally was!

Were you LS male or female on your SI? I was DS female so
Also I think I'm coming down with sjofnitis because I really hate Corso, and my character is a guy. There's just something about him that grates me. I guess it's all that time playing DS Sith that blinkered do-gooders just annoy the hell out of me, or that I want my char to be morally ambiguous and I have this tug of war between the RP side of me and the min/max side (in terms of affection).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 28, 2012, 01:53:08 PM
My manquisitor was a pink twi'lek dude. Everything is better if you're a pink twi'lek dude, as I am learning with the sith warrior.  :why_so_serious:

More specific about what I meant about Alderaan:



And that something about Corso? It's just Corso. He is a walking irritant. Because even if you put aside the horrible white knight thing, you still have the fact he is trying to be lawful good while hanging out with a FUCKING SMUGGLER, who is by definition not going to be LAWFUL ANYTHING. So he's all "boo hoo stop asking for payment" and "boo hoo, this is shady." No shit, you chucklefuck, you even worked for a fucking gangster, you know how this works.

<froth>


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on November 28, 2012, 02:01:16 PM
Speaking of Manquisitor, I never got the


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 28, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Jovian the Manquisitor was mostly light side, but ...



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on November 28, 2012, 02:18:09 PM
Jovian the Manquisitor was mostly light side, but ...


Huh, yeah, that's kind of obtuse. It's a shame, since my Manquisitor got absolutely none aside from


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on November 28, 2012, 02:34:38 PM
The only thing I got through all my characters was some dude who dumped me before it started for a hologram.  Of course my options were pretty much non-existent, so that was the best I could do.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 28, 2012, 03:04:13 PM
Jovian the Manquisitor was mostly light side, but ...


Meh I think I missed out. Hopefully I'll still get some bowing and scraping.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 28, 2012, 03:38:42 PM
You really aren't missing much, I don't think you even kiss on-screen or anything.

And Lantyssa, do not get me started on Tharan. I was pissed that the dude my consular DID have some vague chemistry with picked a HOLO over her, and I don't give a shit HOW "sentient" she is, goddammit. That whole thing was so fucking weird, I would really like to ask the person who wrote him, "Seriously, what the fuck?"


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on November 29, 2012, 08:09:23 AM
My consular's ship was pretty much a madhouse (except for Lt. Boring, maybe), so Tharan fit right in.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 29, 2012, 10:54:49 AM
Finished Act 2 with my female sorc. KInda lame end IMO. Hopefully Act 3 will redeem it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 29, 2012, 11:34:54 AM
Finished Act 2 with my female sorc. KInda lame end IMO. Hopefully Act 3 will redeem it.

Hmmmm. Tbh I felt everything after act 1 was phoned in.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 29, 2012, 04:06:04 PM
Finished Act 2 with my female sorc. KInda lame end IMO. Hopefully Act 3 will redeem it.

Hmmmm. Tbh I felt everything after act 1 was phoned in.

Well that's depressing. I was more or less enjoying Sith politics.

So right now I have a commando and a scoundrel. I was originally going to make both healers but I think I'm going to make one dps and I think commando is the one to go with (I'm assuming scoundrel dps is a lot like sniper, which I came to dislike). At low level (14?) commando seems to be the most fun class I've played so far.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on November 29, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
A Scoundrel is nothing like a Sniper DPS wise. Gunslinger is the Sniper Equivalent.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on November 29, 2012, 05:51:39 PM
A Scoundrel is nothing like a Sniper DPS wise. Gunslinger is the Sniper Equivalent.

ok. I was worried that I'd be tied down to one spot. So that "shoot 'em in the back" ability becomes more useful or something? Which do you think is the most fun class from a dps perspective? I suppose I can try myself since we get free respecs.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on November 29, 2012, 05:53:56 PM
Scoundrel/Operative is a short range/melee class, you stealth around and do positional stuff a lot. Very, very different from 'park in cover, pew pew' Gunslinger/Snipers.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on November 29, 2012, 07:52:43 PM
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT STORYLINES

NOT CLASSES

<shakes her fist>


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 30, 2012, 03:43:02 AM
Scoundrels WHISPER QUIETLY from close range. Whereas Gunslingers SHOUT ACROSS THE ROOM from cover. This the main difference when HAVING CONVERSATIONS on a smuggler.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on November 30, 2012, 03:43:49 AM
But do they shoot first?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on November 30, 2012, 05:13:27 AM
Depends on your DS score.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ginaz on December 05, 2012, 09:37:07 PM
Gah. :ye_gods:  Doing the HK-51 quest line only to discover   Worst.  Quest.  Design.  Ever. :mob:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on December 05, 2012, 10:05:15 PM
The sole reason that's there is because Bioware said months and months and months ago that it'd require  before they actually knew how the quest was going to go, so they had to pull something out of their ass for it.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 05, 2012, 11:12:42 PM
Do you really not have ONE alt that can walk around Courscant/Drommund Kas?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on December 06, 2012, 03:31:00 AM
Doesn't need level 15 either, I did it with an 11 who happened to be on coruscant. The zone was crawling with HK questers so mobs were not a threat.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ginaz on December 09, 2012, 04:41:27 PM
I was able to get HK-51 yesterday.  What a slog, esp.  :ye_gods:  The whole quest line wasn't hard and didn't take very long, it just wasn't fun.  At all.  Now that I have him, I noticed he came equipped with aim gear but theres also a container in my inventory with cunning gear for him.  Is there a difference in what he does depending on the gear he wears?

If anyone is interested in acquiring Hk-51, this is a pretty good guide.

http://www.swtor-spy.com/companions/hk-51/4670/


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on December 09, 2012, 05:08:54 PM
The gear that comes in the mail is for the benefit of people like me who got HK through the questline, but he came with no gear.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ginaz on December 09, 2012, 05:19:32 PM
The gear that comes in the mail is for the benefit of people like me who got HK through the questline, but he came with no gear.

When I got him, he came fully equipped with orange and blue level 50 gear, all of it with aim.  There was also a case put into my inventory at the same time that was same lvl 50 gear only with cunning instead of aim as a main stat.  I'm not sure if the aim gear was heavy armor and the cunning gear was med armor (probably).  Nothing came in the mail.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 09, 2012, 06:08:23 PM
HK can use either Aim or Cunning, as far as I know.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on December 09, 2012, 06:25:29 PM
The gear that comes in the mail is for the benefit of people like me who got HK through the questline, but he came with no gear.

Did you get the knife in the mail? I was told by others in the fleet that missing knives are a known issue.

I got everything but the knife.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ginaz on December 09, 2012, 07:12:09 PM
The gear that comes in the mail is for the benefit of people like me who got HK through the questline, but he came with no gear.

Did you get the knife in the mail? I was told by others in the fleet that missing knives are a known issue.

I got everything but the knife.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSasuTSDfs


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on December 09, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
The gear that comes in the mail is for the benefit of people like me who got HK through the questline, but he came with no gear.

Did you get the knife in the mail? I was told by others in the fleet that missing knives are a known issue.

I got everything but the knife.

I got the knife on mine.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on December 12, 2012, 01:15:49 PM
So I just started Act 2 on my agent and...

(that said, I need more companions. It's fun kicking the entire galaxy's puppy population one-by-one with Kaliyo, but I could use some variance. As for bug dude... no. I heard he's actually supposed to be the romantic interest for female IAs?!)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 12, 2012, 02:44:54 PM
He is indeed the love interest for lady IAs. He was the only companion my (dude) IA had that I trusted not to eventually snap and murder me in my sleep, though. They were BFFs and it was adorable.  :heart:

But yeah, the IA takes way too fucking long to get some variety in their companions. The SI's are too slow in coming too (the last one is after motherfuckin' VOSS.).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on December 12, 2012, 03:12:44 PM
Yeah, he's depressingly nice... which means he gets to guard the holocom in my ship while the Ranagol and Kaliyo Show tours the galaxy, saving puppies from not being kicked.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: rattran on December 13, 2012, 01:34:22 AM
I did the Trooper bit up to level 21~, I was surprised how much darker it was than the Imp side version. Lots harder to play straight up good or evil. Everyone in the Republic is corrupt.

Was kinda depressing.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 13, 2012, 02:26:32 AM
The Troopers moral choices are usually about either doing the right (but disadvantageous) thing vs. the smart (but awful) thing.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on December 13, 2012, 02:35:16 AM
Trooper ls/ds choices for 90% of the game:
"Congratulations, you have found Morally Objectionable Superweapon x on Planet y.
[LS] Such a tool of evil should not be allowed to exist! Destroy it in righteous fire!
[DS] Finally, something to even the odds! Time to shoot some Imps with this."


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on December 13, 2012, 01:49:17 PM

Not sure if this is worth a spoiler but
Ding dong


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on December 13, 2012, 02:22:28 PM

Not sure if this is worth a spoiler but
Ding dong

Nope. He is


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on December 13, 2012, 03:52:20 PM
Trooper ls/ds choices for 90% of the game:
"Congratulations, you have found Morally Objectionable Superweapon x on Planet y.
[LS] Such a tool of evil should not be allowed to exist! Destroy it in righteous fire!
[DS] Finally, something to even the odds! Time to shoot some Imps with this."


Demonstrating my general opinion that the republic and the trooper community in particular are the bad guys in this IP.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2012, 03:59:36 PM
Really?  The guys who wrestle with the morality of using weapons of mass destruction are the bad guys while the guys who gleefully use them without a second thought aren't?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on December 13, 2012, 04:00:40 PM
Really?  The guys who wrestle with the morality of using weapons of mass destruction are the bad guys while the guys who gleefully use them without a second thought aren't?

Well, the Republic military built all these damn superweapons in the first place - see JK storyline.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2012, 04:05:57 PM
Sure, but the difference is the Republic still seems to have a conscious despite building them.  The only reluctance the Empire seems to have is they don't want 'bad PR' or some such.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 13, 2012, 04:24:38 PM
Yeah sorry, as Empire, the question is rarely "use morally objectionable weapon yes/no," but much more often "use morally objectionable weapon for the Empire/use morally objectionable weapon for personal gain."

I do like that the Republic has its issues (BELSAVIS) but saying the Republic is the real bad guy is just trolling. :P


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on December 13, 2012, 04:45:01 PM
I'm not aware (from the storylines I've played) of the empire using superweapons against any peaceloving opposing factions? SI uses a superweapon against reactionary forces within the empire but that is clearly a carefully considered surgical strike, in aid of the greater good.

Furthermore the movie empire that destroyed Alderaan is pretty much the successor of the evil republic in the swtor era.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on December 13, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
You might want to check out:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 13, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
I'm not clear on which super weapons the Trooper line specifically gets? We disable a bunch of them, sure. Maybe if you are counting 4X?  :why_so_serious:

Trooper Spoilers:


I think that's the lot of it. I could be forgetting something, I haven't leveled a Trooper in like two months now!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 13, 2012, 05:26:45 PM
I'm not aware (from the storylines I've played) of the empire using superweapons against any peaceloving opposing factions? SI uses a superweapon against reactionary forces within the empire but that is clearly a carefully considered surgical strike, in aid of the greater good.

Furthermore the movie empire that destroyed Alderaan is pretty much the successor of the evil republic in the swtor era.


I was basically using "superweapons" as shorthand for "anything that may or may not be morally questionable to do or use." And the Empire quests, nine times out of ten, never even give you the option to not do or use those things, they just want to know if you wish to twirl your mustache while doing so. You are talking about an Empire that will merrily execute people at the drop of a hat (like seriously. A person will be given an impossible task, fail because it is impossible, then be executed for 'incompetence.'), is amazingly racist, uses slave labor, and generally goes along thinking "we must BREAK the planets we conquer, the more brutally the better."

God, this is "THE FORSAKEN ARE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD" all over again.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2012, 05:50:16 PM
That's not even addressing what the ultimate goal of the Emperor is.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 13, 2012, 05:51:03 PM
I don't blame the Empire for that, though, as I get the impression basically no one knows his plan.

Sith Warrior spoilers:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on December 13, 2012, 05:57:40 PM
I'm not aware (from the storylines I've played) of the empire using superweapons against any peaceloving opposing factions? SI uses a superweapon against reactionary forces within the empire but that is clearly a carefully considered surgical strike, in aid of the greater good.

Furthermore the movie empire that destroyed Alderaan is pretty much the successor of the evil republic in the swtor era.


I was basically using "superweapons" as shorthand for "anything that may or may not be morally questionable to do or use." And the Empire quests, nine times out of ten, never even give you the option to not do or use those things, they just want to know if you wish to twirl your mustache while doing so. You are talking about an Empire that will merrily execute people at the drop of a hat (like seriously. A person will be given an impossible task, fail because it is impossible, then be executed for 'incompetence.'), is amazingly racist, uses slave labor, and generally goes along thinking "we must BREAK the planets we conquer, the more brutally the better."

God, this is "THE FORSAKEN ARE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD" all over again.

The Foresaken? Like, the Wheel of Time Forsaken, or some other Foresaken?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on December 13, 2012, 06:03:00 PM
I'm not aware (from the storylines I've played) of the empire using superweapons against any peaceloving opposing factions? SI uses a superweapon against reactionary forces within the empire but that is clearly a carefully considered surgical strike, in aid of the greater good.

Furthermore the movie empire that destroyed Alderaan is pretty much the successor of the evil republic in the swtor era.


I was basically using "superweapons" as shorthand for "anything that may or may not be morally questionable to do or use." And the Empire quests, nine times out of ten, never even give you the option to not do or use those things, they just want to know if you wish to twirl your mustache while doing so. You are talking about an Empire that will merrily execute people at the drop of a hat (like seriously. A person will be given an impossible task, fail because it is impossible, then be executed for 'incompetence.'), is amazingly racist, uses slave labor, and generally goes along thinking "we must BREAK the planets we conquer, the more brutally the better."

God, this is "THE FORSAKEN ARE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD" all over again.

The Foresaken? Like, the Wheel of Time Forsaken, or some other Foresaken?

WoW Forsaken. 8 years of forum slapfights over that one.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2012, 06:06:09 PM
I don't blame the Empire for that, though, as I get the impression basically no one knows his plan.

Sith Warrior spoilers:


I blame the Empire in as much as it was created by the Emperor in what one can only assume to be the best environment for him to achieve his goal.  If his goal was to plant flowers and nurture puppies, I'd imagine the Empire would be a bit different.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on December 13, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
I'm not aware (from the storylines I've played) of the empire using superweapons against any peaceloving opposing factions? SI uses a superweapon against reactionary forces within the empire but that is clearly a carefully considered surgical strike, in aid of the greater good.

Furthermore the movie empire that destroyed Alderaan is pretty much the successor of the evil republic in the swtor era.


I was basically using "superweapons" as shorthand for "anything that may or may not be morally questionable to do or use." And the Empire quests, nine times out of ten, never even give you the option to not do or use those things, they just want to know if you wish to twirl your mustache while doing so. You are talking about an Empire that will merrily execute people at the drop of a hat (like seriously. A person will be given an impossible task, fail because it is impossible, then be executed for 'incompetence.'), is amazingly racist, uses slave labor, and generally goes along thinking "we must BREAK the planets we conquer, the more brutally the better."

God, this is "THE FORSAKEN ARE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD" all over again.

The Foresaken? Like, the Wheel of Time Forsaken, or some other Foresaken?

WoW Forsaken. 8 years of forum slapfights over that one.

Oh right, those Forsaken. Yeah, if you're called/call yourselves the "Forsaken", chances are pretty high you're at least 65% evil.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on December 13, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
Sith Warrior spoilers:
Also I wanted to punch him from the start.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on December 13, 2012, 11:52:57 PM
Re morally objectionable superweapons stuff: I distinctly remember my IA having to make a moral decision on the first planet (it wasn't even the big end-of-planet moral choice) about whether to use chemical weapons against a bunch of natives or just massacre them the old-fashioned way. That's some Lawful Good stuff, right there.  :why_so_serious:
I'm not clear on which super weapons the Trooper line specifically gets? We disable a bunch of them, sure. Maybe if you are counting 4X?  :why_so_serious:

Trooper Spoilers:
-snip-
Well yeah, it's certainly possible. I levelled my trooper about a year ago, and the only real moral choices I remember are about the superweapons (was choosing to boink jaxo a ls/ds choice? I don't think so...). I guess that also tells you something about the trooper storyline...  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on December 14, 2012, 03:11:42 AM
That's not even addressing what the ultimate goal of the Emperor is.

The emperor is just misunderstood.

His plan would usher in galactic peace and make room for a society based on something other than giant douchebags.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2012, 04:06:27 AM
Also I wanted to punch him from the start.

Man, you are way oversensitive. Darth Baras is a delight. <3 And I love his voice actor. A lot.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on December 14, 2012, 07:37:22 AM
Zash was a delight.  Baras was a jelly doughnut.

I hate jelly doughnuts.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: rattran on December 14, 2012, 12:35:36 PM
I preferred Zash to General Grumpypants, the old lady Trooper boss. She makes me want to defect.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on December 14, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
Zash was a delight.  Baras was a jelly doughnut.

I hate jelly doughnuts.

Baras is indeed pretty awesome, especially his voice actor.  I liked Zash too, right up until she


As for the Emperor, clearly someone has no idea what his plan actually is.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on December 14, 2012, 12:52:50 PM
Baras is indeed pretty awesome, especially his voice actor.  I liked Zash too, right up until she



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2012, 06:13:49 PM
Baras is indeed pretty awesome, especially his voice actor.  I liked Zash too, right up until she


<fistbump> Yes exactly. Exactly. Darth Baras has a Plan, he DOES give credit where it is due (the few times I didn't go HEY I DID THAT to someone he was talking to, Baras himself gave me credit on his own!), he is clearly comfortable with his beefalo self, and his voice actor is great. Zash is fun, but then she does what she does, and I do tend to hold a grudge over shit like that.

Although even after that, I liked her okay. I do like that instead of being a raging psychotic backstabbing bitch like 99% of the sith are, she's a cheerful, pleasant backstabbing bitch instead.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on December 14, 2012, 06:15:12 PM
No reason to be uncivilized!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 14, 2012, 06:22:43 PM
Exactly. <3


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on December 19, 2012, 10:31:25 AM
 Finished up a human/female/smuggler/gunslinger/darkside run. It was mostly good. Played greedy always asking for credits, picking lie and flirt options whenever possible.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Zetor on December 22, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
Finished up the agent story (along with the Corellia story) earlier today. Since I was playing a sneaky operative that tried to avoid fighting as much as possible, I didn't get too much kill xp at all, and missed out on the bonus 'kill x' mission objectives for the most part. I did run the bonus series for Taris/Belsavis [I think?]/Voss as well as a FP and a WZ every day, but by Voss all the missions were orange (some red even). I kinda brought this on myself with the entire sneaking bit, though, so I didn't really mind. Killing +3/+4 story mission elites was fairly entertaining and sometimes challenging, so it's all good! I finished Corellia and Act 3 at 46-47, so I got the legacy orbital strike before I could train the actual skill from the trainer.  :why_so_serious:

Story comments / act 3 spoilers below!


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on December 25, 2012, 08:15:28 PM
Finally finished the Inquisitor storyline. As my character is a megalomaniac it was actually quite nice.  :why_so_serious:


Crossing the streams: Inq and Warrior, a dash of knight (pre Act 3)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: rattran on December 25, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
I finished the Inquisitor last night as well, it felt oddly stilted as I'd played LightSide the whole time. Felt quite a bit more epic than the BH conclusion though.

And oddly, started a Sentinel run-through as well, so I'll see how they tie in.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on December 25, 2012, 11:50:55 PM
Inquisitor storyline:


NOOOOO I didn't see this as an option. When did this happen?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on December 28, 2012, 07:05:37 PM

Finished Act 2 of the knight storyline. I loved it but at a certain moment I felt like yelling "Get 'er, Ray!"  :why_so_serious: Worst plan is worst.  Also can someone remind me (JK + SW mashup)


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on December 28, 2012, 08:03:04 PM
Inquisitor storyline:


NOOOOO I didn't see this as an option. When did this happen?

When you


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on December 29, 2012, 11:14:22 PM
Inquisitor stuff:



Finished Act 2 of the knight storyline. I loved it but at a certain moment I felt like yelling "Get 'er, Ray!"  :why_so_serious: Worst plan is worst.  Also can someone remind me (JK + SW mashup)



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on December 30, 2012, 07:20:25 PM
Inquisitor stuff:


Quote


Finished Act 2 of the knight storyline. I loved it but at a certain moment I felt like yelling "Get 'er, Ray!"  :why_so_serious: Worst plan is worst.  Also can someone remind me (JK + SW mashup)



eta: Ok I just got through watching some vids on youtube that pretty much answered my questions



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ginaz on January 01, 2013, 09:57:56 PM
Just got to 50 today with my Sith Inq. and I have to say I didn't care for the ending.  The whole second half of the story was kind of meh.

On a side note, why must the end game gear for Sith Inquisitors look so God awful? :ye_gods:  The helmet looks even worse than the one for BHs.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on January 01, 2013, 11:14:21 PM
My Inquisitor is going to be wearing the same robes throughout the entire game that she picked up at around level 15.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 02, 2013, 01:19:41 PM
Just got to 50 today with my Sith Inq. and I have to say I didn't care for the ending.  The whole second half of the story was kind of meh.

On a side note, why must the end game gear for Sith Inquisitors look so God awful? :ye_gods:  The helmet looks even worse than the one for BHs.

Space Pope best Pope.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 02, 2013, 02:30:46 PM
I wish my manquisitor was a space pope, he's a water buffalo instead.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on January 04, 2013, 10:38:34 AM
Finally finished the Jedi Knight story on my Guardian. Loved pretty much all of it, but was pretty disappointed that
But hey, it was fun Star Wars-y stuff!



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on January 04, 2013, 03:15:47 PM
That the cartel armor?


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on January 04, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
Yeah, though bought on the GTN for credits instead.

Since it's, you know... very nearly the only Jedi Knight armor with no hood up.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Fordel on January 04, 2013, 10:04:09 PM
It looks way better on your Jedi then mine. Makes my lady guardians ass look super fat  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on January 04, 2013, 10:09:17 PM
Anyone finish Khem's story?



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 04, 2013, 10:53:08 PM
I did it the same way you did, but the answer to your question is yes. Just not if you take the approach you did.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: koro on January 04, 2013, 11:44:14 PM
I did it the same way you did, but the answer to your question is yes. Just not if you take the approach you did.


And to answer the inevitable follow-up question:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Tannhauser on January 05, 2013, 05:16:37 PM
I finished the BH storyline a couple of months ago.  Enjoyed the start and end of it, the middle was kinda dull.  Overall happy with it.  I loved Gault and Blizz; Mako was OK, Torian is boring and Skadge hasn't really been invested into.  Actually got stuck around 45th level and quit.  When I picked this back up I upgraded my gear, changed specs and it was better.  So funny that my favorite tree wasn't discovered for almost a year.  It just didn't look interesting compared to OMG ROKITS!

Looking forward to playing him with the xpac. 


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on January 06, 2013, 05:09:55 PM
Finished JK storyline early this morning. Worst plan is best?

Minor spoiler:

Major spoilers (including SW):


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 06, 2013, 08:01:47 PM

On the JK final fight:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 11, 2013, 04:22:17 AM
Finally finished the sith warrior story. Not going to do a full run down, more like good/bad/companion stuff:

Stuff I Liked:


Stuff I Did Not Like:


Stuff I'm Not Sure About:


The Companions:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Lantyssa on January 11, 2013, 08:40:11 AM
Finally finished the sith warrior story. Not going to do a full run down, more like good/bad/companion stuff:



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: eldaec on January 11, 2013, 09:57:25 AM
I'd almost suggest a third attempt to turn Jaesa.

Being DS up to jaesa seems like being a dick for the sake of it. Jaesa in her chilled "fuck everyone they are all lying idiots" DS mode at least gives you a companion who can call out bullshit and puppy kicking starts to come naturally.


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on January 11, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
I could have, had I done it with my lady one (who finished the game neutral, I think her net score is -300 <3), so I wouldn't have to punt puppies for no reason leading up to her. It's possible, but ... maybe some day, but not any time soon. I don't like the overall story enough (not like the smuggler, which I have done twice and am totally up for at least one more trip through).


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on January 17, 2013, 08:11:57 PM

Not sure if this is worth a spoiler but (trooper Act 2):



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Ingmar on January 17, 2013, 08:20:08 PM

Not sure if this is worth a spoiler but (trooper Act 2):




Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: PalmTrees on February 06, 2013, 12:49:52 PM
Finished up a jedi consular run. Female xabrak, sage healer, lightside all the way.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: ajax34i on February 06, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
My answer is about a month too late, Sjofn, but the hardon is for Baras and the varous one-liners and situations, rather than the actual plot line.  My playthrough was, pretty much, just for the convo cutscenes; I hit ESC (to reset and listen again or pick different dialogue) so much that my key almost broke.  "Some lungs you got there," "K-y-y-y-l," etc.



Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on February 06, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
I do sincerely love Baras, and you do have some awesome lines, I just wouldn't say their storyline is anything to write home about. And if it's one-liners people love, they should be in love with the sith inquisitor storyline.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Nevermore on February 06, 2013, 07:38:44 PM
<yawn>  :heart:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Sjofn on February 06, 2013, 07:49:51 PM
Exactly.  :heart:


Title: Re: Storylines (Annotate your spoilers!)
Post by: Raguel on February 17, 2013, 05:45:48 PM

Not sure if this is worth a spoiler but (trooper Act 2):